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Harnny:
quote me... please. State where I stated it as a fact and not asked you a question making reference. If you cannot, then it is you who lie.

You used those examples as comparison to Islamic terror activities. If you are not deceptive, you wouldn't have used those as examples or comparison because there is no meeting point between them and Islamic terrorism.

I think you have a problem comprehending what you read. Is there a point where I mentioned that I do not understand the references in the passage? This is proof that I am able to understand both ways but you only choose to lift text out of contexts.

Stop deceiving yourself. Using them in your question to tackle Islamic terrorism is your way of saying those activities are similar to Islamic terrorism.

Now that you have been caught in your own web of lies, you are looking for escape route.

So typical!

olabrad:
You used those examples as comparison to Islamic terror activities. If you are not deceptive, you wouldn't have used those as examples or comparison because there is no meeting point between them and Islamic terrorism.




Stop deceiving yourself. Using them in your question to tackle Islamic terrorism is your way of saying those activities are similar to Islamic terrorism.

Now that you have been caught in your own web of lies, you are looking for escape route.

So typical!

Oh!... it took you few days to go through the thread and find out you could not quote me.

You lied that I stated a fact, yet you cannot quote me and I am still the one lying? You had to settle for whataboutism. pathetic.

olabrad:
If you understand proverbs, you'll know that the wordings in a proverb don't have direct meanings. They are used for mere analogy, but being a Muslim can rob you of such a simple understanding.

Go and read Quran 9:29 by yourself
The verse is EXPLICIT and STRAIGHTFORWARD. You can't hide behind any context in that verse. It specifically told you what to do, who to fight against, why you should fight against them and when you should stop fighting against them.

I know you want to hide behind the "time of war" lie as your context, but that verse didn't say you should fight against them because they are at war with you. It says you should fight against them because they don't accept your alllllah!

No hiding place for Islamic lies anymore!

How do you define double standard.

You can offer explanations to Bible but not for the Quran.

Oh!.. the verse has to state specifically what it is addressing at that certain time. If that is evident of all texts, why then do you need scholars and pastors to explain or interprete the Biblical contexts?

I am smart enough to understand both. Are you?

Mind you, you should probably check the name of God in the Arabic Bibles before you shoot yourself in the leg.

Harnny:
How do you define double standard.

You can offer explanations to Bible but not for the Quran.

It is common sense that a proverb doesn't directly attack the subjects of the proverb. A proverb is just an analogy.

Harnny:
How do you define double standard.

You can offer explanations to Bible but not for the Quran.

It is common sense that a proverb doesn't directly attack the subjects of the proverb. A proverb is just an analogy.

Oh!.. the verse has to state specifically what it is addressing at that certain time. If that is evident of all texts, why then do you need scholars and pastors to explain or interprete the Biblical contexts?

If you say Quran 9:29 is only useful at that time, then you are saying that some of your Allah's words are now outdated! . Why are you insulting your allllla?!

Qur'an 9:29 told you who to atack, why you should atack them and when you should stop atacking them. The verse is too clear and you can't hide behind any non-existing context!

I study Bible at home by myself and understand it. I don't need a scholar or pastor to tell me the meaning of bible contents.

Harnny:
How do you define double standard.

You can offer explanations to Bible but not for the Quran.

It is common sense that a proverb doesn't directly attack the subjects of the proverb. A proverb is just an analogy.

Oh!.. the verse has to state specifically what it is addressing at that certain time. If that is evident of all texts, why then do you need scholars and pastors to explain or interprete the Biblical contexts?

If you say Quran 9:29 is only useful at that time, then you are saying that some of your Allah's words are now outdated! . Why are you insulting your allllla?!

Qur'an 9:29 told you who to atack, why you should atack them and when you should stop atacking them. The verse is too clear and you can't hide behind any non-existing context!

I study Bible at home by myself and understand it. I don't need a scholar or pastor to tell me the meaning of bible contents.

I am smart enough to understand both. Are you?

The highest level of self deception is when you think you are smart, whereas smartness has nothhing to do with you!

olabrad:
It is common sense that a proverb doesn't directly attack the subjects of the proverb. A proverb is just an analogy.





If you say Quran 9:29 is only useful at that time, then you are saying that some of your Allah's words are now outdated! . Why are you insulting your allllla?!

Qur'an 9:29 told you who to atack, why you should atack them and when you should stop atacking them. The verse is too clear and you can't hide behind any non-existing context!

I study Bible at home by myself and understand it. I don't need a scholar or pastor to tell me the meaning of bible contents.



The highest level of self deception is when you think you are smart, whereas smartness has nothhing to do with you!

