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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
Brad Raffensperger Georgia Sec of state loses his gubernatorial bid .
In 2021 Trump called Raffesnperger holding a copy of an audit report made by the Trump team. He explicitly mentioned discrepancies and asked Raffesnperger not to certify the election. Trump was sure that 17000 votes were fraudulent ( (it's a fact) ,Joe Biden was ahead by 11000.
Raffesnperger deputy Jordan Fuchs was in on the call , she recorded it and leaked it to Wapo. The selected part was Trump asking Raffesnperger to find him 11000 votes and declare him the rightful winner. Jordan Fuchs recorded the call while in Florida.In Florida you can't record a call without consent of both parties. She broke Florida law in other words .
The leak was timed to cause max damage to the 2nd sham impeachment being moved forward by Pelosi with the help of Mary McCord.

Raffesnperger FA and found out.
The crooked Raffesnperger and Governor Kemp made sure Trump lost Georgia in 2020. Todd Blanche confirmed on Sunday to Bartiromo and to the Senate Appropriations committee yesterday that DOJ is investigating Fulton County over 2020 elections.

Republican Massie is also out.
Senator John Cornyn is also bound to lose, Ken Paxton has officially bern endorsed by Trump. John Cornyn is part of the RINOs holding back the VoterID Bill.

FAFO.
For the avoidance of doubts I deliberately mention specific names wherever possible .

Arizona Governor Kattie Hobbs is also not sitting pretty. Tod Blanche confirmed DOJ is investigating Arizona 2020 elections. She was Sec of State then , when she ran for governor she was in charge of Arizona elections defeating Kari Lake by only 17000 votes out of 2.5 million cast. These corrupt RINOs need to be voted out
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:41am On May 20
Israel only came into existence as a nation in 1948. It's GDP is higher than every African nation.

Stop dwelling on trivialities.

GracieX3:
Please when was Israel ever enslaved for 3000 years? That never happened and this is victim mentality over a lie.

This one that you are saying that you are an Israeli....hmmm
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 5:54am On May 20
basilico:
Israel only came into existence as a nation in 1948. It's GDP is higher than every African nation.

Stop dwelling on trivialities.
1) Now we agree they only came into existence in 1948?
We finally agree they’re not the rightful owners of the land they’re exterminating Palestinians for? I always knew you guys know right from wrong. You just sold your souls for nothing.

2) how many Africans countries have the backing of America to go and kill and conquer and pillage whomever they deem fit?
If we did, our GDPs would rivals Israel’s too!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:55am On May 20
Speaking of traitors. In 2020 Trump appointed Mike Pence the coordinator of the WH Coronavirus Task force. Other members were Dr Fauci and Dr Birx.
The taskforce was able to quickly churn out supplies and facilitate research on vaccines.

2 days after Joe Biden was declared the winner , Pfizer proudly announced their vaccine had 90% efficacy against the virus. Nov 9. By December 2 ,Pfizer was already exporting the vaccine

Logically long before by election day the results of the tests were in. Pfizer should have announced months before that their vaccine was promising, or at least several weeks before the election.
They didn't. It would have given Trump a huge campaign boost.

Mike Pence and Fauci knew about this , they chose not to announce the good news because it would have helped Trump . Democrats had spent a whole year accusing him of mishandling COVID .

Mike Pence was a traitor from the word go. He was the one who was supposed to replace Trump with the release of the grab em tape.
He was the one who said Flynn lied to him about talking to Russia Ambassador. In reality Flynn didn't tell him because it was a non issue, Flynn had been speaking to every other ambassador in preparation of his role as incoming Nat Sec Advisor.
Trump would have cured cancer were it not for such traitors .

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 6:06am On May 20
bemeruca:
No be my time you go waste
Bro you've got nothing and you know it. Don't pretend.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by RodgersAkpafu: 6:10am On May 20
cococandy:
1) Now we agree they only came into existence in 1948?
We finally agree they’re not the rightful owners of the land they’re exterminating Palestinians for? I always knew you guys know right from wrong. You just sold your souls for nothing.

2) how many Africans countries have the backing of America to go and kill and conquer and pillage whomever they deem fit?
If we did, our GDPs would rivals Israel’s too!
At this point one just have to pity these brainwashed people
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 6:12am On May 20
cococandy:
Education is already there but people are still unaware. Means we could use more….. education?

