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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 3:12pm On May 19
raumdeuter:
Excuses are like shoe sizes you will find one that fits. Later you will complain about the size of the sand grains

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​While both the Atacama/Peruvian Desert system (often collectively referred to as the Peruvian coastal desert) and the Sahara Desert are hyper-arid environments, they possess vastly different ecological profiles, soil compositions, and "fertility" dynamics.
​When comparing their fertility, we have to look at two distinct dimensions: agricultural potential (with human intervention) and natural ecological productivity.

​1. Atacama / Peruvian Coastal Desert
​Despite being one of the driest places on Earth, the Peruvian desert strip is an agricultural miracle when managed properly, driven by unique geographical and geological factors.

​Soil Composition: The soil is primarily composed of mineral-rich volcanic ash, alluvial deposits from the Andes, and sand. It lacks organic matter but is incredibly rich in phosphorus, potassium, and trace minerals.

​The Andean Advantage: The desert is crisscrossed by over 50 rivers flowing down from the Andes Mountains. This creates fertile river valleys (oases) that cut through the arid landscape.

​The Humboldt Current & Camanchaca: The cold ocean current creates a thick, dense fog called camanchaca. This fog provides moisture that sustains unique, specialized ecosystems called Lomas—isolated islands of vegetation in the desert that bloom with flowers and shrubs purely from fog moisture.

​Agricultural Output: Because the soil is a blank canvas rich in minerals, the introduction of modern drip irrigation (using trapped Andean runoff) has turned the Peruvian desert into a global agricultural powerhouse, yielding high-value exports like asparagus, blueberries, avocados, and grapes.

​2. The Sahara Desert
​The Sahara is the largest hot desert in the world. Its sheer scale means its fertility is highly fragmented, resting on ancient geological remnants and subterranean water.

​Soil Composition: The Sahara is largely covered by shifts of sand dunes (ergs), stone plateaus (hamadas), and gravel plains (regs). The soil is heavily weathered, highly alkaline, and generally lacks the fresh volcanic mineral wealth found in Peru.

​Fossil Aquifers & Oases: Natural fertility in the Sahara is almost entirely localized around oases, which are fed by massive underground fossil aquifers (like the Nubian Sandstone Aquifer System). Where this water reaches the surface, the soil is highly productive, supporting date palms, figs, olives, and citrus.

​The Dust Export (Global Fertility): Ironically, while the Sahara's soil isn't highly fertile in situ, it is a major source of fertility for the rest of the planet. High winds lift millions of tons of nutrient-rich Saharan dust across the Atlantic Ocean. This dust is loaded with phosphorus and iron, acting as a crucial fertilizer for the Amazon Rainforest and marine phytoplankton in the Atlantic.


Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 3:13pm On May 19
tctrills:
Same thing,
You have presented your excuses using your links but once I produce a counter, instead of you to consider it and maybe present an answer, you get overcome with anger 🤬.
Funny chap
Look, if you can tell me these two statements are false, then good enough.

1. Environment influences lifestyle and culture over time.

2. Necessity is the mother of invention.

Just say these are lies, and let us rest.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 3:16pm On May 19
bemeruca:
Them plenty. Use Google
Name one now.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GracieX3(f): 3:26pm On May 19
So as everyone can see. Tctrills and Ramdeuter have no solution to improve the lives of blacks.

Just blaming and condemning blacks.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 3:28pm On May 19
GracieX3:
So as everyone can see. Tctrills and Ramdeuter have no solution to improve the lives of blacks.

Just blaming and condemning blacks.
What is irritating is if you flip the script by pointing out anything negative about white populations, they will have thousands of "defenses."

Not excuses oh.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:36pm On May 19
DeepSight:
Look, if you can tell me these two statements are false, then good enough.

1. Environment influences lifestyle and culture over time.

2. Necessity is the mother of invention.

Just tell me these are lies so we can all rest the issue.
While they are true
Why has environment and necessity not worked in our favor in Africa to create inventions and prosperous lifestyle?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 3:36pm On May 19
bemeruca:
Another one of your false comparison.

Buhari’s failure does not mean every attempt to audit or reform a wasteful program is automatically bad.

Buhari failed because his anti-corruption war was selective, political, incompetent, and did not produce better governance.

E no mean say the solution is to keep broken systems running forever without audit.

Yes I agree, you can clean up some programs while they are live. I agree with that. But that depends on the level of fraud, the structure of the program, and whether money is still reaching the right people.

In some cases you audit while running. In some cases you pause parts of it, remove the rot, then continue. The goal should be accountability, not blind cutting.

You should focus more on the people stealing the money
Many high-profile corruption investigations and public accusations have disproportionately targeted democratic politicians, states institutions and even Republican representatives who defy Trump.

If you haven’t noticed this pattern then you’re either politically blind or deaf. If you can’t see parallels between Buhari’s corruption campaign in Nigeria and Trump’s execution plan then you’re a Learner. I’m curious to see how many fraud cases Trump successfully executes by the end of his second term.

