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DeepSight:
Please be consistent - are you now changing mouth? Because you shout "it should be merit" when people are allegedly favoured by race.
Why are you defending people being favoured by money?

Is money academic merit?

And the bold in your post above is disgusting. You are now saying its okay to sell admissions simpliciter right? For such distinguished schools?
Shame.

They should admit on what they want and doesnt discriminate any group

Academic Sporting money doesnt discriminate against any group cos any race can be brilliant athletic or rich unlike race. When you say I am.admitting because you are white you have automatically disqualified other races because nothing a Hispanic Asian can do to meet that criteria

raumdeuter:
Whites are not the richest demographic per capita

Money or riches is color blind. You can get rich regardless of your color

Actually the average Nigerian Americans are richer than the average white

This is too nonsensical to address.

raumdeuter:
They should admit on what they want and doesnt discriminate any group

Academic Sporting money doesnt discriminate against any group cos any race can be brilliant athletic or rich unlike race. When you say I am.admitting because you are white you have automatically disqualified other races because nothing a Hispanic Asian can do to meet that criteria

I cant waste my time further with you.
At least I will hold this conversation as evidence that you have dumped merit.

DeepSight:
Just admit your argument has collapsed.

If you are to stay consistent - at least try and start where Benalvino3 did - by saying all are bad and should be banned, including preference based on money,

Schools admit based on what you can achieve or aspire to

If I say you need to meet this SAT score this money, this athletic standard you can try to

Now imagine I say I admit only Asians, how can deepsight become Asian even if he tried?

raumdeuter:
So we can say Obama killed of Americans in their thousands as well
So we can say Obama killed Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown

That's the difference between me and you, I will call Obama a killer any day any time as well - but for different reasons than the above nonsense.

raumdeuter:
Schools admit based on what you can achieve or aspire to

If I say you need to meet this SAT score this money, this athletic standard you can try to

Now imagine I say I admit only Asians, how can deepsight become Asian even if he tried?

Good evening.

DeepSight:
I cant waste my time further with you.
At least I will hold this conversation as evidence that you have dumped merit.

Do schools admit kn other criteria that are non academic Yes but they are not discriminatory because anyone can be an athlete or rich

You lack the ability to reason deeply you are mostly emotional and at best your surface level

You cannot discriminate ob attributes that are immutable human characteristics

DeepSight:
That's the difference between me and you, I will call Obama a killer any day any time as well - but for different reasons than the above nonsense.

List the people Trump killed in your opinion so I can find the equivalent for Obama as well

DeepSight:
Good evening.

How are you my boy?

Hope you got the schooling you needed

raumdeuter:
Do schools admit kn other criteria that are non academic Yes but they are not discriminatory because anyone can be an athlete or rich

You lack the ability to reason deeply you are mostly emotional and at best your surface level

You cannot discriminate ob attributes that are immutable human characteristics

Oga, is money academic merit, yes or no?
I hope you know admission based on money is no different from bribing for admission.

If my son is a retard, I just need to donate.

For your education Deepsight

In Bostock v. Clayton County (2020), the Supreme Court ruled that discrimination based on "immutable characteristics" such as sexual orientation or gender identity constitutes illegal sex discrimination under Title VII. The Court focused on whether a trait is fundamental to identity, rather than strictly unchangeable

raumdeuter:
List the people Trump killed in your opinion so I can find the equivalent for Obama as well

I already did so above. And I will go further and help you to show you how balanced I am. Obama's hands are full of blood in places like Libya and with his drone warfare all over the middle east.

Let me even go yet further. The death of one of his servants in a pool is extremely suspect.

There you go.
Learn balance and objectivity and stop worshiping.

DeepSight:
Oga, is money academic merit, yes or no?
I hope you know admission based on money is no different from bribing for admission.

If my son is a retard, I just need to donate.

Schools have different criteria for admission as long as its not discriminating on immutable human characteristics

Like I told you if your son is not book smart but can be trained to run fast, swim fast, excellent quarter back etc he can get admission as well

DeepSight:
I already did so above. And I will go further and help you to show you how balanced I am. Obama's hands are full of blood in places like Libya and with his drone warfare all over the middle east.

Let me even go yet further. The death of one of his servants in a pool is extremely suspect.

There you go.
Learn balance and objectivity and stop worshiping.

List the Americans Trump killed and those Obama killed

Give their names.

raumdeuter:
For your education Deepsight

In Bostock v. Clayton County (2020), the Supreme Court ruled that discrimination based on "immutable characteristics" such as sexual orientation or gender identity constitutes illegal sex discrimination under Title VII. The Court focused on whether a trait is fundamental to identity, rather than strictly unchangeable

I already said from the beginning that the SC had banned the race preference factor.

Why not ban the wealth one?

raumdeuter:
List the Americans Trump killed and those Obama killed

Give their names.

You do it. I have already tried for you.

DeepSight:
Not at all.
And I repeat - is class academic merit?

Also answer - do you also oppose Black Economic Empowerment Policies in South Africa?

Blacks control the country in South Africa. What are you talking about?

How does it change the fact that you are confusing class for race?

DeepSight:
I already said from the beginning that the SC had banned the race preference factor.

Why not ban the wealth one?

