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tctrills:
This is being lousy. Whenever a white man accuses a black man of a crime, is it racism?
So, when you guys (Black guys) accuse Trump of various crimes, are you being racist?

You guys are making the definition of racism to be some kind of mystery.

Many leftists on this platform accused Kyle Rittenhouse of murder. Would you today call all your leftist friends on this platform racists?

You miss the point about the central park five. Many blacks/ latinos have been accused of crime without racism being brought up. It was the way Trump went about it. He took out full page adverts in four newspapers at a cost of 85k USD to demand the death penalty even before anything was proven (only two weeks after the incident) and worse than this, after they were exonerated he never withdrew his stance or apologized for it. After New York City settled a lawsuit with the five men for $41 million in 2014, Trump wrote an op-ed in the Daily News calling the settlement a "disgrace" and a "terrible mistake."

On top of all this, I hope you know those guys were juveniles between the ages of 14 and 16.

My grouse with liberals is pushing abortion as a constitutional right any time of the pregnancy and demanding federal funding for abortions.
A trans man of all others travelled fully armed to Judge Kavansugh home with the intention to kill him ........,then something came over him and he gave himself up to the police.
No one knows what will happen if they carry the pregnancy to term then give up the baby for adoption. Noone also knows what the baby will grow up to be .

I think people should just be careful and need counselling before aborting.

DeepSight:
It will be arbitrary for me to place a specific number of days or weeks to it, but I have said that once it has taken on the human form, I feel queasy about it.

To divert tangentially spiritually, several schools of thought also believe that the spirit incarnates into the body at a specific time during pregnancy. Some say this is around the middle of pregnancy but for me, the time would be around when it has form and begins to exhibit consciousness. I dont know about the timing for sure but it resonates with me. I just cant see what appears to be for all purposes something like a tiny cell as a human being. No, for me, at the early stages it is not a human being. It is only a potential.

DeepSight:
You miss the point about the central park five. Many blacks/ latinos have been accused of crime without racism being brought up. It was the way Trump went about it. He took out full page adverts in four newspapers at a cost of 85k USD to demand the death penalty even before anything was proven (only two weeks after the incident) and worse than this, after they were exonerated he never withdrew his stance or apologized for it. After New York City settled a lawsuit with the five men for $41 million in 2014, Trump wrote an op-ed in the Daily News calling the settlement a "disgrace" and a "terrible mistake."

On top of all this, I hope you know those guys were juveniles between the ages of 14 and 16.

Let's break it down: the guys were young, and Trump spent money to push a false narrative against them. The only difference here is that your Leftists did not spend money to push their campaign against Kyle Rittenhouse. Even after he was exonerated, they continued to push the false narrative. And Kyle was really young. So the only thing that made Trump's case different was the money he spent. Is that what makes Trump a racist while you leftist are not?
Note, many on the left are spending campaign dollars accusing Trump of all kinds of things on the non-existent Epstein files. Are they racists?

Also, what about all the whites that continued to insist that O.J. Simpson was guilty even after the jury found him innocent, are they also racist?

The 36% are either blood thirsty, ignorant or has financially benefited (or will benefit) from the short lived war.

Deepsight . Here is proof AI chatbots can make up stories.

March 8 this year. I was following PDC UK open Darts festival from flashscore.com and I asked Gemini what's the latest.

Gemini reply: Gerwin Price had just beaten Johnny Clayton 10-4.

My response: They haven't played yet it's Josh Rock and a guy from Poland.

Gemini then corrected itself and said the match has not yet begun.

In any case Gerwin Price beat Johnny Clayton 10-8 not the 10-4 the bot had claimed.

Trust AI at your own risk. On several other occasions Gemini has made up it's own results when it comes to PDC darts.

tctrills:
Let's break it down: the guys were young, and Trump spent money to push a false narrative against them. The only difference here is that your Leftists did not spend money to push their campaign against Kyle Rittenhouse. Even after he was exonerated, they continued to push the false narrative. And Kyle was really young. So the only thing that made Trump's case different was the money he spent. Is that what makes Trump a racist while you leftist are not?
Note, many on the left are spending campaign dollars accusing Trump of all kinds of things on the non-existent Epstein files. Are they racists?

