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kayjordan:
A dog can preach - guess what, If a dog calls a girl you love so much with a "bark" , it's preaching to her what he wants to practise with her.

So dog dey toast girl? Kai, suffering is not good

Look at your world like a crate of eggs - if 15 eggs are spoilt, the other 15 eggs will spoil eventually.

You are living in an illusion of a perfect world - and you're not accepting the "fact" that you live in "Sin City".

In this life, whether you like it or not, you will compete for resources with "what you have" and "where you are".

I'm bringing to your notice a world that doesn't care, and I'm reminding you why you must continue to fight in this world regardless of your limited beliefs or outstanding beliefs.

If the expectation of the world is PERFECTION then why does everyone have a purpose? What's everyone here to solve in a "Perfect World"?

Why do we have Police men, Pastors and Lawyers?


No one is disputing "doing right" but acknowledge "Wrong" as well. This doesn't make you less reasonable, but a man with a spare tire (Plan B) if you want to survive.

MaxInDHouse:
So you consider yourself an animal not capable of reasoning or you just want to kill your conscience?

Because you don't want what is evil for yourself but feels it's normal for others.


Well right thinking humans wants what is good for everyone!🙂

You don't understand nature i can see that false religions has made you feel so bad about God and you want to turn to science but my friend the Bible knows much more about science than all your teachers.

Meanwhile God is not against nature as you erroneously concluded rather God is teaching us how to reconcile with nature!

kayjordan:
Look at your world like a crate of eggs - if 15 eggs are spoilt, the other 15 eggs will spoil eventually. You are living in an illusion of a perfect world - and you're not accepting the "fact" that you live in "Sin City". In this life, whether you like it or not, you will compete for resources with "what you have" and "where you are". I'm bringing to your notice a world that doesn't care, and I'm reminding you why you must continue to fight in this world regardless of your limited beliefs or outstanding beliefs.
If the expectation of the world is PERFECTION then why does everyone have a purpose? What's everyone here to solve in a "Perfect World"? Why do we have Police men, Pastors and Lawyers? No one is disputing "doing right" but acknowledge "Wrong" as well. This doesn't make you less reasonable, but a man with a spare tire (Plan B) if you want to survive.

America is better than Nigeria - (Sealed)

Poor people have problems weighing America against Nigeria because of lack of proper education - (Sealed)

Sensitive people who felt the last jab are reflecting their current pains on others but unfortunately, it bounced back to them due to an already activated auto-pilot - (since it's Sealed PERMANENTLY already - it's hereby GLUED)


End of Discussion!!!

Dtruthspeaker:
Chai poor people. Always thinking that America is better.

Anyway, if Nigeria is hel foru, then it is clear that your destiny to the real helu is sealed, hence we understand where all this is coming from

Your auto-pilot is everywhere.

But let me still address your light note:

Suffering has no direct correlation with not reading well - rather "poor reading glasses" or "poor education" have a direct correlation with not reading well".

Let wisdom guide your writing; not your pride or disappointment.

Dtruthspeaker:
When people are suffering they do not read well

It's possible in a frivolous conversation like this.

Dtruthspeaker:
So dog dey toast girl? Kai, suffering is not good

You probably missed my point - I concluded that God appreciates nature and uses it to draw the line between good and bad.

It could be correct that God knows better than science - we can't prove that - only your imagination can.

Religion indeed makes me doubt God because all religions don't speak one language.

Science has universal knowledge that everyone accepts. It's taught in schools and it has solved more problems than religion have ever solved.

How is God reconciling us with nature? People do that themselves.

MaxInDHouse:
You don't understand nature i can see that false religions has made you feel so bad about God and you want to turn to science but my friend the Bible knows much more about science than all your teachers.

Meanwhile God is not against nature as you erroneously concluded rather God is teaching us how to reconcile with nature!

kayjordan:
You probably missed my point - I concluded that God appreciates nature and uses it to draw the line between good and bad. It could be correct that God knows better than science - we can't prove that - only your imagination can.