Wealth is not immutable. Anyone can be wealthy. Poor people can become wealthy and wealthy people can become poor

Why ban what changes frequently and anyone can aspire to

Nigerian Americans are actually richer than many white or Hispanic groups

DeepSight:
You do it. I have already tried for you.

This is intellectual laziness. You are the one who called Trump a killer. List the people he killed by their names

raumdeuter:
This is intellectual laziness. You are the one who called Trump a killer. List the people he killed by their names

I listed.

Look above.

Intellectual laziness is refusing to read before posting.

raumdeuter:
Wealth is not immutable. Anyone can be wealthy. Poor people can become wealthy and wealthy people can become poor

Why ban what changes frequently and anyone can aspire to

Nigerian Americans are actually richer than many white or Hispanic groups

Can you please accept that admission based on wealth is also discrimination?

Can you admit that that is against academic merit?

DeepSight:
I listed.

Look above.

Intellectual laziness is refusing to read before posting.

Quote it or list by their names those that were killed by Trump

raumdeuter:
Do you also call those who claim the Trump assassination attempts were fake are sick people

You are ill too..

Seek medical attention right away..

For the sake of your kids and future generation, please run to the hospital quickly..

DeepSight:
Can you please accept that admission based on wealth is also discrimination?

Can you admit that that is against academic merit?

Academic merit is not the only criteria for admission. People who dont meet academic merit but are atletic get admitted regularly

Maybe by your line of argument you can also say admission based on test scores and school grades is also discriminatory

benalvino3:
Blacks control the country in South Africa. What are you talking about?

How does it change the fact that you are confusing class for race?

1. Please answer the question on BEEE
Do you oppose it?

2. Nothing to do with confusing class for race. The question is simple. Is money academic merit? No. You have already admitted the wealth preference should go as well, unlike raumdeuter. So what are you on about?

DeepSight:
Prove it.

And among those unqualified people, dont forget to list the whites who got same by donation.

You are asking for proof, but the proof is in the Harvard case itself.

Harvard admitted that race was considered in admissions. Their defense no be: we never used race.

Their defense na: we used race as one factor among many.

Which brings us to the Supreme Court opinion also stated that in Harvard’s process, race was a determinative tip for a significant percentage of admitted African American and Hispanic applicants. That means some applicants were admitted where race made the difference.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/22pdf/20-1199_hgdj.pdf?utm_source=chatgpt.com

The evidence from Peter Arcidiacono’s expert report was even clearer based on statistic: if Asian-American applicants were treated as African-American applicants, their predicted admission rate would rise from 3.95% to 24.2%. If treated as Hispanic, it would rise to 12.3%. If treated as white, it would rise to 4.7%.

https://studentsforfairadmissions.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Doc-415-1-Arcidiacono-Expert-Report.pdf?utm_source=chatgpt.com

bayelsaowei:
You are ill too..

Seek medical attention right away..

For the sake of your kids and future generation, please run to the hospital quickly..

Characteristics of mentally lazy and dull people. They will rather throw insults

Even despite how much I schooled deepsight he still makes a feeble effort unlike you who has surrendered that he is not smart and can never be

raumdeuter:
Schools have different criteria for admission as long as its not discriminating on immutable human characteristics

Like I told you if your son is not book smart but can be trained to run fast, swim fast, excellent quarter back etc he can get admission as well

Wealth is not academic merit and should not hold sway.

Sports can even have an argument because sports is itself a discipline and courses exist in sports in schools and for sure it is the sporting ability of the student looked at not that of the parent!

So even if wealth were to be considered why the wealth of a parent?

Did the child do anything to earn that wealth? ? ? ?

Just as you cannot change your race a child cannot change the wealth of his parents before he even goes to school. At least such would be as rare as the unicorn.

raumdeuter:
Quote it or list by their names those that were killed by Trump

It's above in answer to Ben before you came. Check. Stop being lazy.

DeepSight:
It's above in answer to Ben before you came. Check. Stop being lazy.

Now list the same category of people who were killed under Obama

benalvino3:
You are asking for proof, but the proof is in the Harvard case itself.

Harvard admitted that race was considered in admissions. Their defense no be: we never used race.

Their defense na: we used race as one factor among many.

Which brings us to the Supreme Court opinion also stated that in Harvard’s process, race was a determinative tip for a significant percentage of admitted African American and Hispanic applicants. That means some applicants were admitted where race made the difference.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/22pdf/20-1199_hgdj.pdf?utm_source=chatgpt.com

The evidence from Peter Arcidiacono’s expert report was even clearer based on statistic: if Asian-American applicants were treated as African-American applicants, their predicted admission rate would rise from 3.95% to 24.2%. If treated as Hispanic, it would rise to 12.3%. If treated as white, it would rise to 4.7%.

https://studentsforfairadmissions.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Doc-415-1-Arcidiacono-Expert-Report.pdf?utm_source=chatgpt.com

My argument is that all admitted applicants are qualified and that race was only one of several tips. And that it was justifiable based on the imperative of social engineering in light of the discriminations of history against blacks.

I further argue that the said race tip has been banned now, but the wealth one remains and it favours whites far more that the race tip ever favoured blacks.

raumdeuter:
Now list the same category of people who were killed under Obama

Because you are my commander right?
Sorry, I only accept dominant voluptuous women as my commanders.