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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 11:47am On May 15
Just lying as easily as they breathe

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 11:51am On May 15
DeepSight:
Incredible.

Reminds me of the Nigerian Senate when many northern senators cried blue murder and voted against the Child Rights Act saying it was un-Islamic for barring marriage to underage girls.
That’s exactly what the American right wing is.
Nigeria’s version of the worst parts northern leadership and culture. So many parallels it’s hard to ignore.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by TV01(m): 11:53am On May 15
DeepSight:
Deal?
...something tells me I'll regret this, but deal!


TV
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 11:55am On May 15
TV01:
...something tells me I'll regret this, but deal!


TV
Good. I will revert.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by tctrills: 12:45pm On May 15
GracieX3:
Financial freedom. Whites who hold the most wealth in South Africa nko?

Power without money makes one a tool. You expect blacks to do miracles with a bad hand.
Your point is, unless Dangote and co for go their billions to the average Nigerian, Nigeria can't get better?
Still you miss the point. My point is, why is it getting worse than apartheid south Africa when the blacks had nothing. Now the have been given a little more what have they improved.
Why are they more violent than under apartheid?
Why is their government more corrupt than under apartheid?
These are the questions you should provide answers to.

At least, we should see a little improvement no matter how same.

Anyway, Zimbabwe did what you suggested, they took wealth from the whites and became poorer.

Uganda took wealth from the Indians and became poorer.

Even Hitler s government took wealth from the Jews and the nazi economy almost collapsed.

Mention one country where what you are suggesting has worked
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 12:54pm On May 15
shocked shocked
Reporting that Israel was using dogs to rape Palestinian prisoners.

Sadly enough, this is what was reported to have happened to Jews during the Holocaust.
Seems Israel has come full circle and morphed into the thing they say they hated.

The Silence That Meets the Rape of Palestinians
Male and female Palestinians describe brutal sexual abuse at the hands of Israel’s prison guards, soldiers, settlers and interrogators.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/11/opinion/israel-palestinians-sexual-violence.html

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 12:55pm On May 15
LordReed:
Only in 2026? When did systemic racism end in the US?
You are the one making the claim of systemic racism and the only evidence you can bring was 30 to 45yrs ago

Show us any current evidence of your claim. I live in the US and I am not aware of any. Since you know then tell us
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:05pm On May 15
Im very clear I don't support child marriage.
My feeling was that you should not jump to call all epublicans paedophiles for not supporting marriages of 18.
My immediate thoughts on democrats banning that is to immortalize abortions.
My children won't get married before they are 20 ,if they get babies before I'll raise their kids.

I've always said people who are religious are less likely to commit crimes as opposed to those who are not. There are hypocrites of course I refute the statistics put out that there are more republican than democrats who are paedophiles, something you believe.



cococandy:
There’s something seriously wrong with the mindset that somehow tries to justify childhood marriage. The solution to kids having sex is not marriage .

“Oh look a child is engaging in sexual activity before they are mature enough to understand the consequences. Let’s make things worse by forcing them into marriage which further seals their premature sexual behavior and further complicate their lives with all the strains that come with marriage”.

You simply don’t have to respond to everything on this thread. It’s okay to be like “wow that is terrible” and move on. You don’t have to twist yourself into unreasonable shapes in order to find something ridiculous to say.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 1:23pm On May 15
raumdeuter:
You are the one making the claim of systemic racism and the only evidence you can bring was 30 to 45yrs ago

Show us any current evidence of your claim. I live in the US and I am not aware of any. Since you know then tell us
You are the one claiming it is ended you tell me when it ended so I don't bring an example from before then. When did systemic racism end in the US?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:33pm On May 15


I've always asked . Why so many liberals support unbridled immigration.
Feeding crocodiles hoping you'll be the last to be eaten.
Benalvino3

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 1:34pm On May 15
LordReed:
You are the one claiming it is ended you tell me when it ended so I don't bring an example from before then. When did systemic racism end in the US?
You are the one claiming it hasnt ended and the only claim you can bring is something 30 to 45yrs ago

Bring a current one in 2026 to support your claim
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:43pm On May 15
Trump willing to drop $10 B lawsuit for $1.7 Billion to establish a fund for those targeted by Joe Biden.

https://abcnews.com/US/trump-poised-drop-irs-suit-launch-17b-weaponization/story?id=132962661

I expect the usual suspects to ignore that Joe Biden admin attempted to bankrupt every Trump ally they could not jail.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 1:58pm On May 15
raumdeuter:
You are the one claiming it hasnt ended and the only claim you can bring is something 30 to 45yrs ago

