₦airaland Forum

2027 is here
LET'S VOTE WISELY

When is Nigerians going to enjoy this natural resources . It keeps on getting worse and worse 😔

Counterigbolies:
u people always know people who are rich now n today they are poor, I never see u talk about winners

Na only losers una know?

Bros, I beg you to enter the business. No forget I tell you. Subsidy don cast the business.

motymop:
Which one is vote wisely

So your candidate will make it 8m once he enters because he can just wake up and fix price

,😂

helinues:
Who is this?Did I direct my comments to you?

oga answer the question

motymop:
Which one is vote wisely

So your candidate will make it 8m once he enters because he can just wake up and fix price

Someone opened a thread and asked why you people are always triggered when you hear "vote wisely"

Can you tell us why una dey triggered by that phrase?

Should we ignore the subsidy?

nairalanda1:
We should also vote tinubu, who has not fought corruption, or even tried to get nigeria to diversify?

RIght.

I no like obi, but if it takes voting out the old and voting in the new every four years till our elite and leaders recieve sense, so be it.

what's obi precedent to make u feel he will change d fortune of Nigeria within 4 years?

Have u forgotten he was governor of Anambra for good 8 years n he did nothing spectacular?

nairalanda1:
8 million naira plus a whole lot of debt in loans and more loans, that was the cost back then..loans taken to replace the monies taken from the budget to subsidise fuel, electricity, and a host of other things....which worsened our debt.

Once you understand how subsidy works, you go get am, you will even get how karma forced tinubu to remove it totally.

By 2022 , we were seeing the end result of decades of taking on more debt to pay for subsidy. All our revenue was going for debt servicing. All of it. Plus including new loans.

The only good thing is that tinubu supporters to some extent now understand why GEJ wanted to remove fuel subsidy...indeed some Nigerians may now understand why world bank and imf wanted us to remove subsidy as far back as 1992...because the thing with subsidy is you can budget X for subsidy for one year, then oil price go rise up, and so does the cost of subsidy, meaning you go take money from other sectors of the budget, and borrow to fill up the resultant deficit. And the scary thing is the money is not going to be enough.

Yet we have said no, no, no. Now here we are. Forced to take a decision that should have been taken decades ago, to expereience pain that should have been done with decades ago.

Yet most nigerians, even tinubu supporters , want subsidy back. LOL. Most tinubu supporters who defend subsidy removal on petrol become angry when asked about removing subsidy on electricity totally.

Tinuuboo supporter, Come out of the closet and support him with your full chest.

Counterigbolies:
y don't u show us d name of the poster?

U know people won't take u serious cos they are d known haters who see nothing good about Nigeria

There is actually nothing good in Nigeria because nigeria left the manageable hands into wrong stealing bigotry hands

peleson1:
There is actually nothing good in Nigeria because nigeria left the manageable hands into wrong stealing bigotry hands

simply because Nigeria refused to vote your packaged fraud

SeverusSnape:
Tinuuboo supporter, Come out of the closet and support him with your full chest.

The thing is, you can do primary school taunting, but when you get how subsidy works, then GEJ's decision in 2012 makes sense. ANd those who were opposing it were busy talking somehow.

I got how subsidy worked in 2012, when GEJ did partial removal. MY eyes opened , and I did the math, and it made for uncomfortable reading. Before then, I was subsidy must stay, government is depriving the masses, etc. After subsidy was partially removed, my mind woke up. Hell, I realized i had been supporting nansense in the name of helping the poor since my teenagehood.

It is because you do not understand how subisidy works...that is why you were supporting its removal in 2012, and opposing it now. My view has not changed since 2012. It has nothing to do with who is in power, as they are all alike to me.

And tinubu must go in 2027, enough is enough of we must build road leaders, we need serious leaders who will diversify our economy, and maybe make it rich enough to bring back some form of subsidy that won't drain our economy. Thought I would not say that, mr tinubu supporta?

