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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 3:52pm On Jun 12
Kog45:
I just watched one of the goal again...Bruno failed to mark the scorer,fact he gave him the space to shoot and nothing Maduka can do about it,the two goals Maduka view was blocked cuz the scorer drove Bruno from LB to the edge of 18 yard and took the shot and the samething happened through RB......well on Ajayi,i asked him why he was so harsh on Ajayi?Bassey was even caught out of positions than Ajayi in that game but Calvin Bassey was brave in his game,but his point on Ajayi i no understand o cuz calling a player washed just like that...the team did well with the absence of Osimhen,Lookman,Aina and Osayi
Ajayi is good. A steady calming presence beside the roaring engine of Bassey
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 3:52pm On Jun 12
Na NCAA final I dey wait for. Let him just take Gold there first. More Sub 10s to come... but I expect another 9.8 in the final.

Meanwhile we have a Javelin Champ at the NCAAs. 23 y/o Chinecherem Prosper Nnamdi. 82.26m just below his PB but enough for the win.

We have fine athletes rising, my good man.

chrisooblog:
Off topic Kanyinsola ran 9.94 another sub 10s. 9th in his career.

@Supernerd @PDPGuy hope he can become the male torch bearer in the sprints which we have lacked for so long.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 3:54pm On Jun 12
SymphonyRad:
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The RB was Akpan... and yes he had a very nervy game because Chella threw him into the thick of battle against a world class team so we can cut the kid some slack (not every debutant has the calm and composure of a Bewene), our LB was Zaidu, who has no business making the team.

Lmao Oga, if Benjamin Fredrick was fit you and I know Ajayi won't smell that starting XI under Chelle, and you can bet your two kidneys that the same Benjamin who is back with Brentford will definitely send Ajayi back to the bench once he's back for the September AFCON qualifiers. You talk of experience? Benjamin Frederick literally announced himself in a big way during the last unity cup and went on to have MOTM performances in those tough qualifiers we played that saw us make the playoffs, while your Ajayi was subpar against DR Congo, Benjamin who was played out of his natural position still outperformed him and even had to clean up some of the mistakes Ajayi made, so which yeye experience nonsense are you talking about?

I like Ajayi and think he has earned his stripes as one of our reliable defenders over the years, but right now if we go by the pecking order of our CBs at least under Chelle> it will easily be Bassey, Benjamin Fredrick, Fernandez, Igoh Ogbu, Nwaiwu and then Ajayi. The only reason Ajayi even played that Portugal game was because Ogbu was injured and Fernandez had a slight groin injury.
You are mistaken. The order for the CBs is Bassey, Benjamin, Ajayi and then the rest.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 3:54pm On Jun 12
Does Ronwen Williams not know what is happening back home? Na wa.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 3:55pm On Jun 12
Kog45:
Oga so to you Ogbu,Fernadez and Nwaiwu are ahead of Ajayi?Oga you do not rate Ajayi simple,we have players some of us don't rate here....are you talking about another Ajayi abi no be the same Ajayi that paired Bassey during Afcon.....

Stop it,Ajayi and Bassey are billed to start Portugal match,forget Ogbu injury
No mind am. He is so wrong
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:56pm On Jun 12
chrisooblog:
And you're standing logic on its head.

So if you're saying Ajayi played CB when Benjamin was fit what does that imply Mr. Comprehension skills?

If you can't grasp what EElopa explained that's your problem not mine.

Ajayi was porous for the SE when he was younger so I that your shalaye about better recovery when younger won't fly.

Ambrose that played highest in Scotland is better than Aina? grin

I no follow argue with you again. If you like say Ajayi is the best defender we've had in 20 years na you know.
Instead of you to admit your error, your usual self will resort to harm twisting and bojuboju tricks.

Elopa explanation can woe only those who don't understand the game and those who are prejudice against Ajayi else he won't mention limitation when all players have limitation. Na from myopic eyes em take talk am and you took it in hook, line and sinker. That's disappointing.

We are talking about National team and individual brilliance. This is a personal opinion not set in stone. Maybe you think your opinion is the CONSTITUTION we have to abide by. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:58pm On Jun 12
TheSuperNerd:
Does Ronwen Williams not know what is happening back home? Na wa.
That is what .......is causing. So sad.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by chrisooblog: 4:01pm On Jun 12
For real Doc.

