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DeepSight:
I cant see proof here. I only saw someone else making the same allegation.

Yeah. For you it's normal 😂

bemeruca:
Yeah. For you it's normal 😂

Seriously you havent proved it.

GracieX3:
Where the Jan sixers meant to be in the capitol building? No

The story is still hushed up.. What's in the dark will one day be exposed.

What was Pelosi and her daughter doing with a professional camera crew on that day? They sold the footage to some TV stations.. Did Pelosi know something would happen and having footage would earn her daughter some bucks.
Why did Pelosi and DC Mayor Ariel Bruiser refuse the offer of 10,000 National Guard which had been offered by Trump over a week earlier.
Why wasn't the guy who prodded Ashley Babbit enter through the shattered glass when she got shot indicted?
Why was the grounds a protected ground while Kamala was at the DNC headquarters.
Why did FBI who had the name and cellphone number of the guy who placed the pipe bomb within 3 months dither for over 5 years before he was finally arrested?

DeepSight:
Seriously you havent proved it.

Be there and always expect someone to feed you. Don't do things for yourself. Stay lazy

bemeruca:
Be there and always expect someone to feed you. Don't do things for yourself. Stay lazy

I had a look through and the best I could see was this -

https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-trump-47th/4056#128920437

Still not concrete though.

Its either you bring the proof or forget it. Its not important anyway.

cococandy:
Basilico which way bro?

I said Bemeruca is so so dull and you liked and shared it. What kind of friend are you? 🤣😭😭

Did I share that.dont remember.

basilico:
Did I share that.dont remember.

“I do not recall.”

Typical Republican response when they get caught up 😭

basilico:
The story is still hushed up.. What's in the dark will one day be exposed.

What was Pelosi and her daughter doing with a professional camera crew on that day? They sold the footage to some TV stations.. Did Pelosi know something would happen and having footage would earn her daughter some bucks.
Why did Pelosi and DC Mayor Ariel Bruiser refuse the offer of 10,000 National Guard which had been offered by Trump over a week earlier.
Why wasn't the guy who prodded Ashley Babbit enter through the shattered glass when she got shot indicted?
Why was the grounds a protected ground while Kamala was at the DNC headquarters.
Why did FBI who had the name and cellphone number of the guy who placed the pipe bomb within 3 months dither for over 5 years before he was finally arrested?

We deal with facts here and not your spurious conspiracy nuggets.

The Jan sixers entered the capitol building without permission and they were rightly prosecuted.

They are free to try it again in January 2029

Taiwan is bleeped!

GracieX3:
We deal with facts here and not your spurious conspiracy nuggets.

The Jan sixers entered the capitol building without permission and they were rightly prosecuted.

They are free to try it again in January 2029

Little knowledge is surely dangerous..
I'll share this about Pelosi
When you don't know something, don't make any comment, tuck your tail and run.
What was Pelosi daughter and her professional crew doing at the Capitol that day ,when Pelosi had already rejected 10,000 extra security guards.
What did they know that other people like basilico didn't.

By April 2021 , FBI has the cell phone number of Cole ,and his movement the particular time the bombs were placed. They didn't bother investigating further , fBI has over 8000 staff at Washington DC.

cococandy:
Adult men should be with women who are unambiguously grown. Anything other than that is simply weird. You’re absolutely correct.

When a man has to defend himself by saying they technically adults because the legal age is 18, it’s gives the impression that legality is the only thing stopping him.

We wouldn’t vote an 18 year old into the lowest office possible, we wouldn’t enter into business arrangements with them. We wouldn’t go into serious lifelong agreements with them. Why is sex and marriage the exception?

Just masking perversion with legal mumbo jumbo

I just d wait make my neighbor hot house girl turn 18 in 5 months time, make I carry my ship pass her strait of hormuz

The Man has reiterated again oo.. he said it with his full chest.. but worshippers will say we don’t understand what he means..

You have to be a robot to follow Trump.

bayelsaowei:
The Man has reiterated again oo.. he said it with his full chest.. but worshippers will say we don’t understand what he means..

You have to be a robot to follow Trump.

The people who voted “for him for the economy” are 🤡🤡

GracieX3:
We deal with facts here and not your spurious conspiracy nuggets.

The Jan sixers entered the capitol building without permission and they were rightly prosecuted.

They are free to try it again in January 2029

Basilico is a huge embarrassment.

It is only MAGA robots who would watch a clear, non AI doctored video and still hold on to a position of falsehood..

It’s really pathetic.

DeepSight:
Now, basilico, this was the post that triggered the Treaty of Reasonableness. I said I will come back to it. But beyond the direct issues you raise here, the holistic matter still boils down to the apparent backwardness (lower develpment) of the black race/ black countries in the current age, and that matter will be the subject of my response to TV01 in another post, in which I will copy you.

