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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:35am On Jun 01
bayelsaowei. Let me explain why January 6; happened.

In 1960 JFK was already the winner against Nixon.. Nixon challenged Hawaii votes claiming he won thethere. A court ordered recount was underway on the day of Vote certification by joint Congress and Senate . Hawaii sent two sets of electors Incase it turned out that certified electoral votes belonged to Nixon. No crime there at all

iIn 2020 ,5 states had objections as to the vote. Trump under legal advice did the same as 1960. He organized a slate of alternate electors in 5 states despite judges having refused to hear any of his 63 petition. Georgia was the exemption. A judge had conveniently set hearing on January 8. The judge immediately threw out the case because it was now moot.

On Jan 6 ,objections were to be raised and discussed for 2 hours each . Each house wa to then vote on the merits of the objection. In all petitions judges had blocked any hearing ,discovery or presentation to the public of the electoral malfeasances. On Jan 6 , the objections and evidence would have been debated on Live TV session. Five states each 2 hours. 10 hours of live broadcast enumeration of what the media refused to cover instead discrediting every claim.
Pence as President temporore was the presiding head of Joint proceedings. He had the power to decide that the issues raised were worthy and send the electors of the five swing states back to properly determine the real winner in those battleground states. This was to be a maximum of days.

The only way these objections would not be heard ,debated and voted upon would be if the Joint session reverted to an emergency session . In an emergency session Pence had no powers to allow for objections.

The first objection had been raised by 1.10 pm . Suddenly an aide walked and whispered to Pelosi about the discovery of a pipe bomb. Pelosi immediately adjourned the proceedings .
At exactly the same time Ray Epps whispered into this guy's ear who then proceeded to remove the barricades and the crowd moved in.
If the discovery of the pipe bomb didn't stop the proceedings ,Ray Epps move would have


After congress and Senate resumed under Emergency Session ,Joe Biden win was certified by the joint houses.

Trump's legal team led by Professor John Eastman were indicted in Georgia for gathering the alternate electors. There was no law broken, they followed the Richard Nixon precedent of 1960. Tell me a constitutional law professor wouldn't know when laws are broken. That's why under Under President Joe Biden's term, Congress passed the Electoral Count Reform Act of 2022 to explicitly clarify that the sitting Vice President has no authority to block, alter, delay, or adjudicate disputes over the certification of a presidential election.

Ray Epps and the Pipe bomber were to ensure no objections were raised by forcing the joint house into an emergency session.

fedsurrection. You should be wondering what would have happened if the house and Senate voted differently to certify the state electoral counts.I know you can't go there so I won't help you further.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 10:52am On Jun 01
basilico:
Who takes traitor Pence seriously? He ran for the seat in 2024 and never went past 3%.

The moral man who said he can't have dinner alone with another woman unless it's his wife. Neither can he attend a party where alcohol is available without his wife.

With the grab em tape, he was to replace Trump. He was part of the plan to get Gen Flynn fired.

He had the power to entertain objections on Jan 6,then send the petitions back to states for 10 days. There were objections by 5/6 states.
This will surprise you
On Jan 6 ,he would have done that, unless the house +Senate went into emergency session.
When Ray Epps and his goons broke through barricades, Pelosi adjourned the chamber. This was exactly one minute after the first objection was raised. When it resumed under emergency session ,traitor Pence had no powers to listen to any objections. .He says that part correctly but never mentions the emergency part
Do you see DAntuono was part of the plan to send the session into an emergency session?

Pence can't win anything now , he should be enjoying his pension.
He is a traitor to the cause and the base is unforgiving.
😂😂😅😅🤣🤣.. Pence a traitor? And you are what? A more patriotic American than the former VP of the USA.. ??
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m):
bemeruca:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvHGrKr8H7c
🤣🤣😅😅😅😂😂😂😂..


Choiii.. make I burst laugh..

I pity for Ona sha..

So what is your point?

You haven’t established your point.

Did Jan 6 happen? Was the capitol invaded by insurrectionists for which a handful of those folks were convicted by the law?

If you like keep dancing.. posterity is waiting for all propagandists and Trump worshippers..
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
Jason Reding Quiñones ,the US Attorney for Southern District of Florida is leading the RICO investigation into targeting of Trump.
Florida because biased DC juries and judges will never indict a democrat .
Florida because the Mar a Lago raid took place there.
RICO because it carries a 20 year sentence.
RICO because it has no explicit statue of limitations. If Comey claims his spying on Trump was 10 years ago today , that plays out to be a continuation of the RICO.
Anyone indicted or convicted by a jury of his peers in these investigation faces 20 years.. This should make many sing.
I have a feeling one of the songs led to decision by Colorado governor to free Tina Peters. Just like the song led to FBI grabbing 600 ballot boxes in Fulton County.

