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tctrills:
Didn't you read were I stated that it was a joke from a comedian?
It was my oversimplified way of explaining culture

It was a nonsense explanation and you know it.

tctrills:
If abortion is caused by finances, how come none of the 10 poorest states in the US are among the top 10 in abortion rates
New York
New Jersey
Maryland
Florida
Illinois
California
The top 6 above

The idea that when you are poor, you should kill your baby is unacceptable

Lol....if you are using the data of state by state abortion, did you consider that the number of abortions is also factored by where it is legal? That is why i stated that abortion is also.factored by environment....

See how you twist data to support your ignorance?

And also, no one is stating that poor people must abort.

tctrills:
There is no moral difference between a woman who aborts her baby and a man who abandoned his kids and wife.

Sorry, actually, there is. The woman killed, she is a murderer

Are you aware that spontaneous abortions are the most common type of abortion? So nature is the best murderer. Not so good if you believe that a creator is behind nature......

I could defend abortion in the instance of choice but I wouldn't waste my time if you are arguing on religious basis

tctrills:
You are wrong about abortion. In the 60s the blacks were much poorer but they had less abortions. Abortions are a factor of a murderous society that is not ready to bear discomfort or the responsibility of child care.
These days in the US, women celebrate abortions on social media. How is that not culture

How legal was abortion in the 60s and did the same black people have access to it. Abortion was not legal and so the numbers for it would be down.

This is the same racist argument that glorifies a time when black people didn't have rights and were oppressed.

DeepSight:
I am tired of your black hatred.

I am a black, blacks blame others for their failures. That's a fact.
Our leaders steal then blame colonialism.
Liberia wasn't colonized . Basket case.
Ethiopia wasn't colonized. It's nsking rapid advances in development.

tctrills:
Segregation ended in 1964, is it not enough time to ask what and how has black America bettered itself since then?
Can we mention any action taken by the black community to improve their culture and society?
Secondly, how are the whites holding back black America today?
Since 1964, the blacks have been given more than 6 trillion dollars. They are by a mile the biggest benefactors of entitlement benefits per capital.
The have been given a black president, a black vice, blacks in the supreme court and they were granted affirmative action for decades.
What more would America do before they choose to be successful?

Please make a few suggestions of what the US can do to fix the black problem.

Pay reparations to every black . 😃

If my knowledge of the west was only rom diasporans ,Id be very ignorant.Because America is the wealthiest country . I remember being regaled with stories of how cities are chean,buses are punctual , you don't get to see any dust at all ,no muddy streets. Jobs are plenty , most stuff is automated, etc .

How is it that they want govt to cover abortion because they can't afford. That always nags me. Till Friday.

tctrills:
1 to 2 million couples are waiting to adopt
In some estimates, that’s:
30+ waiting families for every 1 infant placed for adoption.

No woman in the US kills her unborn because she is too broke to take care of it.

Have you ever been to an abortion centre in the US?

There are always anti abortionist outside begging the mother, promising to take care of the pregnancy and the baby if the mom decides to keep it.

So please next excuse

cause

Don’t argue about abortion with men. They can scream from here to Jericho. Just Pay them dust. Most of them can’t even find the clee toris with a flashlight and a map and they want to decide what a woman can do with her body.

They don’t deserve to have a say. If it were about protecting life, they wouldn’t be committing over 90 percent of violent crimes including murders. They would be the biggest advocates against violence. Arguing with them validates their stance. As if their opinion matters. It doesn’t.

GracieX3:
How legal was abortion in the 60s and did the same black people have access to it. Abortion was not legal and so the numbers for it would be down.

This is the same racist argument that glorifies a time when black people didn't have rights and were oppressed.

cococandy:
Don’t argue about abortion with men. They can scream from here to Jericho. Just Pay them dust. Most of them can’t even find the clee toris with a flashlight and a map and they want to decide what a woman can do with her body.

They don’t deserve to have a say. If it were about protecting life, they wouldn’t be committing over 90 percent of violent crimes including murders. They would be the biggest advocates against violence. Arguing with them validates their stance. As if their opinion matters. It doesn’t.

Ah cococandy. Some men too are pro-choice

IjeBos:
He said segregation ended in 1964. And all the racists just changed their minds, held hands and sang kumbaya.
Stop posting and go read something.
Try a book on black American history.