Gotocourt:
My family friends own about 15 filling station, the business barely managing. The price fluctuations has literally crumbled the business.
I can't go into the business, no longer profitable 🤷🏿

Then you should know that that family friend of yours is one of those stealing our subsidy fund and can't maintain a proper fuel station when it's time to use Thier own fund for the business.
Right now, fuel stations wey don close for years are now reopening, some under franchise, others under their own identity, fuel stations are currently the major beneficiary of the inflation in the economy, because it's whatever they buy that they are selling, even the once in remote areas now has fuel to sell

Gotocourt:
My family friends own about 15 filling station, the business barely managing. The price fluctuations has literally crumbled the business.
I can't go into the business, no longer profitable 🤷🏿

Upstream is where the money is.

Nextjs:
I just saw this on Facebook now and a lot went through my mind.

Someon even responded that it's selling for
60,750,000 naira now in matrix dapo.

in 2023, you would have paid 8m for a tanker and the federal govt would have paid the 60m balance

today, you are paying for the tanker in full

the price of a tanker has not changed - the party paying for the tanker is what has changed

motymop:
Which one is vote wisely

So your candidate will make it 8m once he enters because he can just wake up and fix price

At least your saviour should use his magic wand to take it to the price he took over from the previous dulla*d.
Why looking for someone to repair what you guys destroyed.

not only that, the amount dem dey loot don go up too.
before na 3 billion max, now na 200 billion. even okowa take 1 trillion, el rufau 400 billion

OlujobaSamuel:
Then you should know that that family friend of yours is one of those stealing our subsidy fund and can't maintain a proper fuel station when it's time to use Thier own fund for the business.
Right now, fuel stations wey don close for years are now reopening, some under franchise, others under their own identity, fuel stations are currently the major beneficiary of the inflation in the economy, because it's whatever they buy that they are selling, even the once in remote areas now has fuel to sell

helinues:
Who is this?Did I direct my comments to you?

You drop ur comment on a public forum. So expect response from anyone

motymop:
Which one is vote wisely

So your candidate will make it 8m once he enters because he can just wake up and fix price

How did Tinubu move it from 240 to 800 b4 the iran war

helinues:
When it was that 8 m, how many Nigerians are into oil business?

Una see why it's a waste of time to be engaging with some of those opposition supporters. Their reasonings are aged as stone age

There were about 25 filling stations along a popular road in Ogun state as at 2024, today they have reduced to less than 5

helinues:
When it was that 8 m, how many Nigerians are into oil business?

Una see why it's a waste of time to be engaging with some of those opposition supporters. Their reasonings are aged as stone age

Baseless argument. Baseless talk. Baseless comment. Baseless Baseless Baseless Baseless

Counterigbolies:
what's obi precedent to make u feel he will change d fortune of Nigeria within 4 years?

Have u forgotten he was governor of Anambra for good 8 years n he did nothing spectacular?

Same thing about tinubu. I was in Lagos after he left office. Lagos was still awful. And it is still awful up till today.

Your governors and leaders are all 'I will build roads' and I will build buildings leaders. Sustainable economic growth, they do not know. Same thing with army....because it is what most nigerians want...they want leaders who will build things for them, not give them sustained economic growth...because doing that means some hard choices have to be made, which most of your leaders do not want to make.

That is why I say we should vote out tinubu, vote in obi or anyone else, let them do things different, and if they do not, vote obi or whoever comes in out...till we get a leader who gives us a working economy, not free gifts.

nairalanda1:
Same thing about tinubu. I was in Lagos after he left office. Lagos was still awful. And it is still awful up till today.

Your governors and leaders are all 'I will build roads' and I will build buildings leaders. Sustainable economic growth, they do not know. Same thing with army....because it is what most nigerians want...they want leaders who will build things for them, not give them sustained economic growth...because doing that means some hard choices have to be made, which most of your leaders do not want to make.

