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Re: The Bible Has Been Changed, Translated, And Edited For Centuries… So What Are Pe by dofman: 9:01pm On May 26
Broadcast speaker 🔈


Hello all pagans in the house ,

As you know tomorrow is one of the important festival , therefore , I will declare 10 days holiday for this celebration. I will not be in social media for the next 10 days as I will be celebrating the holy festival.

You guys knew I used to give breaks only during festival time in Islam including Ramadan .


Eid Mubarak !
May Allah fill our heart with happiness, mercy, and countless blessings on this blessed Eid al-Kabir. May he open the hearts of those who have not yet known Him, so they may find the beauty of Islam and walk in His righteous path. Wishing you and your loved ones joy, good health, and prosperity always.


I will be back here on the June 5th Friday , 2026, In Sha Allah by 7:00pm .

You guys can be sleeping in nairaland and refreshing the pages till I resume work with you guys .

Stay blessed and stay away from troubles . 👌

Re: The Bible Has Been Changed, Translated, And Edited For Centuries… So What Are Pe by AntiisIam(m): 3:37am On May 27
dofman:
🤣🤣🤣 Libya boy japa ahaaaa
Sule, shey your imam don tell you wetin I talk
Re: The Bible Has Been Changed, Translated, And Edited For Centuries… So What Are Pe by AntiisIam(m): 3:39am On May 27
dofman:
Kininwi bayi 🤣🤣

Go bring new person , your senior you brought has bitten the grass as usual ahaaa.

E don cast
Depe, anyone tiko ba ye e, bi google leere or ko bi chief imam ahamo Libya leere sogbo Sule
Re: The Bible Has Been Changed, Translated, And Edited For Centuries… So What Are Pe by AntiisIam(m): 3:41am On May 27
dofman:
Help your senior nah . He don cast as usual 🤣
Sule goan face your warrant
Re: The Bible Has Been Changed, Translated, And Edited For Centuries… So What Are Pe by Expanse2020(m): 10:43am On May 27
AntiisIam:
Sule, shey you lack comprehensive skills nii?

It was reported that they saw your anobi kissing black stone of kaaba, so him Umar also kissed it. Depe, is English your problem again nii?
So after he kiss it ..then what does he said next...
I beg tell us here 😁😁😁
Re: The Bible Has Been Changed, Translated, And Edited For Centuries… So What Are Pe by Expanse2020(m): 10:56am On May 27
SIRTeee15:
Muslims are funny creatures

So u bow towards the KABBA- but not the black stone. Is that what u saying.
Is kabba a black stone... That is the question.. so I may know where to start the lesson for you 🤣🤣

Are u saying it's ok as a Muslim to bow before the kabba- a house once filled with pagan idols. [/b]were
the idols worshipper the foundation of the place that is the question

[b]So if u guys don't bow to the black stone, why do u then kiss it. Why do u revere the black stone. Is kabba the house of God that u should bow before it?

So facing kabba ti pray does that mean we pray to stone to you another question for you

Muslims are confused !!!! They are even ashamed of their own religion.

We all know those who are confused, those that part of them goes to isreali and other part go to Rome but both end up being bowing down like Muslims in their various synagogues

Expanse vow that if u travel for pilgrimage u will never kiss the stone!!!!!
Why would I never kissed when my beloved prophet s.a.w did that
We are not some other people in one religion that leave what thier God said and do what they desire
Re: The Bible Has Been Changed, Translated, And Edited For Centuries… So What Are Pe by Expanse2020(m): 11:09am On May 27
AntiisIam:
Depe, who will now help you like this?

