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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:26pm On May 15
Give some examples instead of saying there are glaring

DeepSight:
The prime beneficiary was obviously Trump and that famous photo with the flag and his fist upwards and the three SS agents around him deserves an Oscar Award.

I don't claim to know the ultimate truth about that incident but there are many glaring flags about it that are terribly suspicious. The far future will hopefully unveil the truth.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 9:26pm On May 15
LordReed:
Since you know what it is define it.
You are claiming something exists yet you cannot define it nor give examples of it in 2026
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 9:30pm On May 15
benalvino3:
Shift the goal post maybe when the US starts installing disco lights and billboards everywhere you and bayelsaowei will see success 😂😂

Poverty in China is a serious thing but you will never know. They control what information goes in and out the country.
The people are so gullible

They should go and see the level of poverty in China

How many of them will rather live in China than in US

China where your minimum wage might be $1 per hour and have 8yr Olds working

Everywhere is always better than US until its time to live there

A Canadian friend came visiting and hes like he shouldnt go back
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 9:31pm On May 15
benalvino3:
😂😂😂

IjeBos, this guy worships you and I am envious.
The human rubber stamp
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:35pm On May 15
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bayelsaowei:
Where is the evidence that this man was the organizer?

Has he been indicted and or prosecuted?

But come to think of it.. if you claim DAntuono was the organizer, then it means Trump was the ultimate organizer.. because he was the president of the USA when JAN 6th happened.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 9:41pm On May 15
basilico:
N


This is your evidence?

🤦🏾
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 10:02pm On May 15
raumdeuter:
You are claiming something exists yet you cannot define it nor give examples of it in 2026
OK it is useless discussing it with you because you don't even know what it is we are discussing. Got it.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 10:03pm On May 15
raumdeuter:
The human rubber stamp
Raumdeuter said rubber stamp, while rubber stamping to his intellectual besties post again.
Can you be less self aware?

Let's see how much of a rubber stamp you are.
See if you can answer these.
When Bemeruca posted pics in this thread of the day he was in the US, were those pictures of the US?
Did Bemeruca post a phishing link in this thread hoping to get people's IP addresses?

Prove you aren't a rubber stamp and see if you can admit reality.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 10:06pm On May 15
Corruption and graft everywhere.
Trump is running this country like Nigeria.

How are people you are supposed to be regulating donating money so you can take 7 months off for a reality TV show.
No wonder planes are falling out of the sky.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 10:21pm On May 15
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IjeBos:
Corruption and graft everywhere.
Trump is running this country like Nigeria.

How are people you are supposed to be regulating donating money so you can take 7 months off for a reality TV show.
No wonder planes are falling out of the sky.
The US system is turning into an African one, blatant corruption with malignant impunity.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 10:28pm On May 15
IjeBos:
Raumdeuter said rubber stamp, while rubber stamping to his intellectual besties post again.
Can you be less self aware?

Let's see how much of a rubber stamp you are.
See if you can answer these.
When Bemeruca posted pics in this thread of the day he was in the US, were those pictures of the US?
Did Bemeruca post a phishing link in this thread hoping to get people's IP addresses?

Prove you aren't a rubber stamp and see if you can admit reality.
You need to get a job and a life

Check around is anyone invested in where anyone lives? Maybe because they have a life and you do not
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 10:29pm On May 15
LordReed:
OK it is useless discussing it with you because you don't even know what it is we are discussing. Got it.
You claimed there is systemic racism but cannot define it nor give examples in 2026
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 10:39pm On May 15
raumdeuter:
The people are so gullible

They should go and see the level of poverty in China

How many of them will rather live in China than in US

China where your minimum wage might be $1 per hour and have 8yr Olds working

Everywhere is always better than US until it's time to live there

A Canadian friend came visiting and he's like he shouldn't go back
You dey mind them. Bayelsaowei sees disco lights he thinks it's success.

High-speed train tech they stole from the US, a technology the US deemed inefficient in terms of economic value and abandoned.

China is 3rd to the game. Japan is even ahead of them in that aspect and the project is just sucking up money without ever being operational.

But people are working for peanuts in China. Something these people don't understand because of disco lights.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 10:58pm On May 15
benalvino3:
You dey mind them. Bayelsaowei sees disco lights he thinks it's success.