You’re contradicting yourself. If there are variables some people are unaware of, how best do they become aware of not through education? That means that the education is not all there? is it?

I don’t think you guys realize you don’t have to consistently disagree with anyone you think is on the left even when they’re making the same point as you. It’s strange to observe.

I just watched you guys shoot down education as an option because Gracie suggested it. Only to turn around and suggest it to me as if that it was your idea. Now when I point it out to you, you try to backtrack.

It’s exhausting and unreasonable.
You are mixing two different things. And budaatum also has this issue.

When I say education is already there, I am talking about formal education and access to information.

People know corruption is bad. They know tribalism, greed, selfishness, and disunity destroy societies.

This is not some hidden secret that only a university professor can explain.

The problem is not that people have never heard the truth. The problem is that many people know the truth and still choose the wrong thing when money, power, tribe, religion, or personal interest is involved.

See Emefiele as an example. He is not an illiterate man. He is educated, experienced, and had access to every economic expert, etc.

Yet what did that education produce when character, accountability, and national interest were missing?

So no, I am not contradicting myself.

Education can expose wrong thinking, but education alone does not fix character.

You can educate a greedy person and simply produce a smarter thief.

You can educate a tribalist and simply produce someone who justifies tribalism with better grammar.

My point is this - the deeper problem is mindset, culture, values, accountability, and unity.

Education helps, yes, but pretending education alone is the magic solution is shallow.

And when I push back on Deepsight blaming everything on white people, colonialism, or climate, that is also a form of education. I am challenging excuses, exposing weak arguments, and forcing him to confront internal failures.

So the issue is not left or right. The issue is whether we are honest enough to admit that our own choices, leaders, culture, greed, and disunity are major reasons for our problems.

So we have a culture of greed and selfishness in the country.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GracieX3(f): 6:12am On May 20
basilico:
Israel only came into existence as a nation in 1948. It's GDP is higher than every African nation.

Stop dwelling on trivialities.
Here are some facts that destroy your talking points.

1. Nigeria got its independence in 1960, over a decade after Israel was formed in 1948.

2. Israel always had and continues to have the support of USA and the UK.

3. Israel is the biggest recipient of aid from the USA. They have been collecting aid long before Nigeria was even formed.

4. Israel was funded in their creation by Israeli diaspora, German holocaust reparations and us aid.

Please did blacks get reparations for slavery which was worse and longer than the holocaust?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by RodgersAkpafu: 6:14am On May 20
bemeruca:
By recognizing our nonsense instead of blaming the white man and climate change
This is how you know finished African

When they make comments like these.

When they are too emptyyy to understand the full context to WHY Africa is the way it is

An African who exonerate the systemic damage of white supremacy on African people is not an African that should be considered seriously

And I bet you are also a "Christian"

Because thats how you people think
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by RodgersAkpafu: 6:14am On May 20
GracieX3:
Here are some facts that destroy your talking points.

1. Nigeria got its independence in 1960, over a decade after Israel was formed in 1948.

2. Israel always had and continues to have the support of USA and the UK.

3. Israel is the biggest recipient of aid from the USA. They have been collecting aid long before Nigeria was even formed.

4. Israel was funded in their creation by Israeli diaspora, German holocaust reparations and us aid.

Please did blacks get reparations for slavery which was worse and longer than the holocaust?
Dont mind all these people dealing with inferiority complex
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by RodgersAkpafu: 6:15am On May 20
bemeruca:
You are mixing two different things. And budaatum also has this issue.

When I say education is already there, I am talking about formal education and access to information.

People know corruption is bad. They know tribalism, greed, selfishness, and disunity destroy societies.

This is not some hidden secret that only a university professor can explain.

The problem is not that people have never heard the truth. The problem is that many people know the truth and still choose the wrong thing when money, power, tribe, religion, or personal interest is involved.

See Emefiele as an example. He is not an illiterate man. He is educated, experienced, and had access to every economic expert, etc.

Yet what did that education produce when character, accountability, and national interest were missing?

So no, I am not contradicting myself.

Education can expose wrong thinking, but education alone does not fix character.

You can educate a greedy person and simply produce a smarter thief.

You can educate a tribalist and simply produce someone who justifies tribalism with better grammar.

My point is this - the deeper problem is mindset, culture, values, accountability, and unity.

Education helps, yes, but pretending education alone is the magic solution is shallow.