Bring a current one in 2026 to support your claim
Let's be clear, did systematic racism exist in the US in 2025?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 2:00pm On May 15
LordReed:
Let's be clear, did systematic racism exist in the US in 2025?
Let me be clear, I dont see any systemic racism in the US in 2025 or 2026, If you see it then give examples
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 2:02pm On May 15
raumdeuter:
You are the one making the claim of systemic racism and the only evidence you can bring was 30 to 45yrs ago

Show us any current evidence of your claim. I live in the US and I am not aware of any. Since you know then tell us
I wrote on this thread about the matter of housing as an example. You never said a word.
Yah, I know your response. Rubber stamp, yada yada yada.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 2:05pm On May 15
basilico:
Im very clear I don't support child marriage.
could’ve fooled me 🙄




My feeling was that you should not jump to call all republicans paedophiles for not supporting marriages of 18.
if it quacks like a duck

My immediate thoughts on democrats banning that is to immortalize abortions.
you need to reexamine your thought processes. Maybe seek a professional to help you understand why you follow convoluted thought patterns to get to weird conclusions.

I've always said people who are religious are less likely to commit crimes as opposed to those who are not. There are hypocrites of course I refute the statistics put out that there are more republican than democrats who are paedophiles, something you believe.
You refuse the statistics because you don’t believe in facts that don’t align with your prejudices. That’s called being a negatively emotional nuht.

Emotions are not bad since humans are emotional creatures. But when they stop you from considering real facts, then you’re operating emotionally negatively. And that what a lot of you do here. Just intentionally ignoring reality.

Don’t worry, despite all the available data that points out conservatives are more predisposed to abuse kids, we will ignore those and write you a new set of alternative facts to suit your feelings. How does that sound?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 2:08pm On May 15
Palestinians are just Arabs from the neighbouring nations.They became Palestinians in 1964.



Before 1948 Jews were also Palestinian.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 2:11pm On May 15
benalvino3:
Kemi is a good leader, she speaks the truth, though Not perfect.

Starmer, Kemi, other politicians lie as you claim. I agree. Why do you not like Kemi? Why attack her?

Because she speaks the truth as a British citizen right? You don't like the truth.

She is black but that's not important once she starts to speak the truth.
I won’t say I don’t like Kemi. Neither do I attack her.

The only issue I have with her is her strong misalignment on the issues of racism, her proposal on extending the qualifying period for permanent settlement for legal immigrants as a black Nigerian woman (proposal that weakens the ladder for hardworking immigrants to attaint permanent residency which she herself benefited from), and her full support for the continuous and senseless killing of innocent Palestinians by Isreal.

And also her constant Kowtowing to Trump (who is an associate of Epstein).
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 2:11pm On May 15
DeepSight:
I wrote on this thread about the matter of housing as an example. You never said a word.
Yah, I know your response. Rubber stamp, yada yada yada.
Concur like you do

Which year is the housing matter? Just concur
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 2:12pm On May 15
raumdeuter:
Concur like you do

Which year is the housing matter? Just concur
In my write up, I showed precisely how the past affects today and gave practical examples of policies.
But its alright. I understand that you were so hurt you have decided to stick to that as your permanent response to everything.
I wish you speedy recovery.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 2:18pm On May 15
raumdeuter:
Let me be clear, I dont see any systemic racism in the US in 2025 or 2026, If you see it then give examples
Exposure to Racism and Adverse Pregnancy Outcomes for Black Women: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10903-024-01641-2

Published in 2024 updated in 2025

Excerpt:
A total of 32 studies were included in the review. Significant pooled effects of exposure to systemic racism were observed for preterm birth 0.30 (95% CI 0.12–0.48), small for gestational age 0.31 (95% CI 0.05–0.58), and low birth weight 0.24 (95% CI 0.11–0.37). Among studies that compared results by race, exposure to systemic racism had a significant and rather large effect on preterm birth for Black women (ds = 0.62; 95% CI 0.06–0.41). Exposure to systemic racism has a significant effect on preterm birth, small for gestational age, and low birth weight for Black women.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 2:30pm On May 15
LordReed:
Let's be clear, did systematic racism exist in the US in 2025?
Yes, in your minds. And anytime they kill any discrimination against other race in favour of one, you people cry.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 2:31pm On May 15
basilico:
Trump willing to drop $10 B lawsuit for $1.7 Billion to establish a fund for those targeted by Joe Biden.

https://abcnews.com/US/trump-poised-drop-irs-suit-launch-17b-weaponization/story?id=132962661

I expect the usual suspects to ignore that Joe Biden admin attempted to bankrupt every Trump ally they could not jail.
Including the insurrectionists of Jan 6th.?? For which some have already re-committed crimes.