That is why I say we should vote out tinubu, vote in obi or anyone else, let them do things different, and if they do not, vote obi or whoever comes in out...till we get a leader who gives us a working economy, not free gifts.

leave tinubu out of this

At least we have both agreed he failed?

Oya tell us what obi will do differently n how he did it in Anambra?

Counterigbolies:
leave tinubu out of this

At least we have both agreed he failed?

Oya tell us what obi will do differently n how he did it in Anambra?

That's the thing, I have no hope that Obi would do well, but I also have no hope tinubu will do well, and no, I am not leaving tinubu out of it, even if it makes you cry.

What I have hope for is that Nigerians vote out failure, and if the new guys fail , we vote them out too. Maybe some day we would get people that would tell us the truth and give us a proper agenda to get from third world to first, or we keep on grumbling the same way we were grumbling as far back as the 1980's and before.

But as you want free gifts...

Go back to 2023 then. Some people loose their sense of reasoning just to please their sponsors. The Trump war has caused the increase in the price of fuel worldwide. To exercise common sense, you need to compare the prices of fuel in other countries at 2023 to what is obtainable now.

Nextjs:
I just saw this on Facebook now and a lot went through my mind.

Someon even responded that it's selling for
60,750,000 naira now in matrix dapo.

OlujobaSamuel:
Then you should know that that family friend of yours is one of those stealing our subsidy fund and can't maintain a proper fuel station when it's time to use Thier own fund for the business.
Right now, fuel stations wey don close for years are now reopening, some under franchise, others under their own identity, fuel stations are currently the major beneficiary of the inflation in the economy, because it's whatever they buy that they are selling, even the once in remote areas now has fuel to sell

A liter was sold for 220 on may 29 before Tinubu announced subsidy removal which shot price instantly to 520. Remember there was scarcity. Do the maths on the funds.
Franchise is the new bae, I've advised them to do that but old is thinking of his business name while alive.
Also expenses is another thing, they're installing solar gradually to cut cost.
NMDPRA sanctions is all time high because of cut in funding by Tinubu and are looking for revenue.

Answer the question Mr man. This is a public forum. What is your point exactly. We want to understand the msg you are tryingto convey.

helinues:
Who is this?Did I direct my comments to you?

Karlifate:
Upstream is where the money is.

You too Sabi 📌💯

Gotocourt:
My family friends own about 15 filling station, the business barely managing. The price fluctuations has literally crumbled the business.
I can't go into the business, no longer profitable 🤷🏿

Exactly what these guys failed to understand....I understand what you are talking about...When prices of goods fluctuate,it not too good for an entrepreneur...Just lost 2k litres of diesel then you will understand how volatile the economy of this country has become...When I hear ppl supporting APC government/singing on your mandate they shall stand I little wonder which mandate Exactly...Some of us aren't lazy but the policy of this government is making business very unpredictable for us..I can't even talk here.Some things are beat unsaid....

nairalanda1:
That's the thing, I have no hope that Obi would do well, but I also have no hope tinubu will do well, and no, I am not leaving tinubu out of it, even if it makes you cry.

What I have hope for is that Nigerians vote out failure, and if the new guys fail , we vote them out too. Maybe some day we would get people that would tell us the truth and give us a proper agenda to get from third world to first, or we keep on grumbling the same way we were grumbling as far back as the 1980's and before.

But as you want free gifts...

nobody is crying about anything, Nigeria will not b run on trial n error basis

If u suggest someone like sowore or any other person that hasn't been tested before I agree but it's bullshit if u bring any of the old faces

If u can't bring a new person then tinubu will continue, so u want us to put someone u can't pinpoint his achievement or legacy project for good 8 years as governor of a tiny state to come n do trial n error

N besides tell me d bad policies of tinubu that obi will reverse?

helinues:
Who is this?Did I direct my comments to you?

Why are you CORNfused? Answer the simple question.

Simple question, just respond accordingly

helinues:
Who is this?Did I direct my comments to you?