Was the same proverb not addressing event at that time applicable to present day event if the scenarios are replicated?
Bro.... I know I am smart. My achievements speaks for themselves and I thank God for grace.
Smart enough to not tarnish someone else's believe simply to validate mine.

olabrad:
You used those examples as comparison to Islamic terror activities. If you are not deceptive, you wouldn't have used those as examples or comparison because there is no meeting point between them and Islamic terrorism.




Stop deceiving yourself. Using them in your question to tackle Islamic terrorism is your way of saying those activities are similar to Islamic terrorism.

Now that you have been caught in your own web of lies, you are looking for escape route.

So typical!

You obviously could not comprehend my questions. You made bold claims but can not quote me. Now you are hoping to justify you reasoning. I have asked one thing... Quote me where I said... I am quoting you now "You also claimed that IPOB is a Christian terror group".
If you cannot quote me, then you are the liar. Even in my analogy, I never claimed they are a christian terror group.
What do I expect, Mr black Jesus.

olabrad:
It is common sense that a proverb doesn't directly attack the subjects of the proverb. A proverb is just an analogy.

Exactly, and it requires a context. Thats fair, Same with command, law and instructions. Only if you are being truthful.

Harnny:
Exactly, and it requires a context. Thats fair, Same with command, law and instructions. Only if you are being truthful.

There is nothing like context in a proverb. A proverb is a proverb, not a personal attack on the subject.

The commands in your Quran are explicit and straightforward. It commands you to fight against non-Muslims just because they choose a different religion.

So, stop hiding behind any context!

Harnny:
You obviously could not comprehend my questions. You made bold claims but can not quote me. Now you are hoping to justify you reasoning. I have asked one thing... Quote me where I said... I am quoting you now "You also claimed that IPOB is a Christian terror group".
If you cannot quote me, then you are the liar. Even in my analogy, I never claimed they are a christian terror group.
What do I expect, Mr black Jesus.

When I talked about Islamic terrorism, did you compare it with IPOB and USA/Japan war or not?!

The discussion started with you comparing Paul with your founder. Paul id a far better human being than your founder!

Harnny:
Was the same proverb not addressing event at that time applicable to present day event if the scenarios are replicated?
Bro.... I know I am smart. My achievements speaks for themselves and I thank God for grace.
Smart enough to not tarnish someone else's believe simply to validate mine.

You are far from smart! Stop deceiving yourself.

The proverb wasn't calling that woman a dog. It was a mere analogy. That Quran passage is a straightforward commandment, not an analogy. Stop hiding your br@nlesness behind bogus word usage!

That proverb can be used at any point to address different scenarios without any indicating that the subject is a dog!

Quran 19:29 is explicit and straightforward. It says you should fight against non-Muslims just because they choose a different religion.

Stop deceiving yourself!

There is even no ground for comparing the two, just like there is no ground for comparing Islamic terrorism with IPOB or USA/Japan war. Your phony and funny comparisons exposed you as very un-smart!

Stop deceiving yourself.

olabrad:
When I talked about Islamic terrorism, did you compare it with IPOB and USA/Japan war or not?!

The discussion started with you comparing Paul with your founder. Paul id a far better human being than your founder!

Then again, another lie. please quote me.
If you cannot quote me, then you are the liar.
Common basic English use, there is a different between comparison and analogy.
Well, what do I expect from a black Jesus promoter.

olabrad:
You are far from smart! Stop deceiving yourself.

The proverb wasn't calling that woman a dog. It was a mere analogy. That Quran passage is a straightforward commandment, not an analogy. Stop hiding your br@nlesness behind bogus word usage!

That proverb can be used at any point to address different scenarios without any indicating that the subject is a dog!

Quran 19:29 is explicit and straightforward. It says you should fight against non-Muslims just because they choose a different religion.

Stop deceiving yourself!

There is even no ground for comparing the two, just like there is no ground for comparing Islamic terrorism with IPOB or USA/Japan war. Your phony and funny comparisons exposed you as very un-smart!

Stop deceiving yourself.

First, quote me. Then ask whatever AI you use to explain to you like a todler.
For someone who understands a proverb. You seem to have selective processing.

olabrad:
There is nothing like context in a proverb. A proverb is a proverb, not a personal attack on the subject.

The commands in your Quran are explicit and straightforward. It commands you to fight against non-Muslims just because they choose a different religion.

So, stop hiding behind any context!

O!... so I can take a proverb as surface meaning. between, is it written there that it is a proverb?

You can infer from that but cannot infer from the Quranic text? Weird.

