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I want to raise something that has bothered me about how we practice religion in this country, and I'm sure I'm not the only one experiencing it.

In many parts of Nigeria today, it has become normal for places of worship to use very loud speakers late into the night, sometimes past midnight, sometimes till morning, especially during vigils and special programs.

I understand that people have every right to practice their religion freely, but at what point does that freedom begin to infringe on the rights of others?

There are people living around these areas who need to sleep; workers, students, elderly people, even sick individuals, heck every other person not in your gathering. Yet they are forced to endure hours of loud noise they did not sign up for, with no real option to mute it.

What makes it more concerning is that the same religions emphasize love, consideration, and respect for others. Should worship come at the expense of your neighbour's peace and wellbeing?

I'm not trying to attack any religion or group. Wuna know wuna selves, and this is simply about respect for neighbours in a shared environment.

Other countries regulate noise levels at night regardless of who is making it; church, mosque, club, or event centre. Why our own go always dey different?

I would really like to hear people's thoughts:

- Have you experienced this personally?
- How do you deal with it?

Thank you.

There is only one true religion and we don't disturb neighbor's peace with noise {Isaiah 42:2} instead we pay them a courtesy visit as neighbors {Matthew 10:11-13} who are concerned about mankind's future {Matthew 10:7} due to circumstances some may say they are not interested we will move quietly to the next door or house but in most cases many who have turned us down during the first visit often welcome us at other times perhaps due to disturbing questions lingering in their hearts that's why we don't give up on our neighbors but as regards noise we follow the part of our founder whose voice is not heard in the streets! Matthew 12:19

MaxInDHouse:
There is only one true religion and we don't disturb neighbor's peace with noise {Isaiah 42:2} instead we pay them a courtesy visit as neighbors {Matthew 10:11-13} who are concerned about mankind's future {Matthew 10:7} due to circumstances some may say they are not interested we will move quietly to the next door or house but in most cases many who have turned us down during the first visit often welcome us at other times perhaps due to disturbing questions lingering in their hearts that's why we don't give up on our neighbors but as regards noise we follow the part of our founder whose voice is not heard in the streets! Matthew 12:19

Good on you! I wish more of your religious mates follow the same protocol.

DemonSlayer:
Good on you! I wish more of your religious mates follow the same protocol.

There is only one true religion as i have said and globally that is what we are doing! 🙂

MaxInDHouse:
There is only one true religion as i have said and globally that is what we are doing! 🙂

I appreciate your religion respecting the peace of others. Truly. But you see that one true religion talk, that's your opinion bro. Ask every other religion out there and chances are it'll tell you the same, it's the only one true religion. It's the nature of most religion to take that stance, and at its core, that is more political than spiritual.

In fact, I'm automatically suspicious of any religion that says it is THE ONLY ONE TRUE religion because there's no such thing. It only serves to alienate other people.

Religion serves a purpose, and if your specific one serves you well as a person, what's the point of invalidating the next guy's if his does the same for him? You like Coke, he's a Pepsi guy. At the end of the day, it's all soda. It quenches your thirst and gives you diabetes 😛

Well... except when, reasonably speaking, there are aspects of his religion that are harmful for society, which quite frankly every religion has its share of toxicity be default, then it becomes everyone's responsibility, even its own more reasonable adherents, to speak out against those aspects.

DemonSlayer:
I appreciate your religion respecting the peace of others. Truly. But you see that one true religion talk, that's your opinion bro.

There is only one God (Creator) so there is only one true religion the reason why no one has come to comment on this thread should tell you that they don't know what exactly their religion is doing.
Darkness is what the Bible God call religions that's false because worshipers can't explain what exactly their religion teaches or the practical sense/benefits of their religion they are in spiritual darkness.

Just wait and see if any religion can come up to prove they have something worthwhile doing! 🙂

MaxInDHouse:
There is only one God (Creator) so there is only one true religion the reason why no one has come to comment on this thread should tell you that they don't know what exactly their religion is doing.
Darkness is what the Bible God call religions that's false because worshipers can't explain what exactly their religion teaches or the practical sense/benefits of their religion they are in spiritual darkness.

Just wait and see if any religion can come up to prove they have something worthwhile doing! 🙂

Interesting.

What's that one true religion?

DemonSlayer:
Interesting.
What's that one true religion?

