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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 6:06pm On May 02
bemeruca:
He said "as crude"

Its not an Olympic. How do you know though? We all thought Ellen DeGeneres was a bastion of morality with decent behaviour in public but behind closed doors she was abusive and cruel.


Winston Churchill: Famous for crude wit. He reportedly made bawdy jokes, insulted colleagues harshly in private, and had a legendary drinking habit. His exchanges with Roosevelt and Stalin during WWII were strategic but often blunt and earthy.
Lyndon B. Johnson (US President): Extremely vulgar. He conducted "the Johnson Treatment" (intimidation up close), used constant profanity, told crude sexual stories, and once waved his penis at aides while urinating, saying things like "This is your president!" Tapes and biographies (e.g., Robert Caro) confirm the raw language.
Richard Nixon: White House tapes reveal heavy swearing, anti-Semitic rants, and crude political scheming. He called people "c***suckers" and worse routinely.
Bill Clinton: Private accounts (including from aides and Lewinsky) describe crude sexual humor and language.
George W. Bush: Private moments included blunt, sometimes profane assessments (e.g., "Yo, Blair" to Tony Blair on a hot mic).
Barack Obama: Leaks and books show sharp, sometimes cutting private talk about opponents, with occasional swearing
All this is normal behind the camera and in private.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 6:06pm On May 02
bayelsaowei:
You think Obama would be like Trump and folks would be all over the place doing obeisance to him?

You think for example, if Obama was a sex offender and a serial grifter he would have secured support from sane humans?

Anyone who supports Trump should and can easily support Tinubu or any other thieving African leader.

If you think globally, Trump is respected by the rest of the world, you must be a dreamer or an alcoholic.

That thing that is all over the Epstein file.
Obama won't come out cursing in public, but he will ruin your life from behind while smiling. There is a reason Trump detest Comey, the late special council etc. Because they give him he'll even before he became the president.

Biden was accused of sexual abuse, the woman who accused him which was documented live on air by her mother on Larry King had to flee the country because the media and others where going after her.

That's the double standards. But every person they don't like they accuse them of sexual abuse. This goes back to the 80s 90s when justice clearance Thomas was appointed. They did it to Brett Kavanaugh.

So call him all that, the fact that you don't see Biden that way shows you have the woke mind virus too.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by tctrills:
DeepSight:
Tctrills, bemeruca, raumdeuter
You realise that the federal government sued Trump and they ended settling out of court and the Trump cooperation did not pay and fine or settlement fee.

By your earlier logic, you are racist for accusing Trump of something he wasn't found guilty of.

It seems leftist laws never apply to leftist.
Anyway, I believe Trump's side of the story.

After the government filed United States v. Trump Management Inc., Trump and his lawyer strongly denied all allegations.

1. ❌ “We did not discriminate”
Trump said his company followed the law and rented to qualified tenants
He rejected claims that Black applicants were treated differently

Any rejections were based on finances, not race”
Trump’s side argued:
Tenants were accepted or rejected based on income and ability to pay rent
Not race

Please apply the same standard you expect from Trump. You can't suggest he is guilty unless proven in court.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by TV01(m): 6:12pm On May 02
tctrills:
Take me through your thought process
...ah shocked! You'd have more joy with plankton grin. Indiscriminately firing neurons aplenty.


TV
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by tctrills: 6:18pm On May 02
TV01:
...ah shocked! You'd have more joy with plankton grin. Indiscriminately firing neurons aplenty.


TV
You are 100% correct. I can bet the leftist lady will deflect and never answer the question.

This is what leftist like GracieX3 do, they would accuse a conservative of some evil then the moment they commit the same supposed evil, they look for any irrelevant difference as the reason why they are always right.

In the case of this leftist lady.
It's ok to accuse Kyle of murder because he was he was defending himself but Trump is a racist when he accuse some kids of murder because it was not a self defense case. Hugeeee difference.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 6:33pm On May 02
bemeruca:
Obama won't come out cursing in public, but he will ruin your life from behind while smiling. There is a reason Trump detest Comey, the late special council etc. Because they give him he'll even before he became the president.