Expanse2020 self don enter koye yin mo mode
Happy Eid Mubarak brother
One love
🙌
antichristian
Doffman

Congratulations too us antiislam our brothers did Arafat yesterday
Over 2.9M people and still counting....
Dem no born any other religion to pull that...
Bowing down to the lord of the universe
Allahu Akbar
Allahu Akbar
Allahu Akbar
Wa Lillah liamd

Taqqaballahu wa mink
May Almighty Allah accept it as ibadat for us
Ameen

antiislam where you want collect your meat now
Someone will be in pain now seeing Muslims in Arafat yesterday and seeing is today going and coming from IED ground
See the picture below
Tears of joy from here...
But for some ppl tears of sorrow nii

Sirtee
Antiislam

Re: The Bible Has Been Changed, Translated, And Edited For Centuries… So What Are Pe by SIRTee15: 5:01pm On May 27
dofman:
Christian lies a a lot . Chai

You have been bursted already nah . Stone is powerless and it can never forgive anyone . I have lectured you about that nah .


Maybe you are talking about your god’s powerless blood .

Hebrews 9:22 : "without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.


My only question still stands :


Defend yourself and tell us where Muslims were instructed to worship stone

No story o 🤣
show me where I said Muslims worship a stone. when u are ready to answer my question, u respond to the correct question I asked not the one u created.
Re: The Bible Has Been Changed, Translated, And Edited For Centuries… So What Are Pe by SIRTee15: 5:02pm On May 27
Expanse2020:
Why would I never kissed when my beloved prophet s.a.w did that
We are not some other people in one religion that leave what thier God said and do what they desire
Guy this is idolatry

if I have doubt b4, u and doffman response to my query remove all doubt.

U guys came here and argued u bow to kabba and not the stone. that the stone has no significance in your worship of Allah
But doffman said the stone and the kabba can never be separated- THEY ARE ONE. Yet in his mind when he bows to kabba, he's not bowing to the stone.
Now u came here and said u will lick the stvne- stone u called insignificant.

Let me tell u something about my question - When God told Moses to tell the Israelites not to copy the cannanites buy bowing to stone. The cannanites actually don't worship the stone. They worship Asherah, the cannanite goddess. But they worship this goddess by bowing to sacred stones.
That is why God told Moses that Israelites should not copy their practice by bowing to a stone when worshipping HIM.

YOU MUSLIMS BOW TO A STONE WHEN WORSHIPPING ALLAH. SOMETHING HE TOLD MOSES THE PEOPLE SHOULD NEVER TO DO because HE HATES IT.

There's only one word for this and its called paganism mixed with idolatry. IF U KNOW WHAT'S GOOD FOR U, U WILL RUN FOR YOUR LIFE B4 U END UP IN HELL FIRE.

God cannot be mocked, u are only deceiving yourselves. obedience is better than sacrifice. If God say dont bow down before a stone, common sense will tell u to run away from anything related to stone. anything at all.

Finally, u can redeem your own case by answering this simple question. this will show if u are a certified, recalcitrant and unrepentant pvgan.
doffman is lost already, I doubt there's hope for him.

IF THE KABBA IS DISMANTLED AND RELOCATED TO MEDINA BUT THE BLACK STONE REMAIN INTACT IN MECCA.
WHERE WILL U BOW TO WHEN PRAYING, MECCA OR MEDINA?

Expanse2020 IF THE KABBA IS DISMANTLED IN MECCA AND REASSEMBLED IN MEDINA. BUT THE BLACK STONE REMAINED IN MECCA. WHICH DIRECTION WOULD U NOW FACE WHEN PRAYING.
MEDINA OR MECCA.
Re: The Bible Has Been Changed, Translated, And Edited For Centuries… So What Are Pe by AntiisIam(m): 5:21pm On May 27
Expanse2020:
Happy Eid Mubarak brother
One love
🙌
antichristian
Doffman

Congratulations too us antiislam our brothers did Arafat yesterday
Over 2.9M people and still counting....
Dem no born any other religion to pull that...
Bowing down to the lord of the universe
Allahu Akbar
Allahu Akbar
Allahu Akbar
Wa Lillah liamd

Taqqaballahu wa mink
May Almighty Allah accept it as ibadat for us
Ameen

antiislam where you want collect your meat now
Someone will be in pain now seeing Muslims in Arafat yesterday and seeing is today going and coming from IED ground
See the picture below
Tears of joy from here...
But for some ppl tears of sorrow nii

Sire
Antiis
Where does allah in quran or from your authentic hadith tell you muslims to celebrate test of faith on Abraham for him?
Re: The Bible Has Been Changed, Translated, And Edited For Centuries… So What Are Pe by Expanse2020(m): 5:48pm On May 27
AntiisIam:
Where does allah in quran or from your authentic hadith tell you muslims to celebrate test of faith on Abraham for him?
I taught you know Quran and Hadiths... Did you need to asked this Abi if we call you olodo naw . U ge de argued from keyboard...