You know, the fella was talking about Jews picking themselves up as opposed to blacks. You pointed out how Jews are about the most protected people. I should add that they also have received massive reparations. But if you dare mention the word reparations in the context of black people, rest assured that same fella who is himself black will want to eat you alive. But he has no problems with the reparations for Jews.

Abortion is not a method of family planning.
There are at least 12 well known family planning methods plus abstinence.
I don't talk about such to my daughters to be honest,but they know if they got pregnant they wouldn't be forced into marriages or abortion. We would help raise the child.
It's up to them to be responsible. We won't be chasing diapers when we head to fifties.

GracieX3:
Ah cococandy. Some men too are pro-choice

or

GracieX3:
How legal was abortion in the 60s and did the same black people have access to it. Abortion was not legal and so the numbers for it would be down.

This is the same racist argument that glorifies a time when black people didn't have rights and were oppressed.

I have never been so overwhelmed by a person's shallowness and stupidity as I was by that fella in the last two days.

basilico:
Pay reparations to every black . 😃

It's impractical.

basilico:
I am a black, blacks blame others for their failures. That's a fact.
Our leaders steal then blame colonialism.
Liberia wasn't colonized . Basket case.
Ethiopia wasn't colonized. It's nsking rapid advances in development.

The factors which have determined what people are advanced today and what people are still struggling, I repeat, are the subject of advanced academics. Even Fela said so.

Sadly this subject is far over the heads of the motley gang of so called conservatives here.

DeepSight:
Bless you. So very rich and expansive. This -


- mirrors my thoughts exactly!
For the group who gave the world Jazz and much R & B and Soul music, it s pitiful for people to look at a sub set of entertainment projection and define the entirety of African American culture with it.

But with the way the so called conservatives on this thread have gone about things, I have no doubt that beyond culture they would even say that no African American has ever contributed anything to the development and progress of the United States. That is how far gone they are in their self hatred and their acceptance of a narrative that seeks to demean their race.

Conservatives be like proof that black people invented gun violence

basilico:
Abortion is not a method of family planning.
There are at least 12 well known family planning methods plus abstinence.
I don't talk about such to my daughters to be honest,but they know if they got pregnant they wouldn't be forced into marriages or abortion. We would help raise the child.
It's up to them to be responsible. We won't be chasing diapers when we head to fifties.

or

You have a daughter?

You?

GloriousGbola:
Conservatives be like proof that black people invented gun violence

As in!

Overall, what gets me is the absolute refusal to acknowledge basic causality when it comes to black people. So they will be unwilling to acknowledge the obvious causes of social dysfunction in any black communities.

But they then swing to the other extreme for white people. They not only ignore the obvious and evident facts, but they vigorously defend every atrocity.

It's just incomprehensible.

After independence Africa was swamped with economic hitmen sweet talking them into borrowing to fund huge white elephant projects they couldn't afford.
Add kickbacks to the leaders ,most countries end up repaying debt on projects that were totally unnecessary.
There's a freely available book .
Confessions of an economic hitman by John Perkins

THEDEEPSIGHT:
The factors which have determined what people are advanced today and what people are still struggling, I repeat, are the subject of advanced academics. Even Fela said so.

Sadly this subject is far over the heads of the motley gang of so called conservatives here.

basilico:
Abortion is not a method of family planning.
There are at least 12 well known family planning methods plus abstinence.
I don't talk about such to my daughters to be honest,but they know if they got pregnant they wouldn't be forced into marriages or abortion. We would help raise the child.
It's up to them to be responsible. We won't be chasing diapers when we head to fifties.

or

And if they elect to abort?

basilico:
After independence Africa was swamped with economic hitmen sweet talking them into borrowing to find huge white elephant projects theh couldn't afford.
Add kickbacks to the leaders ,most countries end up repaying debt on projects that were totally unnecessary.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https%3A%2F%2Farchive.org%2Fdetails%2Fthe-new-confessions-of-an-econo-john-perkins&ved=0CAEQmL8OahcKEwjo-ISf8JmUAxUAAAAAHQAAAAAQJA&opi=89978449

There's that, but it's a so much more bigger subject than that. It involves history, economics, warfare, social sciences, psychology, geography, climate, biology, zoology, botany, agriculture and so so much.

I can only smile sadly when I see clowns who simply think it's just down to one factor such as the inherent stupidity of Africans.

And worse any attempt to discuss the issues rationally is met with "take responsibility" or "those are excuses."

Sigh.

THEDEEPSIGHT:
And if they elect to abort?