Nature of course taught us that there's nothing that doesn't have a beginning and a cause but then nature doesn't teach us good or bad.
God told us a lot before people gradually found out e.g. the shape of our planet home, gravitational force, water circle just to mention a few.

kayjordan:
Religion indeed makes me doubt God because all religions don't speak one language. Science has universal knowledge that everyone accepts. It's taught in schools and it has solved more problems than religion have ever solved.

All religions can't speak the same language because only one religion is true while the rest are false but when talking about language people globally practicing the only true religion speaks one language!

kayjordan:
How is God reconciling us with nature? People do that themselves.

A diligent study of the Bible shows that that things we see around supports our existence while building and creating things we want is making the planet uninhabitable.

kayjordan:
America is better than Nigeria - (Sealed)

Poor people have problems weighing America against Nigeria because of lack of proper education - (Sealed)

Sensitive people who felt the last jab are reflecting their current pains on others but unfortunately, it bounced back to them due to an already activated auto-pilot - (since it's Sealed PERMANENTLY already - it's hereby GLUED)


End of Discussion!!!

Chai Poorverty is not good. See wetin hin do person.

At the extreme rate you promote Poverty, you should be declared an AMBASSADOR of Poverty and not an Ambassador of Reasoning.

Dtruthspeaker:
Chai Poorverty is not good. See wetin hin do person.

Indeed! God said alot about nature and mankind but the effort of scientists brought clarity.

Your submission on "one religion is right and ALL are false" is a subjective falsehood.

Practically, a Buddhist would say exactly what you've said - who then do we believe?

Christianity is divided, please note. Religious leaders that want power, independence and money create this division - so Christianity doesn't speak one language.

Yes, nature supports our existence. As natural beings, we have the liberty to create and build what we want (Good or Bad).

There's nothing we do "Good" or "Bad" that doesn't have Advantages or Disadvantages.

Example:
*If your nature tells you to eat alot - it will feel "Good" and also give you a "stomach ache".

*If your God asks you to pray and fast - it will make you "feel hopeful" and likely give you an "ulcer".

Humans since 1,000 years ago have been trying to understand this world by experimenting with different ideas such (religion, science) - and they attempt to use these ideas to make their world "perfect" - but to no avail.

That's why religion is still struggling; that's why science hasn't found all answers yet - because the human nature is "bigger" than either of these ideas.

Humans will remain unpredictable - nature will remain unpredictable (Tsunami, Hurricane).

You are on earth to "survive" and manage, not to change or fix the unfixable.

MaxInDHouse:
Nature of course taught us that there's nothing that doesn't have a beginning and a cause but then nature doesn't teach us good or bad.
God told us a lot before people gradually found out e.g. the shape of our planet home, gravitational force, water circle just to mention a few.


All religions can't speak the same language because only one religion is true while the rest are false but when talking about language people globally practicing the only true religion speaks one language!


A diligent study of the Bible shows that that things we see around supports our existence while building and creating things we want is making the planet uninhabitable.

kayjordan:
Your submission on "one religion is right and ALL are false" is a subjective falsehood.

This is where science failed woefully because science simply means what people discovered not what a teacher taught humans.

So if you study science you can only have limited knowledge about nature but if you study religion you will know a lot more about life and what affects us all only through the true religion.

Why do people spend billions yearly to produce destructive weapons just to kill their neighbors?

What has science been doing to enlighten people on this serious matter?

Well that is the purpose of religion and only the true religion can adequately answer these two questions!🙂

Interesting!

The fact that you think your religion "Christianity" is the best or default religion and someone from Islam thinks otherwise - is the "primary" reason why there will be problems in this world; it's also the reason why nature will always win.

"Everybody wants to impose their ideals; nobody wants to be imposed on - yet they all think their religion is to help the world instead"

Contrary to what you've said about science, please note that science is "still" a teacher - the same way the Bible teaches.