Joe diGenova is leading the investigation under Quinones. He knows everything about the targeting of Trump having represented him once .

The fedsurrection article I previous posted was summarized from Darren Beattie who now is an acting undersecretary of state. Must be close to Trump.

FBI director Kash Patel has said they found evidence hidden away in FBI vaults and SCIFs .
He has also said they have monumental evidence of 2020 election saying prosecutions are around the corner.

Trump 2.0 is different from 1.0
AG Jeffrey Sessions recused himself from the Russia collusion hoax..Bill Barr cleverly stymied the investigations by appointing the OIG to investigate for over a year and releasing a report noone acted upon. .
This time it's different. Trump's close sides are not wolves in sheepskin like Traitor Pence.

Biden DOJ was utterly rogue,spent most of it's time looking to jail Trump and any ally of his to crucify.
Jack Smith had the audacity to spy on Kash Patel the FBI director.
He also had the audacity to spy on Susan Wiles the WH Chief of staff
The investigations are within the jurisdiction of Judge Aileen Cannon who saw through the Jack Smith BS cases.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 12:06pm On Jun 01
bayelsaowei:
😂😂😅😅🤣🤣.. Pence a traitor? And you are what? A more patriotic American than the former VP of the USA.. ??
A delusional oaf. He definitely understands America more than those who live in it. grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 12:24pm On Jun 01
cococandy:
A delusional oaf. He definitely understands America more than those who live in it. grin
And this man was the VP to the same orange man they worship oo.. they suddenly now know Trump or love Trump more than Pence does..

Absolute delusion.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 12:32pm On Jun 01
bayelsaowei:
🤣🤣😅😅😅😂😂😂😂..


Choiii.. make I burst laugh..

I pity for Ona sha..

So what is your point?

You haven’t established your point.

Did Jan 6 happen? Was the capitol invaded by insurrectionists for which a handful of those folks were convicted by the law?

If you like keep dancing.. posterity is waiting for all propagandists and Trump worshippers..
My point is that this was hidden from the public, as well as many other activities. Twitter, the media, etc., were all involved to shape a narrative.

So it is one narrative vs the other. I am saying you cannot tell which is true.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 12:35pm On Jun 01
bemeruca:
My point is that this was hidden from the public, as well as many other activities. Twitter, the media, etc., were all involved to shape a narrative.

So it is one narrative vs the other. I am saying you cannot tell which is true.
Hehehe..

So tell me.. why do you think or believe it was hidden? To what end?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:40pm On Jun 01
bayelsaowei:
Hehehe..

So tell me.. why do you think or believe it was hidden? To what end?
Because America went to the dogs.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 12:51pm On Jun 01
bayelsaowei:
Hehehe..

So tell me.. why do you think or believe it was hidden? To what end?
To shape the narrative, why else?

Why do you think Trump's words were edited and Twitter took it down? Because it would show he did not ask them to go and riot.

The Biden FBI refused to arrest the guy who was instigating a riot while grannies were taken to court.

Media selectively edited his words, Twitter took down the video where he asked people to go home.

Pencil Neck was caught the other time on another issue photoshopping data to implicate Trump.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 2:17pm On Jun 01
Not a divisive govt at all

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 2:36pm On Jun 01
It's a maga thing to think the more they lie the more their lie becomes the "narrative".

It works amongst them, so they think it works on everyone.

cococandy:
Regain which senses? Their insincerity and dubious spirit can never let them regain their senses. He said “whomever shouted that is insane but it wasn’t the narrative” as if it was just one person who said it.

It was literally a chant. A multitude of them screaming for the vice president to get hanged. And he’s casually brushing it off as if it was something said by one person as opposed to a shared sentiment.

You can’t debate truth with children of the master liar himself. I get absolutely disgusted interacting with people who can look you in the face and tell you that the sky is green when it’s clearly blue.

You cannot put any value to anything that comes out of their lying mouths.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IydFKBIcgP0?si=VfG5PyDHjws1cSHZ

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:22pm On Jun 01
cococandy:
Not a divisive govt at all
Why are you not saying the reason, that they are a sanctuary jurisdiction.
I bet you sanctuary jurisdictions have serious drug ,crime problems and lax airport screening.
Strive to provide full context the way basilico usually does. smiley
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:33pm On Jun 01
Elon Musk switched to republican largely because of his son. He bought Twitter and the rest is history.
Democrats lost the election.
bemeruca.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:36pm On Jun 01
Medical supplies dropped for rioting antifa crowd in NJ.



antifa is proscribed as a domestic terror organization. why is it still operating.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:43pm On Jun 01
Trump EO . USPS maintains address of registered voters , will not deliver ballots to addresses of non registered voters.. DHS to compile eligible voters in every state.