But for direct responses to this, here -



It is simply effectively a hereditary absolute monarchy where the monarch is seen as a deity and in that regard is not unique in history. Egyptian pharaohs, Alexander the Great, Roman Emperors, the Emperors of Japan up till the mid twentieth century, the rulers of the Khmer (Cambodia) and the foolish Emperor Bokassa of Central African Republic, are examples.

But this is an aside. What is key about North Korea is the absoluteness of its totalitarianism, period. You should bear in mind that Korea was one country and split post-WW2 via the cold war era Korean War. Thereafter, the USA flooded South Korea with investment, technology and its culture, while North Korea adopted the closed totalitarian disposition of communist states China and Russia.

However this is still a little beside the point, even if it explains the immediate causes. The real point is that the peoples of that part of the world have had a completely different history and development trajectory from the peoples of black Africa. Therefore temporary set backs are not enough to imagine that both started the race from the same line. It would be like asking why African countries are not at a par with China and Japan since both countries had to start developing again post WW2. THAT would fail to take cognizance of the fact that these countries have a deep developed history reaching into antiquity and merely destroying their cities does not erase that at all! The mind has reached a certain form and disposition and that is the real development - physical structures will follow!

Fun fact: The oldest hotel in the world which has been in continuous operation is in Japan and it has been in operation for over one thousand years. Beat that.

Thats deep. So calm down when making comparisons okay?



A homogenous society has advantages such as natural patriotism and an easier path to peaceful coexistence and these two factors, peace and patriotism are absolutely indispensable for development.

This is a fact.

Look at Europe. There is a country called England and there is a language called English. German, Germany. Poland, Polish. France, French. Spain, Spanish. Portugal, Portuguese. Italy, Italian. Greece, Greek.

But there is a country called Nigeria and no language called Nigerian.

And we know why.

Because it is a cobbled together entity which has more languages than the whole of Europe put together.

In fact, most European languages are really just dialects of two main sets of languages - the Latin set and the Germanic set. That is how close they are. And yet to achieve the peace and patriotism necessary for development, they have had to battle it out for a millennium.

TV01, basilico, hear this well: development is a path that must be lived and made local in mindset. It is not words on paper that can be photocopied. Institutions and traditions require lived experience. Nothing can substitute it. Not globalization, not the internet and not AI.

Nonetheless this does not mean that non-homogenous societies do not develop, of course they do, simply with more tumult thats all. And we have seen the unique example of America which is a nation of immigrants and has profited massively from the ideas and industry that people from ALL OVER THE WORLD have brought to it. A nation such as America therefore has a unique trajectory and I dare say that it is actually un-American to be anti-immigration because realistically, except native Americans everyone else there can be called an immigrant or the descendant of immigrants. This is, of course not to go so far back in human history that we will have to call even the native Americans immigrants as well.



South Africa is another unique case on account of Apartheid. Even tctrills your co-traveler admitted that its silly to expect black South Africa to emerge developed in 30 years. As I have explained above, they will have to battle their conflicts, internal inconsistencies, prejudices, inequalities and social psychology and melt into an even paste that will permit gradual peace and a sense of oneness sufficient to ground and pursue true development. Not all the advancement of steel and industry brought by the white man can magically do it. It has to be lived.

And there is nothing strange about this. It does not make them savage or inferior. It is just the natural path of all human societies.

You have to bear in mind, finally, that at all ages of time, different societies had different stages of development. Its like a cycle, and so it is not wise to look at one race and laugh them off because at a particular point in the cycle, they are lagging behind. Where were the Caucasians when Persia, Babylon and Egypt ruled the world? Where were Britain and Germany when Rome and Greece ruled (and yet these were people of the same race in the same area? The answer rests in the geography that TV01 so lightly dismisses).

Time and empires are in cycles.

When Europeans found the major cities of meso-America, they recorded that not even the biggest cities of Europe at the time could compare with their splendor and grandeur.

Yet a few factors decided the day. Mainly guns and disease.

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Africa is not like Europe.. Favourable climate , no extreme heat and cold annually. .Africans never had an existential weather problem to solve.
Northern hemisphere people had to invent air-conditioning + cooling for their summers. They had to invent heating for winter.
Europe extreme weather meant that they had to figure out food processing and preservation .
In comes energy development. Our energy needed was for firewood mostly.
Africans never had those existential threats esp those within the tropics.

That's just one point I'll respond later.

Plus.
After independence nations in Africa has a common language. That should have spurred development, our leaders blame neocolonialism.

basilico:
Little knowledge is surely dangerous..
I'll share this about Pelosi
When you don't know something, don't make any comment, tuck your tail and run.
What was Pelosi daughter and her professional crew doing at the Capitol that day ,when Pelosi had already rejected 10,000 extra security guards.
What did they know that other people like basilico didn't.

