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cococandy:
We need to check the hard drives of the 36 republican law makers who voted no.

No, tell me this is fiction. Please I beg you.

DeepSight:
According to them in the sixties even though he will pretend that the nineties are not after the sixties.

Also he will insist that things were better for blacks in those sixties than even today when there is supposedly no systemic racism at all.

LoLz. I dunno how people tie themselves into illogical mental pretzels to defend nonsense.

GracieX3:
Lol......
1. apartheid lasted 42 years (1948 to 1990) far longer than the 30 years that you expect free blacks to do miracles.

2. The effects of apartheid are still felt today. Just imagine the fact that whites own 72% of individually owned farmland.

3. Even the world bank points out the income disparity amongst racial lines. This is a legacy of segregation.


As usual, you expect blacks to excell in hardship and never blame whites for their enjoyment of blood money.

I don't know what to say to them. They literally expect black people to succeed in a vacuum, by that I mean, as though they exist in a state where nothing affects their present tense from the past. As though they were just dropped from heaven in 1994 without any baggage, without any massive economic and social disadvantage and bias, without any educational, housing bias and expected to succeed immediately even when it took centuries for those they compare them with to achieve what they did.

In the life of a nation thirty years is tiny. Even Nigeria which we condemn so much has had 66 years and that is still tiny in relative terms. Every nation MUST fight its internal contradictions and even itself out psychologically to assert a sense of peaceful identity before it can meaningfully develop. This is a process that took European nations many centuries. In Africa with the forced unity and divisions bestowed by colonialism we are expected to magically arrive at that place of peaceful and patriotic identity overnight and copy and paste the progress which took the west centuries of blood and rage.

Of course human societies don't work that way, they are not a sheet of paper which can be photocopied, they are living, energetic things with a psychology, with emotions, with biases, with needs of every kind and even with insecurities and weaknesses of course. And when we state the obvious that such requires time to mature, we are badly misquoted by someone like TV01 as saying that it will take forever, and saying that blacks cannot develop of their own or make an effort or be responsible.

Overall what is most telling in this matter is that consistently, they make excuses for the worst atrocities of white people and jump down on even the most basic and normal facts concerning black people.

It is sheer madness not to know that a traumatized society like black South Africa would require serious time to even out its contradictions and assert itself into growth and development at an even pace.

What sane adult will claim not to know that?

I'd consider this as a form of reparations.
Once university staffers get to decide who enrols as a result of their racially acquired Ivy league certificates ,it will take momentous efforts to get rid of the practice.


https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-investigation-determines-yales-medical-school-discriminated-based-race


Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division has completed a year-long investigation into the admissions policies and practices at the Yale School of Medicine.

Yale’s documents show that its leadership intentionally selected applicants based on their race. Yale’s documents reveal that they studied how to use racial proxies to circumvent the Supreme Court’s prohibition on using race to select students. Yale’s admissions data demonstrate that Black and Hispanic students have a much higher chance of admission to Yale than White or Asian students with the same test scores.

“Yale has continued its race-based admissions program despite the Supreme Court and the public’s clear mandate for reform.” said Assistant Attorney General Harmeet K. Dhillon of the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division

Korea didn't take 30 years to radically develop their country.

DeepSight:
I don't know what to say to them. They literally expect black people to succeed in a vacuum, by that I mean, as though they exist in a state where nothing affects their presents tense from the past. As though they were just dropped from heaven in 1994 without any baggage, without any massive economic and social disadvantage and bias, without any educational, housing bias and expected to succeed immediately even when it took centuries for those they compare them with to achieve what they did.

In the life of a nation thirty years is tiny. Even Nigeria which we condemn so much has had 66 years and that is still tiny in relative terms. Every nation MUST fight it's internal contradictions and even itself out psychology to assert a sense of peaceful identity before it can meaningfully develop. This is a process that took European nations many centuries. In Africa with the forced unities and divisions bestowed by colonialism we are expected to magically arrive at that place of peaceful and patriotic identify over night and copy and paste the progress which took the west centuries of blood.

Of course human societies don't work that way, they are not a sheet of paper which can be photocopied, they are living, energetic things with a psychology with emotions, with biases, with needs of every kind and even with insecurities and weaknesses of course. And when we state the obvious that such requires time to mature, we are badly misquoted as saying that it will take forever, and saying that blacks cannot develop of their own or make and effort or be responsible.

Overall what is most telling in this matter is that consistently, they make excuses for the worst atrocities of white people and jump down on even the most basic and normal facts concerning black people.

It is sheer madness not to know that a traumatized society like black south Africa would require serious time to even out its contradictions and assert itself into growth and development at an event pace.

What sane adult will claim not to know that?

basilico:
Korea didn't take 30 years to radically develop their country.

Apples for apples. Korea didn't have a majority society broken by apartheid. It is literally a small homogenous place

And even then, what about North Korea?

The way people make comparisons are just shocking. Every day I see people use Singapore as an example against Nigeria for example. Singapore is literally one city. Nigeria is a nation cobbled together from over three hundred distinct ethnic groups of very disparate world views.