Biden was accused of sexual abuse, the woman who accused him which was documented live on air by her mother on Larry King had to flee the country because the media and others where going after her.

That's the double standards. But every person they don't like they accuse them of sexual abuse. This goes back to the 80s 90s when justice clearance Thomas was appointed. They did it to Brett Kavanaugh.

So call him all that, the fact that you don't see Biden that way shows you have the woke mind virus too.
1. Obama:

Trump detests anyone who tries to expose his vileness. That’s his MO. Obama as a human is more of a decent person than Trump would ever be. Grifting and sexual abuse of women is not on his list.

2. Biden

As for baba Biden. Yes accusations were made mainly by Tara Reade and other women. However, unlike Trump, Biden has never been dragged to any court as regards such allegations and until then fingers crossed. I heard the lady is back to the US. Let her pursue legal actions.

Trump has been found liable by a civil court for sexual abuse and not to forget he has been found guilty as a felon.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by tctrills: 6:35pm On May 02
DeepSight:
Tctrills, bemeruca, raumdeuter
Stop setting standards you are unable to keep. By you very own standard, you are a racist if you accuse one of being guilty with out it being proven.
The only question for you here is was Trump found guilty?
You again accuse him of abusing minors.
Please leave up to the standard you set.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 6:46pm On May 02
bayelsaowei:
1. Obama:

Trump detests anyone who tries to expose his vileness. That’s his MO. Obama as a human is more of a decent person than Trump would ever be. Grifting and sexual abuse of women is not on his list.

2. Biden

As for baba Biden. Yes accusations were made mainly by Tara Reade and other women. However, unlike Trump, Biden has never been dragged to any court as regards such allegations and until then fingers crossed. I heard the lady is back to the US. Let her pursue legal actions.

Trump has been found liable by a civil court for sexual abuse and not to forget he has been found guilty as a felon.
So you believe Trump was in Russia and prastatooths were pissing on him? Yes, trump should detest him. That's a lie no exposure of anything.

Biden has not been dragged to any court so its a lie.

“until court, fingers crossed” as if accusations against Biden are automatically weak just because they did not reach court.

A claim can be serious even without a lawsuit. Tara Reade alleged Biden sexually assaulted her in 1993

The Larry King detail is Reade’s mother called into the show in 1993.

You people applied “believe women” aggressively against Kavanaugh and Trump, then became more cautious when the allegation was against Biden.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by tctrills: 6:49pm On May 02
Mr DeepSight
Back to the abortion issue.
Am I right to summarise your take like this,
It's up to the individual to decide when abortion becomes killing a human being.
It is only when the mother decides that it is a human being in her womb that it becomes a human being. Until she decides, it is whatever she says it is.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 6:53pm On May 02
bemeruca:
Obama won't come out cursing in public, but he will ruin your life from behind while smiling. There is a reason Trump detest Comey, the late special council etc. Because they give him he'll even before he became the president.
Some people are like that. They hide their grievance but Trump doesnt he says it and keeps it moving

How many people has he attacked that they later became cordial? Rubio Cruz Romney Bill Maher, Mamdani etc. He even told Mamdani not to apologize or try to explain for whatever he called him

Trump was recently quoted that he was expecting DeSantis to attack him more during the primaries

The Democrats know this too and thats how Trump has always been but they chose to present him as evil in the media

Trump has been in public eye for over 50yrs and there is nothing new about him or his persona that we dont know already
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 6:58pm On May 02
raumdeuter:
Some people are like that. They hide their grievance but Trump doesnt he says it and keeps it moving

How many people has he attacked that they later became cordial? Rubio Cruz Romney Bill Maher, Mamdani etc. He even told Mamdani not to apologize or try to explain for whatever he called him

Trump was recently quoted that he was expecting DeSantis to attack him more during the primaries

The Democrats know this too and thats how Trump has always been but they chose to present him as evil in the media
Bayelsaowei does not understand this. JD Vance called him Nazi, Piers Morgan, Joe Scarborough, but when they want to talk and sit with him, he is friendly and nice.

