₦airaland Forum

tctrills:
Great question.
Leadership, habits, culture.
Let's take the biggest black leader Barack Obama.
Can you mention just one thing he has done to improve the black race or culture?

GracieX3:
I think the best way to convince these uncle Ruckus types (eg Bemeruca, Ramdeuter, tctrills and basilico) is to ask them two questions which they must clearly answer directly with no obfuscation.......

1. What is the solution to black poverty both for African Americans and African countries?

2. How do we fund or support such solutions?

LordReed:
So instead of rooting out those committing the fraud you just remove all the funding. See logic.

GracieX3:
Can you see the simplistic, brain-dead answer you gave?

You can never answer the question properly because you never diagnosed the root cause of problem.

Do you know why Nigerians do better than black Americans in the USA? Education and opportunity.

Try again

tctrills:
No where have you spoken about the failures of the black man.
You blame God (climate and geography)
You blame the white man.
But the most important person in the equation, you leave out. Are you ever serious?

raumdeuter:
Habits of irresponsible people. Blaming everyone else

DeepSight:
In everything I have written, I guess the climate, the geography are also white men.
Please go away.

You and your views are most unwanted.

benalvino3:
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My point is simpler: if a country had some working public systems decades ago, then a serious government should maintain and improve them, not allow them to decay.

GracieX3:
Can you see the simplistic, brain-dead answer you gave?

You can never answer the question properly because you never diagnosed the root cause of problem.

Do you know why Nigerians do better than black Americans in the USA? Education and opportunity.

Try again

tctrills:
Lol
You claim my answer is wrong without showing why.
My answer is correct, you know it but it doesn't fit in your worldview so you dismiss it.
Typical leftist

raumdeuter:
1. Take responsibility for your actions and outcomes. Then men stay with the women you impregnate. Single mother homes perpetuate poverty and societal dysfunction

2. You dont need funding for any of these

GracieX3:
Lol....so your ridiculous answer of "leadership, habits, culture" is enough to save the black race from poverty?

Why not start with the underlying cause of poverty? Lack of education and opportunity?

The average Nigerian in the USA has at least tertiary level of education compared to the average African American. Also, the average Nigerian is motivated to use the opportunities in the USA, coming from a less developed country.

What happened to investing in schools and trade businesses in black populated ghettos? What about teaching proper history? Motivating young black people to believe in themselves and achieve the most they can?

raumdeuter:
1. Take responsibility for your actions and outcomes. Then men stay with the women you impregnate. Single mother homes perpetuate poverty and societal dysfunction

2. You dont need funding for any of these

GracieX3:
Lol....so your ridiculous answer of "leadership, habits, culture" is enough to save the black race from poverty?

Why not start with the underlying cause of poverty? Lack of education and opportunity?

The average Nigerian in the USA has at least tertiary level of education compared to the average African American. Also, the average Nigerian is motivated to use the opportunities in the USA, coming from a less developed country.

What happened to investing in schools and trade businesses in black populated ghettos? What about teaching proper history? Motivating young black people to believe in themselves and achieve the most they can?

GracieX3:
Yet another brain dead answer. See a more robust answer below.....

GracieX3:
Lol....so your ridiculous answer of "leadership, habits, culture" is enough to save the black race from poverty?

Why not start with the underlying cause of poverty? Lack of education and opportunity?

The average Nigerian in the USA has at least tertiary level of education compared to the average African American. Also, the average Nigerian is motivated to use the opportunities in the USA, coming from a less developed country.

What happened to investing in schools and trade businesses in black populated ghettos? What about teaching proper history? Motivating young black people to believe in themselves and achieve the most they can?

DeepSight:
Your concern about the Fulani is well founded. I cannot resist pointing out that it was not black people that joined us at the hip with them. The mistake of 1914 thus haunts us and by your prediction will haunt us for a century more. Thus, you yourself concede to the over arching negative effects that sometimes can be seen from Colonialism!

DeepSight:
Nonetheless it is ludicruous to imagine that we will only either stagnate or regress a hundred years from now.

DeepSight:
Such a pessimistic view point is not rooted in any reasonable view of how the world is evolving. That sounds more like deep seated prejudice against all things African. Like Mrs. Gates saying that Africa would be full of corpses on the streets during COVID.

DeepSight:
What is 10 above?

tctrills:
Don't mind them.
Deepsight is even blaming God.

bemeruca:
Climate and geography are your craziest excuses.

TV01:
Thanks for capturing my post in full. It's been banned, as was I.

There is no gainsaying the forced alliance of the Nigerian nations was always going to prove problematic and almost certainly cause long-term harm.

However, likewise, you have to admit, the level of FD or civilisational quality (that would lend itself to driving a modern state) has nothing to do with the colonial invaders? Indeed, ill-thought out amalgamation apart, they would have left some artefacts that could aid that drive forward, no?

This is not a user case or journey experience. Just another claim. Why is it ludicrous, what evidence or data (apart references to long ago empires ), can you furnish to predict otherwise? Is there a blueprint we are tracking too? Signs of significant change that cannot be denied?

The world does not "evolve" in lockstep. And as I noted, there are trickledown, and crossover effects from the developed to the less developed. That does not remove real obstacles to development in certain regions.