High-speed train tech they stole from the US, a technology the US deemed inefficient in terms of economic value and abandoned.

China is 3rd to the game. Japan is even ahead of them in that aspect and the project is just sucking up money without ever being operational.

But people are working for peanuts in China. Something these people don't understand because of disco lights.
If given a choice 90% of China will be in America and never go back, how many Americans are dreaming of going to China and never go back

Chinese elites are sponsoring their wives to come and give birth in America, how many American are hustling to get Chinese citizenship

Who wants to live there and get $1 per hour, put 7yr Olds to work. Or critics of the govt disappear like Ali Baba guy

Ask the Moslems Ughyurs in China wetin their eye dey see

You can lie about everything but human traffic will tell the truth

To leftists, Every country is always better than America until its time to leave America and go live in that country permanently
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 12:06am On May 16
raumdeuter:
If given a choice 90% of China will be in America and never go back, how many Americans are dreaming of going to China and never go back

Chinese elites are sponsoring their wives to come and give birth in America, how many American are hustling to get Chinese citizenship

Who wants to live there and get $1 per hour, put 7yr Olds to work. Or critics of the govt disappear like Ali Baba guy

Ask the Moslems Ughyurs in China wetin their eye dey see

You can lie about everything but human traffic will tell the truth

To leftists, Every country is always better than America until its time to leave America and go live in that country permanently
Its a shame how anti American they are. They have taken the side of Hamas, Russia, India, China, Iran etc. Against the US.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 12:21am On May 16
raumdeuter:
The people are so gullible

They should go and see the level of poverty in China

How many of them will rather live in China than in US

China where your minimum wage might be $1 per hour and have 8yr Olds working

Everywhere is always better than US until its time to live there

A Canadian friend came visiting and hes like he shouldnt go back
You folks are the ignorant ones..

So none of you have traveled to China and you’re running your loud mouths..

See below.. you guys think China is the China of the early 1900,s.

Travel Ona and learn Ona no go gree..

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 12:22am On May 16
bayelsaowei:
You folks are the ignorant ones..
So none of you have traveled to China and you’re running your loud mouths..
See below.. you guys think China is the China of the early 1900,s.
Travel Ona and learn Ona no go gree..
Why do you think Chinese elites are hustling hard to get Yankee citizenship

Na Chinese people wan die to enter Yankee, wetin concern Yankee with chinese citizenship. Place wey be say na 7yr old dey work for factory

Jack Ma enter China dem silence am

Bayelsaowei, Straight answer - Yankee citizenship or Chinese Citizenship pick one
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 12:25am On May 16
benalvino3:
Its a shame how anti American they are. They have taken the side of Hamas, Russia, India, China, Iran etc. Against the US.
May I remind you that your god is the reason why lately some or many persons have become anti American.

Meanwhile the countries you just mentioned Trump loves their leaders and wishes to be like them..
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 12:28am On May 16
bayelsaowei:
You folks are the ignorant ones..

So none of you have traveled to China and you’re running your loud mouths..

See below.. you guys think China is the China of the early 1900,s.

Travel Ona and learn Ona no go gree..
Based on its national standards. I already said this, based on global standards he huge chunk of the chinese people live in poverty.

This is the issue, you swallow propaganda like Jaws.

Foxconn, the biggest manufacturer in the country was forced by Western companies after public outcry to increase the wages of workers.

These workers worked in conditions that made them very suicidal.

So their wages were increased to a whooping $3 per hour. They make around $15k per year.

What about unemployment? You just don't know sha.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 12:28am On May 16
raumdeuter:
Why do you think Chinese elites are hustling hard to get Yankee citizenship

Na Chinese people wan die to enter Yankee, wetin concern Yankee with chinese citizenship. Place wey be say na 7yr old dey work for factory

Jack Ma enter China dem silence am
speak to data.. don’t ask me rubbish questions..

And you are speaking ignorantly by saying 7 year old work in factories..

Travel to China and visit their factories you no gree..travel..
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by armyofone(m): 12:33am On May 16
IjeBos:
Corruption and graft everywhere.
Trump is running this country like Nigeria.