That is why their side are the ones shooting people in the throat. If they are like Trump, they'd be nicer instead of killing and disowning their parents and love ones because of their opinions.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GracieX3(f): 6:59pm On May 02
tctrills:
So correct me if I am wrong, according to leftist logic, it is ok and not racism to accuse an innocent person of murder only in cases of self defense. But other cases outside self defense, you will be a racist to accuse one of murder. Am I wrong.

Please can you also tie OJ Simpson's case to this because many whites still say he is guilty. His case was not self defense, are they racists?
What rubbish are you saying? You are comparing two different cases.

1. Kyle Rittenhouse brought a gun to a charged protest. That alone suggests intent to kill. Kyle eventually killed two people. The court deemed it as self defence. It could have been manslaughter.

2. As for the central park 5, NOTHING LINKED THEM TO THE CRIME. NOTHING. Trump is a racist for claiming their guilt without any evidence
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 7:00pm On May 02
tctrills:
Mr DeepSight
Back to the abortion issue.
Am I right to summarise your take like this,
It's up to the individual to decide when abortion becomes killing a human being.
It is only when the mother decides that it is a human being in her womb that it becomes a human being. Until she decides, it is whatever she says it is.
Why are you like this, why are you trying to mangle what I said
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 7:01pm On May 02
IjeBos:
Why are you still arguing with him?
Where are my eyes? I can't believe I see this.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 7:06pm On May 02
benalvino3:
A claim can be serious even without a lawsuit.
Just look at this. And yet the one with lawsuits and even civil and criminal judgments is meaningless to you.
What can I say. I mean, at a point your own double standards should be clear to you.

This is exactly like raumdeuter who claimed that he would vote even a rapist serial killer if his policies favor him so long as a court declares him innocent. He made out that he respects courts. Just not any court that rules against Trump.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by tctrills: 7:08pm On May 02
DeepSight:
Why are you like this, why are you trying to mangle what I said
I completely understood what you said. But you never knew that the standard you set for Trump would apply to you.
Was Trump racist when he accused the kids from New York?
Are you racist when you accuse Trump
Please show me why we should treat you differently?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 7:14pm On May 02
DeepSight:
Just look at this. And yet the one with lawsuits and even civil and criminal judgments is meaningless to you.
What can I say. I mean, at a point your own double standards should be clear to you.

This is exactly like raumdeuter who claimed that he would vote even a rapist serial killer if his policies favor him so long as a court declares him innocent. He made out that he respects courts. Just not any court that rules against Trump.
His standard is lawsuit but Bayelsaowei hates the Supreme Court anytime they decide on what he does not like.

So yes, the statement is true. Trump is also a victim of lawfare.

Your understanding is flawed either by design or you have comprehension issue.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by tctrills: 7:16pm On May 02
GracieX3:
What rubbish are you saying? You are comparing two different cases.

1. Kyle Rittenhouse brought a gun to a charged protest. That alone suggests intent to kill. Kyle eventually killed two people. The court deemed it as self defence. It could have been manslaughter.

2. As for the central park 5, NOTHING LINKED THEM TO THE CRIME. NOTHING. Trump is a racist for claiming their guilt without any evidence
So, you are saying Kyle brought a gun with the intent to kill. That alone is a crime.
And you are saying that Kyle committed manslaughter but the Jury deemed it self defense.

Is it not clear that you are a racist by your standards.
Kyle was not found guilty of carrying a gun with the intent to kill.
He was found innocent of manslaughter but you still accuse him even when the Jury says otherwise.

You are not different from Trump. You are guilty of the standards you set.
You said for Kyle, it could have been manslaughter but the Jury says it was self-defence, it couldn't have been manslaughter.

You are no different from Trump, you only believe what you choose to believe.

Now you have created your new set of laws to justify calling Kyle a murderer.

It is a shame. But then, the left feels no shame
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 7:17pm On May 02
bemeruca:
His standard is lawsuit but Bayelsaowei hates the Supreme Court anytime they decide on what he does not like.

So yes, the statement is true. Trump is also a victim of lawfare.

