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Re: Revisiting The Scripture For Better Understanding by FxMasterz: 9:19am On Jun 12
MaxInDHouse:
You people are perishing because you have no knowledge! Hosea 6:4

Do witches, armed robbers, Bandits and gangs work together for peaceful coexistence of mankind as Jesus taught his disciples? Matthew 28:19-20

Do witches, armed robbers, Bandits and gangs preach from house to house and door to door as Jesus commanded his disciples? Matthew 10:11-13

Do witches, armed robbers, Bandits and gangs live peacefully in our society as Jesus commanded his disciples? Matthew 10:16

You said you're not a liar yet you frown at the most peaceful group Jesus formed even telling them to laid down their lives when bandits comes to attack them in opposition to what Jesus commanded them to flee! Matthew 10:23

Guy stop deceiving yourself i never accuse you of being a satanist all i'm saying is your God differ from our God and your Jesus differ from our own!🙂
Do you have the Spirit of God in you?

Your organization has not made any positive impact on the world except lies about the time of Christ's coming. So, rest.

Being united in lies does more damage to the world than witches and armed robbers. You send men to.hell by teaching falsehood.

But, most importantly, do not deceive yourself.

"Whoever has not the Spirit of Christ, does not belong to Him."

Is that a joke to you?
Re: Revisiting The Scripture For Better Understanding by Explore2xmore(op): 10:55am On Jun 12
You still cannot produce your scriptural evidence for separate saved people in either heaven or earth ?
Psalm 115:16 is being stretched beyond what it actually says if it is taken to mean that humans are permanently limited to earth. In context, it speaks about God’s sovereignty and humanity’s earthly domain, not a complete statement about eternal destiny. The Bible itself presents a broader picture, including resurrection and final judgment (Daniel 12:2; John 5:28–29). So doctrine is not normally established by isolating one verse while ignoring the rest of the text.
The same principle applies to the Qur’an. Islam also distinguishes between earthly life as a temporary test (Qur’an 67:2) and the eternal outcome in the Hereafter, whether Paradise or punishment (Qur’an 98:8; 3:185). So the idea that humans are simply earthbound forever does not fit the Qur’anic framework.
The real question is not whether earth was created for humans a both traditions acknowledge earthly human life. The question is whether Scripture explicitly teaches that humanity’s final destiny is exclusively earth and not also connected to the heavenly realm. That conclusion requires more than Psalm 115:16 alone; it must be demonstrated from the complete scriptural picture. You are yet to do this.


MaxInDHouse:
See the problem with you?🤣
How can you be expecting all answers you want regarding a subject matter to be EXPLICITLY written in just one verse but when i throw similar questions to you your Quran can't even answer at all?

Ọmọ the earth is the place God created for humans as permanent abode {Psalms 115:16} that's why i keep asking you to make you use of your Quran and reason because God had no plan for humans in heaven!

So withdraw the word CONFINED earth is where God designed for humans not heaven!🙂
Re: Revisiting The Scripture For Better Understanding by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:24am On Jun 12
FxMasterz:
Your organization has not made any positive impact on the world.
But the organization has formed one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers in all the nations. Isaiah 2:2-4 compare Act 1:8🙂
Re: Revisiting The Scripture For Better Understanding by MaxInDHouse(m):
Explore2xmore:
The Bible itself presents a broader picture, including resurrection and final judgment (Daniel 12:2; John 5:28–29)
Where will resurrection take place?

Heaven or Earth?🤣
Re: Revisiting The Scripture For Better Understanding by FxMasterz: 5:31pm On Jun 12
MaxInDHouse:
But the organization has formed one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers in all the nations. Isaiah 2:2-4 compare Act 1:8🙂
There are many big and happy families of peace loving worshippers around the world. What difference does that make? And how that make sure quality for eternity?