Like I said, Selective processing.

Harnny:
O!... so I can take a proverb as surface meaning. between, is it written there that it is a proverb?

You claim to be smart, yet, you can't understand a simple sentence. Anyone with half a brain will know that my comment has nothing to do with your line of reasoning.

You can infer from that but cannot infer from the Quranic text? Weird.

Like I said, Selective processing.

It's strange that I have to repeat the same thing to someone who claimed to be smart!

A proverb is an analogy and that your Quran verse is straightforward. It tells you in very simple term to fight against non-Muslims because they choose a different religion.

Are you trying to say reasoning is beyond your capacity or you are just pretending to be stttunppid?!

Harnny:
O!... so I can take a proverb as surface meaning. between, is it written there that it is a proverb?

You claim to be smart, yet, you can't understand a simple sentence. Anyone with half a brain will know that my comment has nothing to do with your line of reasoning.

You can infer from that but cannot infer from the Quranic text? Weird.

Like I said, Selective processing.

It's strange that I have to repeat the same thing to someone who claimed to be smart!

A proverb is an analogy and that your Quran verse is straightforward. It tells you in very simple term to fight against non-Muslims because they choose a different religion.

Are you trying to say reasoning is beyond ya cappacity or you are just pretending to be siteuped?!

olabrad:
You claim to be smart, yet, you can't understand a simple sentence. Anyone with half a brain will know that my comment has nothing to do with your line of reasoning.



It's strange that I have to repeat the same thing to someone who claimed to be smart!

A proverb is an analogy and that your Quran verse is straightforward. It tells you in very simple term to fight against non-Muslims because they choose a different religion.

Are you trying to say reasoning is beyond ya cappacity or you are just pretending to be siteuped?!

There is a context for Biblical verse, you are explaining it is a proverb, I agree. There is a context for the Quranic text, it was revealed to address a certain aggression, you disagress. I understand your point, but would not understand our point of you. Guess what that is called?

For the kind of person you are, you would deal out insult and find a way to game a system to avoid being caught dealing out insults... some christian you are.

Harnny:
There is a context for Biblical verse, you are explaining it is a proverb, I agree. There is a context for the Quranic text, it was revealed to address a certain aggression, you disagress. I understand your point, but would not understand our point of you. Guess what that is called?

That bible verse IS A PROVERB. You claim to be smart, but you can't even recognize a simple proverb! Smart Indeed! I'm not claiming any context for that Bible verse. It's a proverb!

Show me any part of Quran 9:29 that indicates that Muslims were facing any aggression even in the slightest form! That verse shows that you Muslims are the aggressors.

The verse didn't say you should fight against those who fight against you, (which would have been a good excuse to call it a verse revealed for certain aggression). It says you should fight against non-Muslims just because they choose a different religion. You were not facing any aggression. You were the aggressors!

For the kind of person you are, you would deal out insult and find a way to game a system to avoid being caught dealing out insults... some christian you are.

You claimed to be smart and you are showcasing yourself as the opposite. So, you brought the insult upon yourself!

By the way, whoever revealed Quran to your founder is not from God Almighty. God Almighty doesn't work like what happened to your founder in the cave of hirah

olabrad:
That bible verse IS A PROVERB. You claim to be smart, but you can't even recognize a simple proverb! Smart Indeed! I'm not claiming any context for that Bible verse. It's a proverb!

Show me any part of Quran 9:29 that indicates that Muslims were facing any aggression even in the slightest form! That verse shows that you Muslims are the aggressors.

The verse didn't say you should fight against those who fight against you, (which would have been a good excuse to call it a verse revealed for certain aggression). It says you should fight against non-Muslims just because they choose a different religion. You were not facing any aggression. You were the aggressors!



You claimed to be smart and you are showcasing yourself as the opposite. So, you brought the insult upon yourself!

By the way, whoever revealed Quran to your founder is not from God Almighty. God Almighty doesn't work like what happened to your founder in the cave of hirah

Well, It does not take away the fact that you are dishing out insult. Have I insulted you at all?

You have said proverb many times right, and I have said the verse is addressing an aggression many times. You choose to accept your end, but refuse to accept my end.

Did your proverb say specifically that the woman is not being referred to as a dog? If the Bible does not carry that detail, why fault the Quran for not being explicit as well? Is that not double standard? Although I do not expect much from a black Jesus claimant.

Harnny:
Well, It does not take away the fact that you are dishing out insult. Have I insulted you at all?

You deserve it a 100 folds. A self acclaimed smart person talking br@inleiss!