By April 2021 , FBI has the cell phone number of Cole ,and his movement the particular time the bombs were placed. They didn't bother investigating further , fBI has over 8000 staff at Washington DC.

I am not engaging in your nonsense conspiracy about Pelosi and FBI. You want to obfuscate.

Jan sixers trespassed into a federal building. That is fact. Swallow it.

This is how liberals work here.
An unfavourable issue arises in America. They look for loose ends to rope in Trump.

CIA director was in Havana just the day their fuel reserves ran out 24;hour blackouts and so on. He demanded reforms .
He also warmed them that Raul Castro is about to be indicted just like Maduro.
A Cuban NGO operating flights over the sea to help fleeing Cubans to America had a plane shot down by Cuban air force when Raul Castro was the Defence Minister..
in other words Raul Castro should deliver his 96 year old body to America asap.

How do I rope in Obama.

Obama visited Pope Francis in 2014 or so where Pope agreed to mediate between Cuba and America regarding the blockade. The deliberations were held secretly in Canada with Vatican staff also involved ..Obama visited Cuba another of his failed foreign policy debacles .He thought granting the Communist Marxist Cuba aid and everything else would make the dictator improve the lives of Cubans.

Obama was in Canada last week. He was also in Europe lateclast year. Why?
Was it because some of the grants to Cuban were kicked back to secret accounts he controls in Europe and Canada?
I know this one about Obama sounds really ridiculous, honestly that's how you liberals are here 24/7 with wild insinuations.

bayelsaowei:
Basilico is a huge embarrassment.

It is only MAGA robots who would watch a clear, non AI doctored video and still hold on to a position of falsehood..

It’s really pathetic.

When truth hits them, they run to conspiracies and lies.

The most repeated lie now is that Iran has been fighting usa for 47 years. I saw this lie on conservative reddit. I also saw this lie on some MAGA youtube influencers. Freaking cultists

basilico:
Africa is not like Europe.. Favourable climate , no extreme heat and cold annually. .Africans never had an existential weather problem to solve.
Northern hemisphere people had to invent air-conditioning + cooling for their summers. They had to invent heating for winter.
Europe extreme weather meant that they had to figure out food processing and preservation .
In comes energy development. Our energy needed was for firewood mostly.
Africans never had those existential threats esp those within the tropics.

That's just one point I'll respond later.

Plus.
After independence nations in Africa has a common language. That should have spurred development, our leaders blame neocolonialism.

Having a common language does not mean having one identity.

Africans have failed to develop a national identity and as a result, deeply disunited. This is true from Nigeria to Ghana to Congo, etc.

African countries inherited borders that grouped different ethnic, religious, regional, and political interests together. It's why I argued our problem is stems from multi-culture and we don't know how to marry all those culture into one identity.

So real challenge was not just communication. It was building national identity, trust, institutions, accountability, and a culture of unity. And hat is where many leaders failed, not only leaders, Africans as a whole. Instead of building strong nations, many turned politics into ethnic competition, corruption, patronage, and power struggles.

That is why some countries fell into coups, civil wars, and endless instability after independence.

And people will always need something to blame. In US it's racism and systemic racism for every gap. In Africa, it's colonialism and neocolonialism for every failure since they can't find a white man to blame, they have to have a blast from the past as usual.

Yes, colonialism did damage. Nobody should deny that. But colonialism also left behind some structures that could have been improved: roads, railways, schools, civil service, courts, ports, and common administrative systems.

Our ancestors suffered the bad side. The responsibility after independence was to take whatever useful structures existed and build on them. Instead, too many leaders destroyed institutions, looted resources, and used colonialism as a permanent excuse.

So common language alone was never enough. Development requires leadership, maintenance culture (which is not a thing in all the ethnic groups in Nigeria and arguably Africa) , national unity, rule of law, and institutions that work.

A common language with a national education is a prerequisite to development.Africa has highly learned people,Dr Mugabe had 7 degrees for example yet couldn't fix his country.
Add lack of a transition mechanism. Life presidents after independence. Greed , tribalism and corruption. Big man syndrome. President has to be the wealthiest person by hook or crook.

Nyerere ,a Pan Africanist eliminated tribes literally. He left a cohesive nation where tribe is taboo to mention He spearheaded a form of collective socialism, at one time it had fallen from 8th to 18th but is now 12th in Africa economically. Tanzania has never had a civil war.

bemeruca:
Having a common language does not mean having one identity.

Africans have failed to develop a national identity and as a result, deeply disunited. This is true from Nigeria to Ghana to Congo, etc.

African countries inherited borders that grouped different ethnic, religious, regional, and political interests together. It's why I argued our problem is stems from multi-culture and we don't know how to marry all those culture into one identity.