And when I push back on Deepsight blaming everything on white people, colonialism, or climate, that is also a form of education. I am challenging excuses, exposing weak arguments, and forcing him to confront internal failures.

So the issue is not left or right. The issue is whether we are honest enough to admit that our own choices, leaders, culture, greed, and disunity are major reasons for our problems.

So we have a culture of greed and selfishness in the country.
America has a president in power committing open air corruption

What separates him from the emefiele you are vilifying?

You think its black and white ?

There is undeniable evidence that the system of white supremacy and the interests it protects are VERY responsible for the state of Africa

You can reference internal failings, but an African who minimises the external influence should be ashamed
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GracieX3(f): 6:16am On May 20
bemeruca:
You are mixing two different things. And budaatum also has this issue.

When I say education is already there, I am talking about formal education and access to information.

People know corruption is bad. They know tribalism, greed, selfishness, and disunity destroy societies.

This is not some hidden secret that only a university professor can explain.

The problem is not that people have never heard the truth. The problem is that many people know the truth and still choose the wrong thing when money, power, tribe, religion, or personal interest is involved.

See Emefiele as an example. He is not an illiterate man. He is educated, experienced, and had access to every economic expert, etc.

Yet what did that education produce when character, accountability, and national interest were missing?

So no, I am not contradicting myself.

Education can expose wrong thinking, but education alone does not fix character.

You can educate a greedy person and simply produce a smarter thief.

You can educate a tribalist and simply produce someone who justifies tribalism with better grammar.

My point is this - the deeper problem is mindset, culture, values, accountability, and unity.

Education helps, yes, but pretending education alone is the magic solution is shallow.

And when I push back on Deepsight blaming everything on white people, colonialism, or climate, that is also a form of education. I am challenging excuses, exposing weak arguments, and forcing him to confront internal failures.

So the issue is not left or right. The issue is whether we are honest enough to admit that our own choices, leaders, culture, greed, and disunity are major reasons for our problems.

So we have a culture of greed and selfishness in the country.
Does this culture of greed extend to Trump? The 1.7 billion corrupt slush fund?

A billionaire president still enriching his family with us government contracts?

Trump doesn't need more money. His great grandchildren can't even be poor
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:17am On May 20
Israel as a nation was recognized in 1948. The Jews in Israel were called Palestinian Jews.
The present day Palestinians are just Arabs from Jordan, Egypt, Iraq, Syria etc. They are not distinct.
Before 1948, Palestine Post, Football club , Orchestra, coins etc were all Jewish.
This 1927 coin is in Hebrew.
Jerusalem has always had more Jews than Arabs.
When Europe chased it's Jewry away and is now replacing them with Muslims ,they joined their kith and kin in present day Israel.All Arab neighbors also chased away their Jews who found a home in Israel. Arab Jewish population declined to almost zero.
While the Palestinians facing genocide population has grown 1000% thanks to the pogrom.

Many Jews also settled in America .

Maybe you didn't know that history.

Fun fact. Since 1950s.
Africa has received more $2.6 Trillion in aid. Blacks in America have received $6 Trillion in aid.
Israel has received $300 billion in aid.



cococandy:
1) Now we agree they only came into existence in 1948?
We finally agree they’re not the rightful owners of the land they’re exterminating Palestinians for? I always knew you guys know right from wrong. You just sold your souls for nothing.

2) how many Africans countries have the backing of America to go and kill and conquer and pillage whomever they deem fit?
If we did, our GDPs would rivals Israel’s too!

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 6:18am On May 20
GracieX3:
Education is not already there
My point is that lack of education does not explain everything, especially today.

Education can improve awareness, but education alone does not fix corruption, bad leadership, broken families, crime, greed, tribalism, or destructive culture.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by RodgersAkpafu: 6:18am On May 20
GracieX3:
Does this culture of greed extend to Trump? The 1.7 billion corrupt slush fund?

A billionaire president still enriching his family with us government contracts?

Trump doesn't need more money. His great grandchildren can't even be poor
Leave am make he dey cap
2020 we saw white pigs storm the capitol

If that happened in Abuja, these guys would have been calling Africans names

But its excusable when white folks do it

These ones have gone far far
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GracieX3(f): 6:18am On May 20
RodgersAkpafu:
Dont mind all these people dealing with inferiority complex
#Uncle Ruckus vibes
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by RodgersAkpafu: 6:19am On May 20
bemeruca:
My point is that lack of education does not explain everything, especially today.