Democrats will. scream to the moon about this.
Republicans I have seen on say that's what they voted for.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 3:43pm On Jun 01
bemeruca:
To shape the narrative, why else?

Why do you think Trump's words were edited and Twitter took it down? Because it would show he did not ask them to go and riot.

The Biden FBI refused to arrest the guy who was instigating a riot while grannies were taken to court.

Media selectively edited his words, Twitter took down the video where he asked people to go home.

Pencil Neck was caught the other time on another issue photoshopping data to implicate Trump.
So what are you arriving at? That the Jan 6th incident happened, but that Trump never incited the crowd..

Or that the Jan 6th did happen but the insurrectionists are all innocent, and therefore have been pardoned by Trump.

Or that the Jan 6th did happen and was orchestrated by the left (though with Trump as president)

Note: Trump pardoned all of the protesters and presently pushing for compensation for all em.. I wonder why..

Please tell me where you are going with your story... Mr propaganda..
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:47pm On Jun 01
Tina Peters is free.
She needs to be compensated for the persecution she went through.



I defended her
Mentioned names were ecstatic a pro Trumper had been jailed for 9 years.
I bet there is someone singing in Florida under Joe diGenova.

Who is laughing now?

basilico:
feedthenation budaatum Ijebos .
Remember your words against Tina Peters?

Happy to announce she is walking out of prison tomorrow.
If she was guilty of any crime , the Governor wouldn't have made it possible.

She took an image of the election server whose data was about to be deleted by Dominion Rigging System. For that 9 years by a state court to make sure no president would pardon her. Trial Judge was extremely biased and harsh.
She is not a techie,she hired an outsider to do it to protest the evidence .

it's no longer possible to deny that 2020 election was extensively rigged .
They say ,He who laughs last laughs the loudest laugh of laughs

She qualifies for the $ 1.!76 billion fund , though an Obama judge has blocked it. .

bayelsaowei take note .
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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:55pm On Jun 01
Quote the words that Trump uttered that incited the insurrection that Democrats scream about every time.
Read between the lines.

You'll understand why Pelosi and DC Mayor turned down 10000 National Guards offer from Trump. She couldn't have had her riot her daughter was filming and sold footage to media houses.


bayelsaowei:
So what are you arriving at? That the Jan 6th incident happened, but that Trump never incited the crowd..

Or that the Jan 6th did happen but the insurrectionists are all innocent, and therefore have been pardoned by Trump.

Or that the Jan 6th did happen and was orchestrated by the left (though with Trump as president)

Note: Trump pardoned all of the protesters and presently pushing for compensation for all em.. I wonder why..

Please tell me where you are going with your story... Mr propaganda..
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by RodgersAkpafu: 4:21pm On Jun 01
basilico:
Because America went to the dogs.
🤡
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 4:49pm On Jun 01
I usually do not have the patience for these long tubes, but this one played well radio like while I was occupied.

It's like Trump was elected to do God's work for which we Blues should be grateful.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R38y1o2RpRM
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 4:56pm On Jun 01
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 5:39pm On Jun 01
Real heavy hands of justice needs to start descending on these animals

An ICE agent who shot an unarmed Venezuelan immigrant through the front door of a Minneapolis home — and then allegedly fabricated a story to justify it — has been arrested in Texas.

Christian Castro, 52, was taken into custody Friday by Texas Rangers and agents from the Department of Homeland Security's Office of the Inspector General. Minnesota investigators had tracked him down in Texas after charging him earlier this month in Hennepin County District Court.

Castro faces four counts of second-degree assault with a deadly weapon and one count of falsely reporting a crime. The shooting happened on January 14 during Operation Metro Surge — described by the Trump administration as the largest immigration enforcement operation in the Minneapolis–St. Paul area to date. Castro fired his weapon through the front door of a home while standing alone in the front yard, striking Julio Sosa-Celis in the leg. Investigators say Castro was not under physical threat when he pulled the trigger.

Here's where it gets damning: Castro claimed the men inside assaulted him with a broom and a shovel. But video evidence directly contradicted that account, and a medical examination found no significant injuries to Castro's body — just a single abrasion on his left hand. Investigators concluded he was standing and in no danger when he fired.