Science has disadvantages (the nuclear weapon you mentioned) and it has advantages (Healthcare, technology).

God of Christianity who's law states "Thou shall not kill", has killed many - yet the Christianity religion is here to help?

For clarity, please note that God (as believed) created humans and universe - and he made the world a "ball of challenges". Your God doesn't intend to make your world better - he sees your world as an "Examination Center" and not as a destination - for destination is "Heaven".

God expects you to believe the earth has been condemned by Adam and Eve - he wants you to pray for a ticket to heaven and not for a "life-line" on earth (House, money, cars).

The houses, money and cars are the modern day "Apples" planted by God and the devil as "examination questions" to test your qualification for Heaven - to see if you would chase for materialism or salvation - to find out if you would worship him to seek "material things" or for a place in "His Kingdom".

God in question - is responsible for the sins, lies, fornication and greed in this world - He made them all.

He (God) is sustaining sin on earth for his purpose, you as humans are trying to reject it or modify it.

The earth in God's view, is just a rotten hose pipe - Heaven is the Tank (Destination).

Because you're of flesh, you care more about "world peace" than "Heaven".

You pray for things attached to a rotten pipe, than pray for salvation.


For example:

You cry for the return of fuel subsidy and not for the Nigeria that will look like USA in infrastructure.

It's quite similar when you cry to God for all the killings and stealing happening in the world and you don't pray for salvation because you're afraid of dieing or losing your hard earned assets.

The article describes, following a realistic true nature and not a set of limiting doctrines that are harder to adhere to.

The article doesn't admit: a love of sin/nature = "peace" in totality; but what it does admit is "true life".

God didn't create people to "like" one another - he created people to be unique/different for his purpose of the "True Test".

Yet God said "Love your neighbor as yourself " - even when God Almighty knows "it's not possible" - he probably had to tell that lie to test your unique personalities.

God wants to use problems of the world to humble you - so that you may know the difference between heaven and earth - but God's people want to make the earth bearable for themselves - to the extent that they spend most time fixing the world than preparing for eternity.

God indeed is merciful, and ensures His people don't suffer too much on earth - but he doesn't remove the suffering - he only reduces it.

The suffering on earth is largely caused by our personalities, while the rest is caused by natural disasters.

This is why I say: you must accept nature for what it is - "Fire" will never change for "Water" - they both have different properties - If Fire and Water come together, they will clash (spark).

So how can your religion (Water) help the world become a better place when it clashes with other religions (Fire) - then what you seek doesn't exist - only nature.

MaxInDHouse:
This is where science failed woefully because science simply means what people discovered not what a teacher taught humans.

So if you study science you can only have limited knowledge about nature but if you study religion you will know a lot more about life and what affects us all only through the true religion.

Why do people spend billions yearly to produce destructive weapons just to kill their neighbors?

What has science been doing to enlighten people on this serious matter?

Well that is the purpose of religion and only the true religion can adequately answer these two questions!🙂

Exactly what i've been saying!

All what you said here are things false religions taught you not true religion!

Let me shock you:

Christianity was never meant to be imposed rather we are PREACHING perhaps you don't know the meaning of that word it's tantamount to PLEADING. So we don't shout in buses or in your streets we speak with people one on one.

Science never taught anything people only discover things after lots of trial and error so it can't be called a teacher.

God doesn't kill rather evildoers are the people killing themselves God has never killed anyone if you want to go by logical reasoning.

Humans have no business going to heaven earth is our permanent home.

Things humans discovered weren't meant to be sold rather used for the benefit of one and all.

Whatever is happening now is the work of Satan and those who followed his footsteps not God.

