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MarketDispatch:
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The police, including security are there and they didn't even stop the attack ..says alot

They are indirectly sympathetic to those vicious SA folks, in fact, they enjoyed it. Very crime-infested country.

Nihao:
Please do add a little more effort to check how lazy SA workers are, if employer prefers them or not to other immigrants. They are the laziest among other African if you ask me.

The same South African workers who built the most resilient and modern infrastructure on the continent ? . The ones who drive the biggest middle class on the African continent? . The ones who have extracted the most gold on the African soil? . Our laziness equals productivity that can be measured whilst the rest equate suffering and slave working conditions as " hardwork" . Any day, anytime South Africa will always be thee or on the list of top performing countries on the African soil whilst yours ( filled with hardworkers will be flirting with the bottom of the list) .

Even the Tanzanin is defenceless in the presence of the security men, God will punish all corrupt African leaders for driving their citizens to this hostile civilization. I feel really pained and emotional to say all these, bloodshed will never depart from the families of all corrupt government workers in Nigeria and the whole of the continent

Black South Africans always

Do they think their nationals aren't in other African countries?

They wont have sense until all African countries start giving it back to them

South Africa should be banned from the world cup and be heavily sanctioned

cr7lomo:
South Africa should be banned from the world cup and be heavily sanctioned

LMAO

Who will do the banning?

MarketDispatch:
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The police, including security are there and they didn't even stop the attack ..says alot

It is a national thing nah.
Even their government do support their xenophobic actions.
Ask that their yeye Minister of Culture and Sports,he will tell you what I am telling you now.

Pacesetter123:
It is a national thing nah.
Even their government do support their xenophobic actions.
Ask that their yeye Minister of Culture and Sports,he will tell you what I am telling you now.

Then why the influx in such a country?

Even their girls were not left out in the brutality.
Nah so their entire population dey uncivilized and heartless?
The guy is busy shouting.... NOTHING I DO THEM.
Nobody is helping him bcuz all of them including state agents am seeing there are the same.

Meanwhile,was the Tanzania man crowned King of his tribe in South Africa?

Don't worry. Since the govt is not ready to deal with this nonsense , other AFRICAN COUNTRIES will start doing the same to your NATIONALS also. Stupid ppl. And we called ourselves "ONE AFRICANS"

GOLDSON888:
Don't worry. Since the govt is not ready to deal with this nonsense , other AFRICAN COUNTRIES will start doing the same to your NATIONALS also. Stupid ppl. And we called ourselves "ONE AFRICANS"

LMAO Here is a conversation Africa rarely entertains:

Ask yourselves this: why aren’t other African governments directly engaging the South African government and urging it to enforce its immigration laws properly, so that citizens do not feel compelled to take matters into their own hands?

Instead, they continue issuing the same statements: “the perpetrators must be arrested,” “end xenophobia,” and similar responses....while knowing very well that the South African government faces political risks, especially during election periods.

So why are the rest of Africa’s political leaders not addressing the South African government directly on this issue?

And why does the African Union appear so powerless in this situation? Or is there a deeper concern....that many governments fear what might happen if South Africa fully implements its immigration laws instead of allowing the burden to fall on ordinary, vulnerable people?

Political theatrics like Ghana summoning diplomats will not change anything. In the next four to six months, there will likely be another episode followed by the same reactions again. As long as the real conversation continues to be avoided, this situation will not stop. 🤞

SA has lost it

SmartPolician:
You people don't understand what's happening and haven't made efforts to find out. I've listened to South Africans argue that their companies are resorting to cheap labour from black foreigners as against their nationals.

He gave an example of how they go on strike to demand pay rise only for their companies to fire them and hire foreigners who are ready to settle for peanuts. Their anger, in my honest opinion, is valid!

that's like saying it is valid for Y:orubas to chase out non-Y:orubas from South West states because the non-Y:orubas have jobs in the SW that are meant to go to Y:oruba graduates...

you are not smart..

This incident happened in Cape Town, Western Province, not in Durban and the Tanzanian guy been mob for stealing phone from the university female student.
It's mob Justice not xenophobic attack.

Elipsis:
It’s easy to point fingers at South Africans, but are we really any different?

With the general elections just months away, the familiar pattern is about to begin. Soon, the usual suspects will rise, threatening anyone who refuses to support their candidate. They will insist that Lagos is their ancestral homeland and tell others to “go back to your states.”

