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Re: Pharmacists Are Quietly Preventing Medical Disasters Every Single Day by Okwyjesus(m): 5:12pm On Jun 04
next2me:
Very ignorant statement.
You just hit the nail on the head. This is obviously a doctors hate thread
You people are very funny. How can a pharmacist regulate a doctor? What sort of dumb statement is that?
Before you fool and insult yourself.

In the hospital Doctors diagnose and lead treatment plan but Pharmacist knows more about the drugs for treatment and their components.

They can correct prescription and guide the doctor on best drug to treat.
Re: Pharmacists Are Quietly Preventing Medical Disasters Every Single Day by femi4: 5:16pm On Jun 04
They also kill a lot too, turning themselves to doc over night prescribing medication for those that cannot afford hospital bills
Re: Pharmacists Are Quietly Preventing Medical Disasters Every Single Day by MrEgghead(m): 6:25pm On Jun 04
starpower:
Ok o, just recently my son was admitted in general hospital ikorodu and an antibiotic was requested from the pharmacy, it probably not suitable for his age, the pharmacist left her duty post with people waiting in line and follow me to see the doctor, they had a discussion and the doctor changed the drug , I could hear her pleading, don't tell the other consultant o!. We really understand appreciate there support. More reason government regulate them.
That is the right and the best thing to do. It could be that the doctor is an intern or it was an oversight. But in some instances which I have witnessed , the pharmacist was wrong. At the end, the best for the patient is what we desire
Re: Pharmacists Are Quietly Preventing Medical Disasters Every Single Day by Chikarata2020(m): 7:34pm On Jun 04
The pharmacists are actually the best in drugs prescription. A doctor comes in when their is need for diagnosis
Re: Pharmacists Are Quietly Preventing Medical Disasters Every Single Day by Basic123: 8:05pm On Jun 04
Health care delivery goes beyond drug prescription and dispensing.
Not all health conditions requires drugs or outpatient management.
The core domain of a pharmacist is drug formulation.
How do you identify a surgical case?..How do you identify a case that is purely multidisciplinary.

Pharmacists think drugs!
Medical Lab Scientists think Tests
Nurses think symptom&sign care and overall patient Nursing care
Physiotherapists think physical maneuvres interventions

Medical Doctors think about the patient overallmanagement.He determines who needs the service of other professionals and not
That is why he is the defacto leader of the team.He assigns others responsibilities and coordinate it but DOESNT TEACH THEM HOW TO DO IT.
Re: Pharmacists Are Quietly Preventing Medical Disasters Every Single Day by Basic123: 8:06pm On Jun 04
Chikarata2020:
The pharmacists are actually the best in drugs prescription. A doctor comes in when their is need for diagnosis
THIS IS A BIG LIE.

Stop misinforming the public please
Re: Pharmacists Are Quietly Preventing Medical Disasters Every Single Day by Basic123: 8:08pm On Jun 04
Okwyjesus:
Before you fool and insult yourself.

In the hospital Doctors diagnose and lead treatment plan but Pharmacist knows more about the drugs for treatment and their components.

They can correct prescription and guide the doctor on best drug to treat.
They cant correct prescription bro.
The final verdict still lies on the doctor judgement.
Even an hospital assistant can make observation,the final say still lies on tbe doctor judgement.You cant appropriately prescribed without knowing the patient in totality,only doctors know that.
Re: Pharmacists Are Quietly Preventing Medical Disasters Every Single Day by Basic123: 8:10pm On Jun 04
Okwyjesus:
Before you fool and insult yourself.

In the hospital Doctors diagnose and lead treatment plan but Pharmacist knows more about the drugs for treatment and their components.

They can correct prescription and guide the doctor on best drug to treat.
Even a Nurse can do what you just said.
Whatever role they are playing is advisory,a doctor may find it reasonable and adopt or discard it.The doctor still has the final say
Re: Pharmacists Are Quietly Preventing Medical Disasters Every Single Day by Basic123: 8:14pm On Jun 04
Osanoghodua1:
Doctors are trying to take the place of Pharmacists which is very sad.
As how? grin