I can go on and on so please nothing you say here is caused by God if you are truly sincere!🙂

kayjordan:
Interesting!
The fact that you think your religion "Christianity" is the best or default religion and someone from Islam thinks otherwise - is the "primary" reason why there will be problems in this world; it's also the reason why nature will always win.
"Everybody wants to impose their ideals; nobody wants to be imposed on - yet they all think their religion is to help the world instead"
Contrary to what you've said about science, please note that science is "still" a teacher - the same way the Bible teaches.
Science has disadvantages (the nuclear weapon you mentioned) and it has advantages (Healthcare, technology).
God of Christianity who's law states "Thou shall not kill", has killed many - yet the Christianity religion is here to help?
For clarity, please note that God (as believed) created humans and universe - and he made the world a "ball of challenges". Your God doesn't intend to make your world better - he sees your world as an "Examination Center" and not as a destination - for destination is "Heaven".
God expects you to believe the earth has been condemned by Adam and Eve - he wants you to pray for a ticket to heaven and not for a "life-line" on earth (House, money, cars).
The houses, money and cars are the modern day "Apples" planted by God and the devil as "examination questions" to test your qualification for Heaven - to see if you would chase for materialism or salvation - to find out if you would worship him to seek "material things" or for a place in "His Kingdom".
God in question - is responsible for the sins, lies, fornication and greed in this world - He made them all.
He (God) is sustaining sin on earth for his purpose, you as humans are trying to reject it or modify it.
The earth in God's view, is just a rotten hose pipe - Heaven is the Tank (Destination).
Because you're of flesh, you care more about "world peace" than "Heaven".
You pray for things attached to a rotten pipe, than pray for salvation.
For example:
You cry for the return of fuel subsidy and not for the Nigeria that will look like USA in infrastructure.
It's quite similar when you cry to God for all the killings and stealing happening in the world and you don't pray for salvation because you're afraid of dieing or losing your hard earned assets.
The article describes, following a realistic true nature and not a set of limiting doctrines that are harder to adhere to.
The article doesn't admit: a love of sin/nature = "peace" in totality; but what it does admit is "true life".
God didn't create people to "like" one another - he created people to be unique/different for his purpose of the "True Test".
Yet God said "Love your neighbor as yourself " - even when God Almighty knows "it's not possible" - he probably had to tell that lie to test your unique personalities.
God wants to use problems of the world to humble you - so that you may know the difference between heaven and earth - but God's people want to make the earth bearable for themselves - to the extent that they spend most time fixing the world than preparing for eternity.
God indeed is merciful, and ensures His people don't suffer too much on earth - but he doesn't remove the suffering - he only reduces it.
The suffering on earth is largely caused by our personalities, while the rest is caused by natural disasters.
This is why I say: you must accept nature for what it is - "Fire" will never change for "Water" - they both have different properties - If Fire and Water come together, they will clash (spark).
So how can your religion (Water) help the world become a better place when it clashes with other religions (Fire) - then what you seek doesn't exist - only nature.

Hmm!

God in the first place, is an unverified "spirit" which Atheist call a "concept".

My entire narration of God was to explain the subject-matter - not that I'm convinced of His existence.

To the point:

One: No religion taught me about religious wars - the news I read informed me about this.

You say Christianity is pleading/preaching - but in typical Lagos, I see "shouting". I guess, many Christians have their style of passing God's message.

Science is the study of the physical environment - while it's true that nature preceeds scientific study - it doesn't change the fact that the "study" teaches.

What you claim people discovered before the introduction of pure science is called "Traditional Science".

Before the enlightenment period, these discoveries were all the people had, till science as a body became fully developed to advance these traditional practises.

Modern Science which is the advancement of traditional science, is what we call physics, chemistry, biology which is being taught in schools today.

So what people discovered was the "traditional science" - and what we're taught today is the advancement of that traditional science.

The spirit "God" in the Bible was documented to have "Created a flood to kill unbelievers during the Noah's Ark period" - and also God was documented to have "Killed all male children in Egypt during the period of Pharaoh and Moses".

So if God is guilty of these, does it make him an "Evil Doer" or "Good God"?

