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IjeBos:
This seems to be the same arguing technique of most conservatives in this thread.

1.) Start with some kindergarten sounding made up statement or lie that they will repeat over and over again.

2.) Move on to some incoherent illogical goal post shifting argument.
The point was simple. You seem not to be anti-reparations for white people who knowingly commit crimes.

1. Identify a non issue
2. Make yourself the victim of it
3. Scream at an imaginary white man as the source of your problem

GracieX3:
So as everyone can see. Tctrills and Ramdeuter have no solution to improve the lives of blacks.

Just blaming and condemning blacks.

It took you this long to figure that out?
There is no conservative in this thread who argues from a place of intellectual honesty or conviction.
They are just repeating the intellectually tortured propaganda they hear online.

tctrills:
That's the left for you. Any solution that doesn't have racism at the end is over their dead body

Just tell them racism is why they are not doing well in anything. Racism is the reason why 70% of kids are born to single mothers

tctrills:
They are very correct so how come our so many necessities in Africa today is not leading to meaningful invention.

And again it too simplistic to say environment influences lifestyle and culture over time. Many things influence culture and lifestyle.

I have literally written epistles pointing out a hoard of interlocking factors.
You are the one who lazily wants to stick with white good, black bad.

We are telling the story of man's life and I am looking at it from birth to childhood to puberty, to adolescence, to young adulthood, to full adulthood, to middle age, to early old age, to advanced old age to death.

You, by contrast are determined to analyze only his puberty and discount everything before that and everything after that.

raumdeuter:
1. Identify a non issue

"WE NEED A BALLROOM IN THE WHITE HOUSE"

raumdeuter:
2. Make yourself the victim of it

"THEY ALMOST ASSASSINATED ME"

raumdeuter:
3. Scream at an imaginary white man as the source of your problem

"F4CKK JIMMY KIMMEL"


TRUMP

GracieX3:
Also tell white men who have baby mamas too.

Your solution is whack nonsense.

Education and opportunity is what blacks didn't have and it is what they need.

Miss Gracie, Your child isnt doing well in school, how can we work together to help her

Miss Gracie - Go and tell Ms Johnson too that her kid isnt doing well

The left loves your type

raumdeuter:
Just tell them racism is why they are not doing well in anything. Racism is the reason why 70% of kids are born to single mothers

I have literally written epistles pointing out a hoard of interlocking factors.
You are the one who lazily wants to stick with white good, black bad.

We are telling the story of man's life and I am looking at it from birth to childhood to puberty, to adolescence, to young adulthood, to full adulthood, to middle age, to early old age, to advanced old age to death.

You, by contrast are determined to analyze only his puberty and discount the everything before that and everything after that.

GracieX3:
"WE NEED A BALLROOM IN THE WHITE HOUSE"



"THEY ALMOST ASSASSINATED ME"



"F4CKK JIMMY KIMMEL"


TRUMP

Is everything okay at home?

DeepSight:
I have literally written epistles pointing out a hoard of interlocking factors.
You are the one who lazily wants to stick with white good, black bad.

We are telling the story of man's life and I am looking at it from birth to childhood to puberty, to adolescence, to young adulthood, to full adulthood, to middle age, to early old age, to advanced old age to death.

You, by contrast are determined to analyze only his puberty and discount the everything before that and everything after that.

You must always be a victim, You mentioned Atacama Peruvians, Are they also white good, black bad?

Once you have a hammer, everything becomes a nail. Your hammer of racism and victimhood cures everything

GracieX3:
Trump has many wives and mistresses.

Go and tell your cult master

Trump has been divorced many times like 50% of American men
But He always goes back into another marriage, And his children are raised in it

raumdeuter:
Family is where the society gets developed, once you get the family right, the society gets better for you. Problems like violence, poverty, are tied to the the breakdown f the family

So the root cause of poverty and violence in all societies around the world is solely tied to the breakdown of families.

Once all families are together, poverty is magically eradicated and violence comes to a stop.

Wonderful!!!

GracieX3:
Did they always have it?

The state with the most black people had the worst public schools and education for many decades until a few years ago. That is at least 5 generations of mississipi blacks who didn't get good education like the rest of America.