How are people you are supposed to be regulating donating money so you can take 7 months off for a reality TV show.
No wonder planes are falling out of the sky.
Lol @ planes falling from the skys like rainfall or rain pour grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 12:34am On May 16
bayelsaowei:
May I remind you that your god is the reason why lately some or many persons have become anti American.

Meanwhile the countries you just mentioned Trump loves their leaders and wishes to be like them..
Naaa. When Biden was there, they still hate America including Biden. That's why no one respects the US and they take the US for granted.

Why do you think the EU was dragging its feet with Ukraine when Biden was around?

The US is seen as a colonial power which is why the left with virtue signalling hates themselves. Sadly you have joined the fray.

It's why people like cococandy hates billionaires, they are powerful so for no reason they should be hated even if they are the reason a lot of people have a life.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 12:39am On May 16
benalvino3:
Based on its national standards. I already said this, based on global standards he huge chunk of the chinese people live in poverty.

This is the issue, you swallow propaganda like Jaws.

Foxconn, the biggest manufacturer in the country was forced by Western companies after public outcry to increase the wages of workers.

These workers worked in conditions that made them very suicidal.

So their wages were increased to a whooping $3 per hour. They make around $15k per year.

What about unemployment? You just don't know sha.
How many Americans are enjoying their work or jobs? And how many are paid well enough to afford the basics of life.??

The average Chinese has got more value for money than a US counterpart..

Cost of living is lower in China.. whilst higher in the US..
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 12:46am On May 16
benalvino3:
Naaa. When Biden was there, they still hate America including Biden. That's why no one respects the US and they take the US for granted.

Why do you think the EU was dragging its feet with Ukraine when Biden was around?

The US is seen as a colonial power which is why the left with virtue signalling hates themselves. Sadly you have joined the fray.

It's why people like cococandy hates billionaires, they are powerful so for no reason they should be hated even if they are the reason a lot of people have a life.
Trump has single handedly fractured relationships with allies and dragged the world into chaos unilaterally, impacting the globe with increased cost in oil and gas..

Trumps anti legal immigration campaign has strained the love many has/had for the US..

Many persons are not so liking the US anymore under the control of the orange pdf.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 3:38am On May 16
raumdeuter:
You claimed there is systemic racism but cannot define it nor give examples in 2026
You don't know what it is so why should I bother. Even if I gave you you will form blindness. LoLz.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:44am On May 16
Exactly. Chinese want to live away from China ,yet it's the greatest country to some people herem


raumdeuter:
If given a choice 90% of China will be in America and never go back, how many Americans are dreaming of going to China and never go back

Chinese elites are sponsoring their wives to come and give birth in America, how many American are hustling to get Chinese citizenship

Who wants to live there and get $1 per hour, put 7yr Olds to work. Or critics of the govt disappear like Ali Baba guy

Ask the Moslems Ughyurs in China wetin their eye dey see

You can lie about everything but human traffic will tell the truth

To leftists, Every country is always better than America until its time to leave America and go live in that country permanently
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:24am On May 16
Peer reviewed economics paper demonstrates AI will crash economies in the end.

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/business-economics/economists-publish-mathematical-proof-that-ai-will-destroy-the-economy-405731/

Companies rushing to automate with AI results in worker redudancies. Workers are consumers of the products , with less or no incomes noone buys the very products.

The only solution will be to tax AI labour so companies can rationalize the need to retain workforces.
Methinks the EU will love that
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 5:25am On May 16
Don’t even bother reading this if your comprehension is at a 6th grade level. That way you won’t insult us with an ill-thought out response.

But my goodness what a great read!

Jeniifer Fowler:
May 15, 2026 (Friday)

Yesterday in Beijing, the President of China told the President of the United States to his face that America is the falling power.

He used a phrase out of Thucydides (the Athenian general who lived through Athens losing to Sparta and spent his exile writing down why). President Xi Jinping invoked the Thucydides Trap on camera. He was telling Donald Trump that the United States is the ruling power on the way down.

From the suite they put him in after the welcome ceremony, Trump posted on Truth Social. The post said the United States is the hottest Nation anywhere in the world. It said Xi must have meant Sleepy Joe Biden. It said Xi congratulated him.

A man somewhere in America is reading the post on his phone.

He reads it twice.