Abi you don't see one of the earlier post today where the prophet say Allah has given you two Eid (festival) Eid hadia wa Eid ilfitr
Ignorant at pick
Lakum di nukum waliyadii..,🤣🤣🤣
Re: The Bible Has Been Changed, Translated, And Edited For Centuries… So What Are Pe by Expanse2020(m): 5:51pm On May 27
SIRTee15:
Guy this is idolatry

if I have doubt b4, u and doffman response to my query remove all doubt.

U guys came here and argued u bow to kabba and not the stone. that the stone has no significance in your worship of Allah
But doffman said the stone and the kabba can never be separated- THEY ARE ONE. Yet in his mind when he bows to kabba, he's not bowing to the stone.
Now u came here and said u will lick the stvne- stone u called insignificant.

Let me tell u something about my question - When God told Moses to tell the Israelites not to copy the cannanites buy bowing to stone. The cannanites actually don't worship the stone. They worship Asherah, the cannanite goddess. But they worship this goddess by bowing to sacred stones.
That is why God told Moses that Israelites should not copy their practice by bowing to a stone when worshipping HIM.

YOU MUSLIMS BOW TO A STONE WHEN WORSHIPPING ALLAH. SOMETHING HE TOLD MOSES THE PEOPLE SHOULD NEVER TO DO because HE HATES IT.

There's only one word for this and its called paganism mixed with idolatry. IF U KNOW WHAT'S GOOD FOR U, U WILL RUN FOR YOUR LIFE B4 U END UP IN HELL FIRE.

God cannot be mocked, u are only deceiving yourselves. obedience is better than sacrifice. If God say dont bow down before a stone, common sense will tell u to run away from anything related to stone. anything at all.

Finally, u can redeem your own case by answering this simple question. this will show if u are a certified, recalcitrant and unrepentant pvgan.
doffman is lost already, I doubt there's hope for him.

IF THE KABBA IS DISMANTLED AND RELOCATED TO MEDINA BUT THE BLACK STONE REMAIN INTACT IN MECCA.
WHERE WILL U BOW TO WHEN PRAYING, MECCA OR MEDINA?

Expanse2020 IF THE KABBA IS DISMANTLED IN MECCA AND REASSEMBLED IN MEDINA. BUT THE BLACK STONE REMAINED IN MECCA. WHICH DIRECTION WOULD U NOW FACE WHEN PRAYING.
MEDINA OR MECCA.
Dismantle it first and see where will face if it change or not...
I hear said Jews to worship stone
They face stone
They kiss stone
Is it true
Re: The Bible Has Been Changed, Translated, And Edited For Centuries… So What Are Pe by AntiisIam(m): 6:01pm On May 27
Expanse2020:
I taught you know Quran and Hadiths... Did you need to asked this Abi if we call you olodo naw . U ge de argued from keyboard...

Abi you don't see one of the earlier post today where the prophet say Allah has given you two Eid (festival) Eid hadia wa Eid ilfitr
Ignorant at pick
Lakum di nukum waliyadii..,🤣🤣🤣
Sule, you don start again abi

Show where it is written inside your quran or your hoely hadith seh
Re: The Bible Has Been Changed, Translated, And Edited For Centuries… So What Are Pe by AntiisIam(m): 6:01pm On May 27
Expanse2020:
Happy Eid Mubarak brother
One love
🙌
antichristian
Doffman

Congratulations too us antiislam our brothers did Arafat yesterday
Over 2.9M people and still counting....
Dem no born any other religion to pull that...
Bowing down to the lord of the universe
Allahu Akbar
Allahu Akbar
Allahu Akbar
Wa Lillah liamd

