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tctrills:
Whatever you mean. Good for you.

Sigh. How does one have a conversation with another who doesn’t get simple jabs like this?

Sorry, when you produce enough spark to dimly light a small cupboard, you may come back and converse with the adults.

cococandy:
Okay calm down miquet. You’re not reading. You’re just responding based on your already fried short-circuit.

Take a deep breath. You are calm?

The post you’re responding to says even as black people are 14 percent of the population, they are only 7% of Yale med program, compared to Asians who are 7% of the population and yet are 28% of Yale.

Yet someone is suing Yale for admitting black students into their med program. Under the guise of pretending to be against unmerited admissions.

Read it slowly again. Is there anywhere on there where it says people who didn’t pass the admission exams should be admitted?

Oga, the only way to admit people into a school is via exams. It doesn't matter the percentage of black people in America. The only question should be, how many passed the exam?
And use the very same standard used in admitting Asians.
It can't be more simple

cococandy:
Right? Besides black people are just naturally stipud right?. Except for the four and half of you on this thread.

Such that when black folks pass rigorous exams and get into medical school, we shouldn’t just believe it. Why would we. The facts in the white books don’t match that .

We need to sue them. Because how on earth can the naturally stipud black people finish their prerequisites, get premed degrees, pass the MCAT and get into med school?

They all agree with Kirk that all black Doctors don't deserve their degrees. ALL

cococandy:
Sigh. How does one have a conversation with another who doesn’t get simple jabs like this?

Sorry, when you produce enough spark to dimly light a small cupboard, you may come back and converse with the adults.

You call yourself an adult but you will distract and throw jabs like a baby. That's the problem with you, you don't have priorities. You seem to be a confused person

DeepSight:
Is it beyond you that children from secure homes necessarily perform better than children from economically challenged homes or is this another excuse in your eyes? As in, you can put a hungry and homeless child beside a well fed and protected one in an exam and then attribute the failure of the disadvantaged one to laziness right?

But the point is even where you see any successful black person you will still like Kirk saying it's DEI.

In short they can never merit anything in your sight.
It's hopeless.

I understand that kids from stable homes do better and I advocate stability in black homes. But you are ok with your gang member accusing Asians of racism.
Excellence has now become a crime. We are 'o longer talking about how to become more like the Asians rather we are requesting that Asians be robbed of their deserved position and it given to blacks.

tctrills:
Oga, the only way to admit people into a school is via exams. It doesn't matter the percentage of black people in America. The only question should be, how many passed the exam?
And use the very same standard used in admitting Asians.
It can't be more simple

Great. Now that they passed that point and admitted however many people passed the exams into their program, explain why they’re being sued for admitting black students. Mind you no black person did anything or accused any Asian of anything here.

It’s an Asian woman who’s suing Yale for admitting black students. Are you agreeing that the black students currently in their program do not merit it? Because that’s what the lawsuit is insinuating.

That was the basis of the post you ran to quote without reading. Next time please use your common sense before quoting me. Don’t read the meme without the attached write up.

It seems like that’s what you did and now you’re here embarrassing yourself.

tctrills:
You call yourself an adult but you will distract and throw jabs like a baby. That's the problem with you, you don't have priorities. You seem to be a confused person

Sorry I was stunned by how utterly shallow you are. Wann say it took me by surprise but eh who am I kidding?.

DeepSight:
They all agree with Kirk that all black Doctors don't deserve their degrees. ALL

No black doctors deserve their degrees out only problem is with those who got it via dei.
I am sure you agree with me and Kirk on this.

cococandy:
Sorry I was stunned by how utterly shallow you are. Wann say it took me by surprise but eh who am I kidding?.

Ok,oga stop diverting.

The cool aid is strong

cococandy:
Great. Now that they passed that point and admitted however many people passed the exams into their program, explain why they’re being sued for admitting black students. Mind you no black person did anything or accused any Asian of anything here.

It’s an Asian woman who’s suing Yale for admitting black students. Are you agreeing that the black students currently in their program do not merit it? Because that’s what the lawsuit is insinuating.

That was the basis of the post you ran to quote without reading. Next time please use your common sense before quoting me. Don’t read the meme without the attached write up.

It seems like that’s what you did and now you’re here embarrassing yourself.

What is this one saying.
No one in the US has ever been sued for admitting black students. They were sued for reducing the test requirements for blacks and the won because the data proves that test requirements were heavily reduced.
Do you finally get it?

tctrills:
Ok,oga stop diverting.

Diverting from what? You quoted me.

Now back on track. do you think that Asian woman was right to sue Yale for having black students in their program?

tctrills:
What is this one saying.
No one in the US has ever been sued for admitting black students. They were sued for reducing the test requirements for blacks and the won because the data proves that test requirements were heavily reduced.
Do you finally get it?