If you complain that Lagos is dirty, they will tell you to go to your state.

If you say that Lagos is no longer safe, they will threaten to pursue you to your state.

Ironically, many of these people do not even belong to Lagos by origin.

We’ve seen it several times. Even traditional rulers have issued chilling threats, warning that those who don’t vote “correctly” could be cast into the Lagoon.

We’ve watched homes and businesses belonging to Igbos demolished, accompanied by intimidation and calls for them to leave. Sadly, they will have lots of comments on Twitter and even Nairaland supporting these barbaric acts against their own fellow countrymen.

This pattern of hostility is not unique to South Africa. It is alive here too.

Go to South Africa as a Nigerian and become a citizen then try to be the Mayor of Pretoria or CapeTown and see if they don't start killing Nigerians there...

stop saying rubbish...

you cannot compare been attacked for been a non-black south African to challenging another ethnic nation politically because ethnic nations have to defend their politics or they will be subjugated.

Au is a useless body.What are they doing about all this nonsense

codemaniacs:
Go to South Africa as a Nigerian and become a citizen then try to be the Mayor of Pretoria or CapeTown and see if they don't start killing Nigerians there...

stop saying rubbish...

you cannot compare been attacked for been a non-black south African to challenging another ethnic nation politically because ethnic nations have to defend their politics or they will be subjugated.

LMAO. The contradictions on this . But then again it's a Saturday...who knows what folks are having at this time

BOOZELEE:
Au is a useless body.What are they doing about all this nonsense

Can you suggest what you think they should do ?

codemaniacs:
that's like saying it is valid for Y:orubas to chase out non-Y:orubas from South West states because the non-Y:orubas have jobs in the SW that are meant to go to Y:oruba graduates...

you are not smart..

That's your business! I've made my point. As for the Yorubas asking everyone to leave the South West, what exactly are they waiting for? They should bring it on so we can end this shit-hole once and for all.

Lionessza6:
LMAO. The contradictions on this . But then again it's a Saturday...who knows what folks are having at this time

What are the contradictions?

He is talking about a person from "ethnic nation A " vying for political positions in "ethnic nation G" in order to take the privileges of "ethnic nation G" political positions while "ethnic nation A" political positions remains intact and exclusively for "ethnic nation A" people..

Travel advisory,avoid south Africa.

codemaniacs:
What are the contradictions?

He is talking about a person from "ethnic nation A " vying for political positions in "ethnic nation G" in order to take the privileges of "ethnic nation G" political positions while "ethnic nation A" political positions remains intact and exclusively for "ethnic nation A" people..

That’s exactly the contradiction I was pointing out earlier.

You’re describing Nigeria in terms of ethnic ownership of political space.....where “ethnic nation A” should not contest leadership in “ethnic nation G.” In other words, territorial political control based on identity.

But when South Africans express concerns about national space, borders, citizenship pressure, and political access, suddenly that same logic becomes unacceptable and is called xenophobia.

So which is it?

If identity-based political territory is normal at the tribal level inside Nigeria, why is it suddenly immoral at the national level inside South Africa?

You cannot defend “go back to your state” politics locally and then reject “this country belongs to its citizens” politics regionally.

That’s the contradiction.

Newgiven:
Travel advisory,avoid south Africa.

We SA support this a lot.spread the word. We are a very wicked country, we should be avoided.

Lionessza6:
That’s exactly the contradiction I was pointing out earlier.

You’re describing Nigeria in terms of ethnic ownership of political space.....where “ethnic nation A” should not contest leadership in “ethnic nation G.” In other words, territorial political control based on identity.

But when South Africans express concerns about national space, borders, citizenship pressure, and political access, suddenly that same logic becomes unacceptable and is called xenophobia.

So which is it?

If identity-based political territory is normal at the tribal level inside Nigeria, why is it suddenly immoral at the national level inside South Africa?

You cannot defend “go back to your state” politics locally and then reject “this country belongs to its citizens” politics regionally.

That’s the contradiction.

That's not a contradiction...

