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DeepSight:
There are mischaracterizations here, but I don't see the point in debating a position that says black people have never done anything positive and never will.

That is too extremist a position to debate.

The debate pivots on cultural milieu and how it will shift to drive the necessary transition to a fully-fledged, sustainable modernity. The extremity is all yours - which I cautioned against in my very first rejoinder.

I am gracious enough to allow your reverse ferret without crowing .

Godspeed


TV

tctrills:
DeepSight, I told you, you leftists never fail. This is liberal hive mind.
You all are clones of eachother.

See this one..

Your family thinks they have a son or Father or Cousin that has sense.

Not knowing they are related to a Trump worshipper.. related to one who worships a grifter, felon and a sex offender as his god and personal savior.

Tufiakwa.. I pity those related to you.

bayelsaowei:
See this one..

Your family thinks they have a son or Father or Cousin that has sense.

Not knowing they are related to a Trump worshipper.. related to one who worships a grifter, felon and a sex offender as his god and personal savior.

Tufiakwa.. I pity those related to you.

The funny left
Did Deepsight not tell you that insults don't get to me?
But then what is the left without their shaming and tantrums.

We expect this level of foolishness from you

tctrills:
The funny left
Did Deepsight not tell you that insults don't get to me?
But then what is the left without their shaming and tantrums.

We expect this level of foolishness from you

You are like Donald Trump.. insults don’t get to you but then when you look in the mirror it only tells you the kind of vile human being you are.

Rubbish!!!

F

bayelsaowei:
You are like Donald Trump.. insults don’t get to you but then when you look in the mirror it only tells you the kind of vile human being you are.

Rubbish!!!

Ok we have heard you my boy. You hate Trump too much we understand

tctrills:
Defend your position first nah.i have already promised to answer. Lol

Bro you LIED. We cannot leave your lie then go on. You want to communicate? Don't LIE.

bayelsaowei:
You are like Donald Trump.. insults don’t get to you but then when you look in the mirror it only tells you the kind of vile human being you are.

Rubbish!!!

I feel slimy and unclean with each interaction with the fella.

TV01:
The debate pivots on cultural milieu and how it will shift to drive the necessary transition to a fully-fledged, sustainable modernity. The extremity is all yours - which I cautioned against in my very first rejoinder.

I am gracious enough to allow your reverse ferret without crowing .

Godspeed


TV

I didnt breach terms. You kept accusing me of doing so, but I didnt.
At all events you will agree that what you are saying is too extremist to engage with.

LordReed:
Bro you LIED. We cannot leave your lie then go on. You want to communicate? Don't LIE.

You will have your time to prove if I lied but first answer my question or rest

tctrills:
You will have your time to prove if I lied but first answer my question or rest

No bro we ain't leaving your LIE.

tctrills:
Yes oh, the mighty DeepSight.
The hulk.
This thread is now for praise singing.

Great is your strength the mighty DeepSight
Slayer of lions

We can see his intellectual prowess unlike you who needs lies to try to win arguments.

DeepSight:
You are not thinking deeply.

You talk about culture as though it came from nowhere.

Look, people who live in a place where the land will freeze for half the year will necessarily invent methods of both heat and preservation and will be forced into an organized lifestyle and efficient methods as a matter of survival as opposed to people with fertile land and clement weather all year round.

The weather curse theory, or rather, the theory of not having to sweat for ones daily bread because it can so easily be plucked off a tree.

It kind of supports those who blame social payments to the poor, when I think of it. Because, if they are given free money they wouldn't need to sweat to eat. But then, we mustn't let them starve because they are poor and rely on social cheques that make them lazy too.

Not all welfare receivers are black or lazy, note! Maga is full of such people too.

bemeruca:
Buhari failed because his anti-corruption war was selective, political, incompetent, and did not produce better governance.