Taqqaballahu wa mink
May Almighty Allah accept it as ibadat for us
Ameen

antiam where you want collect your meat now
Someone will be in pain now seeing Muslims in Arafat yesterday and seeing is today going and coming from IED ground
See the picture below
Tears of joy from here...
But for some ppl tears of sorrow nii

Sir
Antiisl
So 2.9M bought stones to throw at sheytan, to circling the shrine of Kaaba and to kiss the black stone abi? You are doing well in Islam, you are no. 1 in anything elebo, no other elebo can pull this number looto as you said
Re: The Bible Has Been Changed, Translated, And Edited For Centuries… So What Are Pe by Expanse2020(m): 6:52pm On May 27
AntiisIam:
So 2.9M bought stones to throw at sheytan, to circling the shrine of Kaaba and to kiss the black stone abi? You are doing well in Islam, you are no. 1 in anything elebo, no other elebo can pull this number looto as you said
If it is ẹbọ million of ppl we not gather there across globe ..

Not like someone religion where some goes to Italy and other goes to isreal and head up bowing like us 🥱🥱 the day when you go to isreali your eyes will clear wa🤣🤣🤣
Re: The Bible Has Been Changed, Translated, And Edited For Centuries… So What Are Pe by Expanse2020(m): 6:54pm On May 27
AntiisIam:
Sule, you don start again abi

Show where it is written inside your quran or your hoely hadith seh
Are you aware what our father do to praise the Almighty Allah we are doing there 🤣🤣🤣
We don't sacrifices human rather than animal
Re: The Bible Has Been Changed, Translated, And Edited For Centuries… So What Are Pe by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:08pm On May 27
Theawakensoul:
Nobody possesses the original writings of:
👉 Moses
👉 Isaiah
👉 Paul
👉 Matthew
👉 John
Wisdom is what you needed not stories because the scriptures passed through many stages doesn't mean it has been completely altered.
To find out if the truth in God's word has been changed the first thing you should figure out is whether the purpose for which the message was sent has been achieved.
If the purpose has been achieved then the group or organization achieving the purpose has the complete message otherwise they can't get the perfect result through the use of incomplete message! Matthew 7:16-18🙂
Re: The Bible Has Been Changed, Translated, And Edited For Centuries… So What Are Pe by AntiisIam(m): 8:58pm On May 27
Expanse2020:
Are you aware what our father do to praise the Almighty Allah we are doing there 🤣🤣🤣
We don't sacrifices human rather than animal
Even your number 1 slve in Nigeria, the sultan of Sokoto can't answer the question

Na dis atamo-atamo you will be saying

So no where allah commanded you muslims to celebrate test of faith on Abraham for him. Sule shey you see what we are saying now, odun eebo, odun ileya
Re: The Bible Has Been Changed, Translated, And Edited For Centuries… So What Are Pe by AntiisIam(m): 9:01pm On May 27
Expanse2020:
If it is ẹbọ million of ppl we not gather there across globe ..

Not like someone religion where some goes to Italy and other goes to isreal and head up bowing like us 🥱🥱 the day when you go to isreali your eyes will clear wa🤣🤣🤣
Sule listen, if billion of people are doing a wrong thing, that doesn't make it right and if just threw people are doing the right thing, that doesn't make it wrong

Odun ileya is confirmed odun elebo, allah never commanded you anywhere in quran and hadith to be celebrating the test of faith on Abraham for him. So why doing what has no background in quran and hadith
Re: The Bible Has Been Changed, Translated, And Edited For Centuries… So What Are Pe by Theawakensoul(op): 11:10pm On May 27
MaxInDHouse:
Wisdom is what you needed not stories because the scriptures passed through many stages doesn't mean it has been completely altered.
To find out if the truth in God's word has been changed the first thing you should figure out is whether the purpose for which the message was sent has been achieved.
If the purpose has been achieved then the group or organization achieving the purpose has the complete message otherwise they can't get the perfect result through the use of incomplete message! Matthew 7:16-18🙂
You actually raised an interesting point.
And honestly, I partially agree with you.