GracieX3:
You are talking all over the place. The simple point is that Kemi Badenoch is a clown in her own party. No one likes her

How did she become the leader of the party? .

I may be wrong .
Democrats want to ban marriages in total before 18.
We know a lot of teens get children before 18. What happens in such cases. Democrats provide them with abortion options , govt funded abortions.
I may mention religious cultures that betroth their children when young.
Strictly what would encourage paedophilia. Abortions or bans in under 18 marriages.
There are those who insist on their 17 year olds who are already sexually active to get married instead of aborting. Many democrats and republican children are sexually active by 18 , especially those with absentee parents.

Personally I would never let my children get married before at least 20 years. I have said it , reluctantly I would raise any child they bring home, Let's face it , .It's a problem no parent wants to face at all .
I think it's a stretch calling those who voted no paedophiles.

cococandy:
We need to check the hard drives of the 36 republican law makers who voted no.

cococandy:
The call is coming from inside the swap.

The same swamp they claimed to want to drain.

Lemme guess, he has presidential immunity. SMH.

benalvino3:
How did she become the leader of the party? .

Lots of resignations and the failure of the conservative party

GracieX3:
Lots of resignations and the failure of the conservative party

What are all the people who hate her at her party doing?

Those white people don't hate her as much as you do.

North Korea trajectory is unlike any other country in modern history The founder is a deity,his son is a deity and the present grandson one is the holy priest.

A contradiction. If a homogeneous society is more likely to develop than one which is not. Why then do you support immigration?

The Uber wealthy in the society ,this is my theory. All get their wealth from the poor downtrodden in the society. Manufactured goods are consumed by the majority of the population. You can extrapolate this to luxury goods. Make money selling Lamborghinis ,your buyers sell indomie, rice ,sugar and toothpaste.

If the white South Africa produce everything, majority of their customers are the black . That's the area govt needs to look at. The mass population is the economic driver.
South Africans have a higher income per Capita than the rest of Africa, they found systems and structures in place . Are they destroying these systems. For example the judiciary.
There is absolutely no reason black owned businesses and should not be doing well.
A penny for your thoughts.

DeepSight:
Apples for apples. Korea didn't have a majority society broken by apartheid. It is literally a small homogenous place

And even then, what about North Korea?

The way people make comparisons are just shocking. Every day I see people use Singapore as an example against Nigeria for example. Singapore is literally one city. Nigeria is a nation cobbled together from over three hundred distinct ethnic groups of very disparate world views.

basilico:
North Korea trajectory is unlike any other country in modern history The founder is a deity,his son is a deity and the present grandson one is the holy priest.

A contradiction. If a homogeneous society is more likely to develop than one which is not. Why then do you support immigration?

The Uber wealthy in the society ,this is my theory. All get their wealth from the poor downtrodden in the society. Manufactured goods are consumed by the majority of the population. You can extrapolate this to luxury goods. Make money selling Lamborghinis ,your buyers sell indomie, rice ,sugar and toothpaste.

If the white South Africa produce everything, majority of their customers are the black . That's the area govt needs to look at. The mass population is the economic driver.
South Africans have a higher income per Capita than the rest of Africa, they found systems and structures in place . Are they destroying these systems. For example the judiciary.
There is absolutely no reason black owned businesses and should not be doing well.
A penny for your thoughts.

Since you said "a penny for your thoughts" I will seize upon this to propose a treaty with you. A treaty of sober peace and reason. Are you open to such a treaty? If so, then we should make efforts to eschew extremist positions and reason as lucidly and objectively as possible, with the openness and humility of mind to concede to superior argument and that which we do not know, and the willingness to change views and adapt. Is this something you can see yourself doing? If it is, then let us begin to reason together under such a treaty. If you are game, I will propose further terms of such a treaty.

cococandy:
I’ve always known who they are and that’s why I never bought into their lies about “protecting the kids”. When all they wanted was an excuse to harass the rainbow community. Facts after facts keep showing they’re the ones in favor of harming kids

Hmmm.. that’s what the party would be known for after Trump leaves. They think they can get away with supporting one.

DeepSight:
No, tell me this is fiction. Please I beg you.

It is real..

I'm.game.
I have some long held positions that I will not change unless I'm really convinced . The same should apply to you.
Shoot.

DeepSight:
Since you said "a penny for your thoughts" I will seize upon this to propose a treaty with you. A treaty of sober peace and reason. Are you open to such a treaty? If so, then we should make efforts to eschew extremist positions and reason as lucidly and objectively as possible, with the openness and humility of mind to concede to superior argument and that which we do not know, and the willingness to change views and adapt. Is this something you can see yourself doing? If it is, then let us begin to reason together under such a treaty. If you are game, I will propose further terms of such a treaty.

benalvino3:
What are all the people who hate her at her party doing?

Those white people don't hate her as much as you do.

You have nothing to say abeg

GracieX3:
You have nothing to say abeg

But I said it. Everyone hate her but she is their leader.

You hate her more than those white people you claimed are racists

She hates conservatives.

benalvino3:
But I said it. Everyone hate her but she is their leader.

You hate her more than those white people you claimed are racists

Once the left gets into power ...