I think the Kyle Rittenhouse case is markedly different because of the context of the riots about the police shooting of black a black man. Therefore his actions were seen as attempting to defend a racist police shooting - seven shots which left the victim paralyzed. I am only giving context. Very different scenario.

However, one thing you should know is that I know there are racists on the left too, but just far less and racism is not an ideology they way it is for the right, even if unsaid.

Epstein files are non existent?
You are truly on something.

Are you Catholic. I have a reason for asking which has nothing to do with anything debated in the last few days.

basilico:
Deepsight . Here is proof AI chatbots can make up stories.

March 8 this year. I was following PDC UK open Darts festival from flashscore.com and I asked Gemini what's the latest.

Gemini reply: Gerwin Price had just beaten Johnny Clayton 10-4.

My response: They haven't played yet it's Josh Rock and a guy from Poland.

Gemini then corrected itself and said the match has not yet begun.

In any case Gerwin Price beat Johnny Clayton 10-8 not the 10-4 the bot had claimed.

Trust AI at your own risk. On several other occasions Gemini has made up it's own results when it comes to PDC darts.

I am aware and I counter check. Its even better now, in the early stages the thing used to write some real gibberish.

DeepSight:
I think the Kyle Rittenhouse case is markedly different because of the context of the riots about the police shooting of black a black man. Therefore his actions were seen as attempting to defend a racist police shooting - seven shots which left the victim paralyzed. I am only giving context. Very different scenario.

However, one thing you should know is that I know there are racists on the left too, but just far less and racism is not an ideology they way it is for the right, even if unsaid.

Epstein files are non existent?
You are truly on something.

Are you Catholic. I have a reason for asking which has nothing to do with anything debated in the last few days.

To your last paragraph, give me your reason first because O don't see reason for the question.

To your first paragraph, you claim accusing a young man of murder stops being racism if the actions of the innocent man is perceived by his accusers to be racist.

Oga even you must accept that this racism thing is making no sense.

By your logic, if I wrongfully accuse you of being racist as was the case of Kyle, I am not racist but in Trump's case, he is racist.

Can I beg you for a mighty favour. Please explain this to me like I am 10 years old. This one over me, I confess.

Make it simple, show how leftist are not racist in accusing Kyle but Trump is a racist.

Note, Kyle did not even shoot a black man

Liberals are the most racist people on earth.
They use racist cards to bulldoze their way. Nominate Ketanji because she is black. Elect Kamala because she is a woman and black.
Jussie Smollett attacked by guys wearing MAGA hats. You are racist if you prefer immigrants from developed ( read white) nations.
Isn't creating a majority minority district like in Louisiana itself racist.
Discriminating against the white race is racism, unless you think it's acceptable because of historical injustices.

Tctrills should respond to the rest.

DeepSight:
I think the Kyle Rittenhouse case is markedly different because of the context of the riots about the police shooting of black a black man. Therefore his actions were seen as attempting to defend a racist police shooting - seven shots which left the victim paralyzed. I am only giving context. Very different scenario.

However, one thing you should know is that I know there are racists on the left too, but just far less and racism is not an ideology they way it is for the right, even if unsaid.

Epstein files are non existent?
You are truly on something.

Are you Catholic. I have a reason for asking which has nothing to do with anything debated in the last few days.

DeepSight:
I think the Kyle Rittenhouse case is markedly different because of the context of the riots about the police shooting of black a black man. Therefore his actions were seen as attempting to defend a racist police shooting - seven shots which left the victim paralyzed. I am only giving context. Very different scenario.

However, one thing you should know is that I know there are racists on the left too, but just far less and racism is not an ideology they way it is for the right, even if unsaid.

Epstein files are non existent?
You are truly on something.

Are you Catholic. I have a reason for asking which has nothing to do with anything debated in the last few days.

Please what do the Epstein files prove against Trump?

Answer the above because that's the easiest to fact check.

Anyone accusing Trump of molesting minors, should we call such a person a racist?