It's still not a family planning methods.
Govt should never fund elective abortions. Never.
It's time individuals became responsible.

We also lacked the killer instinct to survive .Living within the tropics
It's a never ending topic with no simple explanation as to why blacks are behind.

THEDEEPSIGHT:
There's that, but it's a so much more bigger subject than that. It involves history, economics, warfare, social sciences, psychology, geography, climate, biology, zoology, botany, agriculture and so so much.

I can only smile sadly when I see clowns who simply think it's just down to one factor such as the inherent stupidity of Africans.

And worse any attempt to discuss the issues rationally is met with "take responsibility" or "those are excuses."

Sigh.

basilico:
Abortion is not a method of family planning.
There are at least 12 well known family planning methods plus abstinence.
I don't talk about such to my daughters to be honest,but they know if they got pregnant they wouldn't be forced into marriages or abortion. We would help raise the child.
It's up to them to be responsible. We won't be chasing diapers when we head to fifties.

or

Charlie Kirk said that if his 10 year old daughter got graped and pregnant, she should still give birth to the baby.


This is what religion does to you. Absolute morality when life is grey (not absolute or black and white)

You have a serious mental health issues if you still support this tyrant child sexual predator.
Real health issues.

bayelsaowei:
You have a daughter?

You?

I still doubt that he has daughters. He wouldn't be online on a forum subset everyday banging his head against the wall or echoing in the void.
I think he is one jobless 30'something year old guy working in a phone repair shop.

Just what I wanted. Every dominant state party to redraw maps to favour them.Democrats are almost done with their states.
They went to courts in Southern states who ordered congressional districts be carved out to secure democrat majority seats. Grok tells me at least 8-12 seats were simply handed over to democrats by courts .

GOP States Strike Back: Redrawing Maps to Crush Democrat Strongholds After SCOTUS Slaps Down Racial Gerrymandering

Southern Republican-led states are wasting no time seizing the momentum from the Supreme Court's April 29 ruling that smacked down Louisiana's race-based congressional map as unconstitutional.

Florida, Louisiana, Tennessee, Alabama, and South Carolina are already charging forward with new maps for 2026. In Florida, the legislature just greenlit Governor Ron DeSantis' bold plan that could flip the state's delegation from a solid 20-8 Republican edge to a crushing 24-4 blowout by targeting vulnerable Democrat seats.

This is what winning looks like. The Court made it clear: race can't be the driving force in drawing districts. No more Democrat-favored racial carve-outs that dilute fair representation. Republicans are finally playing hardball on fair maps that reflect actual communities and voter will, not identity politics.

Mississippi should jump in now and join the fight. The message is loud and clear: conservatives aren't backing down. More red seats, fewer blue excuses.

GracieX3:
Charlie Kirk said that if his 10 year old daughter got graped and pregnant, she should still give birth to the baby.


This is what religion does to you. Absolute morality when life is grey (not absolute or black and white)

I have the means to bring up grandchildren if they cannot.
The idea that you can't bring up kids is a very powerful incentive by the pro abortion crowd .
Many childless career women in their late thirties or early forties wish they got the babies instead of flushing them.
Many kids have been born from rape and succeeded in life. I've just seen Rev Jesse Jackson was one of them.What if the mother dies during the abortion..I won't condemn every unplanned kid to abortion.

basilico:
I have the means to bring up grandchildren if they cannot.

I would pay to check your laptop drives or your browser history. All of you maga cultists are highly suspects in child sexual predatory practices.
All of you.

Obrigardo:
I would pay to check your laptop drives or your browser history. All of you maga cultists are highly suspects in child sexual predatory practices.
All of you.

I'm one of the most outspoken on abortions and child transitions.
On transitions I have been very clear, those who promote it are child groomers hiding in plain sight.

basilico:
I have the means to bring up grandchildren if they cannot.
The idea that you can't bring up kids is a very powerful incentive by the pro abortion crowd .
Many childless career women in their late thirties or early forties wish they got the babies instead of flushing them.

This is the simple minded, narrow vision of the religious Conservative.

Please, there are many orphanages full to the brim with children. From babies to teenagers. Those looking to adopt have many choices.

However, typical Conservatives do not care about children but they want them to be born. They prefer to cut benefits that enable women raise children.

I am pro choice and not pro abortion. Abortion is the last option. It should be an option.

basilico:
Pay reparations to every black . 😃

Abi
If the more than 6 trillion black Américai has gotten in entitlement benefits changed nothing, that shows this is not a money problem