He scrolls to the replies. Someone has typed that declining is the present participle of decline. Someone else has typed that being is a present participle. A third has typed wouldn’t it be declined, past tense then? Three civilians in a comment section, unprompted, doing English grammar in public to a sitting president.

Further down, someone has written: Confucius says, when enemies congratulate you, it’s not a compliment.

Further down still, someone has written: We’re fortunate this will be archived as part of our nation’s history. Future generations need to learn from this.

The man sets the phone face down on the counter.

The post was meant to save face. The room knew. The cameras knew. The Chinese press knew.

The Chinese press has a nickname for him. Chuan Jianguo. Trump the Nation-Builder. The nation he is building, they say, is theirs.

Three hundred Chinese schoolchildren waved paper flowers. Trump told the officials the children were beautiful. Musk sat alone at the banquet table while Chinese executives took turns dropping into the empty seat beside him for photos, his face cycling through grimace and indifference and ham. The clips have been watched eleven million times.

Back home, artificial intelligence was replacing eight hundred and sixty-four American tech workers a day, work those same companies had flown across the Pacific to expand.

Behind the president stood the American oligarchy while Xi said it. A dozen chief executives. Combined personal wealth over a trillion dollars. Apple. Tesla. Nvidia. BlackRock. Blackstone. Boeing. Goldman Sachs. Citigroup. Never before had so much American capital landed on Chinese soil at once. They had flown to Beijing to make deals inside the decline Xi had just named.

Athens in the fifth century before Christ. Whitewashed houses stepped down to the harbor. Olive groves on every hillside above the city. Goats on the slopes. Smoke from the cookfires drifting up to the Parthenon. The most dazzling democracy in the Mediterranean. A naval empire. The city other cities measured themselves against. It went to war with Sparta and lost.

The real cause of the war, Thucydides wrote, was the one nobody wanted to name. The growth of the power of Athens, and the alarm which this inspired in Lacedaemon, made war inevitable. A rising power. A ruling power. The collision.

He also wrote how Athens lost its soul before it lost the war.

In Book Five, Thucydides records Melos. An island in the Aegean refused to submit to Athenian rule. Envoys arrived with ships. The Melians appealed to fairness, to the gods, to the idea that small powers deserved to live. Back came a sentence that has survived twenty-four hundred years because it was useful. Right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must. They killed the Melian men, sold the women and children into slavery, and sailed home.

Within a generation, the Spartans took the city, their fleet built with Persian gold. The walls came down, the navy was reduced to twelve ships, tribute stopped, democracy ended. A council of thirty wealthy men ruled in its place. Athens kept existing as a place. It stopped existing as the power it had been.

Athenian politicians spoke on the way down. They named the markets and named the navy and named the tribute, listed the victories, told the audience, in the very moment that audience could have walked outside and seen the empty granaries and the warships rotting at anchor, that the city was at its height. They were eloquent. They were wrong.

In 1987, a book called The Rise and Fall of the Great Powers appeared, a title that now sounds like the sort of premise you find in a thrift-store paperback, and which contained, forty years ago, the entire argument we are watching arrive on a tarmac. It compared the United States directly to Imperial Spain around 1600 and the British Empire around 1900. It named the disease that killed them. Imperial overstretch. The sum total of an empire’s global commitments becomes far larger than its power to defend them. The book named the rising power that would benefit. China.

We did not read the book.

Look at what the country is funding.

The Golden Dome, a missile shield Trump promised would cost $175 billion, is now estimated at $1.2 trillion. Bloomberg says it would still likely fail against a peer adversary. A trillion dollars for a fantasy of safety.

Four hundred new data centers are going up to run the artificial intelligence replacing American workers. They drink water as they run. In Texas, past the cooling stacks outside Abilene, past the Microsoft build in San Antonio, past the new Meta site in Temple, past the OpenAI installation that was pasture land in 2023, those facilities used forty-nine billion gallons last year.

Texas just told its own residents they need $174 billion to avoid a water crisis. The same state is building 400 data centers.

Look at what the country will not fund.

Healthcare. Childcare. Paid leave. The price of insulin. A federal minimum wage frozen since 2009. The cashier watching you put the gum back. The University of Michigan consumer sentiment index at an all-time low, structural breakdown, the survey itself calls it, in how Americans now see the economy.