Sounds pretty much like dump's doge failure too.

raumdeuter:
While they are true
Why has environment and necessity not worked in our favor in Africa to create inventions and prosperous lifestyle?

Those who live in the land of plenty in Eden do not need to sweat for their daily bread or "create inventions and prosperous lifestyle". They must first eat the forbidden fruit of knowledge to be cursed to sweat from their own brow for their own food.

Damn! I must sound like I'm advocating for the elimination of welfare. I'm not. It just needs to be conditional. Like bad grades of children at school could mean less money, but I wouldn't want that neither least the kids starve.

raumdeuter:
Accountability and personal responsibility is....

There! Make welfare recipients accountable and personally responsible.

But I can't see how black Americans can be accountable and responsible for the consequences of slavery and continued discrimination they have faced.

Or is it your claim that slavery and continued discrimination are not amongst the things that keep them down?

If so, you should watch Sarah's Oil.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcEOKJm_aLY?si=UL0RRp1glrSe3buc

DeepSight:
Very good that you admit those statements are true.

It's not hard to decipher. It's as simple as saying that someone in hot weather will have darker skin and someone in cold weather will have lighter skin.

And should therefore be poorer, and unaccountable, and irresponsible?

Not that I'm suggesting that black Americans and people are unaccountable and irresponsible, note.

raumdeuter:
Concrete thing 1. STay with the woman you impregnate

Ben. Hear!

tctrills:
Trump has taking more bullets than most soldiers in US history
And he has survived more hate that attacks than also every politician in US history. He is still standing.
That's what I call courage

Kai....so all this while, I didn't know that you have been zombified!!!! You have submitted your brain to the altar of Trump's shine at MAGA cult headquarters.

budaatum:
And should therefore be poorer, and unaccountable, and irresponsible?

Not that I'm suggesting that black Americans and people are unaccountable and irresponsible, note.

I made that statement just to show that the environment has consequences because the way the other side were going here, it would seem that they believed not even skin color could be the effect of the environment. They speak as though it has zero impact.

DeepSight:
My people come and see another one oh.

Cococandy, Ijebos, LordReed, bayelsowei

You're giving him oxygen.
He's laundering his nonsense through you. Using you to give him relevency.

DeepSight:
Preponderantly. One cannot over estimate for example, the amount of innovations WW2 ushered in. We have that war to thank for even the internet we are using.

So, competition for resources is innovative. And with Africa being so lush and vast and not so condensed, we didn't need to innovate till later than more densely packed Europeans had to.

I guess we have our own war against insecurity, and 'Tinubu' increasing the cost of resources, so Nigeria will innovate and be great one day.

My, 'Tinubu', is to hedge against claims that the increase in cost of resource is not only his fault.

Vote for Obi!

GracieX3:
Lol.... i remember how they didn't even answer or criticise the wealth that white south Africans gathered from apartheid- majority of the farmland and big businesses....

They'd expect the black South African to compete equally with those who have already cornered the financial capital.

I reckon, if South Africa were USA, some here would be telling us white libtards are lying to the black people that foreigners are taking their women and their jobs, and the solution is dubula.

GracieX3:
Kai....so all this while, I didn't know that you have been zombified!!!! You have submitted your brain to the altar of Trump's shine at MAGA cult headquarters.

Ok, I like Trump and you love Obama but I am the zombie.
Leftist

DeepSight:
I made that statement just to show that the environment has consequences because the way the other side were going here, it would seem that they believed not even skin color could be the effect of the environment. They speak as though it has zero impact.

I was just being provocative. I know you meant loads more than that since you said it already.

raumdeuter:
How many generations does it take to keep the family together? Even during the worst period for blacks, their families stayed together

I think the worst period for blacks in USA was when master could wake up one morning and split families to sell to different buyers to pay off debt.

When was your worst period for blacks?

tctrills:
Ok, I like Trump and you love Obama but I am the zombie.
Leftist

Unlike you, I am not f4cktarded enough to love any politician.