TheSuperNerd:
Na NCAA final I dey wait for. Let him just take Gold there first. More Sub 10s to come... but I expect another 9.8 in the final.

Meanwhile we have a Javelin Champ at the NCAAs. 23 y/o Chinecherem Prosper Nnamdi. 82.26m just below his PB but enough for the win.

We have fine athletes rising, my good man.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:02pm On Jun 12
Napoleon55:
grin grin

I wonder who you dey refers to as football novices, certainly not Elder Kog45,baba Forgiveness, or even me.

Abi you just manage watch two AFCON editions,and you automatically turn to football aficionado.
Aficionado grin grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by chrisooblog: 4:02pm On Jun 12
Ok.

forgiveness:
Instead of you to admit your error, your usual self will resort to harm twisting and bojuboju tricks.

Elopa explanation can woe only those who does understand the game and those who are prejudice against Ajayi else he won't mention limitation when all players have limitation. Na from myopic eyes em take talk am and you took it in hook, line and sinker. That's disappointing.

We are talking about National team and individual brilliance. This is a personal opinion not set in stone. Maybe you think your opinion is the CONSTITUTION we have to abide by. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 4:04pm On Jun 12
SymphonyRad:
You said it all, I'm tired of breaking it down for this football novices that pointing out Ajayi's glaring limitations which you brilliantly elucidated isn't a campaign against his outstanding service to Nigeria...thanks for taking your time to deliver this submission cause I no get power to dey explain.
Football novices because of a difference in opinion? Because you are the expert?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 4:22pm On Jun 12
Mujtahida:
Football novices because of a difference in opinion? Because you are the expert?
One of my Zimbabwean friend who had university in Capetown was so glad they lost. We actually loved them, we so much love Mandela but how have they repaid other Africans? With xenophobia, and they expect us to support them??
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by mostob(m): 4:31pm On Jun 12
forgiveness:
You lack comprehension skills or you are deliberately twisting my point.

At no point did I say Ajayi was the reason Benjamin didn't play CB against Congo. The point is, Ajayi played even when Benjamin was fit. EOD

Eelopa submission lacks substance. It can't stand the test of truth. He was prejudiced in his submission because we saw Ajayi thread the ball forward many times. Na only agenda people go come here they lie. Infact, Ajayi loves doing that alone. Watch match.

Benjamin is better in recovery because he is young and pacy while Ajayi is getting older and slower.

Ambrose better pass Aina for that in Green white green. Osimhen is better because of APOTY. Spot the difference.
@ the bolded.
The reason Ajayi started that gane was because Bright was playing rubbish prior to the match. Ben had to play RB. With Aina or Bright on top of their games, Ben would have paired Bassey while Ajayi sit on bench. It's a common knowledge.

That's not to say Ajayi is not good or Ben is a perfect player.
As for the Portugal game, one thing I admired about Ajayi was the inverted CB role he played at some time during the first half. We beat Portugal's press twice and he had the chance to drive the ball forward but he lost it. A ball playing CB would have probably done better there.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by SymphonyRad: 4:32pm On Jun 12
Mujtahida:
You are mistaken. The order for the CBs is Bassey, Benjamin, Ajayi and then the rest.
E go shock you when Fernandez shuts down your hierarchy.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by mostob(m): 4:33pm On Jun 12
Mujtahida:
Football novices because of a difference in opinion? Because you are the expert?
If em call me novice, I for gree but not Elder Kog biko. Forgiveness too na OG.

Well, guy man fit don dey watch match since 60s. This is a faceless forum
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by mostob(m): 4:36pm On Jun 12
SymphonyRad:
E go shock you when Fernandez shuts down your hierarchy.
Akpoguma, Torunarigha (or wetin dem dey call am)
Na so we dey hype this two then. Dem put the former for match, Akpoguma turned to Akpors. From 4-0, we drew 4-4. Not to Germany or France or Brazil o. Against Sierra Leone. Now, I'm not heaping the whole blame on Akpors.
In short, the new guys need to come in and show their worth (like Ben) before ranking them ahead of the current players.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 4:36pm On Jun 12
AndSunGorilla:
One of my Zimbabwean friend who had university in Capetown was so glad they lost. We actually loved them, we so much love Mandela but how have they repaid other Africans? With xenophobia, and they expect us to support them??
I don't support SA but it's not because of the issue of xenophobia oo. Cos I firmly believe every nation has the right to protect their borders.