Ironically it's Christianity but Satan has established false religion and multiplied them in thousands so that if care is not taken you can't identify true Christianity where tens of thousands of sects are all claiming Christians with their contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines. Matthew 13:25

But the true God allowed Satan and his human agents to play around for centuries until He sent His holy spirit to separate faithful people throughout the world and gather them in a group {Matthew 13:30} so when they are all hinging to that group name (CHRISTIANS) which they have defamed with their atrocities the true God began calling His own worshipers by another group name: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

See what many people including atheists are saying about the true Christian group:

freethinker01:
Tho I don't like their disturbance, I'd have to say they're far better than all their Christian tithe whoring counterparts.

BafanaBafana:
Quite true. JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are actually one of the few denominations who are still following Christ. Most churches now are headed by motivational speakers who only use the name of Jesus to preach other things. The goal is to attract members to their church and the members will bring the money.
Shikena!

APOPTOSIS:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESS is operating at a different level.
They have been steadfast, resolute and committed.
I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches.
They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies.
Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and contacts.
And it seems they obey the Bible the most:
-They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers.
-They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles.
-They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve.
-Their members would make good politicians but they frown at politics
I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told.

Oye0404:
well said, once had a witness DAT comes around for years, truth is,dis guys are so caring and accommodating. lots if misconceptions about dem..

XXLDICK:
They remain the most peaceful Christian denomination.
They do not pay tithes. They are the only Christian denomination yet to be commercialized. They are my favourite.
Cons:
They do not recite the national anthem.
They do not participate in elections.
They do not accept blood transfusion.

boss1310:
The way they are hated makes me to think sometimes they might be the true Christians but I might be wrong.

Love800:
I would love to be a JEHOVAH'S WITNESS, because of their gentle life. Relaxed service and programs(not those stressful and loud types), and serenity of their church yard. Infact, its this serenity of their abode that blows my mind!

But the thing that worries me, is their misled teachings. How can you say that we are not going to die, but remain on earth and unite with our love ones and live happily together forever!

Deway52:
I am convinced that JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are the real religion, they do everything in line with the bible.
Na small time remain for me now, I don enter. If everybody in the world is a jw the world would be a better place.

DeepSight:
I am not sure the respect JWs have is on account of what you say. It is more on account of their general simplicity, general adherence to bible truth, and the fact that no one can accuse them of being commercialised or money or power focused like most other denominations are. Alot of people see a purity in them which is lacking in many other places. I should know, for as I told you, in my youth, I used to be one.

HardMirror:
unfortunately, JW are the best Christians if we will be honest.

Matthew 5:14-16🙂

DemonSlayer:
I appreciate your religion respecting the peace of others. Truly. But you see that one true religion talk, that's your opinion bro. Ask every other religion out there and chances are it'll tell you the same, it's the only one true religion. It's the nature of most religion to take that stance, and at its core, that is more political than spiritual.

In fact, I'm automatically suspicious of any religion that says it is THE ONLY ONE TRUE religion because there's no such thing. It only serves to alienate other people.

Religion serves a purpose, and if your specific one serves you well as a person, what's the point of invalidating the next guy's if his does the same for him? You like Coke, he's a Pepsi guy. At the end of the day, it's all soda. It quenches your thirst and gives you diabetes 😛

Well... except when, reasonably speaking, there are aspects of his religion that are harmful for society, which quite frankly every religion has its share of toxicity be default, then it becomes everyone's responsibility, even its own more reasonable adherents, to speak out against those aspects.

Hitting the nail on the head....

that is more political than spiritual

That fellow wants to market his religious denomination.

Regarding your thread it is a fusion of the fanaticism associated with the way Africans embrace the religion from other countries who brought it here.

Added to that, the level of illiteracy and implementation of laws guiding us around this part made such acts go on without check.

achorladey:
Hitting the nail on the head....



That fellow wants to market his religious denomination.

Regarding your thread it is a fusion of the fanaticism associated with the way Africans embrace the religion from other countries who brought it here.

Added to that, the level of illiteracy and implementation of laws guiding us around this part made such acts go on without check.

Makes sense. Thanks for dropping by.