Get some sense

How many generations does it take to keep the family together? Even during the worst period for blacks, their families stayed together

bayelsaowei:
So the root cause of poverty and violence in all societies around the world is solely tied to the breakdown of families.

Once all families are together, poverty is magically eradicated and violence comes to a stop.

Wonderful!!!

Only an idiott argues in absolutes, ALL, NONE

There are multiple researches that show a direct relationship between a single parent household and poverty

I am sure you will find one billionare who is a single parent as evidence. Which is why education is always important

raumdeuter:
WHy will I give excuse for whites? They are not my business. I am sure white people who care are dealing with issues in their community

Unless you dont believe in cause and effect, even for them, there is a cause, a reason, and explanation for everything. That is the law of cause and effect. Unless you believe in voodoo.

So when you say things like - oh the problem is absentee husbands. Please follow up with "Why?" Rather than make it appear as though God created blackmen with that unique tendency.

When tctrills says oh, its leadership and corruption, he should do the same - ask why such poor leadership and why such corruption, rather than make it appear as though it comes naturally with black skin.

And when someone is giving you well researched scientific answers, all you can do is throw up your hands and shout "excuses!"

raumdeuter:
There are multiple researches that show a direct relationship between a single parent household and poverty

And what is the cause of this social dynamic?
Or did God create blacks with that unique genetic predilection for single parenthood and absentee fatherism?
Is that your explanation?
God made us so?

DeepSight:
Unless you dont believe in cause and effect, even for them, there is a cause, a reason, and explanation for everything. That is the law of cause and effect. Unless you believe in voodoo.

So when you say things like - oh the problem is absentee husbands. Please follow up with "Why?" Rather than make it appear as though God created blackmen with that unique tendency.

When tctrills says oh, its leadership and corruption, he should do the same - ask why such poor leadership and why such corruption, rather than make it appear as though it comes naturally with black skin.

And when someone is giving you well researched scientific answers, all you can do is throw up your hands and shout "excuses!"

60yrs ago and beyond at the worst times for American blacks they stayed with their women until the Left started incentivizing the breakdown of the family with their No man at home policy

An here we are 50yrs later, the demography with the highest kids born out of wedlock

raumdeuter:
You must always be a victim, You mentioned Atacama Peruvians, Are they also white good, black bad?

Once you have a hammer, everything becomes a nail. Your hammer of racism and victimhood cures everything

Oh, and Peru is a first world developed country doing better than African countries today right?

DeepSight:
I have literally written epistles pointing out a hoard of interlocking factors.
You are the one who lazily wants to stick with white good, black bad.

We are telling the story of man's life and I am looking at it from birth to childhood to puberty, to adolescence, to young adulthood, to full adulthood, to middle age, to early old age, to advanced old age to death.

You, by contrast are determined to analyze only his puberty and discount everything before that and everything after that.

No, you are wrong but then, let me use your analogy.
Choices we make at puberty affects our adulthood.
So if a girl chooses to become pregnant and become a mother of 4 in her teen years, would you be surprised if she doesn't complete school?
So what choices are we are a race making now in our puberty?

raumdeuter:
60yrs ago and beyond at the worst times for American blacks they stayed with their women until the Left started incentivizing the breakdown of the family with their No man at home policy

An here we are 50yrs later, the demography with the highest kids born out of wedlock

Why.
Answer.

raumdeuter:
Just tell them racism is why they are not doing well in anything. Racism is the reason why 70% of kids are born to single mothers

That's what they want to hear

DeepSight:
The Fulani are not the only tribe in Nigeria and even within the Fulani the reprobate and violent tendency is not the only tendency.

It is a prevailing tendency of theirs. A large part of the Fulani cultural makeup and FD. Animating bloodshed and wholescale slaughter and you would rather it ignored - even as your people are dying

DeepSight:
I asked you a question about where black Africans will be in a century, its not sufficient to point to one violent tendency in one tribe and end your analysis there, concluding that on that account, the entirety of black Africa will either stagnate or regress.