You think black medical professionals take a different entrance exam ?

cococandy:
Diverting from what? You quoted me.

Now back on track. do you think that Asian woman was right to sue Yale for having black students in their program?

Do you think that Yale was reducing the entrance requirements for blacks? If they were, then she is right.
I hate when it is done in Nigeria for Northerners and when same is done in US for blacks.
Please define racism.

cococandy:
You think black medical professionals take a different entrance exam ?

Clearly you know nothing about dei

Asian-American Applicants: Admitted students to highly selective universities typically presented the highest average test scores. For example, in dataset reviews for Harvard, Asian-American admits earned an average SAT score of roughly 726 (out of 800 per section), and nationwide, Asian students consistently post the highest average ACT and SAT scores across all racial groups.Black/African American Applicants: Admitted Black students to these same highly selective schools presented an average SAT score of roughly 622. Nationwide, the mean SAT score for Black test-takers hovers around 907 (out of 1600), while their average ACT score sits at 16.9

cococandy:
You think black medical professionals take a different entrance exam ?

On the traditional 1600 SAT scale, the statistical baseline required to achieve an equal mathematical likelihood of admission showed the following discrepancies:

Asian American applicants effectively required an average of 140 SAT points more than White applicants.

Asian American applicants effectively required an average of 450 SAT points more than Black applicants

cococandy:
You think black medical professionals take a different entrance exam ?

Admission Probability by Demographic Profile
Expert witness testimony during the trials calculated that an Asian American applicant with a specific academic profile giving them a 25% chance of admission would see their probability change based solely on changing their racial classification:

White: 36% chance

Hispanic: 77% chance

Black: 95% chance
The investigation concluded that these disparities in academic baselines resulted in a Black applicant having up to 29 times higher odds of receiving an admissions interview than an Asian applicant with identical academic credentials.

tctrills:
What is this one saying.
No one in the US has ever been sued for admitting black students. They were sued for reducing the test requirements for blacks and the won because the data proves that test requirements were heavily reduced .
Do you finally get it?

Trump’s racist ahass did in 2020. Because he’s always been like that. Lawsuit dismissed in 2021 because it was steupid. Now he’s trying again. Because the idea of black people having good things irks him to the core.

No he didn’t win. Please don’t be a pendejo bold faced liar.

tctrills:
Do you think that Yale was reducing the entrance requirements for blacks? If they were, then she is right.
I hate when it is done in Nigeria for Northerners and when same is done in US for blacks.
Please define racism.

No black people were not given reduced tests or lower requirements for entrance. They all have to meet the same requirements as every other candidate.

Medical school admissions are usually not just score based. The interviewers consider so many other things besides grades.

1) grade are the minimum
2) background (academic and otherwise)
3) experience (research and volunteering)
4) experience (world and life experiences)
5) legacy (rich white parents who donate to the school)
6) special talents count
7) how you perform on your interview counts
so many factors play into it.

After every student has met the required grade minimum, the admission officers interview them and admit those who they think are best fit for the program based on their cumulative performance on the other mentioned topics. This is the area where black student have been historically marginalized.

A lot of them didn’t have rich ancestors to donate libraries to the schools. Many didn’t come from rich families with the ability to travel the world and garner exposure. Many couldn’t afford to take gap years to do volunteering and unpaid research work. This is where the discretion of the admissions officers played a part.

Now less officers are willing to write off qualified applicants in favor of only white applicants. That’s the difference that’s happening. And that’s what biting the conservatives so badly at the moment. That’s why they want to go back a time when they had the freewill to dismiss and write off anyone don’t like.

1) Refer to the above

tctrills:
Admission Probability by Demographic Profile
Expert witness testimony during the trials calculated that an Asian American applicant with a specific academic profile giving them a 25% chance of admission would see their probability change based solely on changing their racial classification:

White: 36% chance

Hispanic: 77% chance

Black: 95% chance
The investigation concluded that these disparities in academic baselines resulted in a Black applicant having up to 29 times higher odds of receiving an admissions interview than an Asian applicant with identical academic credentials.

tctrills:
On the traditional 1600 SAT scale, the statistical baseline required to achieve an equal mathematical likelihood of admission showed the following discrepancies:

Asian American applicants effectively required an average of 140 SAT points more than White applicants.

Asian American applicants effectively required an average of 450 SAT points more than Black applicants

tctrills:
Clearly you know nothing about dei

Asian-American Applicants: Admitted students to highly selective universities typically presented the highest average test scores. For example, in dataset reviews for Harvard, Asian-American admits earned an average SAT score of roughly 726 (out of 800 per section), and nationwide, Asian students consistently post the highest average ACT and SAT scores across all racial groups.Black/African American Applicants: Admitted Black students to these same highly selective schools presented an average SAT score of roughly 622. Nationwide, the mean SAT score for Black test-takers hovers around 907 (out of 1600), while their average ACT score sits at 16.9

cococandy:
Trump’s racist ahass did in 2020. Because he’s always been like that. Lawsuit dismissed in 2021 because it was steupid. Now he’s trying again. Because the idea of black people having good things irks him to the core.