Its actually the other way round

Pharmacists core function is drug formulation,dispensing is secondary
Re: Pharmacists Are Quietly Preventing Medical Disasters Every Single Day by professore(m): 8:35pm On Jun 04
Nice thread
Re: Pharmacists Are Quietly Preventing Medical Disasters Every Single Day by stasius: 9:46pm On Jun 04
Chibuezem:
Most pharmacists with low self-esteem in their bid to work like clinical officers start consulting and prescribing antibiotics to Nigerians leading to this widespread antibiotic resistance.
Exactly. It is low self esteem that will make you leave your job and start pretending to do another person's work. If you study medicine work as a medical doctor. If you study nursing work as a nurse. If you study physiotherapy stop pretending to be a doctor in front of patient. Proudly be a physiotherapist and not a doctor wannabe!
Wear your profession with pride and stop trying to be what you cannot be by virtue of qualification. Because if there is gbese tomorrow you can go to jail for it.
Re: Pharmacists Are Quietly Preventing Medical Disasters Every Single Day by jaephoenix(m): 10:42pm On Jun 04
Dpharmacist:
PHARMACISTS ARE QUIETLY PREVENTING MEDICAL DISASTERS EVERY SINGLE DAY
I know pharmacists do a lot but i have an advice for you guys: always run your advice by the doctor before changing his prescriptions. If a you don't understand a particular regimen,ask the doctor. Yes, you are good with pharmacology and drug-drug interactions but some regimens are there cos the doctor knows more about the pathology of the disease more than you.
For example, a doc prescribes normal saline for a hypertensive who has stroked. Don't go and do busy body and cancel the prescriptions. Learn from the doctor. Thank you
Re: Pharmacists Are Quietly Preventing Medical Disasters Every Single Day by jaephoenix(m): 10:43pm On Jun 04
starpower:
My sister is a pharmacist have witnessed countless times she avert disaster due to misdiagnosis or overdose. Nigerian system overwhelm medical staff too often reason once given prescription drugs I patronise where I will see a pharmacist on sit and experienced one is better.
Pharmacists also do mistakes too. You make it seem as if the mistakes is the domain of the doctor alone
Re: Pharmacists Are Quietly Preventing Medical Disasters Every Single Day by jaephoenix(m): 10:44pm On Jun 04
Efuaye:
This is how it is supposed to be in a sane country. Many doctors are overworked mainly because of brain drain or “Japa” syndrome. The few elderly doctors who work as consultants are rarely available to guide the student doctors who litter our public health centers, using Google search to diagnose and prescribe medication.
This one jus dey cap. Lemme help you out. If your doctor uses Google, thank him properly. I dont think you'll understand why,so let me leave you
Re: Pharmacists Are Quietly Preventing Medical Disasters Every Single Day by jaephoenix(m): 10:45pm On Jun 04
Okwyjesus:
They obviously regulate doctors and create balance in their approach to medication.

Very key to healthcare success
This one say pharmacist dey regulate doctor. Ooo chim
Nothing i no go see for Nairaland
Re: Pharmacists Are Quietly Preventing Medical Disasters Every Single Day by Dpharmacist(op): 11:06pm On Jun 04
jaephoenix:
I know pharmacists do a lot but i have an advice for you guys: always run your advice by the doctor before changing his prescriptions. If a you don't understand a particular regimen,ask the doctor. Yes, you are good with pharmacology and drug-drug interactions but some regimens are there cos the doctor knows more about the pathology of the disease more than you.
For example, a doc prescribes normal saline for a hypertensive who has stroked. Don't go and do busy body and cancel the prescriptions. Learn from the doctor. Thank you
I get your point

But What do you mean by busy body, that's arrogant and condescending.
Re: Pharmacists Are Quietly Preventing Medical Disasters Every Single Day by OSESUNATE(m): 6:01am On Jun 05
Hedonisco:
I find that experienced pharmacists are more important than a lot of doctors, especially in non-surgical cases.

Many doctors in this country have caused an awful lot of unnecessary deaths.
Lol. Make una no worry, una go learn by force. We see a lot of your types in hospitals everyday with very complicated cases after they've spent huge chunk of their lives running from one pharmacy to another
Re: Pharmacists Are Quietly Preventing Medical Disasters Every Single Day by Love800(m): 6:06am On Jun 05
You said the doctor your brother went to prescribe drugs for him, then he went to a pharmacist and was told the drugs were overdose.

So i want to ask. After the doctor prescribed those drugs for him, the doctor will send your brother to the hospital pharmacy to get the drug.
So after going to the hospital pharmacy, why did he still go to another pharmacy outside!
Are both not pharmacies!
walexbiz:
We often praise doctors, but we rarely give pharmacists the credit they deserve as life-savers. I learned this the hard way through two personal experiences:

​(1) Looking to save money after giving birth to my twins, I tried buying their prescribed medication from a local chemist/grocer. He didn't have the exact drug, so he gave me a "similar-sounding" substitute in a black nylon bag. When I took it to a registered pharmacy to find the rest, the pharmacist spotted the substitute and sounded the alarm. It was completely the wrong medication. My attempt to save money almost cost my babies their lives.

​(1) My younger brother went to a pharmacy with a hospital prescription. The pharmacist noticed a major error: the doctor had accidentally prescribed two different brands of the same drug (drug duplicity). Instead of just making a sale, the pharmacist sat him down, explained the danger of overdosing, and corrected the error.
​Pharmacists don’t just count pills; they catch the deadly mistakes that happen after we leave the doctor's office. Let’s start giving them the respect they deserve!

​Why the Pharmacist's Role is Critical
​"Many people view pharmacies merely as 'shops' and pharmacists as 'salespeople,' which is why we often try to cut corners by using untrained medicine vendors to save money. However, a pharmacist is a clinical expert. Doctors diagnose, but pharmacists understand the intricate chemistry of how drugs interact with the human body. They are trained to catch human errors whether it is a doctor's oversight or a patient's confusion."
Re: Pharmacists Are Quietly Preventing Medical Disasters Every Single Day by Love800(m): 6:13am On Jun 05
So she knows more than the doctor!

