₦airaland Forum

nairalanda1:
The sentence makes sense.

The problem is, saying it makes sense apparently means you support APC.

If Obi, GEJ or anyone else said the same thing , I would applaud.

But many Nigerians want to live as if they be from Saudi Arabia.

Even if we fight corruption, we still need to find a way to make an extra 500 billion or more dollars for the treasury. taxation is the way to go

Oga, it is the elites that want to live like Arab Sheikhs not the average Nigerian or the downtrodden who just want to survive, just want to live.

There are millions out there that are already accustomed to suffering, to crushing poverty, to danger, peril and the threat of violence as a way of life. You need to travel wide and visit places in this country. I do regularly.

They are so weather beaten, so traumatized by life they are not even asking for anything. As a matter of fact many do not even understand the concept of government in those rural places and in many cases they just want to be left alone.

If government CANNOT make their lives any better
It should stop making it worse.

And as far as the 500 billion for the treasury is concerned, from whom do they expect to get that money. From the people they don't know or the people they don't care about.

In most capitalist nations the top 5 percent covers almost the entire tax income of nation. Nigeria is similar. The problem here is that the top 5 percent are known by them in givernment and they are frequently in cahoots to mine the country, to collectively pillage it's resources so there is that dissatisfaction is collecting back just part of what you have given out in the first place.

That is why the theme for the season is PRODUCTION, PRODUCTIVITY as against the phantom wealth of CONTRACTING which is just a recirculation, a flow of resources from government to citizens and back again. Zero sum.

Like Mojeed Dahiru will oft say. For government to set itself free from the debt trap. It has to start INVESTING in productivity as against SPENDING on depreciating assets. You CANNOT tax your way out of debt. You cannot tax your way to economic growth.

Look for Mojeed Dahiru and listen to his views on public finances and you will be enlightened.

Cybaghost:
If this man wins second tenure he will tax Nigerians to oblivion

Sane Nigerians know this, that is why we must do everything under heaven to ensure he never comes back.

Tinubu will squeeze Nigerians to death, if he wins 2027.

We know him very well in Lagos. Those days during election campaign his Agbero revenue boys would suspend the harasment of Lagosians. After winning elections, they resume again with full force.

From 70k na ogun go kee u how u wan spend 70k a month and u will still pay tax

POINT BLANK!!!!!

80% of Nigerians don’t pay INCOME taxes….. NOT SALES taxes , as some illiterates here don’t know the difference.

Majdddd:
From 70k na ogun go kee u how u wan spend 70k a month and u will still pay tax

The FG has no power to tax your income and any state that wants to enforce PAYE will definitely increase the minimum wage unless the deduction on minimum wage is very insignificant

tiger28:
POINT BLANK!!!!!

80% of Nigerians don’t pay INCOME taxes….. NOT SALES taxes , as some illiterates here don’t know the difference.

There will be up to 70 million people earning income. The ones paying PAYE can not be up to 5 million. Just the Civil servants and the organized private sector

Edit

I was wrong. There are 11.3 million workers in the pension scheme and I believe all are also paying PAYE. I also believe up to 100 million workers exist in Nigeria for up to 11 million to be in the pension scheme

DMCA:
na only when u get job na him u suppose pay tax?
u go school so?
when u sell u pay tax, when u buy u pay tax

That will depend on how much you can sell and how many people have the purchasing power to buy?......how many businesses are thriving in this country?....and you think taxing them wouldn't increase their burden?. .

Has Tinubu ever publicly shown his tax records? I want to check something.

I think you and bulaba are sick

SeaTrade:
I agree,
I think Nigerians are too entitled ,asking for what they didn't give.
I fully support the new tax regime and it's heavy enforcement.
You want development so bad?Contribute your quota.
EoD.
Part of the reason the naira is weak is ineffective taxation,causing over circulation of lose naira which is used to put pressure on fx to demand for unnecessary luxury which shouldn't be at this time.

Mattswaggz:
https://punchng.com/you-cant-demand-development-without-paying-tax-says-tinubu/

And what about our mineral resources u rogue 😏😏😏😏😏

Paying of tax does not need a long sermon. What prompt people to pay tax is the judicious use. How can people pay tax and 3 years later one man will be sentenced to one year imprisonment for embezzling N15 billion tax money? How can people pay when there are no records and accountability?.

Subsidy was removed from fuel 3 years ago, have we been told how much was saved and what it's verifiably used for?

A country where everyone literarily has to provide his water, buy his pole and transformer etc. Let's see some transparency please. Government borrows to do everything as if there is no internally generated revenue in the country. I no fit talk o

Dalohad:
The money you have looted since 1999 would have developed the country enourmously.