The only solutions are one, a resolute defence. But by whom and on the basis of what? To what aim, other than survival and perhaps the chance to disaggregate, which would be most welcome and certainly make modern statehood more achievable for some of the constituents. The other is foreign intervention, which would hopefully reduce casualties and fallout, and hasten any split. But who wants that? Even as the foola issue is currently spreading across the Sahel.

"Starter for 10". A phrase from the quiz show university challenge. Used as an entry\warm-up question.


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TV01:
The one he doesn't believe in .

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tctrills:
New York consistently ranks #1 in the United States for per-pupil education expenditures. Funding has continued to climb due to state-level aid increases and local property tax adjustments.

School districts across the state spend an average of $37,033 per student.

That's more than entire local governments spend on education in Nigeria.

Now what's the outcome for black kids.
Despite the historic levels of funding, reading achievement scores—measured by the National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP), known as "The Nation's Report Card"—show that a vast majority of Black students are not meeting baseline proficiency standards.

When evaluating the most recent federal NAEP data cycles, the "Proficiency Rate" (meaning students can comfortably integrate ideas, analyze text, and identify main themes) breaks down as follows:

4th Grade Reading: Only 16% of Black students in New York score at or above the "Proficient" level.

8th Grade Reading: Only 10% of Black students score at or above the "Proficient" level.

While New York represents a "high-spending, lower-yield" model, Mississippi has become famous in education policy as a "low-spending, high-efficiency" success story—often referred to as the "Mississippi Miracle."

Here is how Mississippi’s financial investment and reading proficiency rates for Black students compare.

Mississippi has historically been one of the lower-income states in the U.S., and its education budget reflects that. It consistently ranks near the bottom for raw per-pupil spending.

Statewide Average: Mississippi spends approximately $12,324 per student annually.

The Base Student Cost: The baseline state formula handles basic classroom operational needs at around $7,201 per child, with extra weighted funding added for high-poverty or at-risk districts.

Despite having significantly less money, Mississippi's aggressive focus on foundational literacy has yielded reading scores for Black students that match or exceed national averages, outperforming many wealthy states.

On the National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP), the "Proficient" rates and raw test scores for Black students break down as follows:

4th Grade Reading Proficiency: 19% of Black students in Mississippi score at or above the "Proficient" level.

National Context: This ranks Mississippi's Black 4th graders #3 in the nation compared to their Black peers in other states. They outscore Black 4th graders in New York (16%) and the overall national public school average.

8th Grade Reading Proficiency: 13% of Black students score at or above the "Proficient" level.

While scores naturally experience a dip by middle school nationwide, Mississippi's Black 8th graders still maintain a higher proficiency rate than New York's (10%).


Summary, even with much more money blacks can't fix education.

What is Mississippi doing better than New York.

Remember, you guys call Mississippi a racist state.

DeepSight:
One has to be insane to deny either of these two statements.

Cc: TV01, basilico, ramdeuter, Tctrills, cocoandy

GracieX3:
You are just talking out of anger and ignorance. Even your own example betrayed you.

Mississipi was one of the worst states for education generally thanks to the racist nature of the state. Don't take my word for it- Google it!!.

1. Mississipi improved in black education because they INVESTED in it. They spent money, trained and hired better tutors.

2. For your information, New York still ranks as number 1 in some educational categories. So their money spent is not a total waste as you are insinuating.

3. Keep in mind that you even destroyed your older point on denying systematic racism holding blacks back. Many articles on Mississippi's improvement in black education highlight the racist issues in Mississippi's past.

raumdeuter:
Your solution is basically taking resources from others to fund you more. No responsibility from your side

Stats have shown that people who live in the same communities but have a 2 parent household are more likely to succeed , Black children in the US are 70% born into single parent households but you think that is not a major factor

Leftists look for excuses

raumdeuter:
What has the harsh Sahara desert one for us in Africa?

GracieX3:
You do realise that I never even talked about how the educational policies were going to be funded?
Secondly, you as usual never look at the root cause: poverty. Your brain dead method is to look at the problem and not its causes or solution
Married men have higher income. Maybe more work on black people having better education and income earning opportunities before talking about marriage? Get sense

bemeruca:
Rooying out fraud is the point. If a program is full of fraud, waste, fake claims, or weak eligibility checks, you don’t keep pouring money into it blindly and call that compassion.

You pause, audit, tighten the rules, remove fake beneficiaries, punish the fraudsters, and then make sure the money reaches the real people who need it.

What makes no sense is acting like every dollar spent under the name of feeding children is automatically clean and untouchable.

The Somali Fraud and other fraudstakes money away from actual poor children too.

So yes, root out the fraud. But don’t pretend questioning funding or demanding accountability means someone wants children to starve. That's the logic.

raumdeuter:
Children raised in single family homes are 5 times more likely to experience poverty. 2 people with low income can live together and create a better life for themselves, because they will combine resources and pay 1 rent, 1 light bill, one internet, One can work extra hours, take extra classes while the other covers at home which end up taking them and their children out of poverty

But your own is to Just make excuses excuses. You cant argue with numbers then make it about emotions

Stats show that married couples have a 7.5% living in poverty while single mothers have a 35% poverty rate

https://ojjdp.ojp.gov/statistical-briefing-book/population/faqs/qa01203

You dont need funding to stay with the woman you chose to birth with

raumdeuter:
What has the harsh Sahara desert one for us in Africa?

TV01:
The one he doesn't believe in .

TV