How about a white man who still believes OJ Simpson is guilty of killing is wife even after the jury found him innocent, is he a racist?

DeepSight:
I am aware and I counter check. Its even better now, in the early stages the thing used to write some real gibberish.

You selectively counter check. Like the $6 Trillion reparations.

Africa has received roughly $2.6 trillion in foreign aid since 1960.

basilico:
Liberals are the most racist people on earth.
They use racist cards to bulldoze their way. Nominate Ketanji because she is black. Elect Kamala because she is a woman and black.
Jussie Smollett attacked by guys wearing MAGA hats. You are racist if you prefer immigrants from developed ( read white) nations.
Isn't creating a majority minority district like in Louisiana itself racist.
Discriminating against the white race is racism, unless you think it's acceptable because of historical injustices.

Tctrills should respond to the rest.

The left trades on racism. It is their bread and butter, and they are very good at it. Even here on Nairaland, they are the first to cry racism. But we have learnt their Kreptonite, they hate facts and figures.

tctrills:
Please what do the Epstein files prove against Trump?

Answer the above because that's the easiest to fact check.

Anyone accusing Trump of molesting minors, should we call such a person a racist?

How about a white man who still believes OJ Simpson is guilty of killing is wife even after the jury found him innocent, is he a racist?

From what is in the public space already, every unbiased person knows Trump has engaged in those degenerate acts.
My problem with you is this knee jerk defense of all things white supremacist, Trumpian and Jewish supremacist.
Just be balanced. I dont think I have heard you criticize a single thing Trump has ever done.

Are you catholic?

tctrills:
To your last paragraph, give me your reason first because O don't see reason for the question.

If you are, I want to hear your view on Trumps attacks on the Pope.

To your first paragraph, you claim accusing a young man of murder stops being racism if the actions of the innocent man is perceived by his accusers to be racist.

Oga even you must accept that this racism thing is making no sense.

By your logic, if I wrongfully accuse you of being racist as was the case of Kyle, I am not racist but in Trump's case, he is racist.

Can I beg you for a mighty favour. Please explain this to me like I am 10 years old. This one over me, I confess.

Make it simple, show how leftist are not racist in accusing Kyle but Trump is a racist.

Note, Kyle did not even shoot a black man

I was only providing context to show you its quite different from the case of the kids. I did not say my view.

DeepSight:
From what is in the public space already, every unbiased person knows Trump has engaged in those degenerate acts.
My problem with you is this knee jerk defense of all things white supremacist, Trumpian and Jewish supremacist.
Just be balanced. I dont think I have heard you criticize a single thing Trump has ever done.

Are you catholic?

Oga, I think you are racist by your standard.

Let's use your favorite Gemini.
Here is the prompt: Have the Epstein files implicated Trump in sexual child abuse so far?

As of May 2026, the various releases of the "Epstein Files" (including documents unsealed by the courts in 2024 and those released by the Department of Justice under the Epstein Files Transparency Act in late 2025 and early 2026) have not provided direct, corroborated evidence or legal proof that Donald Trump engaged in sexual activity with minors.

While the files contain mentions of Trump, the information regarding sexual activity specifically with minors consists of allegations rather than proven facts. Here is the direct breakdown of what the files contain regarding these claims:

1. Unsubstantiated Allegations
The 2026 DOJ release included FBI memos (specifically Form 302s) memorializing interviews from 2019 with an unidentified woman.

The Claim: The woman alleged that in the early 1980s (when she was approximately 13 years old), Jeffrey Epstein flew her to a building in New York or New Jersey where Donald Trump allegedly attempted to sexually assault her.

The Status: The FBI characterized these claims as "unverified" and "unsubstantiated." The Justice Department noted that some files contained "sensationalist" claims, and Trump’s legal team has dismissed the allegations as "completely baseless."[b][/b]

From what you have read above, are you racist? It says the files have not provided direct, corroborated evidence or legal proof that Donald Trump engaged in sexual activity with minors.
Are you a racist?

tctrills:
Oga, I think you are racist by your standard.

Let's use your favorite Gemini.
Here is the prompt: Have the Epstein files implicated Trump in sexual child abuse so far?