May God help what the US has become under Trump and what it would be after his vile body has left the scene.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 2:34pm On May 15
LordReed:
Exposure to Racism and Adverse Pregnancy Outcomes for Black Women: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10903-024-01641-2
Published in 2024 updated in 2025
Excerpt:
A total of 32 studies were included in the review. Significant pooled effects of exposure to systemic racism were observed for preterm birth 0.30 (95% CI 0.12–0.48), small for gestational age 0.31 (95% CI 0.05–0.58), and low birth weight 0.24 (95% CI 0.11–0.37). Among studies that compared results by race, exposure to systemic racism had a significant and rather large effect on preterm birth for Black women (ds = 0.62; 95% CI 0.06–0.41). Exposure to systemic racism has a significant effect on preterm birth, small for gestational age, and low birth weight for Black women.
what exactly is this systemic racism here. Can you point it out.

Instead of posting a link and highlighting where it mentions the word racism, Read it and state what exact practice is systemically racist

What can a white person do in US today that a black person cannot do
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 2:35pm On May 15
DeepSight:
In my write up, I showed precisely how the past affects today and gave practical examples of policies.
But its alright. I understand that you were so hurt you have decided to stick to that as your permanent response to everything.
I wish you speedy recovery.
What are the exact policies in existence today that is an example of systemic racism

This will be too much for you to think through, find a quote and just concur
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 3:02pm On May 15
raumdeuter:
What are the exact policies in existence today that is an example of systemic racism

This will be too much for you to think through, find a quote and just concur
Digest my response on housing first.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:09pm On May 15
DeepSight:
Digest my response on housing first.
raumdeuter:
What can a white person do in US today that a black person cannot do
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 3:09pm On May 15
DeepSight:
In my write up, I showed precisely how the past affects today and gave practical examples of policies.
But its alright. I understand that you were so hurt you have decided to stick to that as your permanent response to everything.
I wish you speedy recovery.
You could show him an email that says "we are engaged in systematic racism" and he will find someway to say it isn't.
He doesn't come at this in good faith or with any intellectual honesty.

We are living in a time where systematic racism is out in the open.
From Hegeseth firing predominately black people
To DOGE cutting programs because of black keywords
To ICE stopping black and brown people because they happen to be at Home Depot (with the Supreme Court imprimatur).
To States breaking up minority/black districts.
If one can't see it in plain sight, they don't want to see it.

And that's not the far-reaching stuff like disparities of who gets arrested, trial outcomes or prison sentences, sentencing, etc. or even disparities on laws based on type of drugs you're caught with.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 3:12pm On May 15
bayelsaowei:
I won’t say I don’t like Kemi. Neither do I attack her.

The only issue I have with her is her strong misalignment on the issues of racism
She rejecting race-based grievance politics and identity essential ism you people like and does not believe being black obligates a particular political outlook is not misalignment.

She and budaatum holds the view that Britain is among the least racist countries, she agrees with me, raumdeuter, Basilico and pretty much any one on the right by emphasizing individual agency over your collective victimhood narratives.

bayelsaowei:
, her proposal on extending the qualifying period for permanent settlement for legal immigrants as a black Nigerian woman (proposal that weakens the ladder for hardworking immigrants to attaint permanent residency which she herself benefited from), and her full support for the continuous and senseless killing of innocent Palestinians by Isreal.

And also her constant Kowtowing to Trump (who is an associate of Epstein).
Nobody here supports the senseless killing of innocent people, whether Palestinian, Israeli, Iranian, or anyone else.

But the problem is that people like you often define senseless killing only when Israel or the US acts.

When Hamas kills civilians, when Iran funds proxies, when rockets are fired at Israel, suddenly people start adding context and excuses.

I support Israel’s right to defend itself against Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran this will not change. You and I knows the bad guys.

The real issue is not whether ordinary Palestinians deserve dignity and safety. They do even if they are one of the worst people on this earth who have a party anytime people die in great numbers in the west.

The issue is that Palestinian leadership and political culture have repeatedly been shaped by rejectionism, terrorism, martyrdom ideology, and refusal to accept Israel’s existence.

So yes, Israel has the right to secure itself, control threats on its borders, and demand that any future Palestinian authority be demilitarized and reformed.

But pretending Israel is just randomly killing innocent people for fun is a lie, an ugly lie.

Palestinian state cannot exist in its current ideological form as a militarized rejectionist project.

If there is ever to be a Palestinian state, it must be demilitarized, deradicalized, and built around coexistence rather than the destruction of Israel.

If you disagree to this you will be here crying in the next 10 years when Gazans go into Israel and try to kill every Jews they can find again because they built one or two tunnels
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 3:13pm On May 15
IjeBos:
Why is anyone arguing with a dude who has 5 children he doesn't have custody of with 2 woman who he was never married to, about family values, the benefit of marriage and absentee fathers?

It's like Jeffrey Darhmer arguing for not eating people.
You tell me why. I'd like to know.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 3:16pm On May 15
budaatum:
You tell me why. I'd like to know.
You want a gay man to explain anything to you 😂😂
Gladys please tell budaatum, he wants to know
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