No he didn’t win. Please don’t be a pendejo bold faced liar.



No black people were not given reduced tests or lower requirements for entrance. They all have to meet the same requirements as every other candidate.

Medical school admissions are usually not just score based. The interviewers consider so many other things besides grades.

1) grade are the minimum
2) background (academic and otherwise)
3) experience (research and volunteering)
4) experience (world and life experiences)
5) legacy (rich white parents who donate to the school)
6) special talents count
7) how you perform on your interview counts
so many factors play into it.

After every student has met the required grade minimum, the admission officers interview them and admit those who they think are best fit for the program based on their cumulative performance on the other mentioned topics. This is the area where black student have been historically marginalized.

A lot of them didn’t have rich ancestors to donate libraries to the schools. Many didn’t come from rich families with the ability to travel the world and garner exposure. Many couldn’t afford to take gap years to do volunteering and unpaid research work. This is where the discretion of the admissions officers played a part.

Now less officers are willing to write off qualified applicants in favor of only white applicants. That’s the difference that’s happening. And that’s what biting the conservatives so badly at the moment. That’s why they want to go back a time when they had the freewill to dismiss and write off anyone don’t like.

Lol
Numbers don't talk much.
I provided hard data, numbers.
But you are giving me this long speech.
Please provide the average test score for blacks and compare to Asians if you claim my numbers are wrong.
Let's see your numbers

If I am sick, I will want the doctor who passed his exam to treat me, not one with the biggest excuse.
And for your information, the Universities lost the dei case under Biden not Trump

TV01:
Good question. In short, hold or continued steady decline at best, wholesale failures and collapses at worst. There are probably a number of ways and various considerations to model this. And there will always be a degree of speculation and the "unknown, unknowns".

Taking a point from fairly recent history and looking at how things have changed more broadly and considering specific events, I personally see little or no reason to expect anything other than mostly regression - the questions to me are, how bad and how fast?

Let's hone in on a single phenom. Would you agree that the Fula, driven be notions of ethnic and sectarian supremacy have barely concealed expansionist desires? Their aim is for what I will call "Uthmania", built on what is Nigeria.

The pogrom is already underway. Yet Nigerian leaders are arguing semantics! Whether or not it is a "Xtian genocide". What it is is a gee.hard.dicide against every non-fula-moose.slim. With undeniable indications of state sponsorship.

This will not end unless the fula are vanquished or largely subdued, or they succeed. They have swept across the north, through the middle belt and are now insurgent in the more urban and cosmopolitan regions of the nation.

In a very real sense, I am happy for the best solution to prevail from a marketplace of worldviews, philosophies, belief-systems and ideas. But all the fula have to offer is a Nigerian shaped grazing area with the attendant share-ria laws and feudal overlords. Not even modern day style ranching. How will that lead to the modern day nation you claim all roads lead to?

You often refer to the wars and battles that developed nations have had to fight. Now there is one on your doorstep - not for progress, or advance, or for rights, but for survival! And it's quite clear that there is no stomach for it. An existential threat and there is more written about detty December!

Unless it is headed off at the pass, this is going to metastasize into civil war and chaos. At best, persist as low level outbreaks of carnage. It recommenced almost 20 years ago. When and how will it end? Or is this in your view not happening? or just one of the many things that must happen over a long time before Nigeria morphs into Sweden?

Your concern about the Fulani is well founded. I cannot resist pointing out that it was not black people that joined us at the hip with them. The mistake of 1914 thus haunts us and by your prediction will haunt us for a century more. Thus, you yourself concede to the over arching negative effects that sometimes can be seen from Colonialism!

Nonetheless it is ludicruous to imagine that we will only either stagnate or regress a hundred years from now.

Such a pessimistic view point is not rooted in any reasonable view of how the world is evolving. That sounds more like deep seated prejudice against all things African. Like Mrs. Gates saying that Africa would be full of corpses on the streets during COVID.

I don't believe we ever got into the details, it was mostly sweeping assertions, grand claims and optimism? Hopefully the starter for 10 above helps.


TV

What is 10 above?

tctrills:
Lol
Numbers don't talk much.
I provided hard data, numbers.
But you are giving me this long speech.
Please provide the average test score for blacks and compare to Asians if you claim my numbers are wrong.
Let's see your numbers

You provided the kind of hard data that DOGE provided when they made up how much they were saving Americans. The same kind of data that says trump is at 100 percent approval rating.


The numbers you’re talking about say black people have a 95% chance of getting admitted.🤣🤣

Yet they’re only 7 percent of the student population. That means they’re not just admitting any black students are they?