Castro is the second ICE agent to face charges out of Operation Metro Surge. Hennepin County Attorney Mary Moriarty said it plainly: "His federal badge does not make him immune from state charges for his criminal conduct in Minnesota." The case is already reigniting a fierce national debate about accountability, use of force, and whether immigration enforcement has been operating without adequate oversight.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 5:41pm On Jun 01
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 6:25pm On Jun 01
basilico:
Quote the words that Trump uttered that incited the insurrection that Democrats scream about every time.
Read between the lines.

You'll understand why Pelosi and DC Mayor turned down 10000 National Guards offer from Trump. She couldn't have had her riot her daughter was filming and sold footage to media houses.
So what are you saying? I want to understand your point?

Are the protesters not accountable for their actions? Why did Trump pardon them?

Did the protesters not attack the capitol because Trump lost the elections? Why did they attack the capitol? Why?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 6:33pm On Jun 01
cococandy:
Real heavy hands of justice needs to start descending on these animals
Let me behave like our Steven Miller loving Nigerians.

That immigrant is a domestic terrorist.. the worst of the worst. He deserved it..

I am trying to imagine what I would look or sound like as a racist loving Nigerian.

😀
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 7:05pm On Jun 01
Right wing wins in Colombia

Has to be said that since USAID was shut down, the left wing parties across South America seem to be losing elections
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 7:07pm On Jun 01
bayelsaowei:
So what are you arriving at? That the Jan 6th incident happened, but that Trump never incited the crowd..

Or that the Jan 6th did happen but the insurrectionists are all innocent, and therefore have been pardoned by Trump.

Or that the Jan 6th did happen and was orchestrated by the left (though with Trump as president)

Note: Trump pardoned all of the protesters and presently pushing for compensation for all em.. I wonder why..

Please tell me where you are going with your story... Mr propaganda..
I stated my point, I have arrived at that simple point, but you are forcing false choices.

Take note:

Yes, January 6 happened.

Also, that does not mean Trump directly told people to riot.

Or every single person there was innocent.

Or the left secretly planned everything.

My point is selective justice and narrative manipulation.

So I’m saying we cannot know whether what Pence said is true or not.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:16pm On Jun 01
This is what Jack Smith left out in his indictment.

"I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.

Trump finished his speech 12:56 pm.
The crowd was 1.5-1.7 miles away ,a 30-35 minutes walking distance. The first people from his rally would have arrived earliest at 1:30 pm

Ray Epps gang breached the barricades at 1:03 pm.

Be the judge.

bayelsaowei:
So what are you saying? I want to understand your point?

Are the protesters not accountable for their actions? Why did Trump pardon them?

Did the protesters not attack the capitol because Trump lost the elections? Why did they attack the capitol? Why?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 8:41pm On Jun 01
basilico:
This is what Jack Smith left out in his indictment.

"I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.

Trump finished his speech 12:56 pm.
The crowd was 1.5-1.7 miles away ,a 30-35 minutes walking distance. The first people from his rally would have arrived earliest at 1:30 pm

Ray Epps gang breached the barricades at 1:03 pm.

Be the judge.
Hope you know that even before Trump finished his speech, some folks had already left and marching to the capitol. So your claim that the first people from his rally would have arrived earliest at 1:30pm is not factual.

The words "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard. was not hidden from anybody.. it was available to the public. It wasn’t some secret.

As for Ray Epps. He was a staunch Trump supporter and most likely has been pardoned.

All of those folks who attacked the capitol were Trump supporters.. and they were there because Trump lost the elections..

And they’ve all been pardoned and about to be paid for attacking the capitol.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by happney65: 8:51pm On Jun 01
A senior White House official confirms to MS NOW that the Trump administration plans to drop the controversial $1.776 billion "anti-weaponization fund."

News
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 8:52pm On Jun 01
bemeruca:
I stated my point, I have arrived at that simple point, but you are forcing false choices.

Take note:

Yes, January 6 happened.

Also, that does not mean Trump directly told people to riot.

Or every single person there was innocent.

Or the left secretly planned everything.

My point is selective justice and narrative manipulation.

So I’m saying we cannot know whether what Pence said is true or not.
Trump had suggested his followers march to the capitol to protest peacefully, after making claims the election was stolen (rigged), putting pressure on officials and other inflammatory remarks before and on Jan 6th.. They ended up erratic and attacked the capitol.. those found guilty were convicted.

The same Trump has pardoned all of them.. All!!!

Why would Trump pardon folks who attacked the capitol if his desire was for a peaceful protest (for which the opposite happened).

Why? And even wants to pay them off..
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