Education can improve awareness, but education alone does not fix corruption, bad leadership, broken families, crime, greed, tribalism, or destructive culture.
So education also cannot fix white racism, bigotry, fooolishnesss and white hate ?

Because why are supposed "educated" people on the Trump and the Reform UK bandwagon?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GracieX3(f): 6:20am On May 20
RodgersAkpafu:
Leave am make he dey cap
2020 we saw white pigs storm the capitol

If that happened in Abuja, these guys would have been calling Africans names

But its excusable when white folks do it

These ones have gone far far
They are truly shameless. They still defend January sixers despite many of the sixers still committing crimes after their pardons.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 6:23am On May 20
GracieX3:
Does this culture of greed extend to Trump? The 1.7 billion corrupt slush fund?

A billionaire president still enriching his family with us government contracts?

Trump doesn't need more money. His great grandchildren can't even be poor
Deflect to Trump
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GracieX3(f): 6:24am On May 20
basilico:
Israel as a nation was recognized in 1948. The Jews in Israel were called Palestinian Jews.
The present day Palestinians are just Arabs from Jordan, Egypt, Iraq, Syria etc.
Even in the Bible, there were other people apart from Jews that lived in that Area of Palestine. There were Arabs in Palestine before the formation of many Arab countries.

Palestine are also semitic. Jews ate not the only semitic people

Just be there capping rubbish.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GracieX3(f): 6:27am On May 20
bemeruca:
Deflect to Trump
You said Emefiele is greedy in order to bash blacks.

I pointed out thatt Trump is greedy....even greedier.

You ate now silenced to 3 words only. Just admit your cult worship and hypocrisy towards Trump
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 6:27am On May 20
RodgersAkpafu:
So education also cannot fix white racism, bigotry, fooolishnesss and white hate ?

Because why are supposed "educated" people on the Trump and the Reform UK bandwagon?
Education is not morality.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 6:29am On May 20
GracieX3:
You said Emefiele is greedy in order to bash blacks.

I pointed out thatt Trump is greedy....even greedier.

You ate now silenced to 3 words only. Just admit your cult worship and hypocrisy towards Trump
No, I am not bashing blacks.
I am talking about 60 years of failure to develop after independence you are deflecting to Trump.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GracieX3(f): 6:29am On May 20
bemeruca:
My point is that lack of education does not explain everything, especially today.

Education can improve awareness, but education alone does not fix corruption, bad leadership, broken families, crime, greed, tribalism, or destructive culture.
Education is the necessary first step and many generations of blacks in Mississippi didn't get it until recently due to racism and mismanagement.

Education is a critical factor
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GracieX3(f): 6:33am On May 20
bemeruca:
No, I am not bashing blacks.
I am talking about 60 years of failure to develop after independence you are deflecting to Trump.
The USA was formed in 1776. Black people got rights in 1964/1968.
It took USA over 180 years to get sense.

You expect Nigeria to do miracles in 60 years
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 6:35am On May 20
GracieX3:
The USA was formed in 1776. Black people got rights in 1964/1968.
It took USA over 180 years to get sense.

You expect Nigeria to do miracles in 60 years
Irrelevant to what we are talking.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GracieX3(f): 6:39am On May 20
bemeruca:
Irrelevant to what we are talking.
Very relevant to your inferiority complex and worship of the West.

Even as bad as Nigeria is, I would never look down on my fellow blacks just to worship whites in the west
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by RodgersAkpafu: 6:53am On May 20
bemeruca:
Education is not morality.
Na wa lol grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 7:01am On May 20
GracieX3:
Very relevant to your inferiority complex and worship of the West.

Even as bad as Nigeria is, I would never look down on my fellow blacks just to worship whites in the west
I don't know what you Re talking about.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 7:01am On May 20
RodgersAkpafu:
America has a president in power committing open air corruption

What separates him from the emefiele you are vilifying?

You think its black and white ?

There is undeniable evidence that the system of white supremacy and the interests it protects are VERY responsible for the state of Africa

You can reference internal failings, but an African who minimises the external influence should be ashamed
I tire. The guy talks like greed is a unique black African trait.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 7:02am On May 20
GracieX3:
The USA was formed in 1776. Black people got rights in 1964/1968.
It took USA over 180 years to get sense.

You expect Nigeria to do miracles in 60 years
Phew! Thank you!
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