Pundits call it a mood. A 2014 study examined seventeen hundred and seventy-nine federal policy outcomes over twenty years and found that the preferences of average American voters had a near-zero, statistically non-significant impact on what their government did. To conclude that the preferences of economic elites had a substantial impact is, needless to say, an understatement.

The men on the plane cut roughly a thousand American jobs a day in 2026 and called it efficiency. Balance sheets, stock prices, personal wealth, all at records. Near zero is what the rest of the country is worth to them as a constituency.

The Iran campaign cost a billion dollars a day. The war on terror cost roughly eight trillion over twenty-five years. The Belt and Road Initiative, China’s twenty-five-year project, the slow patient unglamorous work of building ports and rail and fiber across Asia and Africa and Latin America, has cost about one trillion. Their map filled with infrastructure. Ours filled with rubble and arms contracts.

Trump confessed it on Fox. That’s why they came. China’s going to invest hundreds of billions of dollars with those people that were in that room today.

Boeing’s stock fell four percent on the news that China would graciously buy 200 of its planes. Three hundred fewer than industry sources had expected. Exactly enough to let the president report a victory. The country has gotten smaller every time he has made the trip.

Xi spent the summit speaking the language of patience, touring Trump through the gardens at Zhongnanhai; promising to send him seeds for the roses; invoking Thucydides on camera; telling the American president that a new bilateral relationship of constructive strategic stability had been established.

He did not need to threaten anything.Trump praised the choreography.

The gas hit $4.53 this week. You are doing the calculations at the pump. The numbers are the numbers of an empire that funds aircraft carriers and refuses to fund the safety net. We have to take care of one thing: military protection, the president has said. The structure has chosen. It chose long ago.

The Michigan number is the country reporting back the symptoms. The premium notice in your inbox is the country reporting back the symptoms. The eight hundred and sixty-four tech workers a day are the country reporting back the symptoms. The reservoirs at nine percent are the country reporting back the symptoms.

Decline as we are living it is visible everywhere, in the friend who moved abroad and seems happier, the slow shrinkage of what people expect from the country they were born in, the quiet calculation about which institution will fail next and whether one has the energy to care, the screen flickering with news that arrives and is absorbed and changes nothing. The country is showing signs of premature aging, no matter how sprightly they say the markets are.

Xi said it on camera. Thucydides wrote it in 411 BC. The book on the thrift-store shelf wrote it in 1987.

Sparta did not take Athens alone. Persia paid for the fleet. The countries that used to need us are flying to Beijing now. The Athenians did not believe they would fall either. Until the ships arrived.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 5:28am On May 16
Things that could’ve never been heard if in other administrations

Shame on the people who support this
IjeBos:
Corruption and graft everywhere.
Trump is running this country like Nigeria.

How are people you are supposed to be regulating donating money so you can take 7 months off for a reality TV show.
No wonder planes are falling out of the sky.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:44am On May 16
Virginia democrats were not to give up with their 10-1 democrat congressional map. Sued all the way you Supreme Court.
Supreme Court has ruled 9-0 against the Virginia democrats.

Meltdown from the democrats in progress

Georgia redrawing the maps. Difference is that they have race carved districts , they are implementing the supreme court order. Supreme Court okayed Texas redrawn maps already.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f):
I would love to keep ignoring you because directly interacting with people who impregnate or lust after teenagers makes my skin crawl. Truly truly

But you can’t stop lying with your every breath.
All that imaginary hate for billionaires is in your head. The same way your other imaginary stories on this thread are.

I would love my tax dollars to pay for things the ordinary citizen like me benefits from instead of funding billionaires. It’s as simple as that. That’s what govt for the people is. Not govt for the oligarchs. But it’s not your tax dollars, so feel free to chime in on stuff that’s none of your business as usual, pathetic wannabe.


benalvino3:
Naaa. When Biden was there, they still hate America including Biden. That's why no one respects the US and they take the US for granted.

Why do you think the EU was dragging its feet with Ukraine when Biden was around?

The US is seen as a colonial power which is why the left with virtue signalling hates themselves. Sadly you have joined the fray.

It's why people like cococandy hates billionaires, they are powerful so for no reason they should be hated even if they are the reason a lot of people have a life.
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