What’s your formula for reconciling that weird anomaly?

Or get this, someone is LYING?
95% didn’t sound stupid to you when you read it given how many people are actually admitted?

You guys really let racists mess with your brains. It’s frustrating to watch.

cococandy:
1) Refer to the above

In a landmark decision, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled against the universities, effectively ending the use of race-conscious affirmative action in college admissions.


The ruling was handed down on June 29, 2023.

The Supreme Court consolidated two major lawsuits brought by an organization called Students for Fair Admissions (SFFA) against:

Harvard College (a private institution)

The University of North Carolina (UNC) (a public institution)

Though Yale was not the direct name on the Supreme Court docket, the ruling instantly applied to Yale and all other elite institutions across the country that relied on similar "holistic" selection frameworks.

Since the summer of 2023, universities have been legally barred from using checkboxes for race or using racial demographics as a explicit plus-factor in tailoring classes. To adapt, many schools shifted their focus to socioeconomic factors, geographic diversity, or evaluating how an applicant explicitly describes overcoming racial discrimination within their personal application essays.

He did zero. That's what I'm putting across.
What can you do with hope and changes can you believe in?

tctrills:
Mention policies oga. The dude was in power for 8 years.
Mention things he tried to change in the community.
Stop talking about hope that can't be measured or quantified.
Tinubu also boasts of renewed hope.

cococandy:
The numbers you’re talking about say black people have a 95% chance of getting admitted.🤣🤣

Yet they’re only 7 percent of the student population. That means they’re not just admitting any black students are they?

What’s your formula for reconciling that weird anomaly?

Do you understand maths at all?
Now if you need to score a much higher grade than me to get into university, who has a higher chance?

Chance and outcome are not the same thing.
In probability, a black kid with a lower score has a much higher probability than an Asian kid with same score.

That's how maths works. Please ask DeepSight. He is very good in maths

basilico:
He did zero. That's what I'm putting across.
What can you do with hope and changes can you believe in?

Yes,
Tinubu is also giving us renewed hope in Nigeria.
Obama is a complete failure.

The average price of “Grade A Large Eggs” fell by 4.2% for the month and by 56% year-over-year, to $2.25 per dozen, by according to CPI data.

https://wolfstreet.com/2026/05/18/food-inflation-in-america-by-product-it-boils-down-to-a-sharp-re-acceleration-on-top-of-already-very-high-prices/

He must be talking about some special sort of egg. Ones laid by golden hens maybe, because real regular eggs must be $1.99!

tctrills:
Though Yale was not the direct name on the Supreme Court docket,

Oh you’ve gone from Yale was sued and lost to realizing you were just lying? I applaud the growth. An apology would have been nice but I’ll take what I can get.

Since the summer of 2023, universities have been legally barred from using checkboxes for race or using racial demographics as a explicit plus-factor in tailoring classes. To adapt, many schools shifted their focus to socioeconomic factors,

meaning who’s rich dad can donate the most. In all conservatives’ pretentious acts of caring about merit, rarely have I seen any of you up in arms about rich men’s kids getting a free pass for just being born rich. Boggle the minds. Seems like what you really have a problem with is black people getting ahead in life.

tctrills:
Do you understand maths at all?
Now if you need to score a much higher grade than me to get into university, who has a higher chance?

Chance and outcome are not the same thing.
In probability, a black kid with a lower score has a much higher probability than an Asian kid with same score.

That's how maths works. Please ask DeepSight. He is very good in maths

Hun your favorite number is red. You don’t get to explain anything to me. I’m telling you your numbers don’t make sense unless you believe black people are inherently stupid. Exactly how the racists you’re cheering for want you to think.

cococandy:
Oh you’ve gone from Yale was sued and lost to realizing you were just lying? I applaud the growth. An apology would have been nice but I’ll take what I can get.



meaning who’s rich dad can donate the most. In all conservatives’ pretentious acts of caring about merit, rarely have I seen any of you up in arms about rich men’s kids getting a free pass for just being born rich. Boggle the minds. Seems like what you really have a problem with is black people getting ahead in life.

Yes, rich kids donate but at the end numbers don't lie.
Black kids still get into school with lower grades.
So the excuse of rich kids can't stand.
Are you saying that it's the rich kids taking the black kids spot?
And I agree, rich kids with lower scores shouldn't be admitted same with black kids with lower scores.

cococandy:
Hun your favorite number is red. You don’t get to explain anything to me. I’m telling you your numbers don’t make sense unless you believe black people are inherently stupid. Exactly how the racists you’re cheering for want you to think.

If my numbers don't make sense, give me yours.
I am sure you have checked and you see the same numbers I presented. You know you have no data to present because all the data shows I am right.

Without numbers, oga you go explain tire, no evidence