Trump claims to fight waste and fraud yet pardons some of the most fraudulent armed robbers in the US. This same grifter openly breaches ethical procedures and removes safeguards meant to maintain government integrity.

As you agreed, Trump’s administration can conduct investigations and audits without halting/pausing a critical initiative for the public. This approach is inefficient and inhumane for such investigations.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:37pm On May 19
tctrills:
DeepSight is now losing his temper because I insist that African should be accountable.

He claims that Africa is poor because of fertile land and great climate.
Accountability and personal responsibility is the most acidic word to a leftist, they love excuses
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by tctrills: 3:37pm On May 19
GracieX3:
So as everyone can see. Tctrills and Ramdeuter have no solution to improve the lives of blacks.

Just blaming and condemning blacks.
I gave you the solution, you said over your dead body, what else can we do for you?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 3:39pm On May 19
raumdeuter:
While they are true
Why has environment and necessity not worked in our favor in Africa to create inventions and prosperous lifestyle?
Very good that you admit those statements are true.

It's not hard to decipher. It's as simple as saying that someone in hot weather will have darker skin and someone in cold weather will have lighter skin.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 3:39pm On May 19
raumdeuter:
If you look at the stats, it doesn't mention race. When you divorce it doesn't matter if you are able to get with another person and create the economic dynamics that help the children and family escape poverty

E.g A divorce B. Then A goes to marry C, then B goes to marry D. They retain their economic advantage
So why then is this whole family thingy centered around your recommendation for improving the lives of your kind?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:39pm On May 19
GracieX3:
So as everyone can see. Tctrills and Ramdeuter have no solution to improve the lives of blacks.

Just blaming and condemning blacks.
You mean telling black men to stay with the women they impregnate is blaming and cndemning them?

You are really an asset to the left
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:40pm On May 19
bayelsaowei:
So why then is this whole family thingy centered around your recommendation for improving the lives of your kind?
Yes because family is the smallest structure of a society, a damaged family structure lead to damaged society
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by TV01(m): 3:41pm On May 19
DeepSight:
You are essentially saying that black people are good for nothing and will end up in a rotten regressive mess even given long stretches of time such as centuries to build up.

Do you understand that this is your conclusion?
Nope. I am saying the FD of the fuoola peoples means they will not achieve your desired state of modernity under their own steam.

And, unless you can show otherwise, I see nothing natal that will cause the fuoola FD to incline towards what is required to advance to modernity under it's own steam. Simply citing time does not cut it. External intervention perhaps...hmmm...let's not go there.

Please note, the expansionist mindset of the fuoola was extant prior to colonialism. The Yoruba have had to fight them off prior and the emirate of Ilorin stands as testament to their gee.hard.eest mindset. Does the fact that hundreds of years later, despite all the advances and global visibility of what modernity could look like, the fuoola, still insist on the medieval ways - spreading across the sahel as we speak.


TV
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:41pm On May 19
DeepSight:
What is irritating is if you flip the script by pointing out anything negative about white populations, they will have thousands of "defenses."

Not excuses oh.
WHy will I give excuse for whites? They are not my business. I am sure white people who care are dealing with issues in their community
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:42pm On May 19
tctrills:
I gave you the solution, you said over your dead body, what else can we do for you?
Having families stay together is over her dead body. Imagine how can someone be anti family, anti marriage and staying together as a couple

Maybe she wants govt to bring money to help people stay with the women who gave brth for them
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 3:43pm On May 19
raumdeuter:
Yes because family is the smallest structure of a society, a damaged family structure lead to damaged society
So this and then accountability alone would solve all our problems as blacks ? Abi?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by tctrills: 3:44pm On May 19
DeepSight:
Look, if you can tell me these two statements are false, then good enough.

1. Environment influences lifestyle and culture over time.

2. Necessity is the mother of invention.

Just say these are lies, and let us rest.
They are very correct so how come our so many necessities in Africa today is not leading to meaningful invention.

And again it too simplistic to say environment influences lifestyle and culture over time. Many things influence culture and lifestyle.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by TV01(m): 3:45pm On May 19
DeepSight:
Look, if you can tell me these two statements are false, then good enough.

1. Environment influences lifestyle and culture over time.

2. Necessity is the mother of invention.

Just say these are lies, and let us rest.
1. But environment and climate are not wholly determinative and have largely been overcome. And neither of these limit how civilised a peoples can become

2. Not necessarily. And certainly not at all in many cases. Why did we need trains? Or Space travel. This saying which you repeat often is not science or fact.


TV
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by tctrills: 3:45pm On May 19
raumdeuter:
Having families stay together is over her dead body. Imagine how can someone be anti family, anti marriage and staying together as a couple
That's the left for you. Any solution that doesn't have racism at the end is over their dead body
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:45pm On May 19
bayelsaowei:
So this and then accountability alone would solve all our problems as blacks ? Abi?
Family is where the society gets developed, once you get the family right, the society gets better for you. Problems like violence, poverty, are tied to the the breakdown f the family
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GracieX3(f): 3:46pm On May 19
raumdeuter:
You mean telling black men to stay with the women they impregnate is blaming and cndemning them?