You have said proverb many times right, and I have said the verse is addressing an aggression many times. You choose to accept your end, but refuse to accept my end.

Stop being deceptive. It's not what I said; it's what's written in the verse you quoted, except if you are too darft to identify a proverb when you see one. Yet, you are claiming to be smart. It's like you are only smart in twisting facts!

I challenge you to show me the remotest indication of aggression against Muslims in Quran 9:29. Show me instead of making baseless arguments and false claims. The verse is very clear, unambiguous and straightforward!

Did your proverb say specifically that the woman is not being referred to as a dog? If the Bible does not carry that detail, why fault the Quran for not being explicit as well? Is that not double standard? Although I do not expect much from a black Jesus claimant.

Boy, you sound too darft for my liking. So darft that you don't understand the meaning of a proverb.

Or maybe you know it's a proverb, but you are just looking for a way to coverup for the deccay in yoiur fiaike relligion!

There is no details needed anymore in that Bible verse. It was a conversation between Jesus and the woman. Every part of the Convo is recorded there. You are just a deffeated Isliammic liar looking for something to cover up the r0t and deccay in your reliigiion.

Qur'an 9:29 is explicit, clear and straightforward. You are just a shaimeliess liar looking for a nonexistent cover up!

BlackfireX:
Please habibi be serious and don't act confused

Ask a question..

Did the sun and moon stand still? From which contextual meaning or verse...and what is the reason why you asked it?


Mass resurrection? From where who when? Are you saying nothing like resurrection?


Please I know you went to school...don't disgrace your teacher .....shuoooo

Those passages are all in the bible. Or dont u read your bible again?

olabrad:
That bible verse IS A PROVERB. You claim to be smart, but you can't even recognize a simple proverb! Smart Indeed! I'm not claiming any context for that Bible verse. It's a proverb!

Show me any part of Quran 9:29 that indicates that Muslims were facing any aggression even in the slightest form! That verse shows that you Muslims are the aggressors.

The verse didn't say you should fight against those who fight against you, (which would have been a good excuse to call it a verse revealed for certain aggression). It says you should fight against non-Muslims just because they choose a different religion. You were not facing any aggression. You were the aggressors!



You claimed to be smart and you are showcasing yourself as the opposite. So, you brought the insult upon yourself!

By the way, whoever revealed Quran to your founder is not from God Almighty. God Almighty doesn't work like what happened to your founder in the cave of hirah

Lol, you are projecting bro. What do they say about those who results to insult in an argument?

You should at least be reasonable enough to understand basis for revelation. It always address specific or general issues.
So, when you talk to someone about an event, you first describe back the whole event to them before addressing it?
I am responding to you now, do I have to describe or summarize our entire thread before responding? Mr Black Jesus.

Harnny:
Lol, you are projecting bro. What do they say about those who results to insult in an argument?

You can only call it an insult if it doesn't describe the subject perfectly. In this case, it describes you perfectly. So, it's not an insult . It's a perfect description of who you are!

You should at least be reasonable enough to understand basis for revelation. It always address specific or general issues.
So, when you talk to someone about an event, you first describe back the whole event to them before addressing it?
I am responding to you now, do I have to describe or summarize our entire thread before responding? Mr Black Jesus.

Whom you get the revelation from matters. Your founder didn't get any revelation from any angel. He got it from a demon.

Quran 9:29 is a straightforward unambiguous commandment. Instead of beating about the bush, mention specifically the event that made your founder command you to fight against non-Muslims just because they choose a different religion. I'm waiting!

olabrad:
You can only call it an insult if it doesn't describe the subject perfectly. In this case, it describes you perfectly. So, it's not an insult . It's a perfect description of who you are!



Whom you get the revelation from matters. Your founder didn't get any revelation from any angel. He got it from a demon.

Quran 9:29 is a straightforward unambiguous commandment. Instead of beating about the bush, mention specifically the event that made your founder command you to fight against non-Muslims just because they choose a different religion. I'm waiting!

Oh... that's not an insult to you Mr black Jesus?. If it is not an insult, why then are you modifying the text to bypass moderation? Is that not deception?

I am not explaining anything to someone who believes Jesus is a black man. How is he supposed to comprehend? Whats even worse is that you know as you mentioned it yourself down the thread but asking for argument sake.

You jumped from no context to demonic source. So if this was a demon, he will begin every revelation seeking refuge from himself. Dey try reason small na.

I see you already dropped the insult you kept hurling at the word "Allah". At least you learnt something from this engagement.

jaephoenix:
Those passages are all in the bible. Or dont u read your bible again?

So you are clueless


Why are you panicking