If you meant the "Human body" have no business going to heaven - and their business is here on earth, then that's justified - but if you meant both "body" and "soul" have no business in heaven, but only on earth - then you practice a different type of Christianity that obviously doesn't speak the same language as the other denominations.

Scientific knowledge is sold because it's a transactional world. The genenis story in the bible state that man will "never" work - but when man sinned, he had no other choice than to work.

Therfore, all resources of the earth meant to help mankind for "free" is forbidden thereafter, for man will pay or work for anything on earth be it a food, clothing or shelter.

However, there's a spiritual belief called "Humanism" that doesn't believe in a god, but believes in using resources of the earth to help mankind.

You're obviously not a Humanist - if I'm correct.

The work of Satan is the work of God. There's a deliberate collaboration between both spiritual beings - especially in the story of Job and Jesus Christ where both biblical character's nature were tested.

So if the devil is the author of evil - who or what is the beginning of the devil?

PLEASE ANSWER

MaxInDHouse:
Exactly what i've been saying!

All what you said here are things false religions taught you not true religion!

Let me shock you:

Christianity was never meant to be imposed rather we are PREACHING perhaps you don't know the meaning of that word it's tantamount to PLEADING. So we don't shout in buses or in your streets we speak with people one om one.

Science never taught anything people only discover things after lots of trial and error so it can't be called a teacher.

God doesn't kill rather evildoers are the people killing themselves God has never killed anyone if you want to go by logical reasoning.

Humans have no business going to heaven earth is our permanent home.

Things humans discovered weren't meant to be sold rather used for the benefit of one and all.

Whatever is happening now is the work of Satan and those who followed his footsteps not God.

I can go on and on so please nothing you say here is caused by God if you are truly sincere!🙂

Please let your post be precise so i can see your question or better still let me have only your question!

kayjordan:
Hmm!

God in the first place, is an unverified "spirit" which Atheist call a "concept".

My entire narration of God was to explain the subject-matter - not that I'm convinced of His existence.

To the point:

One: No religion taught me about religious wars - the news I read informed me about this.

You say Christianity is pleading/preaching - but in typical Lagos, I see "shouting". I guess, many Christians have their style of passing God's message.

Science is the study of the physical environment - while it's true that nature preceeds scientific study - it doesn't change the fact that the "study" teaches.

What you claim people discovered before the introduction of pure science is called "Traditional Science".

Before the enlightenment period, these discoveries were all the people had, till science as a body became fully developed to advance these traditional practises.

Modern Science which is the advancement of traditional science, is what we call physics, chemistry, biology which is being taught in schools today.

So what people discovered was the "traditional science" - and what we're taught today is the advancement of that traditional science.

The spirit "God" in the Bible was documented to have "Created a flood to kill unbelievers during the Noah's Ark period" - and also God was documented to have "Killed all male children in Egypt during the period of Pharaoh and Moses".

So if God is guilty of these, does it make him an "Evil Doer" or "Good God"?

If you meant the "Human body" have no business going to heaven - and their business is here on earth, then that's justified - but if you meant both "body" and "soul" have no business in heaven, but only on earth - then you practice a different type of Christianity that obviously doesn't speak the same language as the other denominations.

Scientific knowledge is sold because it's a transactional world. The genenis story in the bible state that man will "never" work - but when man sinned, he had no other choice than to work.

Therfore, all resources of the earth meant to help mankind for "free" is forbidden thereafter, for man will pay or work for anything on earth be it a food, clothing or shelter.

However, there's a spiritual belief called "Humanism" that doesn't believe in a god, but believes in using resources of the earth to help mankind.

You're obviously not a Humanist - if I'm correct.

The work of Satan is the work of God. There's a deliberate collaboration between both spiritual beings - especially in the story of Job and Jesus Christ where both biblical character's nature were tested.

So if the devil is the author of evil - who or what is the beginning of the devil?

PLEASE ANSWER

Okay, for the sake of brief comments.

Who or what is the beginning of the Devil?