Your understanding is flawed either by design or you have comprehension issue.
Ridiculous. Both you and Rukus Ram only hold on to law suits when convenient. Once a court decides against Trump you fling it.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 7:19pm On May 02
bemeruca:
Bayelsaowei does not understand this. JD Vance called him Nazi, Piers Morgan, Joe Scarborough, but when they want to talk and sit with him, he is friendly and nice.

That is why their side are the ones shooting people in the throat. If they are like Trump, they'd be nicer instead of killing and disowning their parents and love ones because of their opinions.
Trump will always talk and say his mind whether you like what he says or not, whether its politically correct or not. He talks to you like he will talk to your friends. He doesnt do media training and comes across as authentic, unscripted and original . He wont be saying "unburdened by what has been"

If you want to talk he is available and if you have better points you can convince him
Trump takes media interview for fun. No scripts needed. He sat with Rogan for almost 3hrs while others will be asking for questions to be sent to them beforehand
If the media does not see Trump for 2 days its already a scandal unlike other presidents that wont make public appearances for 2 months and they are as sharp as a tack

That natural charisma that they lack which Trump has in abundance pains them and they wont stop at anything including assassination to silence him
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 7:20pm On May 02
GracieX3:
What rubbish are you saying? You are comparing two different cases.

1. Kyle Rittenhouse brought a gun to a charged protest. That alone suggests intent to kill. Kyle eventually killed two people. The court deemed it as self defence. It could have been manslaughter.

2. As for the central park 5, NOTHING LINKED THEM TO THE CRIME. NOTHING. Trump is a racist for claiming their guilt without any evidence
The central park 5 had a confession admitting they did it which was the basis for Trump statements
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 7:22pm On May 02
DeepSight:
Just look at this. And yet the one with lawsuits and even civil and criminal judgments is meaningless to you.
What can I say. I mean, at a point your own double standards should be clear to you.

This is exactly like radeuter who claimed that he would vote even a rapist serial killer if his policies favor him so long as a court declares him innocent. He made out that he respects courts. Just not any court that rules against Trump.
I dont do mob justice. If the court says he is innocent then he is innocent

If you have evidence of Trump molesting little kids bring it to court and get a conviction like an educated person not peddling gossips
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by tctrills: 7:29pm On May 02
GracieX3:
What rubbish are you saying? You are comparing two different cases.

1. Kyle Rittenhouse brought a gun to a charged protest. That alone suggests intent to kill. Kyle eventually killed two people. The court deemed it as self defence. It could have been manslaughter.

2. As for the central park 5, NOTHING LINKED THEM TO THE CRIME. NOTHING. Trump is a racist for claiming their guilt without any evidence
Even after being found completely innocent, you are accusing Kyle of bringing a gun with the intent to kill. Why are you not a racist? How are you different from Trump

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by tctrills: 7:32pm On May 02
GracieX3:
What rubbish are you saying? You are comparing two different cases.

1. Kyle Rittenhouse brought a gun to a charged protest. That alone suggests intent to kill. Kyle eventually killed two people. The court deemed it as self defence. It could have been manslaughter.

2. As for the central park 5, NOTHING LINKED THEM TO THE CRIME. NOTHING. Trump is a racist for claiming their guilt without any evidence
Deepsight, even after being found innocent, your leftist girl is still accusing Kyle of very serious crimes. Would you tell her to her face that she is a racist or does this only apply to Trump.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 7:33pm On May 02
DeepSight:
Ridiculous. Both you and Rukus Ram only hold on to law suits when convenient. Once a court decides against Trump you fling it.
You still concurred the lie IjeBos told.
You are not a serious person
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 7:35pm On May 02
raumdeuter:
I dont do mob justice. If the court says he is innocent then he is innocent
So why dont you accept the courts conviction of Trump as well as its decision on the civil suit for sexual assault?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 7:35pm On May 02
bemeruca:
You still concurred the lie IjeBos told.
You are not a serious person
He is scared to be excommunucated from the leftist cult

You know they demand total obedience to walk lock step

No use for independent thinking
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 7:36pm On May 02
DeepSight:
So why dont you accept the courts conviction of Trump as well as its decision on the civil suit for sexual assault?
If they found him guilty of rape or child molestation he would be in jail and not in the white house
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