MaxInDHouse:
Ironically it's Christianity but Satan has established false religion and multiplied them in thousands so that if care is not taken you can't identify true Christianity where tens of thousands of sects are all claiming Christians with their contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines. Matthew 13:25

But the true God allowed Satan and his human agents to play around for centuries until He sent His holy spirit to separate faithful people throughout the world and gather them in a group {Matthew 13:30} so when they are all hinging to that group name (CHRISTIANS) which they have defamed with their atrocities the true God began calling His own worshipers by another group name: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

See what many people including atheists are saying about the true Christian group:























Matthew 5:14-16🙂

Wow! I like how you've collected testimonials across time and accounts. You're a good salesman 😜 but seriously your evangelism game is strong. I use to stop at your magazine stands to interact with your members that year, it seems everything has disappeared. I can't remember the last time I've seen a JW!

I sha appreciate how respectful y'all are. Religious groups in Nigeria that are like that can be counted on one hand. From the ones that'll block road on Fridays to the ones that'll keep people up with vigil. They preach "love thy neighbour" with their lips but their hearts are full of ignorance, pride and hatred.

Is it true that you run your religion like a cult? There's massive internal pressure to conform, ostracizing nonconformists, plus to leave na war.

DemonSlayer:
Is it true that you run our religion like a cult? There's massive internal pressure to conform, ostracizing nonconformists, plus to leave na war.

I won't use the Bible to answer your questions because it's obvious you don't believe our book so let's reason intelligently.

Imagine a society harming themselves but a small group began learning how they can stop the bad habit whoever joins them already knew what to stop doing and that's how the group keeps getting members after teaching them how to avoid getting into trouble.
Please how would you treat someone who has learned so much, vowed to stop hurting himself and others but later chose to go back to his old lifestyle where they are hurting themselves and others?

I will say such a person should be quarantined so as not to infect others which means cutting off closeness with him or her since he or she already knew the implications but chose to endanger his life and others close to him!

What do you say?🙂

MaxInDHouse:
I won't use the Bible to answer your questions because it's obvious you don't believe our book so let's reason intelligently.

Imagine a society harming themselves but a small group began learning how they can stop the bad habit whoever joins them already knew what to stop doing and that's how the group keeps getting members after teaching them how to avoid getting into trouble.
Please how would you treat someone who has learned so much, vowed to stop hurting himself and others but later chose to go back to his old lifestyle where they are hurting themselves and others?

I will say such a person should be quarantined so as not to infect others which means cutting off closeness with him or her since he or she already knew the implications but chose to endanger his life and others close to him!

What do you say?🙂

How did you reach the conclusion that I don't believe your book? How is that obvious? You're right tho. I think these books (sometimes) have nice stories that teach important lessons but that's about it.

Your analogy is not entirely wrong, it is what we do to criminals in society by putting them in prisons. But you don't go imprisoning anyone that disagrees with your political party, do you? Difference of opinion is not a crime. Classifying everyone that changes their mind and disagrees with your religion as "hurting themselves and others" is outrageous!

Our ability to change our minds is essential to individual and human progress. Hasn't your religion also changed its mind about certain things as it evolved? Children who grow up within the system, get fed these beliefs—indoctrination is not uniquely JW—should be free to question their beliefs and when it doesn't add up, change or drop it altogether.

This is normal for a healthy mind. Dropping their faith doesn't automatically make them bad people. Or are you saying we're all evil people because we don't believe what you believe?

That said, I think ostracism is religion's immune system. It uses it to protect itself from falling apart from within. Without it, or the fear of it, your halls could go empty. 😛

DemonSlayer:
You don't go imprisoning anyone that disagrees with your political party, do you?

Of course you can't imprison anyone who disagrees with your political party but then EXCOMMUNICATING such a person will prevent a lot of confusion in the party.

Today the population of the world is about 10,000,000,000 inhabitants but Jehovah's Witnesses globally are not up to 9,000,000 which means if anyone is ostracized or excommunicated in that organization he or she still have over 9,000,000,000 people to replace JWs.
The ratio is 1000+ against 1 so what is the reason why they can't forget about JWs if truthfully they have meaningful ideas that could work elsewhere?

The truth is they have taken peace of mind as something they can opt for as in want whereas to JWs peace of mind is a need something we can't trade for anything.

You can't eat your cake and have it the best thing to do is choose between eating your cake and having it.

Meanwhile the guy coming here to malign God's organization can you ask him a simple question?

Since he was a JW and he has left the organization has he found peace in any other religious group?