MaxInDHouse:
Please let your post be precise so i can see your question or better still let me have only your question!

kayjordan:
Okay, for the sake of brief comments.
Who or what is the beginning of the Devil?

The desire to dominate fellow intelligent beings!

So who created the "desire" to dominate fellow intelligent beings?

And who are these "intelligent beings"?

MaxInDHouse:
The desire to dominate fellow intelligent beings!

The ungrateful intelligent beings are among angels and humans!

They weren't created like that rather they developed it due to their improper thoughts!

kayjordan:
So who created the "desire" to dominate fellow intelligent beings?
And who are these "intelligent beings"?

Interesting!!!!

You're implying "Lucifer".

So, since "Lucifer" (if correct), developed his own thoughts - then who opened his eyes/thoughts just as he opened Eve's eyes?

MaxInDHouse:
The ungrateful intelligent beings are among angels and humans!

They weren't created like that rather they developed it due to their improper thoughts!

kayjordan:
Interesting!!!!
You're implying "Lucifer".
So, since "Lucifer" (if correct), developed his own thoughts - then who opened his eyes/thoughts just as he opened Eve's eyes?

Don't quote any book now otherwise you will continue to misapply what the Bible says based on what false religions have spread.

The name of the spirit who first showed this trait wasn't mentioned in the Bible people translated what the Bible called him to Lucifer but he was called "Shining One" due to his unique way of doing things among other angels who were all called "Morning Stars"

Angels are spirit children of God while humans are fleshy children of God the ingrates were found among angels and among humans nobody opened the eyes of anyone rather ingrates are unleashed to do what they already developed in their minds.

So when the Bible says the eyes of Adam and Eve were opened it's an irony they were given the freedom to go and do whatever pleases them but then they should know that God has removed their names from those who will live forever because they will die and there is no resurrection for them!

Christianity is controversial in this context.

Your interpretation is different from the basic interpretation which further creates various meanings.


To fix this up:

Example: If Microsoft Corporation created Microsoft Computers, then who created the operating software for them? ..... is it the Software itself??

Please Answer.

MaxInDHouse:
Don't quote any book now otherwise you will continue to misapply what the Bible says based on what false religions have spread.

The name of the spirit who first showed this trait wasn't mentioned in the Bible people translated what the Bible called him to Lucifer but he was called "Shining One" due to his unique way of doing things among other angels who were all called "Morning Stars"

Angels are spirit children of God while humans are fleshy children of God the ingrates were found among angels and among humans nobody opened the eyes of anyone rather ingrates are unleashed to do what they already developed in their minds.

So when the Bible says the eyes of Adam and Eve were opened it's an irony they were given the freedom to go and do whatever pleases them but then they should know that God has removed their names from those who will live forever because they will die and there is no resurrection for them!

kayjordan:
Christianity is controversial in this context. Your interpretation is different from the basic interpretation which further creates various meanings.

I already told you that there is only one true religion whereas thousands false religions using different faces are out there and many of them are claiming CHRISTIANS. So it's time to know what the only true religion teaches!

kayjordan:
To fix this up:
Example: If Microsoft Corporation created Microsoft Computers, then who created the operating software for them? ..... is it the Software itself??
Please Answer.

Intelligent creatures are not computers unlike computers that has been programmed each intelligent creature have his or her own mind which can't be channeled towards what they don't want they will never do it well.

The solution to the false religion argument lye only in your hands. Only you can explain.

You defend humans can't be likened to computers...

So, basically you imagine or predict that human thinking is bourne out of nothing - or you actually mean human thoughts are triggered by their environment - rendering both God and the Devil innocent.

Is that correct?

MaxInDHouse:
I already told you that there is only one true religion whereas thousands false religions using different faces are out there and many of them are claiming CHRISTIANS. So it's time to know what the only true religion teaches!



Intelligent creatures are not computers unlike computers that has been programmed each intelligent creature have his or her own mind which can't be channeled towards what they don't want they will never do it well.