Jokes!
starpower:
Ok o, just recently my son was admitted in general hospital ikorodu and an antibiotic was requested from the pharmacy, it probably not suitable for his age, the pharmacist left her duty post with people waiting in line and follow me to see the doctor, they had a discussion and the doctor changed the drug , I could hear her pleading, don't tell the other consultant o!. We really understand appreciate there support. More reason government regulate them.
Re: Pharmacists Are Quietly Preventing Medical Disasters Every Single Day by jaephoenix(m): 7:23am On Jun 05
Dpharmacist:
I get your point

But What do you mean by busy body, that's arrogant and condescending.
Sorry for the terms used. But I hope you get my point. Because its annoying as a doctor, you prescribe some meds, you go home expecting for the patient to commence meds,only to return and they tell you that the meds have not been dispensed by the pharmacist,who didn't bother to check up on your thoughts
Re: Pharmacists Are Quietly Preventing Medical Disasters Every Single Day by Chibuezem(m): 8:36am On Jun 05
next2me:
Very ignorant statement.
You just hit the nail on the head. This is obviously a doctors hate thread
You people are very funny. How can a pharmacist regulate a doctor? What sort of dumb statement is that?
very dumb lol the only body licensed to regulate a doctor is MDCN
Re: Pharmacists Are Quietly Preventing Medical Disasters Every Single Day by next2me: 9:26am On Jun 05
Okwyjesus:
Before you fool and insult yourself.

In the hospital Doctors diagnose and lead treatment plan but Pharmacist knows more about the drugs for treatment and their components.

They can correct prescription and guide the doctor on best drug to treat.
Keep quiet there what do you know? A pharmacist cannot correct a prescription without consulting with the doctor for approval. How are you sure what you are correcting was a mistake?
Stop hating and do your pharmacist job with pride, stop trying to be a doctor wannabe.
If you want to be a doctor then go to medical school and stop trying to go through the back door. All this propaganda will still not make you a doctor.
Re: Pharmacists Are Quietly Preventing Medical Disasters Every Single Day by olakan22: 1:27pm On Jun 05
The headline is misleading, inciting and unnecessary. Op is claiming without proof that doctors are causing 'medical disasters' of great proportion because of their prescriptions. Not good.
Re: Pharmacists Are Quietly Preventing Medical Disasters Every Single Day by skedy1(m): 1:45pm On Jun 05
NwaNimo1:
Also killing a lot of people.....especially the ones who think they know past doctor
Now you know
Treat one pharmacist around you today.
It's weekend
Re: Pharmacists Are Quietly Preventing Medical Disasters Every Single Day by Sunshinepassion: 2:53pm On Jun 05
Pharmacy always doing there best bring a genuine drugs for people ❤️👍
Re: Pharmacists Are Quietly Preventing Medical Disasters Every Single Day by Dpharmacist(op): 4:44pm On Jun 05
jaephoenix:
Sorry for the terms used. But I hope you get my point. Because its annoying as a doctor, you prescribe some meds, you go home expecting for the patient to commence meds,only to return and they tell you that the meds have not been dispensed by the pharmacist,who didn't bother to check up on your thoughts
Yes there are usually reasons why a doctor might prescribed a particular medication even if it looks odd but still appropriate for the condition. Doctors are really trying and carry a heavy burden in diagnoses. Effective collaboration is what is actually missing in our hospital settings. All this will reduce if there is effective communication.

Hope you know sometimes it's difficult to get to the doctor and there are cases where there was actually an error from the doctor, probably because the doctor was overstressed (we are not machines) . When the pharmacist detected it, all efforts to get to the doctor proved abortive. His phone is switched off and his whereabouts not know by the nurses, so it was documented in the folder that changes were made.
Re: Pharmacists Are Quietly Preventing Medical Disasters Every Single Day by jaephoenix(m): 6:31pm On Jun 07
Dpharmacist:
Yes there are usually reasons why a doctor might prescribed a particular medication even if it looks odd but still appropriate for the condition. Doctors are really trying and carry a heavy burden in diagnoses. Effective collaboration is what is actually missing in our hospital settings. All this will reduce if there is effective communication.

Hope you know sometimes it's difficult to get to the doctor and there are cases where there was actually an error from the doctor, probably because the doctor was overstressed (we are not machines) . When the pharmacist detected it, all efforts to get to the doctor proved abortive. His phone is switched off and his whereabouts not know by the nurses, so it was documented in the folder that changes were made.
In this scenario, there may be some expected alterations but it depends on the scenario.
For example,if I prescribe normal saline for a hypertensive who had stroked and the pharmacist feels it may worsen the hypertension, the best thing is go with the ISQ meds and await the physician to return and explain. But if its a non emergency med,say PO PCM and its prescribed QDS,the pharmacist can dispense and later ask why QDS and not TDS
Hope you get,Rx?
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