Black Africans in South Africa are not vying for political positions in South Africa, they are street traders, barbers e.t.c.

they are doing business and are not a threat to black South Africans national space, borders, citizenship pressure, and political access...

the different ethnic nations in Nigeria can be a threat to other ethnic nations that's why it is frowned upon and seen as invasion.

in 1966, the ethnic nation trying to create kings in other African countries k:illed the Premiers of the 2 other major ethnic nations in Nigeria in other to have the power to change the constitution and have access to the "political power" and "revenues" of the other 2 major ethnic nations which they did successfully but it only lasted for 6 months as the other 2 major ethnic nations took revenge and kill over 1 million of them.

so in Nigeria, it is seen as invasion because of what happened in 1966 and early 1800s ( which i did not explain ).

codemaniacs:
That's not a contradiction...

Black Africans in South Africa are not vying for political positions in South Africa, they are street traders, barbers e.t.c.

they are doing business and are not a threat to black South Africans national space, borders, citizenship pressure, and political access...

the different ethnic nations in Nigeria can be a threat to other ethnic nations that's why it is frowned upon and seen as invasion.

in 1966, the ethnic nation trying to create kings in other African countries k:illed the Premiers of the 2 other major ethnic nations in Nigeria in other to have the power to change the constitution and have access to the "political power" and "revenues" of the other 2 major ethnic nations which they did successfully but it only lasted for 6 months as the other 2 major ethnic nations took revenge and kill over 1 million of them.

so in Nigeria, it is seen as invasion because of what happened in 1966 and early 1800s ( which i did not explain ).

That explanation still doesn’t remove the contradiction.....it actually confirms it.

You’re saying ethnic political competition inside Nigeria is treated as an invasion because history has shown that when one group grows in number inside another group’s political space, conflicts over power, resources, and control follow. That is exactly the logic you’re using.

But then you turn around and say migration pressure inside South Africa cannot raise similar concerns about citizenship, resources, culture, or political space because migrants are “only traders and barbers.”

That’s simply not accurate.

There are already foreign nationals in South Africa who have openly spoken about forming ethnic homelands, like the Igbo king issue that made headlines. And yes, there are foreign-born citizens participating in political structures...as the Constitution allows. So the idea that migration has zero relationship to political space is not realistic.

South Africans also know from their own history what happens when settler populations grow without clear agreements around land, resources, and governance. Conflicts follow. That lesson did not start in 1966 Nigeria....it exists across African history, including South Africa’s own past.

So you can’t argue that population movement into another group’s space creates pressure inside Nigeria because of history, but insist that population movement into South Africa cannot create similar pressure because migrants are “just traders.”

If history matters in one case, it matters in the other too.

Lionessza6:
That explanation still doesn’t remove the contradiction.....it actually confirms it.

You’re saying ethnic political competition inside Nigeria is treated as an invasion because history has shown that when one group grows in number inside another group’s political space, conflicts over power, resources, and control follow. That is exactly the logic you’re using.

But then you turn around and say migration pressure inside South Africa cannot raise similar concerns about citizenship, resources, culture, or political space because migrants are “only traders and barbers.”

That’s simply not accurate.

There are already foreign nationals in South Africa who have openly spoken about forming ethnic homelands, like the Igbo king issue that made headlines. And yes, there are foreign-born citizens participating in political structures...as the Constitution allows. So the idea that migration has zero relationship to political space is not realistic.

South Africans also know from their own history what happens when settler populations grow without clear agreements around land, resources, and governance. Conflicts follow. That lesson did not start in 1966 Nigeria....it exists across African history, including South Africa’s own past.

So you can’t argue that population movement into another group’s space creates pressure inside Nigeria because of history, but insist that population movement into South Africa cannot create similar pressure because migrants are “just traders.”

If history matters in one case, it matters in the other too.

it is still not a contradiction.

it is a difference between Nigeria and South Africa.

In Nigeria, A foreigner can run for office but the political parties usually pick indigenes because it is the indigenes that are majority and they will not vote for a foreigner...

in South Africa, according to your explanation, the foreigners where voted into power by South Africans who are the majority...

so that makes it a South African problem.

in Nigeria, when one group grows in number inside another group’s territorial space and not political space that group is still not a majority in that space and the indigenes will always limit them not through violence like South Africans are doing but through not patronizing their businesses, increasing taxes that they pay, not renting spaces to them e.t.c..

that is why it is not a contradiction..

Black South Africans are the majority in South Africa and should use their voting to block out the foreigners turned citizens...

These South Africans are animals…these are the people Mandela suffered for!?…what a shame …I think we should ban all these South Africans from nairaland…you don’t want us in your country but you’re always on nairaland…does it even make sense

Hope South Africans are keeping record because other countries are keeping record, very soon the table will turn.