Stop asking for Taxes, and levies like an Agberoe, and build with the Oil money you looted and sold in advance.

Allow Nigerians to breath..they cannot continue to pay for your incessant lootocracy and kleptomania

Was he the president since 1999??

So they should pay tax to enrich you right? Nigerians will only pay tax to a competent government

jamafa:
Was he the president since 1999??

He was Senator in 1993 and has been governor in 1999, were you born yesterday?

He has been part of the rotten leadership system since time immemorial, so you cannot extricate him from the rottenness.

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Why would any sane person pay tax to a government that provides no basic amenities? The story of looters walking free in Nigeria doesn't make a good case for tax payment. Yahaya Bello is sitting on N70 billion and the FG appears helpless.

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Reference:
Oga, it is the elites that want to live like Arab Sheikhs not the average Nigerian or the downtrodden who just want to survive, just want to live.

There are millions out there that are already accustomed to suffering, to crushing poverty, to danger, peril and the threat of violence as a way of life. You need to travel wide and visit places in this country. I do regularly.

They are so weather beaten, so traumatized by life they are not even asking for anything. As a matter of fact many do not even understand the concept of government in those rural places and in many cases they just want to be left alone.

If government CANNOT make their lives any better
It should stop making it worse.

And as far as the 500 billion for the treasury is concerned, from whom do they expect to get that money. From the people they don't know or the people they don't care about.

In most capitalist nations the top 5 percent covers almost the entire tax income of nation. Nigeria is similar. The problem here is that the top 5 percent are known by them in givernment and they are frequently in cahoots to mine the country, to collectively pillage it's resources so there is that dissatisfaction is collecting back just part of what you have given out in the first place.

That is why the theme for the season is PRODUCTION, PRODUCTIVITY as against the phantom wealth of CONTRACTING which is just a recirculation, a flow of resources from government to citizens and back again. Zero sum.

Like Mojeed Dahiru will oft say. For government to set itself free from the debt trap. It has to start INVESTING in productivity as against SPENDING on depreciating assets. You CANNOT tax your way out of debt. You cannot tax your way to economic growth.

Look for Mojeed Dahiru and listen to his views on public finances and you will be enlightened.

Then hold them to account, and stop campaigning for your side. The same way the emiolkan gang campaign for their side.

Regardless of what you think of me, the reason why the elite live as they do is because most of us don't pay tax, thus most of us are not incentivised to even hold them to account self.

Abeg, I ain't here to defend anyone, just to tell you how a proper country should function. We are not saudi arabia, we need to be like a sane producer nation.

The landlord of Lagos should tell us how much he had paid in tax in the past 10 years

Macphenson:
I pity this country if Tinubu winds his second tenure. That's when Nigerians will know who Tinubu is.

This tax wahala he keep harping on is what will lose him that election.

Let him keep yapping about it.

nairalanda1:
Then hold them to account, and stop campaigning for your side. The same way the emiolkan gang campaign for their side.

Regardless of what you think of me, the reason why the elite live as they do is because most of us don't pay tax, thus most of us are not incentivised to even hold them to account self.

Abeg, I ain't here to defend anyone, just to tell you how a proper country should function. We are not saudi arabia, we need to be like a sane producer nation.

Would have been better if you were from Botswana....

BrickandLace:
Would have been better if you were from Botswana....

If the things Botswana was selling became valueless, it would be a broke nation.

Nations that survive survive on taxes, industries and exporting manufactured things, not on selling raw materials and sharing the money 'equitbaly'.

People want to pay tax. The government does not want to be transparent.

nairalanda1:
If the things Botswana was selling became valueless, it would be a broke nation.

Nations that survive survive on taxes, industries and exporting manufactured things, not on selling raw materials and sharing the money 'equitbaly'.

Why did Malawi destroy its agricultural sector because of IMF loans ?

Stephen0mozzy:
We know that one.


He that must come to equity must come with clean hands. Why ask us not to complain about tax, when even after taxing me, my street is flooded when it rains, my salary can't even take me to the hospital clinic two times for medical checkup, I'm providing my own electricity, I've dug my own borehole.

This one is valid and it's what the citizens should be asking from the center and subnationals. Every duty have rights attached to it. We haven't been asking because:
~ we have not been paying. Forget about indirect taxes.
~ we are tribalistic. We leave our duty of asking when our tribes man is on the throne but ask loudest when another tribe is on the throne.
~ almost all our big people with no exception don't pay reasonable taxes.
~ we have been spoilt by natural resources. Natural resources should be springboard but their conversion is what creates wealth. Wealth converted should pay tax.
~ if we want to borrow less then we must either pay our taxes or make due with lack of infrastructure. We have sever deficit of infrastructure. Income from our natural resources are low relative to our population and our needs. There is little or nothing left to provide infrastructure for long-term development.