As of May 2026, the various releases of the "Epstein Files" (including documents unsealed by the courts in 2024 and those released by the Department of Justice under the Epstein Files Transparency Act in late 2025 and early 2026) have not provided direct, corroborated evidence or legal proof that Donald Trump engaged in sexual activity with minors.

While the files contain mentions of Trump, the information regarding sexual activity specifically with minors consists of allegations rather than proven facts. Here is the direct breakdown of what the files contain regarding these claims:

1. Unsubstantiated Allegations
The 2026 DOJ release included FBI memos (specifically Form 302s) memorializing interviews from 2019 with an unidentified woman.

The Claim: The woman alleged that in the early 1980s (when she was approximately 13 years old), Jeffrey Epstein flew her to a building in New York or New Jersey where Donald Trump allegedly attempted to sexually assault her.

The Status: The FBI characterized these claims as "unverified" and "unsubstantiated." The Justice Department noted that some files contained "sensationalist" claims, and Trump’s legal team has dismissed the allegations as "completely baseless."[b][/b]

From what you have read above, are you racist? It says the files have not provided direct, corroborated evidence or legal proof that Donald Trump engaged in sexual activity with minors.
Are you a racist?

Wrong prompt. I said from what is in the public space. Not just what is in the Epstein files.

Almost half of those files are still hidden / redacted at least much of the key evidence. And that is illegal. And also what is in the public space makes it obvious why.

DeepSight:
If you are, I want to hear your view on Trumps attacks on the Pope.


I was only providing context to show you its quite different from the case of the kids. I did not say my view.

Your difference makes no difference. You really have not explained why one should be seen as racism and the other is not. Yes, no two cases are exactly the same, but we must judge with a standard. It seems you have 2 standards, one for Trump and one for your leftist brethren.

tctrills:
Your difference makes no difference. You really have not explained why one should be seen as racism and the other is not. Yes, no two cases are exactly the same, but we must judge with a standard. It seems you have 2 standards, one for Trump and one for your leftist brethren.

Are you Catholic

tctrills:
Let's break it down: the guys were young, and Trump spent money to push a false narrative against them. The only difference here is that your Leftists did not spend money to push their campaign against Kyle Rittenhouse. Even after he was exonerated, they continued to push the false narrative. And Kyle was really young. So the only thing that made Trump's case different was the money he spent. Is that what makes Trump a racist while you leftist are not?
Note, many on the left are spending campaign dollars accusing Trump of all kinds of things on the non-existent Epstein files. Are they racists?

Also, what about all the whites that continued to insist that O.J. Simpson was guilty even after the jury found him innocent, are they also racist?

Wow. Are you seeing how much you defend racism, especially from Trump?

Trump spent money on newspaper ads claiming the guilt on a group of innocent coloured men. You do not see that as racist.

And you are now comparing it to Kyle Rittenhouse. Kyle Rittenhouse killed two people and injured a third. Opinion was divided whether it was murder or self defence. Keep in mind that it could go both ways because he was defending himself but he carried a gun to an already charged protest. Both sides had their points, so no racism either way.


O.J. Simpson got away with murder. Some blacks cheered because the police department was racist. Had they not been racist, Simpson would have been indicted. The whites who wanted him jailed were in their right.


Two different scenarios to the Trump's action on the central park five is racist because he had no proof but believed that they were guilty. There was no real evidence tying them to the crime.

DeepSight:
1. Trump has been accused of racism long before politics. Long long before. Ever heard of the Central Park Five? Also he and his father were long accused of discriminating against blacks in housing / real estate projects.

2. Its lousy when people mention black celebrities who Trump has associated with. Celebrity pull is celebrity pull.

The thousands of blacks that he granted pardon under the first step acts are not celebrities

Or the biggest funding he gave HBCUs they are not celebrities

tctrills:
This is being lousy. Whenever a white man accuses a black man of a crime, is it racism?
So, when you guys (Black guys) accuse Trump of various crimes, are you being racist?

You guys are making the definition of racism to be some kind of mystery.

