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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 3:27pm On May 16 |
cococandy:What's biting me? That I can have babies with an adult, 18 or 19? Lmao okay. If she wants it there is no shame there. Just so you know 😂 You’re trying too hard to turn 18 or 19-year-old adult women can make their own choices into something creepy because you have no real argument. Also, people do creepy things with their own agency and you should support it because "my body my choice" 18, the law treats a woman as an adult. She can vote, sign contracts, join the military, choose birth control, get an abortion, move out, and marry. You no go scream “my body, my choice” only when the choice agrees with you, then suddenly act like an adult woman has no agency when she chooses marriage or family. Nobody here is defending force, abuse, or manipulation. The point is simple and short (your size) : adults can consent. If an 18 or 19-year-old woman willingly chooses marriage or children, that is her decision. You may not like it, but your personal disgust is not the standard for adulthood. So cry a river 😂 Also, most people who marry young usually marry close to their own age. You’re pretending this is automatically some old-man-with-teenager situation because that is the only way your argument works. So no, nothing is biting me. You just tried to shame adult consensual choices while pretending to be pro-choice. That is the contradiction. Try another angle. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 3:41pm On May 16 |
The bla bla blas of a pay dough. Moving on |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 3:53pm On May 16 |
🤣😂🤣😂🤣 My belle o. Humans 🤣
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by armyofone(m): 4:01pm On May 16 |
cococandy:Using American tax payers money to inflate their pocket and build legacy wealth. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 4:07pm On May 16 |
Now, basilico, this was the post that triggered the Treaty of Reasonableness. I said I will come back to it. But beyond the direct issues you raise here, the holistic matter still boils down to the apparent backwardness (lower develpment) of the black race/ black countries in the current age, and that matter will be the subject of my response to TV01 in another post, in which I will copy you. But for direct responses to this, here - basilico:It is simply effectively a hereditary absolute monarchy where the monarch is seen as a deity and in that regard is not unique in history. Egyptian pharaohs, Alexander the Great, Roman Emperors, the Emperors of Japan up till the mid twentieth century, the rulers of the Khmer (Cambodia) and the foolish Emperor Bokassa of Central African Republic, are examples. But this is an aside. What is key about North Korea is the absoluteness of its totalitarianism, period. You should bear in mind that Korea was one country and split post-WW2 via the cold war era Korean War. Thereafter, the USA flooded South Korea with investment, technology and its culture, while North Korea adopted the closed totalitarian disposition of communist states China and Russia. However this is still a little beside the point, even if it explains the immediate causes. The real point is that the peoples of that part of the world have had a completely different history and development trajectory from the peoples of black Africa. Therefore temporary set backs are not enough to imagine that both started the race from the same line. It would be like asking why African countries are not at a par with China and Japan since both countries had to start developing again post WW2. THAT would fail to take cognizance of the fact that these countries have a deep developed history reaching into antiquity and merely destroying their cities does not erase that at all! The mind has reached a certain form and disposition and that is the real development - physical structures will follow! Fun fact: The oldest hotel in the world which has been in continuous operation is in Japan and it has been in operation for over one thousand years. Beat that. Thats deep. So calm down when making comparisons okay? A contradiction. If a homogeneous society is more likely to develop than one which is not. Why then do you support immigration?A homogenous society has advantages such as natural patriotism and an easier path to peaceful coexistence and these two factors, peace and patriotism are absolutely indispensable for development. This is a fact. Look at Europe. There is a country called England and there is a language called English. German, Germany. Poland, Polish. France, French. Spain, Spanish. Portugal, Portuguese. Italy, Italian. Greece, Greek. But there is a country called Nigeria and no language called Nigerian. And we know why. Because it is a cobbled together entity which has more languages than the whole of Europe put together. In fact, most European languages are really just dialects of two main sets of languages - the Latin set and the Germanic set. That is how close they are. And yet to achieve the peace and patriotism necessary for development, they have had to battle it out for a millennium. TV01, basilico, hear this well: development is a path that must be lived and made local in mindset. It is not words on paper that can be photocopied. Institutions and traditions require lived experience. Nothing can substitute it. Not globalization, not the internet and not AI. Nonetheless this does not mean that non-homogenous societies do not develop, of course they do, simply with more tumult thats all. And we have seen the unique example of America which is a nation of immigrants and has profited massively from the ideas and industry that people from ALL OVER THE WORLD have brought to it. A nation such as America therefore has a unique trajectory and I dare say that it is actually un-American to be anti-immigration because realistically, except native Americans everyone else there can be called an immigrant or the descendant of immigrants. This is, of course not to go so far back in human history that we will have to call even the native Americans immigrants as well. If the white South Africa produce everything, majority of their customers are the black . That's the area govt needs to look at. The mass population is the economic driver.South Africa is another unique case on account of Apartheid. Even tctrills your co-traveler admitted that its silly to expect black South Africa to emerge developed in 30 years. As I have explained above, they will have to battle their conflicts, internal inconsistencies, prejudices, inequalities and social psychology and melt into an even paste that will permit gradual peace and a sense of oneness sufficient to ground and pursue true development. Not all the advancement of steel and industry brought by the white man can magically do it. It has to be lived. And there is nothing strange about this. It does not make them savage or inferior. It is just the natural path of all human societies. You have to bear in mind, finally, that at all ages of time, different societies had different stages of development. Its like a cycle, and so it is not wise to look at one race and laugh them off because at a particular point in the cycle, they are lagging behind. Where were the Caucasians when Persia, Babylon and Egypt ruled the world? Where were Britain and Germany when Rome and Greece ruled (and yet these were people of the same race in the same area? The answer rests in the geography that TV01 so lightly dismisses). Time and empires are in cycles. When Europeans found the major cities of meso-America, they recorded that not even the biggest cities of Europe at the time could compare with their splendor and grandeur. Yet a few factors decided the day. Mainly guns and disease. cc: Ijebos / LordReed / cococandy / bemeruca / benalvino3 / Obrigardo / GracieX3 / raumdeuter / anonimi / GloriousGbola / RogersAkpafu /Bayelsaowei |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:09pm On May 16 |