You are really an asset to the left
Also tell white men who have baby mamas too.

Your solution is whack nonsense.

Education and opportunity is what blacks didn't have and it is what they need.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 3:47pm On May 19
TV01:
Nope. I am saying the FD of the fuoola peoples means they will not achieve your desired state of modernity under their own steam.

And, unless you can show otherwise, I see nothing natal that will cause the fuoola FD to incline towards what is required to advance to modernity under it's own steam. Simply citing time does not cut it. External intervention perhaps...hmmm...let's not go there.

Please note, the expansionist mindset of the fuoola was extant prior to colonialism. The Yoruba have had to fight them off prior and the emirate of Ilorin stands as testament to their gee.hard.eest mindset. Does the fact that hundreds of years later, despite all the advances and global visibility of what modernity could look like, the fuoola, still insist on the medieval ways - spreading across the sahel as we speak.


TV
The Fulani are not the only tribe in Nigeria and even within the Fulani the reprobate and violent tendency is not the only tendency.
I asked you a question about where black Africans will be in a century, its not sufficient to point to one violent tendency in one tribe and end your analysis there, concluding that on that account, the entirety of black Africa will either stagnate or regress.

There is progress everywhere if only you are not prejudiced to see it.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GracieX3(f): 3:48pm On May 19
tctrills:
I gave you the solution, you said over your dead body, what else can we do for you?
What was your whack solution?

A vague, useless answer- leadership, culture and habits.

I gave you a concrete solution- education and creating trade businesses in black neighborhoods.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:49pm On May 19
GracieX3:
Also tell white men who have baby mamas too.
Your solution is whack nonsense.
Education and opportunity is what blacks didn't have and it is what they need.
Whites who have baby mommas too will do worse than whites who are married and stay with their family

Blacks have access to education to High school level in the US which is what every other race have access to

So what is your next excuse
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 3:50pm On May 19
raumdeuter:
Somehow there is no reparation category for failures, lazy ass who wont work and live in their parents basement

At least these ones getting paid are those who were wronged by DOJ not their descendants and not everyone of their race

If you know anyone who was a slave and currently alive let them file their claims too
This seems to be the same arguing technique of most conservatives in this thread.

1.) Start with some kindergarten sounding made up statement or lie that they will repeat over and over again.
Somehow there is no reparation category for failures, lazy ass who wont work and live in their parents basement
2.) Move on to some incoherent illogical goal post shifting argument.
At least these ones getting paid are those who were wronged by DOJ not their descendants and not everyone of their race
If you know anyone who was a slave and currently alive let them file their claims too
The point was simple. You seem not to be anti-reparations for white people who knowingly commit crimes.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:50pm On May 19
GracieX3:
What was your whack solution?

A vague, useless answer- leadership, culture and habits.

I gave you a concrete solution- education and creating trade businesses in black neighborhoods.
Concrete thing 1. STay with the woman you impregnate
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GracieX3(f): 3:50pm On May 19
DeepSight:
What is irritating is if you flip the script by pointing out anything negative about white populations, they will have thousands of "defenses."

Not excuses oh.
Lol.... i remember how they didn't even answer or criticise the wealth that white south Africans gathered from apartheid- majority of the farmland and big businesses....
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GracieX3(f): 3:51pm On May 19
raumdeuter:
Concrete thing 1. STay with the woman you impregnate
Trump has many wives and mistresses.

Go and tell your cult master
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 3:51pm On May 19
TV01:
1. But environment and climate are not wholly determinative and have largely been overcome. And neither of these limit how civilised a peoples can become
We are telling the story of man's life and I am looking at it from birth to childhood to puberty, to adolescence, to young adulthood, to full adulthood, to middle age, to early old age, to advanced old age to death.

You, by contrast are determined to analyze only his puberty and discount the everything before that and everything after that.

2. Not necessarily. And certainly not at all in many cases. Why did we need trains? Or Space travel. This saying which you repeat often is not science or fact.
Preponderantly. One cannot over estimate for example, the amount of innovations WW2 ushered in. We have that war to thank for even the internet we are using.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GracieX3(f): 3:52pm On May 19
raumdeuter:
Whites who have baby mommas too will do worse than whites who are married and stay with their family

Blacks have access to education to High school level in the US which is what every other race have access to

So what is your next excuse
Did they always have it?

The state with the most black people had the worst public schools and education for many decades until a few years ago. That is at least 5 generations of mississipi blacks who didn't get good education like the rest of America.

Get some sense
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 3:52pm On May 19
GracieX3:
Lol.... i remember how they didn't even answer or criticise the wealth that white south Africans gathered from apartheid- majority of the farmland and big businesses....
You can say that again!

Not a whimper!

But they will be quick to tell you how useless the black South Africans are for not creating Eldorado in 30 years.
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