Many leftists on this platform accused Kyle Rittenhouse of murder. Would you today call all your leftist friends on this platform racists?

Actually accused Kyle Rittenhouse of being a racist white supremacist for shooting 3 white guys

The left arr demented. The create and recreate the meaning of racist Hitler Nazi etc

There is a Democrat senate contestant in Maine who has a Nazi tattoo that the party is supporting while insisting that Trump Romney McCain Bush were all Hitler

They literally saluted a King Charles while protesting about Trump being a king

raumdeuter:
Or the biggest funding he gave HBCUs they are not celebrities

The bill to fund HBCUs was raised before Trump entered office. He took the glory at the end.

Trump that hates DEI

raumdeuter:
The thousands of blacks that he granted pardon under the first step acts are not celebrities

Or the biggest funding he gave HBCUs they are not celebrities

Its jolly easy to cherry pick a couple of things you think he has done seemingly well by blacks ignoring his massive and long and well documented history of racism.

Zone outwards and take a birds eye view and see clearly, Uncle RR.

DeepSight:
From what is in the public space already, every unbiased person knows Trump has engaged in those degenerate acts.
My problem with you is this knee jerk defense of all things white supremacist, Trumpian and Jewish supremacist.
Just be balanced. I dont think I have heard you criticize a single thing Trump has ever done.

Are you catholic?

This post reeks of ignorance and very uneducated

How is Trump proven to have engaged in those acts?

raumdeuter:
Actually accused Kyle Rittenhouse of being a racist white supremacist for shooting 3 white guys

Not even you are stupid enough to fail to note that he was bringing a weapon to a race based riot inspired by a shooting of a black man.

DeepSight:
Its jolly easy to cherry pick a couple of things you think he has done seemingly well by blacks ignoring his massive and long and well documented history of racism.

Zone outwards and take a birds eye view and see clearly, Uncle RR.

You asked for specifics on what he did for non celebrities. Which I gave you a list.

What are the things that made him racist

raumdeuter:
This post reeks of ignorance and very uneducated

How is Trump proven to have engaged in those acts?

Will you shattap and kneel down at once? How dare you speak to a gentle, kind, gracious, humble, polite and unobtrusive personage such as myself in such a manner.

DeepSight:
Not even you are stupid enough to fail to note that he was bringing a weapon to a race based riot inspired by a shooting of a black man.

Bringing a weapon is not a crime. Until he was attacked by 3 white guys and he defended himself

raumdeuter:
You asked for specifics on what he did for non celebrities.

No I did not.
Why are you not on your knees? Raise up your hands and close your eyes.
In fact, kneel on uncooked rice.

raumdeuter:
Bringing a weapon is not a crime. Until he was attacked by 3 white guys and he defended himself

Anyway I was giving context, I have not given a view.

GracieX3:
Wow. Are you seeing how much you defend racism, especially from Trump?

Trump spent money on newspaper ads claiming the guilt on a group of innocent coloured men. You do not see that as racist.

And you are now comparing it to Kyle Rittenhouse. Kyle Rittenhouse killed two people and injured a third. Opinion was divided whether it was murder or self defence. Keep in mind that it could go both ways because he was defending himself but he carried a gun to an already charged protest. Both sides had their points, so no racism either way.


O.J. Simpson got away with murder. Some blacks cheered because the police department was racist. Had they not been racist, Simpson would have been indicted. The whites who wanted him jailed were in their right.


Two different scenarios to the Trump's action on the central park five is racist because he had no proof but believed that they were guilty. There was no real evidence tying them to the crime.

Well said. Trump judged those kids by their color. And what tctrill's misses is how reminiscent what he was doing was of the culture of lynching.
He was calling for a lynching of innocent colored kids, simple.

GracieX3:
Two different scenarios to the Trump's action on the central park five is racist because he had no proof but believed that they were guilty. There was no real evidence tying them to the crime.

Actually at the time Trump asked for the death penalty, the police claimed they got a confession from the guys admitting to the murder which later proved to be coerced

If today you hear that a group of say Hispanic guy killed a girl and they "confessed " to the crime then you ask for the death penalty. Are you racist