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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 7:00pm On May 10 |
DeepSight:White owns 70% of ALL THE PERSONAL FARM LAND. Thats a far cry from the lie you are spreading. There are so much lands in SA, the government can start farms for people. Well, they tried and it failed. Since 1994, South Africa has transferred land/farms to Black beneficiaries through land restitution and land redistribution programs. The government’s own land reform page says it supports beneficiaries with financing, training, market access, irrigation, seeds, fertiliser, and equipment. https://www.gov.za/issues/land-reform?utm_source=chatgpt.com So it has failed. A recurring problem is that giving people land is not the same as making the farm productive. weak post-settlement support, poor coordination, lack of skills, corruption/mismanagement in communal property structures, underfunding, and disputes among beneficiaries. This informations are everywhere but you like to argue from ignorance. https://www.parliament.gov.za/storage/app/media/Pages/2017/october/High_Level_Panel/Commissioned_Report_land/Diagnostic_Report_on_Land_Reform_in_South_Africa.pdf?utm_source=chatgpt.com |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 7:01pm On May 10 |
tctrills:It's a corruption problem not race, not favouratism based on race, but rather class. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 7:06pm On May 10 |
raumdeuter:My problem with you is the ability to rationalize white crime but never for similar issues with blacks. Why? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 7:06pm On May 10 |
Lets say Hispanic dominate the construction industry, if there is a scandal involved with stealing materials at construction sites. It only makes sense that there will be more Hispanics |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 7:07pm On May 10 |
raumdeuter:It is the prowess of the child. Get that into your head. With wealth, it's not even the child's money. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 7:07pm On May 10 |
raumdeuter:Why are you unable to rationalize for blacks like this? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 7:08pm On May 10 |
raumdeuter:And why do you fail to rationalize for blacks like this when it comes to the correlation between poverty and crime? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 7:08pm On May 10 |
DeepSight:Its not rationalization when you commit more crime in an environment you dominate E.g Southern Nigerians dominate exam malpractice because southern Niigerians go to school more When blacks say dominate an industry so they will likely commit more crimes in it |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 7:10pm On May 10 |
raumdeuter:Good so what is the problem understanding black crime as corelated to poverty. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 7:10pm On May 10 |
DeepSight: DeepSight:Its no point that blacks commit more crimes in an environment with more blacks. E.g if you are talking about hip hop related crimes will anyone be shocked its dominated by the people who dominate hip hop? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 7:11pm On May 10 |
DeepSight:Blacks didnt commit as much crimes 70yrs ago when they were even poorer What is causing the poverty is the breakdown of the family unit. Stats show you can reduce poverty by staying with the woman you impregnate |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 7:12pm On May 10 |
benalvino3:It is a fact that whites own 72% of the land owned by individuals. Do you consider this justifiable. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 7:13pm On May 10 |
raumdeuter:Seventy years ago they had less capacity to do anything, don't be silly. What you are saying is like saying that people locked up in prisons commit less crime. Nonsensical. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 7:15pm On May 10 |
DeepSight:Farm land. Continue to lie to yourself. There are plenty of lands in the country. Anyone can start a farm if they could. They tried and it failed. Its why that kid in the video I posted here debating that woman said if they give black people reparations, it still won't solve the problems. Zimbabwe did it and it failed as well. Let the government take all the land that are not allocated and allocate it to SA Zulus so they will leave Nigerians and other Africans alone. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 7:17pm On May 10 |
benalvino3:It's actually individually owned land. The question is if it is justifiable. Answer. I also asked if you have any problem with apartheid. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 7:21pm On May 10 |
DeepSight:It is. But nice to see you admit that. But it is the farm lands, be specific. There are lands everywhere Blacks rule the nation They should make use of those lands. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 7:22pm On May 10 |
DeepSight:Why will they be likely to commit less crimes 70yrs ago when they were actually poorer They were poorer 70yrs ago but commit less crime |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 7:27pm On May 10 |
benalvino3:No, you fail to recognize that over forty percent of the land is owned by corporations and it's not easy to determine the individuals who are the beneficial owners of this, but in a white dominated economy, the answer is clear. Also about 23 percent only is govt owned and it is used. Why do you say it is justifiable. I need to beat you up for saying that. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 7:28pm On May 10 |
raumdeuter:It's impossible. Absolutely impossible for anyone to be this daft. Why not ask why a poor prisoner is not commuting crime on the streets. He is in bondage, genius. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 7:36pm On May 10*. Modified: 8:32pm On May 10 |
DeepSight:saying apartheid was wrong does not mean every policy done in the name of equalisation is automatically right. your land figure still needs context. The 2017 South African Land Audit says whites owned 72% of farms and agricultural holdings owned by individual landowners. Africa Check explains that this white-owned individual farm/agricultural land is about 26.7 million hectares, or roughly 22% of South Africa’s total land area Which is ar cry from your figure. now admitting the issue is more complicated because companies, trusts, government, and communal land are involved. So stop using the simplified whites own 72% of the land lie as if it explains everything. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GracieX3(f): 7:37pm On May 10 |
Raumdeuter, Benalvino3, Bemeruca. The excuse you guys have is that white children go to college more. There are more white people But you are missing the fact that college is expensive. The issue here is classism on the basis of income. Many white people in the US are saddled with student debt. Classism in America is steeped in race. Black people have been disenfranchised from income since slavery. Do you agree? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GracieX3(f): 7:39pm On May 10 |
benalvino3:Are you seeing the legacy of apartheid? So whites own 72% of farms by your own figures? Damn |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 7:41pm On May 10 |
DeepSight:The people were not locked up. They could have been killing themselves because they are poor. But they do not because they have a family structure which set the kids right. The more the family broke down, the more crime became |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 7:42pm On May 10 |
benalvino3:What ever the figure it is VASTLY inequitable and you know it so why would you say it is justifiable? You need to be beaten up. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSightZ: 7:46pm On May 10 |
raumdeuter:It's impossible. No one can be this daft. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSightZ: 7:47pm On May 10 |
GracieX3:And he says it is justifiable. Benalvino3 thus is telling us that apartheid was okay. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 7:49pm On May 10 |
GracieX3:Where there is more people represented they will also be likely to commit more crimes If it happens in a place that white are more the crimes will likely be committed by white same as with every subgroup Canvas was hacked recently if I am to guess it Will likely be white guys. College shooting its likely to be white guys |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 7:50pm On May 10 |
DeepSightZ:Are you shocked you were this daft and schooled repeatedly within a few hours |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 7:51pm On May 10 |
DeepSight:Black people control the country, they have more land. The government should give them land till that small figure you said is not equitable becomes even a smaller percent. What is stopping them? Their eyes are on the land the white people own while there are plenty of land not appropriated to anyone. You are not arguing land reform anymore. You are arguing racial revenge. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSightZ: 7:53pm On May 10 |
raumdeuter:Unbelievable. A person goes to a time when blacks had no rights and celebrates alleged lower crime as being the result of better family ethics when they were caged. Amazing. Raumdeuter, go to your room and enter the cupboard right now. Remain there till dawn. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSightZ: 7:55pm On May 10 |
benalvino3:What is this. Is this madness or illness or what? Are you nuts? |
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