Your thread is about how religions chokes peace in our society but here is a religion that stands out differently so if anyone feels he still disagree with the organization let them go and find peace elsewhere!🙂

MaxInDHouse:
Of course you can't imprison anyone who disagrees with your political party but then EXCOMMUNICATING such a person will prevent a lot of confusion in the party.

Today the population of the world is about 10,000,000,000 inhabitants but Jehovah's Witnesses globally are not up to 9,000,000 which means if anyone is ostracized or excommunicated in that organization he or she still have over 9,000,000,000 people to replace JWs.
The ratio is 1000+ against 1 so what is the reason why they can't forget about JWs if truthfully they have meaningful ideas that could work elsewhere?

The truth is they have taken peace of mind as something they can opt for as in want whereas to JWs peace of mind is a need something we can't trade for anything.

You can't eat your cake and have it the best thing to do is choose between eating your cake and having it.

Meanwhile the guy coming here to malign God's organization can you ask him a simple question?

Since he was a JW and he has left the organization has he found peace in any other religious group?

Your thread is about how religions chokes peace in our society but here is a religion that stands out differently so if anyone feels he still disagree with the organization let them go and find peace elsewhere!🙂

Makes sense 💯

DemonSlayer:
Makes sense 💯

The peace your thread is asking for can't come automatically it worth making sacrifices for others which means whatever religions wants to do in the neighborhood there should be consideration for others and such requires sacrifices on the part of the religionists involved we can't force ourselves on others but we can make sacrifices for the peace of our neighbors.
That's why i said majority of people claiming they know God don't understand that peace is not optional rather it's a need worth making sacrifices for.
I remember a day when i spent some time with my friend who happens to be an estate agent a man (Pastor) came angrily complaining bitterly regarding the apartment my friend rented out to him. His complaints is he doesn't want an apartment close to any church due to their noise but this same man used to make a lot of noise in his RCCG church where he is the assistant pastor!😟
Only the true religion understands this.

Many who were excommunicated in our organization have families in the organization and their families often cry as in shed tears when such ones are ostracized but we have to make such sacrifices if we want inner peace we can't just continue putting up with someone who knows the right thing but chooses to do the wrong thing in our gathering!😟

DemonSlayer:
How did you reach the conclusion that I don't believe your book? How is that obvious? You're right tho. I think these books (sometimes) have nice stories that teach important lessons but that's about it.

Your analogy is not entirely wrong, it is what we do to criminals in society by putting them in prisons. But you don't go imprisoning anyone that disagrees with your political party, do you? Difference of opinion is not a crime. Classifying everyone that changes their mind and disagrees with your religion as "hurting themselves and others" is outrageous!

Our ability to change our minds is essential to individual and human progress. Hasn't your religion also changed its mind about certain things as it evolved? Children who grow up within the system, get fed these beliefs—indoctrination is not uniquely JW—should be free to question their beliefs and when it doesn't add up, change or drop it altogether.

This is normal for a healthy mind. Dropping their faith doesn't automatically make them bad people. Or are you saying we're all evil people because we don't believe what you believe?

That said, I think ostracism is religion's immune system. It uses it to protect itself from falling apart from within. Without it, or the fear of it, your halls could go empty. 😛

What a response here. Chai😂😂😂😂

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This is normal for a healthy mind. Dropping their faith doesn't automatically make them bad people. Or are you saying we're all evil people because we don't believe what you believe?

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That said, I think ostracism is religion's immune system. It uses it to protect itself from falling apart from within. Without it, or the fear of it, your halls could go empty

DemonSlayer:
Makes sense 💯

Here is how they advance lies and manipulations. During the beginning of his religious organisation. This very same public disturbance and nuisance is what they did

After many years he now wants us to see his own religious denominations to as peaceful and loving people who don't use loudspeakers to disturb others while other Christians are false because they use loudspeakers. What he won't tell you is that, that was the very same thing they were doing in times past others complained about it too.

Excommunication of members is what they had several times categorised as paganism and even pointed fingers at Roman Catholic for using excommunication a pagan act as means to kill thousands. Today the same Jehovah's witnesses use excommunication as means to ostracised members and he wants us to admit it is a way of reducing confusion.

Since he was a JW and he has left the organization has he found peace in any other religious group?

I have repeatedly informed him that peace is not a property of his religious group. I don't see redeem members go to church every now and then in my community with weapons of war.