The immigrant wants to get in, the natives wants to protect their country from unrestrained migration. Every side doing what conduces to their self interest.

If it were a white country, we'd label them racist but since we cannot hurl that invective against the Mzanzis, we call them Xenophobes.

I try to look at issues beyond the popular narrative.

The international argument is weighed against the SA people but does anyone care about their own fears and concerns?

Is the sentiment to protect one's country, culture, history and boundaries not common throughout the world?

Even in Nigeria here despite our shared nationality, don't we see nativist marking the boundaries which define the limits of people who are not natives? Is this not what is behind the crisis in the Plateau? Do we let people of other ethnicities who are not natives of our various states to hold elective positions? No!

But if our people are denied the same opportunity abroad, we start crying racism. It's rank hypocrisy.

Africa helped them during apartheid but to me, that help was not conditional or predicated on their allowing all Africans come unrestrained to their country.

The bottom line is that we have to be fair in looking at this issue. To cast SA people as devils without at least understanding their grouse is unfair. I say this and the same time I abhor the violence that accompanies their objections to the presence and influx of migrants.

The whole world does not belong to everyone indiscriminately. There are borders and boundaries. People have a right to their space.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 4:42pm On Jun 12
SymphonyRad:
E go shock you when Fernandez shuts down your hierarchy.
Why will it shock me? What have we not seen in football. The point is that as it stands Ajayi is number 3 despite his limitations. This does not negate the fact that he can be pushed down the pecking order by any of the other CB options.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by mostob(m): 4:44pm On Jun 12
Abeg when are our in-laws playing?

Cape Verde my beloved country
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:46pm On Jun 12
mostob:
@ the bolded.
The reason Ajayi started that gane was because Bright was playing rubbish prior to the match. Ben had to play RB. With Aina or Bright on top of their games, Ben would have paired Bassey while Ajayi sit on bench. It's a common knowledge.

That's not to say Ajayi is not good or Ben is a perfect player.
As for the Portugal game, one thing I admired about Ajayi was the inverted CB role he played at some time during the first half. We beat Portugal's press twice and he had the chance to drive the ball forward but he lost it. A ball playing CB would have probably done better there.
You are missing the point. Besides, Benjamin benching Ajayi is just opinion not fact.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by SymphonyRad: 4:52pm On Jun 12
forgiveness:
Benjamin played in the second match at the unity game which happened to his debut but was benched in the final whichhappenedto be the next match. That doesn't show sequence as you claimed. Ajayi still played in that same final. Was Benjamin not fit for the next match?

Ajayi was not available in the next match which happened to be the qualifiers because he wasn't playing games for his club. EOD.

If they not in the same age gap, why are you claiming Benjamin is above Ajayi?

Who is weird now? grin
This is why you should stick to actually getting your facts right first before rushing to engage your fingers just because you want to drop bangers. We played only two games at the unity cup, the first one was vs Ghana in which Ajayi paired with Ogbu as CBs, and the second one which was the final against Jamaica where Benjamin paired with Ogbu...this was the game that Felix Agu and Benjamin Frederick got introduced as the exciting prospects so wetin you dey yarn grin.

Ajayi has been stuck in the championship for years until recently when his club gained promotion...fair play to him for finally getting a chance to play in the prem, Benjamin on the other hand is back to first team at Brentford...make if this information as you wish.

I never claimed Benjamin is above Ajayi, that's you trying to project on me but I jump am pass. The whole premise of my submission is that Benjamin has more upsides to his game compared to Ajayi and this isn't even on the basis on who is younger or older...Benjamin can defend, is more versatile (he can play as a DM, CB and RB), he is a superb ball playing defender (Benjamin embodies the type of modern day player every manager will jump at every opportunity to have in his team), it's left for him to stay disciplined and continue to work hard.