@ Kayjordan
Now you see the difference between the true religion and false religions giving contradicting teachings. The true religion will make you feel the need to think straight not open to contradicting opinions. Matthew 7:28-29

Please whatever you have heard from me is written in the Bible but hidden from false religionists because though intellectuals they are but Satan's agents {Matthew 11:25} and for your information this message has gone round the world for a purpose:

To gather right thinking humans and make them one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers {Isaiah 2:20-4; Micah 4:1-3} in fact the group name Christians that Satan's agents polluted is what you know but the true God has given us another group name today! Isaiah 65:15

kayjordan:
The solution to the false religion argument lye only in your hands. Only you can explain.

My guy there are millions of my fellow worshipers throughout the world that will tell you the same thing so i'm not alone in this!🙂

kayjordan:
You defend humans can't be likened to computers...
So, basically you imagine or predict that human thinking is bourne out of nothing - or you actually mean human thoughts are triggered by their environment - rendering both God and the Devil innocent. Is that correct?

Please don't drag us back!😟
I told you that the evil in the world today was born out of desire to dominate fellow intelligent beings.
Satan would have been innocent if not that he is the first creature who showed that trait and continued doing whatever pleases him even when it will affect others badly that is why he is not innocent. Humans doing the same became his agents because he set the pace for them.
God is the only innocent person here as the Creator who wants the best for us He keep warning us not to follow the traits that could lead us astray. Isaiah 48:17-18

Regarding intelligent beings who have developed that evil trait the Bible said:


They are the ones who have acted corruptly. They are not his (God's) children, the defect is their own. They are a crooked and twisted generation. ‭Deuteronomy 32:5 NIV‬

Hmm!

One can't think straight with "one" book and with "many" teachers - how many teachers are like "you" in Christianity to fulfill this purpose.

If I read all your Bible verses (which I will), I'll most likely re-interpret them based on my understanding.

Also, how can Bible scriptures be hidden from false Religionists when it's visible in the bible?

If I may ask, what's the new group name your Christianity has created?

Does this mean your new group has a long way to go? Because this sounds more like a revolution than an "existing religion".

MaxInDHouse:
@ Kayjordan
Now you see the difference between the true religion and false religions giving contradicting teachings. The true religion will make you feel the need to think straight not open to contradicting opinions. Matthew 7:28-29

Please whatever you have heard from me is written in the Bible but hidden from false religionists because though intellectuals they are but Satan's agents {Matthew 11:25} and for your information this message has gone round the world for a purpose:

To gather right thinking humans and make them one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers {Isaiah 2:20-4; Micah 4:1-3} in fact the group name Christians that Satan's agents polluted is what you know but the true God has given us another group name today! Isaiah 65:15

Based on your last bible verse:

"They are the ones who have acted corruptly. They are not his (God's) children, the defect is their own. They are a crooked and twisted generation. ‭Deuteronomy 32:5 NIV‬"


If I may argue: If corrupt persons are not God's children, is it that: the "act" itself is not of God's creation - or the "children" are not of God's physical creation?

If the "act" is not of God and rather, is a creation of man himself, then man can defend that he (man) created himself - and no God created him.

Therefore man have the moral ground to dissociate from God - and God have no moral ground to destroy them nor impose Himself on them for He doesn't own them.

For you have mentioned, Christianity pleads...

MaxInDHouse:
My guy there are millions of my fellow worshipers throughout the world that will tell you the same thing so i'm not alone in this!🙂


Please don't drag us back!😟
I told you that the evil in the world today was born out of desire to dominate fellow intelligent beings.
Satan would have been innocent if not that he is the first creature who showed that trait and continued doing whatever pleases him even when it will affect others badly that is why he is not innocent. Humans doing the same became his agents because he set the pace for them.
God is the only innocent person here as the Creator who wants the best for us He keep warning us not to follow the traits that could lead us astray. Isaiah 48:17-18

Regarding intelligent beings who have developed that evil trait the Bible said:


They are the ones who have acted corruptly. They are not his (God's) children, the defect is their own. They are a crooked and twisted generation. ‭Deuteronomy 32:5 NIV‬

kayjordan:
Hell is what you are experiencing now.