This same person followed my comments to the job section and spread falsehood against me that I don't have a job. He still expressed that falsehood yesterday. Yet I am the one that don't have peace

Your thread is about how religions chokes peace in our society but here is a religion that stands out differently so if anyone feels he still disagree with the organization let them go and find peace elsewhere!

Throughout the war in Ukraine and recently in the middle East, no single comment or effort at achieving peace comes from Watchtower. You see the Roman Catholic they love to accuse leading in that aspect. In fact he even said this Pope has vindicated them about their beliefs regarding war. Yet he will come out and say they are the only religious organisation seeking peace

I will say be very careful about how you validate his words because he will still come back and hold you to it when you don't dance to his tune

MaxInDHouse:
The peace your thread is asking for can't come automatically it worth making sacrifices for others which means whatever religions wants to do in the neighborhood there should be consideration for others and such requires sacrifices on the part of the religionists involved we can't force ourselves on others but we can make sacrifices for the peace of our neighbors.
That's why i said majority of people claiming they know God don't understand that peace is not optional rather it's a need worth making sacrifices for.
I remember a day when i spent some time with my friend who happens to be an estate agent a man (Pastor) came angrily complaining bitterly regarding the apartment my friend rented out to him. His complaints is he doesn't want an apartment close to any church due to their noise but this same man used to make a lot of noise in his RCCG church where he is the assistant pastor!😟
Only the true religion understands this.

Many who were excommunicated in our organization have families in the organization and their families often cry as in shed tears when such ones are ostracized but we have to make such sacrifices if we want inner peace we can't just continue putting up with someone who knows the right thing but chooses to do the wrong thing in our gathering!😟

Another round of marketing

Many who were excommunicated in our organization have families in the organization and their families often cry as in shed tears when such ones are ostracized but we have to make such sacrifices if we want inner peace we can't just continue putting up with someone who knows the right thing but chooses to do the wrong thing in our gathering!

Your contradictions didn't start today

Case closed OP is satisfied.

But if you know any religion that's ready to respond bring them here as for now only Jehovah's Witnesses have responded o!🙂

MaxInDHouse:
Case closed OP is satisfied.

But if you know any religion that's ready to respond bring them here as for now only Jehovah's Witnesses have responded o!🙂

He will even become OP spokesperson and moderator just for self glorification 😂🤣🤣

achorladey:
He will even become OP spokesperson and moderator just for self glorification 😂🤣🤣

Do you know the meaning of what you typed at all?🙂

I'm talking about God's organization the only true religion that can respond to the OP and convince him that what he is saying makes practical sense and the religions doing it are false.

How is that self glorification when the OP doesn't even know the person who is chatting with him?

Surely you have lost it completely because the OP knows the organization i'm talking about not me!😂

MaxInDHouse:
Do you know the meaning of what you typed at all?🙂

I'm talking about God's organization the only true religion that can respond to the OP and convince him that what he is saying makes practical sense and the religions doing it are false.

How is that self glorification when the OP doesn't even know the person who is chatting with him?

Surely you have lost it completely because the OP knows the organization i'm talking about not me!😂

Hypocrisy at its peak

How is that self glorification when the OP doesn't even know the person who is chatting with him?

The Op is living next to your house that's why you have to type that Op is satisfied. He didn't create the post for you to be his spokesperson over the topic regarding him being satisfied or not. To advance your self importance and glorify in someone else topic you said he is satisfied

Do you know the meaning of what you typed at all?🙂

Coming from someone that can redefine terms to suit lies and manipulations

I'm talking about God's organization the only true religion that can respond to the OP and convince him that what he is saying makes practical sense and the religions doing it are false.

Self glorification I talked about. Using loudspeaker is not the criteria used to determine a religion is false. That's why the Op clearly stated that does it mean because others don't follow your ideology or members of your ideology are evil? You responded with your usual lies and manipulations of which I informed him about

Surely you have lost it completely because the OP knows the organization i'm talking about not me!😂

And he knows that organisation had done this very same thing in times beating their chest then too as the only true christian religious group

achorladey:
The Op is living next to your house that's why you have to type that Op is satisfied.

See what DemonSlayer said about this issue and the response i gave him:

DemonSlayer:
Makes sense 💯

Oya bring another group nah at least you can see what the OP is saying!🙂