Used metaphorically to show how the FD of most of these peoples and nations will not change without some great impetus. It has take them millenia to arrive at, and solidify their culture as it exists. I have already pointed out the SA donning their animal skins and chasing other Africans with their assegais . What of the wretched mess that is Somalia? And their FD being exported worldwide .

DeepSight:
There is progress everywhere if only you are not prejudiced to see it.

Really? You asked how things would be in a 100 years. Two hundred years ago the foula gee.hard had to be stopped by the Yoruba forcibly. At Osogbo. They are now attempting the very same thing again - albeit on a national scale. https://www.nairaland.com/4325932/termination-fulani-jihad-yorubas-1840.

In the interim period, the world has advanced tremendously. The foula themselves have witnessed it, yet this - gee.hard.? Could you please explain why things will be any different in a 100 years time? Unless they are subdued? Why do you anticipate their FD changing in 100 years when it has remained steady for 200? Despite the tremendous pace of modernity - on view to all?


TV

DeepSight:
And what is the cause of this social dynamic?
Or did God create blacks with that unique genetic predilection for single parenthood and absentee fatherism?
Is that your explanation?
God made us so?

If you check history, you will realize that 60yrs ago black families were not like this.

Unless in your own mind, God started making new blacks different from the old ones who stayed with their families

You have blamed climate, blamed God, blamed white men, blamed soil, blamed water already

DeepSight:
Oh, and Peru is a first world developed country doing better than African countries today right?

Where does Peru fit in your own binary white good, black bad?

tctrills:
No, you are wrong but then, let me use your analogy.
Choices we make at puberty affects our adulthood.
So if a girl chooses to become pregnant and become a mother of 4 in her teen years, would you be surprised if she doesn't complete school?
So what choices are we are a race making now in our puberty?

If you know the bold to be true, you have been wasting our time arguing against the obvious.
Can you also discount the circumstances of birth?

Abi it doesn't matter if someone was a homeless orphan and you compare his struggle to that of Dangote's child?
And if he reminds you that he was a homeless orphan you shout "excuses!"

DeepSight:
Why.
Answer.

You quoted the post that gave you the reason but still ask why?

Okay, let me give you the answer you desire, the white man decided to impregnate blacks and ran away or told them to stay away from their family

GracieX3:
What was your whack solution?

A vague, useless answer- leadership, culture and habits.

I gave you a concrete solution- education and creating trade businesses in black neighborhoods.

Trust me, New York is trying your concrete solution spending a fortune on each child's education but only 10% of it's black kids end up with the right reading skills. But according to you, that makes them number one in the US. To me, that's failure.
Definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting it to work.

raumdeuter:
Where does Peru fit in your own binary white good, black bad?

Pls dont try to flip your own logic on me. Its tctrills that brought Peruvian desert into the matter and I am asking you if Peru is now a developed first world country. If it is not then the argument you were championing falls apart on that score.

This is aside the fact that I troubled myself to extract the differences in the deserts. In fact, one dessert helps another, but forget it. You guys are too lazy for that level.

raumdeuter:
You quoted the post that gave you the reason but still ask why?

Okay, let me give you the answer you desire, the white man decided to impregnate blacks and ran away or told them to stay away from their family

Dont be silly. Answer the question.

raumdeuter:
You have blamed climate, blamed God, blamed white men, blamed soil, blamed water already

Everyone but...


TV

raumdeuter:
If you check history, you will realize that 60yrs ago black families were not like this.

Unless in your own mind, God started making new blacks different from the old ones who stayed with their families

You have blamed climate, blamed God, blamed white men, blamed soil, blamed water already

I am still waiting for the reason.
Oh wait - dont tell me its hip hop?!!!!

raumdeuter:
Only an idiott argues in absolutes, ALL, NONE

There are multiple researches that show a direct relationship between a single parent household and poverty

I am sure you will find one billionare who is a single parent as evidence. Which is why education is always important

So what are the other root causes? You have mentioned education (that’s an Improvement)

I noticed earlier you were particular about the family unit and accountability alone. Mention more root causes in addition to education.

TV01:
Everyone but...


TV

Thats absolutely unfair, my epistles have noted the issues we have such as corruption - which are simply not unique to us. By contrast, you lot pick those issues and act as though they are genetic flaws unique to black people as created by God.