armyofone:We need proof that taxpayer money was directly diverted into his personal pocket. Just saying he is building legacy wealth is not an argument by itself. You can criticize conflicts of interest, government spending, or whether politicians benefit from office. Oaky. But pretending a billionaire with jets, hotels, and global name recognition needed the presidency to inflate his pocket is not serious. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 4:25pm On May 16 |
cococandy:And this is generally the approach of most sane and wise people. Motherhood is not a task for adolescents. The skill set and character attributes required are deep adult stuff. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 4:28pm On May 16 |
benalvino3:Good heavens, the Devil quoteth scripture. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 4:30pm On May 16*. Modified: 4:51pm On May 16 |
benalvino3:I asked you for a link you are yet to provide. You have never provided evidence of all your ad hominems. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 4:32pm On May 16 |
cococandy:This talk is above his paygrade. He doesnt have the basic literacy to grasp what you have put out here. Sigh. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 4:35pm On May 16 |
cococandy:Well said. And thanks for teaching an Igbo proverb. I checked it up. Rich. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 4:37pm On May 16 |
benalvino3:No one has ever said billionaires are bad simpliciter. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 4:41pm On May 16 |
cococandy:Even with 18 being considered adult, I am very hesitant about grown men who go after women that young, and by grown men I am referring generally to people in their early thirties and above. Its not just about my personal preference (I cant go near a woman less than 40, or it would be rare) - but intrinsically, for men in the full bloom of adulthood and middle age (30s - 50s), truly an 18 year old should be considered too young. Its weird. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:42pm On May 16 |
DeepSight:Link about what? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 4:42pm On May 16 |
armyofone:They’ll say you’re jealous for pointing this out. Everyone who accompanied him on this trip was an oligarch of some sort. All expenses funded by the American tax payer. All benefits goes to them. But what do I know, I don’t work hard enough I guess ![]() |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:43pm On May 16 |
Criminal trespass. If a policeman opens the door for you and you enter is that trespass? Talking about trespass,the one person whose resence made that charge valid was nowhere near the ground at the time .She was just a few feet away from the Capitol Hill bomb . There were 1500 people whose lives were ruined. I'd have to look at what charges they accumulated later to conclude if that criminal gene resides in them. GracieX3: |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 4:43pm On May 16 |
DeepSight:He likes to make up things and run with it |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 4:44pm On May 16 |
benalvino3:Well thats stupid of her. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:47pm On May 16 |
DeepSight:You are saying she is stupid but she sounds exactly like you |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 4:48pm On May 16 |
bemeruca:You alleged something about Ijebos using another handle and fleeing when caught out by budaatum. The reason I am holding you to proof is because you just make all sorts of outlandish childish claims about everyone you disagree with. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 4:49pm On May 16 |
DeepSight:Adult men should be with women who are unambiguously grown. Anything other than that is simply weird. You’re absolutely correct. When a man has to defend himself by saying they technically adults because the legal age is 18, it’s gives the impression that legality is the only thing stopping him. We wouldn’t vote an 18 year old into the lowest office possible, we wouldn’t enter into business arrangements with them. We wouldn’t go into serious lifelong agreements with them. Why is sex and marriage the exception? Just masking perversion with legal mumbo jumbo |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by armyofone(m): 4:50pm On May 16 |
cococandy:And that one up there asked me funny questions sort of like - I put you to run my business, pay for your transportation, but you go there to take care of your own businesses - how is that right @ Bemeruca? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 4:57pm On May 16 |
cococandy:GBAM! And it misses the point that if its about legality, there is nothing wrong if any country fixes it at a lower age according to its own legal system. Sudan permits age 10 for marriage for girls, Tanzania, 12 for Hindu and Muslim girls, Philippines permits at puberty for Muslim girls. If we look at laws alone, we will claim not to be held by the standards of decency which any adult should naturally and intrinsically know. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 4:57pm On May 16 |
Basilico which way bro? I said Bemeruca is so so dull and you liked and shared it. What kind of friend are you? 🤣😭😭
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 4:58pm On May 16 |
bemeruca:Lol. At least I can criticize her. Try it with stripper Melania. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 4:59pm On May 16*. Modified: 9:42pm On May 16 |
💯 Imagine me going to a Sudanese forum and some dude there is arguing with me about him not being a pay dough because their law states that 10 is okay. At what point do we start using our common senses? DeepSight: |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 5:00pm On May 16 |
cococandy:EXACTLY! |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:00pm On May 16 |
DeepSight:If malaria trumpu says stupid crap like that I will. But malaria is not a victim like you pointing fingers at another victim |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GracieX3(f): 5:09pm On May 16 |
basilico:Where the Jan sixers meant to be in the capitol building? No |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:09pm On May 16 |
DeepSight:I am not alleging, it's a fact. DaHighLife:
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 5:12pm On May 16 |
bemeruca:I cant see proof here. I only saw someone else making the same allegation. |
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