So real challenge was not just communication. It was building national identity, trust, institutions, accountability, and a culture of unity. And hat is where many leaders failed, not only leaders, Africans as a whole. Instead of building strong nations, many turned politics into ethnic competition, corruption, patronage, and power struggles.

That is why some countries fell into coups, civil wars, and endless instability after independence.

And people will always need something to blame. In US it's racism and systemic racism for every gap. In Africa, it's colonialism and neocolonialism for every failure since they can't find a white man to blame, they have to have a blast from the past as usual.

Yes, colonialism did damage. Nobody should deny that. But colonialism also left behind some structures that could have been improved: roads, railways, schools, civil service, courts, ports, and common administrative systems.

Our ancestors suffered the bad side. The responsibility after independence was to take whatever useful structures existed and build on them. Instead, too many leaders destroyed institutions, looted resources, and used colonialism as a permanent excuse.

So common language alone was never enough. Development requires leadership, maintenance culture (which is not a thing in all the ethnic groups in Nigeria and arguably Africa) , national unity, rule of law, and institutions that work.

DeepSight:
No one has ever said billionaires are bad simpliciter.

You just follow 😂
Nothing original.

cococandy:
When we talk about billionaires being evil and you guys praise them for being such wonderful people who worked so hard for all they have. Everyone who’s suffering under their hegemonic system is just jealous.

Oga stop trying to clean up what she clearly said. You act like a simple thing always.

She said: When we talk about billionaires being evil…

That na broad statement. Not some billionaires, or not certain exploitative billionaires, or not specific corrupt business practices. She framed billionaires as evil.

And that is the issue, a lazy communist issue. Criticizing bad practices okay, fair. But saying billionaires are evil as a category is just lazy class resentment.

People work hard every day to feed themselves and their families. They go to school, learn skills, build careers, and many of those jobs exist because someone created or scaled a company.

Before someone complains about working hard for billionaires, they already worked hard in school and training so they could qualify for those jobs the billionaires provide.

Don’t hide broad hatred behind fake nuance.

She said she loves mone, but she wants to take other people's money. Only short broads can love money and save it.

benalvino3:
Don't you have someone to care for? Go do your care job while your husby is probably at home consuming barely legal stuff on pron hub.

Make your money and allow billionaires to have their peace.

😌

Bwahahha.
I knew this emotional peon would crash out once he started posting pics of "his" children.

benalvino3:
19 is not underage, not even 18. Some of whom moms like you groom to follow older rich men. But for someone like you who aborted a couple as a teenager, I understand your advocacy for abortion.

Benalvino: "Don't attack me by saying I date teenagers even though I keep posting I impregnated a teenager."

benalvino3:
18 and above are considered adults. If you have issues with that go and stop the pron they allow them to act. Your advocacy should be that not men marrying them and starting a family with them.

You always have misguided priorities. You yourself did multiple abortions as a teenager

So, you married the teenager girl you impregnated? Lies.
The crazy this is that he said he was waiting till she was legal to have a baby with her.
Means he was dating her when she was 16/17.

If a simple generalization needs to be explained to you, then I’m afraid you’re even more incompetent than I thought.

Does your generalization here about black people include you and your lineage as well? Or do you magically understand how generalizations work when you do that?

bemeruca:
You just follow 😂
Nothing original.

Oga stop trying to clean up what she clearly said. You act like a simple thing always.

She said: When we talk about billionaires being evil…

That na broad statement. Not some billionaires, or not certain exploitative billionaires, or not specific corrupt business practices. She framed billionaires as evil.

And that is the issue, a lazy communist issue. Criticizing bad practices okay, fair. But saying billionaires are evil as a category is just lazy class resentment.

People work hard every day to feed themselves and their families. They go to school, learn skills, build careers, and many of those jobs exist because someone created or scaled a company.

Before someone complains about working hard for billionaires, they already worked hard in school and training so they could qualify for those jobs the billionaires provide.

Don’t hide broad hatred behind fake nuance.

She said she loves mone, but she wants to take other people's money. Only short broads can love money and save it.

benalvino3:
You have no point. You should be denying doing multiple abortions as a teenager.

The state allow it because the state says they are adults.

Your side push and sexualize kids then encourage abortion. You have experience in abortion as a teenager.

He said people are sexualizing kids when he got a teenager pregnant.
Bwahahhaha

He freestyles the lies as he goes.

So many lies he can’t keep them straight

IjeBos:
So, you married the teenager girl you impregnated? Lies.
The crazy this is that he said he was waiting till she was legal to have a baby with her.
Means he was dating her when she was 16/17.

DeepSight:
You alleged something about Ijebos using another handle and fleeing when caught out by budaatum. The reason I am holding you to proof is because you just make all sorts of outlandish childish claims about everyone you disagree with.

Lulz, this should be intereting.