Obama had his flaws as president. But Trump is a super corrupt final boss of corruption in comparison!

raumdeuter:
60yrs ago and beyond at the worst times for American blacks they stayed with their women ....

Aha. 60 years ago is your "worst times for American blacks"?

That's interesting, as 60 years ago is when American blacks were fighting for their emancipatory rights that new black migrants are now benefitting from.

tctrills:
No, you are wrong but then, let me use your analogy.
Choices we make at puberty affects our adulthood.
So if a girl chooses to become pregnant and become a mother of 4 in her teen years, would you be surprised if she doesn't complete school?
So what choices are we are a race making now in our puberty?

How about choices made before you were born, do they not affect the entire existence of a person?

Most girls do not choose to become pregnant in their teens, and those who do are misdirected, most often by a preying perverted adult who has no intention to stay and nurture the kids he spawns. We got one here intending to impregnate 5 teens, because, apparently, it's legal.

DEEPSIGHT, Budaatum, cococandy, Ijebos, lordreed...


I am not religious but im starting to feel like there is something demonic possessing these MAGA cultists to support whatever corrupt nonsense Trump does. Apart from that,how can someone hate their own black skin.

This fooolishness is supernatural. Even atheist me sef dey hold rosary!!

tctrills:
One way we are working to change things oga is by taking responsibility and not looking for others to blame. You can try it.

Reminds me of my favourite song.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv5xonFSC4c?si=PA1sbez-ITTMBI6y

While I agree we should not just be blaming the past, it is essential that one understands where we came from to know how to get where we want to.

And on that note, i blame my eyes for being tired and not letting me read further. I'll let them rest a bit and see if we want to.

tctrills:
He is calling for backup. Lol

As I said, I completely understand you.
The big media noise on January 6th and the way your politicians keep reminding you has trained your brain to believe it's the worst day of your life.
But that's what Fella calls zombie.

Look at the data?
Look at the level of destruction?
Then come back and let's have this discussion

Too many people spend their lives reading and repeating Republican wingnut propaganda.

This was this thread live while the Capital was being breached.
https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-trump-47th/1848

Mostly everyone who saw it live, including me, understood the historic ramifications, that this was then first time since the US's founding, there was not a peaceful transition of power.
Given that the peaceful transition of power is a bedrock of democracy thus one of our founding principles, yes, it was/is a very very big deal.

But of course, that you read about years later, you clearly have a better understanding.
And I forgot, of course, you understand the US culture better than anyone.

GracieX3:
DEEPSIGHT, Budaatum, cococandy, Ijebos, lordreed...


I am not religious but im starting to feel like there is something demonic possessing these MAGA cultists to support whatever corrupt nonsense Trump does. Apart from that,how can someone hate their own black skin.

This fooolishness is supernatural. Even atheist me sef dey hold rosary!!

Seriously, the phenomenon is something that thinking people have to pause and ponder on. It never fails to startle me.

I can understand a person who simply says that he likes or prefers Trump, or agrees with much of his policies. I mean, not that I see eye to eye with that, but I can understand that to the extent that we are all different. What I cannot get is the absolute worship. The fact that Trump can literally never be wrong. The fact that every word he utters is the living light and gospel truth to them.

I have had to dig up many thoughts on human nature in this regard. And this morning I was just repeating to myself for the umpteenth time that it's just a human thing. After all, billions of people call a Jewish man the creator of the world in the name of religion. Two billion people believe that every word Muhammad uttered was the truth. And many others believe every word that falls from the lips of one religious leader or the other. So perhaps it's just human nature.

Trump has attained deity status in the minds of many people and it's truly creepy. We often joke about the lengths that they would go for him but it is no joke. There are many here who would abandon their family for Trump.

And even though I don't believe in religion either, this phenomenon helps me see that if there were such a thing as the Anti Christ, it would be so very easy for him to be accepted by even Christians. So easy.