The fact you're in this world - that's hell, the fact that you are a born Nigerian and not a born American - that's probably even more hell.


So practically, you're being permanently bookmarked for Hell already.

You are right but not everyone is experiencing it here in Nigeria.

But there's a world underneath called hell where lost souls go to. The toughest situations in Nigeria is like heaven when compared to hell. Its real. Please, avoid it. And the way to avoid it is to accept the free gift of salvation that is in Christ alone.

kayjordan:
Hmm!
One can't think straight with "one" book and with "many" teachers - how many teachers are like "you" in Christianity to fulfill this purpose.
If I read all your Bible verses (which I will), I'll most likely re-interpret them based on my understanding.

I told you we are almost 9 million and we are in all nations throughout the world, of course if you read the same Bible verses you will interpret it like all other religions who have failed to make good use of God's word that's why we have those sent by Jesus to teach us the meaning of these scriptures. Matthew 28:19-20

kayjordan:
Also, how can Bible scriptures be hidden from false Religionists when it's visible in the bible? If I may ask, what's the new group name your Christianity has created?

Majority of people are greedy and selfish such motive will blind them since it's only meant for people who love their neighbors as themselves.
The new group name is "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" {Isaiah 65:15} all the words Jesus foretold about his group are fulfilled in our midst today.

kayjordan:
Does this mean your new group has a long way to go? Because this sounds more like a revolution than an "existing religion".

Original Christianity was established by Jesus in the first century but shortlived due to attacks from Satan and his agents {Revelation 11:7} but the Bible was preserved through the ages until America declared freedom of speech, expression and worship. In the dark ages Satan's agents rendered people blind spiritually with human traditions they are worshiping Jesus not the true God and they continued to complicate issues for themselves {Matthew 15:7-9} but true Christians must love their neighbors as themselves {Mark 12:31} and people everywhere will notice that they have genuine love among themselves! John 13:34-35

kayjordan:
Based on your last bible verse:
"They are the ones who have acted corruptly. They are not his (God's) children, the defect is their own. They are a crooked and twisted generation. ‭Deuteronomy 32:5 NIV‬"
If I may argue: If corrupt persons are not God's children, is it that: the "act" itself is not of God's creation - or the "children" are not of God's physical creation?

They are God's creation but developed that evil trait due to selfish desires.

kayjordan:
If the "act" is not of God and rather, is a creation of man himself, then man can defend that he (man) created himself - and no God created him.
Therefore man have the moral ground to dissociate from God - and God have no moral ground to destroy them nor impose Himself on them for He doesn't own them.

I love the way you are thinking now in fact that is what the Bible teach. God has no moral justification to destroy these humans since he claims they are not his children but the planet earth belongs to Him {Psalms 24:1} and He created it for peace loving people to inherit that is why He waited until those having His own attributes sufficed {Psalms 24:3-4}, they will serve as His moral justification to destroy evil people because He created the planet for such people not those who can't cohabit peacefully! Matthew 25:34
Today billions are fighting and killing their neighbors despite claiming they believe in God {Revelation 6:3-4} but if they truly believe in God they supposed to act in line with their beliefs {2Timothy 3:5} since God promised to judge evildoers! Psalms 37:7-11
So their actions speaks louder than their words {Matthew 7:16-18} they don't truly believe in God! Hebrews 11:6

kayjordan:
For you have mentioned, Christianity pleads...

YES! We plead to all kinds of people so we can find those whose hearts are pure but are now doing whatever it takes just to survive. Many of such ones are into bad habits but deep down in their hearts they are not like that it's the world around them that's molding them! 1Corinthans 6:9-11