Ajayi is a good defender, but he is limited in the sense that he lacks ball playing abilities and will always struggle badly against high pressing teams...he can get away with his limitations against teams like Sao Tome or Nambia, but against top draw teams? that will be suicidal.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by SymphonyRad: 4:54pm On Jun 12
Mujtahida:
Why will it shock me? What have we not seen in football. The point is that as it stands Ajayi is number 3 despite his limitations. This does not negate the fact that he can be pushed down the pecking order by any of the other CB options.
The algorithm of recently played games will beg to differ, Ajayi more often than not just comes off the bench to close out a game with his experience...i doubt he will consistently be a starter for us.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 4:56pm On Jun 12
I enjoyed the discussion on Semi Ajayi.

Team A saying Ajayi is limited make fine points.

Team B saying Ajayi is still valuable because of his experience are not wrong either.

Truth is, we have to admit that to see the Super Eagles at her very very very best, we need our BEST OF THE BEST on the field and restricting the discussion to the defence alone, we know who the Best are in defence.

But with that said, I would like us to understand that Chelle is being strategic with the defence's synergy. In Benjamin's absence, Ajayi proved to be a capable partner for Bassey at Africa's biggest tournament of stars, THE AFCON. Yes, a few moments of lapse vs Morocco but he recovered and finished strong. He brought that tournament experience to full bear and his experience across board from partnering Ekong in 2- and 3-man defence setups to partnering Bassey at the last Afcon make him quite invaluable due to his synergy and chemistry with the rest of the backline. His experience makes him quite adaptable.

Now how do you expect Chelle to hastily dump a CB of that experience and worth in terms of chemistry with the others? Ajayi's Top Class Afcon showing was just couple months back. He also helped Hull to EPL promotion recently.


Look, in time, Ajayi will be phased out and thanks goodness we have ready made upgrades already on ground in Nwaiwu and even Fernandez but it is also fact that they are "new" (plus Benjy's absence) that has made Chelle persist with Team Chemistry for now over shiny new toys (Upgrades) who need a bit more time to still blend in.

Chelle will keep inviting Ajayi for now especially ahead of the September/October AfconQs window. And with Benjamin also making his long expected return alongside Aina and Osayi as well, we will be back to our fullest strength at the back.

Ajayi's time is almost up and Chelle knows this but before it hits closure, Chelle will keep extracting what he can from Ajayi's experience for tactical and chemisry balance at the back.

Cheers all.... both teams debated well... and you are both right. The only difference is Ajayi's time is just not yet up.

Thank you. 🔚

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by minfelix(m): 5:01pm On Jun 12
Kog45:
Football novices?oga i don dey watch Afcons,World Cups,Europe champions cup,Europa cups when it was UEFA winners cup,watched English league before EPL since 1980s.....watched Nigeria leagues and CAF different club cups,watching WAFU cup,watching Nigeria leagues for years,travelling out of the country to watch football,having good relationship with many players and mind you i have two boys who i can call my sons in present eagles set up...

Abegi no novice here talking football,drop your point and let people contribute,here is not about winning arguement but exchanging ideas about football,i gain you gain and we move on.

Despite my histoical knowledge about Nigeria football i have learnt a lot here from good guys here who are in line with what is going on in modern day football.

Novice no dey here o
wow!! since 1980’s this is respectfully 39+/40+ yrs ago… we really have men in the shape and age of Mikel Obi,C ronaldo, Yobo, Enyeama etc here… guys that come in here to troll childishly and respond and reply people rashly should pls think and reason well before commenting here…my first serios world cup i watched from beginning to end was the 2002 world cup…na my papa motor car radio i childishly dey listen to france 98 final 3-0…I didn’t have a full knowledge of what happened at at world cup even the Nig vs Spain na only Oliseh shot and Raul’s missed kick(that still plays in my head from france 1998).
This place na legends of soccer/super eagles fans full am o
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by SymphonyRad: 5:06pm On Jun 12
mostob:
Akpoguma, Torunarigha (or wetin dem dey call am)
Na so we dey hype this two then. Dem put the former for match, Akpoguma turned to Akpors. From 4-0, we drew 4-4. Not to Germany or France or Brazil o. Against Sierra Leone. Now, I'm not heaping the whole blame on Akpors.
In short, the new guys need to come in and show their worth (like Ben) before ranking them ahead of the current players.
You're harsh on Torunarigha, he never really got enough opportunities with the NT, he still plays at the top level for Hamburger so I don't know why he is yet to get a real chance till date...Akpoguma was just an odd player, always had a decent club showing but looked out of sorts in the NT.