Kamala just admitted to this out loud https://t.co/sXuEp2faLF pic.twitter.com/akIl3RDUGQ

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) May 15, 2026

basilico:
She hates conservatives.

Or black people who speaks truth

basilico:
I'm.game.
I have some long held positions that I will not change unless I'm really convinced . The same should apply to you.
Shoot.

Now Know ye all men that this TREATY OF SOBER PEACE AND REASON is herewith signed this 15th day of May 2026 Anno Domini.
Wherefore it is agreed as follows.

1. A serious, balanced sober and rational attempt shall be made to convey points of view on general issues under discussion on this thread.

2. Extremist positions shall be avoided

3. Racist posts, race baiting, race triggering insults, shall be avoided

4. A moratorium on adopted entrenched perceptions of one another being expressed in order to aid focus and reasoning.

5. A commitment to honestly answer simple questions rather than deflect or ignore them.

6. Mutual respect and humility.

7. Discussants shall strive to be studious, thoughtful and scholarly in their output.

This Treaty to remain in force for one week only and if not renewed maximum hostilities of the most childish, irrational and belligerent nature shall at once resume ( . . . . )

Who else is amenable to joining this treaty?

benalvino3:
Or black people who speaks truth

And you think you or Kemi speaks the truth?

No worries.

DeepSight:
Now Know ye all men that this TREATY OF SOBER PEACE AND REASON is herewith signed this 15th day of May 2026 Anno Domini.
Wherefore it is agreed as follows.

1. A serious, balanced sober and rational attempt shall be made to convey points of view on general issues under discussion on this thread.

2. Extremist positions shall be avoided

3. Racist posts, race baiting, race triggering insults, shall be avoided

4. A moratorium on adopted entrenched perceptions of one another being expressed in order to aid focus and reasoning.

5. A commitment to honestly answer simple questions rather than deflect or ignore them.

6. Mutual respect and humility.

7. Discussants shall strive to be studious, thoughtful and scholarly in their output.

This Treaty to remain in force for one week only and if not renewed maximum hostilities of the most childish, irrational and belligerent nature shall at once resume ( . . . . )

Who else is amenable to joining this treaty?

basilico:
No worries.

Be specific, have you signed the treaty.

Democrats keep looking for problems that don't exist and throw taxpayers' money at them, wasting money through fraud and overspending.

🚨 Gavin Newsom just blew $189 MILLION of California taxpayer money on digital tablets for EVERY inmate in the state prison system — including death row.

They sold it as “education and rehabilitation.”

Reality? Convicted murderers and rapists are turning them into personal porn… pic.twitter.com/um0ILRnndi

— Gunther Eagleman™ (@GuntherEagleman) May 13, 2026

bayelsaowei:
And you think you or Kemi speaks the truth?

Kemi is a good leader, she speaks the truth, though Not perfect.

Starmer, Kemi, other politicians lie as you claim. I agree. Why do you not like Kemi? Why attack her?

Because she speaks the truth as a British citizen right? You don't like the truth.

She is black but that's not important once she starts to speak the truth.

DeepSight:
"Given" again. And thirty years again. Enjoy.

Look, anyone who says 30 years is enough to make black South Africa Great and powerful after so many years of bondage may not be honest.
But we are only asking if black South Africa is on the right path.
We are asking about the choices they have made as a people these 30 years of freedom.
30 years is long enough to look back and ask questions.

How come youth unemployment has doubled instead of reduced? How come crime is exploding? How come the economy under the control of blacks is failing everyone?

30 years may not be enough to build the greatest nation on earth but what foundation are they building so far?

DeepSight:
Be specific, have you signed the treaty.

I'll abide. Don't take this place too seriously though.

tctrills:
Look, anyone who says 30 years is enough to make black South Africa Great and powerful after so many years of bondage may not be honest.
But we are only asking if black South Africa is on the right path.
We are asking about the choices they have made as a people these 30 years of freedom.
30 years is long enough to look back and ask questions.

How come youth unemployment has doubled instead of reduced? How come crime is exploding? How come the economy under the control of blacks is failing everyone?

30 years may not be enough to build the greatest nation on earth but what foundation are they building so far?

They will misquote me and say that I support apartheid or I think apartheid is better. I don't support it, I don't think it's better but see what some South Africans are saying, it shows things are worse for them now.

This dishonest people on this thread will still do a bad job to misquote me


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJPjKkcWKfw

benalvino3:
Kemi is a good leader, she speaks the truth, though Not perfect.

Starmer, Kemi, other politicians lie as you claim. I agree. Why do you not like Kemi? Why attack her?

Because she speaks the truth as a British citizen right? You don't like the truth.

She is black but that's not important once she starts to speak the truth.

There will always be something nauseating about people who -

1. Are immigrants but anti-immigration. You climb a wall and wish to stop others of your kind from doing same.

2. Hypocritically try to make themselves "white"

3. Repeatedly insult their homeland to score points in the minds of an establishment they are sucking up to.

basilico:
I'll abide. Don't take this place too seriously though.

Oh, certainly not. It cant even be taken seriously with the way some characters behave.
Very well. I will now answer your last argument. Later.