Yes…
the fact that a text passed through history does NOT automatically mean:
👉 it became completely false
👉 or lost all wisdom.
That would be an exaggerated conclusion.

Human beings can still preserve:
👉 ideas
👉 teachings
👉 wisdom
👉 philosophy
👉 and spiritual insight
across generations.

I acknowledge that.

But I think there’s an important distinction we must make carefully:
preserving a GENERAL MESSAGE
is not the same thing as preserving EVERY DETAIL perfectly and untouched.

Those are two different claims.

For example:
A teaching can still inspire millions…
while also having:
👉 translation variations
👉 editorial influence
👉 political shaping
👉 interpretational layers
👉 and institutional modifications across centuries.

Those realities are not mutually exclusive.


Now regarding your point about:
👉 the purpose being achieved.

That sounds reasonable at first…
but it also raises deeper questions.

Because many religions claim:
👉 transformed lives
👉 moral improvement
👉 spiritual results
👉 miracles
👉 purpose
👉 and fulfilled destinies.

Christians say it.
Muslims say it.
Hindus say it.
Buddhists say it.

Even philosophies outside religion have transformed lives.

So if “positive results” alone prove absolute preservation or ultimate truth…

then multiple contradictory systems would all become equally and fully true at the same time.

And that becomes philosophically difficult.


Also, human transformation itself does not necessarily prove:
👉 textual perfection.

People can grow through:
👉 wisdom
👉 meaning
👉 discipline
👉 meditation
👉 love
👉 purpose
👉 community
👉 psychological conviction
👉 and deep belief.

Even imperfect systems can still produce meaningful experiences.

That is part of human consciousness itself.


And honestly…

I think questioning preservation is not an attack on spirituality.

It’s simply intellectual honesty.

Because historically, we KNOW:
👉 manuscripts differ
👉 translations differ
👉 canon selections happened over time
👉 scribes made edits
👉 some verses were later additions
👉 interpretations evolved across centuries

Most serious biblical scholars openly acknowledge this today.

That does not automatically destroy all value in scripture.

But it DOES challenge the idea that every word dropped from heaven untouched by history.


And maybe that’s where wisdom is truly needed:
Not blind rejection…
and not blind acceptance either.

But mature investigation.

Because truth should not fear examination.

If something is genuinely divine…
honest questions should not destroy it.

In fact, they may deepen understanding.

I AM - THE AWAKEN SOUL (TAS)
QUESTIONING EVERYTHING 🌿
Re: The Bible Has Been Changed, Translated, And Edited For Centuries… So What Are Pe by SIRTeee15: 3:01am On May 28
Expanse2020:
Dismantle it first and see where will face if it change or not...
I hear said Jews to worship stone
They face stone
They kiss stone
Is it true
answer my question. I'm not jewish, look for somvinya and ask him your jewish question.

kabba has been demolished b4, so dont tell me it cannot be disassembled.

IF THE KABBA IS DISMANTLED AND RELOCATED TO MEDINA BUT THE BLACK STONE REMAIN INTACT IN MECCA.
WHERE WILL U BOW TO WHEN PRAYING, MECCA OR MEDINA?

Expanse2020 IF THE KABBA IS DISMANTLED IN MECCA AND REASSEMBLED IN MEDINA. BUT THE BLACK STONE REMAINED IN MECCA. WHICH DIRECTION WOULD U NOW FACE WHEN PRAYING.
MEDINA OR MECCA.

WHY DO U BOW TO A STONE WHEN WORSHIPPING ALLAH WHEN HE ALREADY TOLD PREVIOUS PROPHETS NEVER TO BOW TO A STONE WHEN WORSHIPPING HIM.

answer the question otherwise u guys are idolaters, nothing more to say. It is what it is.
Re: The Bible Has Been Changed, Translated, And Edited For Centuries… So What Are Pe by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:39am On May 28
What is God's purpose for sending this message?

That's the question you need to answer first before thinking about imperfection of the receivers.

Has that purpose being met?