The new guys are showing their worth, Nwaiwu has won a unity cup in his debut, won a league cup at his club and is being courted by Borussia Dortmund so his ceiling is obviously high. Fernandez was recently voted the best player for Rangers fc, and has not put in a wrong foot in his appearances for Nigeria so far. I'm willing to take my chances on the younger generation, they have a higher ceiling and better learning curve...you can't teach an old dog new tricks and that's why Ekong got the hint and retired before football left him.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by SymphonyRad: 5:12pm On Jun 12
TheSuperNerd:
I enjoyed the discussion on Semi Ajayi.

Team A saying Ajayi is limited make fine points.

Team B saying Ajayi is still valuable because of his experience are not wrong either.

Truth is, we have to admit that to see the Super Eagles at her very very very best, we need our BEST OF THE BEST on the field and restricting the discussion to the defence alone, we know who the Best are in defence.

But with that said, I would like us to understand that Chelle is being strategic with the defence's synergy. In Benjamin's absence, Ajayi proved to be a capable partner for Bassey at Africa's biggest tournament of stars, THE AFCON. Yes, a few moments of lapse vs Morocco but he recovered and finished strong. He brought that tournament experience to full bear and his experience across board from partnering Ekong in 2- and 3-man defence setups to partnering Bassey at the last Afcon make him quite invaluable due to his synergy and chemistry with the rest of the backline. His experience makes him quite adaptable.

Now how do you expect Chelle to hastily dump a CB of that experience and worth in terms of chemistry with the others? Ajayi's Top Class Afcon showing was just couple months back. He also helped Hull to EPL promotion recently.


Look, in time, Ajayi will be phased out and thanks goodness we have ready made upgrades already on ground in Nwaiwu and even Fernandez but it is also fact that they are "new" (plus Benjy's absence) that has made Chelle persist with Team Chemistry for now over shiny new toys (Upgrades) who need a bit more time to still blend in.

Chelle will keep inviting Ajayi for now especially ahead of the September/October AfconQs window. And with Benjamin also making his long expected return alongside Aina and Osayi as well, we will be back to our fullest strength at the back.

Ajayi's time is almost up and Chelle knows this but before it hits closure, Chelle will keep extracting what he can from Ajayi's experience for tactical and chemisry balance at the back.

Cheers all.... both teams debated well... and you are both right. The only difference is Ajayi's time is just not yet up.

Thank you. 🔚
School us Prof, we're your humble students grin

You said it all boss, talk of putting the cap on the bottle.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by yinkeys(m):
Mujtahida:
You are mistaken. The order for the CBs is Bassey, Benjamin, Ajayi and then the rest.
Fernandez may be elevated though
Bassey, Benjamin, Fernandes, Ajayi
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nehruvia(m): 5:23pm On Jun 12
TheSuperNerd:
Does Ronwen Williams not know what is happening back home? Na wa.
No wahala. Let them sha come home first before we start settling our differences.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Sugarboyy(m): 5:32pm On Jun 12
SymphonyRad:
E go shock you when Fernandez shuts down your hierarchy.
These people are just underrating that Fernandez. Someone that's so calm with the ball on his feet, very good aerially and hardly make mistakes. Fernandez might ends up playing for a bigger club before even Bassey
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 5:46pm On Jun 12
Sugarboyy:
These people are just underrating that Fernandez. Someone that's so calm with the ball on his feet, very good aerially and hardly make mistakes. Fernandez might ends up playing for a bigger club before even Bassey
pple wey once rate Tanimu ahead of Bassey wetin u expect
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by SymphonyRad: 5:51pm On Jun 12
Sugarboyy:
These people are just underrating that Fernandez. Someone that's so calm with the ball on his feet, very good aerially and hardly make mistakes. Fernandez might ends up playing for a bigger club before even Bassey
💯
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 5:52pm On Jun 12
charlesemeka85:
pple wey once rate Tanimu ahead of Bassey wetin u expect
Kaaiiii... grin

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