HumbleOptimist:
We can't also pay tax without development

No sir. It's tax then development. More tax then more development.

Vision101:
This one is valid and it's what the citizens should be asking from the center and subnationals. Every duty have rights attached to it. We haven't been asking because:
~ we have not been paying. Forget about indirect taxes.
~ we are tribalistic. We leave our duty of asking when our tribes man is on the throne but ask loudest when another tribe is on the throne.
~ almost all our big people with no exception don't pay reasonable taxes.
~ we have been spoilt by natural resources. Natural resources should be springboard but their conversion is what creates wealth. Wealth converted should pay tax.
~ if we want to borrow less then we must either pay our taxes or make due with lack of infrastructure. We have sever deficit of infrastructure. Income from our natural resources are low relative to our population and our needs. There is little or nothing left to provide infrastructure for long-term development.

Read what you've said. We have been paying indirect tax, so we can't ask for the ONLY purpose why government exists. Please.
So the natural resource that they've been mismanaging, they'll do better job of accountability if the money is from tax and not oil? Please.

U can't deserve 2nd term when you want to kill us all in your first

Stephen0mozzy:
Read what you've said. We have been paying indirect tax, so we can't ask for the ONLY purpose why government exists. Please.
So the natural resource that they've been mismanaging, they'll do better job of accountability if the money is from tax and not oil? Please.

The only major indirect tax in this nation is vat. What is our rate compared with nations at the same level of development with us?

Before this reform Nigerians have forgotten capital gains tax and capital transfer tax. I'm a landlord, I receive rental payment but I don't pay tax on them. It's not done in those nations that we want to be like them.

When I knew that our tax system has broken down completely was when I did fx transaction through Form A and bank didn't asked for my TCC. When we were students you can't access $1 through Form A without attaching TCC. Parents couldn't register their children in public schools without showing TCC. Free petrodollar destroyed us. We need to go back.

Vision101:
The only major indirect tax in this nation is vat. What is our rate compared with nations at the same level of development with us?

Before this reform Nigerians have forgotten capital gains tax and capital transfer tax. I'm a landlord, I receive rental payment but I don't pay tax on them. It's not done in those nations that we want to be like them.

When I knew that our tax system has broken down completely was when I did fx transaction through Form A and bank didn't asked for my TCC. When we were students you can't access $1 through Form A without attaching TCC. Parents couldn't register their children in public schools without showing TCC. Free petrodollar destroyed us. We need to go back.

Face the question and answer direct; not all these big big economical jargons you're throwing around.
People who have shown zero accountability and prudence in managing small VAT, Stamp Duty, Oil Revenue, Foreign Exchange WILL? all of a sudden start becoming prudent because the citizens are now paying 30% tax?

YOU CANT DEMAND TAX WITHOUT PROPER MINIMUM WAGE OF ABOUT 500,000

Stephen0mozzy:
Face the question and answer direct; not all these big big economical jargons you're throwing around.
People who have shown zero accountability and prudence in managing small VAT, Stamp Duty, Oil Revenue, Foreign Exchange WILL? all of a sudden start becoming prudent because the citizens are now paying 30% tax?

Read again my first reply. We have a right to demand accountability but are we going to say that we will not fulfill our duty of paying tax until they account? My take is pay but demand accountability not just from the center but from the subnationals as well. Unknown to many the impact of corruption and lack of accountability at the subnationals effects us more because they are in charge of our microeconomy.

Stephen0mozzy:
Face the question and answer direct; not all these big big economical jargons you're throwing around.
People who have shown zero accountability and prudence in managing small VAT, Stamp Duty, Oil Revenue, Foreign Exchange WILL? all of a sudden start becoming prudent because the citizens are now paying 30% tax?

Do what other countries are doing and you will be like them. Make Tinubu the President of the USA and he will perform. Make Trump Nigeria President and he will fail. If you talk like this, it reeks of inferiority complex because you think all of you here are inherently bad managers while people in neighbouring countries that work are not and common sense says that is not correct

In any case, any governor you think is working now is doing so because of the revenue generated by Tinubu except maybe one or two. They have not increased their own igt

Vision101:
Read again my first reply. We have a right to demand accountability but are we going to say that we will not fulfill our duty of paying tax until they account? My take is pay but demand accountability not just from the center but from the subnationals as well. Unknown to many the impact of corruption and lack of accountability at the subnationals effects us more because they are in charge of our microeconomy.

Any governor that does not have igr greater than allocations should not be in politics. You are leading a state with millions and you have no igr up to your allocation it shows you are not good enough