You are misconstruing everything by looking at different religions altogether instead of focusing on the most important thing.
The aim of the Author of the Bible!
Theawakensoul:
You actually raised an interesting point.
And honestly, I partially agree with you.

Yes…
the fact that a text passed through history does NOT automatically mean:
👉 it became completely false
👉 or lost all wisdom.
That would be an exaggerated conclusion.

Human beings can still preserve:
👉 ideas
👉 teachings
👉 wisdom
👉 philosophy
👉 and spiritual insight
across generations.

I acknowledge that.

But I think there’s an important distinction we must make carefully:
preserving a GENERAL MESSAGE
is not the same thing as preserving EVERY DETAIL perfectly and untouched.

Those are two different claims.

For example:
A teaching can still inspire millions…
while also having:
👉 translation variations
👉 editorial influence
👉 political shaping
👉 interpretational layers
👉 and institutional modifications across centuries.

Those realities are not mutually exclusive.


Now regarding your point about:
👉 the purpose being achieved.

That sounds reasonable at first…
but it also raises deeper questions.

Because many religions claim:
👉 transformed lives
👉 moral improvement
👉 spiritual results
👉 miracles
👉 purpose
👉 and fulfilled destinies.

Christians say it.
Muslims say it.
Hindus say it.
Buddhists say it.

Even philosophies outside religion have transformed lives.

So if “positive results” alone prove absolute preservation or ultimate truth…

then multiple contradictory systems would all become equally and fully true at the same time.

And that becomes philosophically difficult.


Also, human transformation itself does not necessarily prove:
👉 textual perfection.

People can grow through:
👉 wisdom
👉 meaning
👉 discipline
👉 meditation
👉 love
👉 purpose
👉 community
👉 psychological conviction
👉 and deep belief.

Even imperfect systems can still produce meaningful experiences.

That is part of human consciousness itself.


And honestly…

I think questioning preservation is not an attack on spirituality.

It’s simply intellectual honesty.

Because historically, we KNOW:
👉 manuscripts differ
👉 translations differ
👉 canon selections happened over time
👉 scribes made edits
👉 some verses were later additions
👉 interpretations evolved across centuries

Most serious biblical scholars openly acknowledge this today.

That does not automatically destroy all value in scripture.

But it DOES challenge the idea that every word dropped from heaven untouched by history.


And maybe that’s where wisdom is truly needed:
Not blind rejection…
and not blind acceptance either.

But mature investigation.

Because truth should not fear examination.

If something is genuinely divine…
honest questions should not destroy it.

In fact, they may deepen understanding.

I AM - THE AWAKEN SOUL (TAS)
QUESTIONING EVERYTHING 🌿
Re: The Bible Has Been Changed, Translated, And Edited For Centuries… So What Are Pe by Expanse2020(m): 10:35am On May 28
I
AntiisIam:
Sule, you don start again abi

Show where it is written inside your quran or your hoely hadith seh
Those one we show you before...
Na ranting end am
You go still rant na ni
Re: The Bible Has Been Changed, Translated, And Edited For Centuries… So What Are Pe by Expanse2020(m): 10:37am On May 28
AntiisIam:
So 2.9M bought stones to throw at sheytan, to circling the shrine of Kaaba and to kiss the black stone abi? You are doing well in Islam, you are no. 1 in anything elebo, no other elebo can pull this number looto as you said
Where are you going for your own tourism 🥱🥱🥱😁😁😁😁
Isreal of Rome
Abi Ukraine,🤣🤣🤣
Re: The Bible Has Been Changed, Translated, And Edited For Centuries… So What Are Pe by Expanse2020(m): 10:40am On May 28
AntiisIam:
Even your number 1 slve in Nigeria, the sultan of Sokoto can't answer the question

Na dis atamo-atamo you will be saying

So no where allah commanded you muslims to celebrate test of faith on Abraham for him. Sule shey you see what we are saying now, odun eebo, odun ileya
Chaiii
Ignorant is disease
All what is Islam start from the originator to his prophets....he did it

Not some ppl come and think to start doing Rome idol festive
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