My dear, if you do not have the Spirit of Christ, you do not belong to Him. Your membership of any big organization is useless.
Re: Revisiting The Scripture For Better Understanding by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:53pm On Jun 12
FxMasterz:
There are many big and happy families of peace loving worshippers around the world. What difference does that make?
Do they preach and teach about God's Kingdom in their neighborhood just as Jesus commanded his disciples? Matthew 28:19-20
Do they relate with all members of their faith like brothers and sisters does in one family? Mark 10:29-30
Do they stay away from politics, racism and military services just like the first century disciples of Christ? John 17:14-16
That is what Jesus said will make love exist in the midst of his true disciples! John 13:34-35

FxMasterz:
And how that make sure quality for eternity?
Jesus said that is the prerequisite for everlasting life:

“Truly I say to you, no one has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for my sake and for the sake of the good news who will not get 100 times more now in this period of time—houses, brothers, sisters, mothers, children, and fields, with persecutions—and in the coming system of things, everlasting life. Mark 10:29-30

Regarding the spirit you keep talking about you should have known by now that the spirit of our God differ from that of yours so stop deceiving yourself!🙂
Re: Revisiting The Scripture For Better Understanding by FxMasterz: 7:20pm On Jun 12
MaxInDHouse:
Do they preach and teach about God's Kingdom in their neighborhood just as Jesus commanded his disciples? Matthew 28:19-20
Do they relate with all members of their faith like brothers and sisters does in one family? Mark 10:29-30
Do they stay away from politics, racism and military services just like the first century disciples of Christ? John 17:14-16
That is what Jesus said will make love exist in the midst of his true disciples! John 13:34-35


Jesus said that is the prerequisite for everlasting life:

“Truly I say to you, no one has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for my sake and for the sake of the good news who will not get 100 times more now in this period of time—houses, brothers, sisters, mothers, children, and fields, with persecutions—and in the coming system of things, everlasting life. Mark 10:29-30

Regarding the spirit you keep talking about you should have known by now that the spirit of our God differ from that of yours so stop deceiving yourself!🙂
My dear, you're missing the important question. Pretending to preach the Kingdom of God while deceiving people and preacher falsehoods about the Kingdom won't save you.

if you do not have the Spirit of Christ, you do not belong to Him. Your so called preaching and gathering wouldn't count.
Re: Revisiting The Scripture For Better Understanding by MaxInDHouse(m):
FxMasterz:
PRETENDING to preach the Kingdom of God while deceiving people and preacher falsehoods about the Kingdom.
What is the proof that any organization is preaching the kingdom of God?

Jesus answered:

They will make members in all nations of the earth. Act 1:8

They will change wolf-like humans into sheep-like people. John 10:1

The whole world will confirm that there is love among them. John 13:34-35

They will not support politics, racism or war affecting unbelievers. John 17:14-16

They will be noticed globally as number one group of exemplary people. Matthew 5:14-16

If Jehovah's Witnesses are PRETENDING yet fulfilling all of these what happened to your own church o?🤣
Re: Revisiting The Scripture For Better Understanding by FxMasterz: 8:46am On Jun 13
MaxInDHouse:
What is the proof that any organization is preaching the kingdom of God?

Jesus answered:

They will make members in all nations of the earth. Act 1:8

They will change wolf-like humans into sheep-like people. John 10:1

The whole world will confirm that there is love among them. John 13:34-35

They will not support politics, racism or war affecting unbelievers. John 17:14-16

They will be noticed globally as number one group of exemplary people. Matthew 5:14-16

If Jehovah's Witnesses are PRETENDING yet fulfilling all of these what happened to your own church o?🤣
All these lies you spewed up there do not change the fact that "if you have not the Spirit of Christ, you do not belong to Christ."
Re: Revisiting The Scripture For Better Understanding by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:23am On Jun 13
FxMasterz:
All these lies you spewed up there do not change the fact that "if you have not the Spirit of Christ, you do not belong to Christ."
The spirit of our God differ from that of your God!🙂
Re: Revisiting The Scripture For Better Understanding by FxMasterz: 10:08am On Jun 13
MaxInDHouse:
The spirit of our God differ from that of your God!🙂
Yes, that's true.

My God gave His only BEGOTTEN Son. He didn't give angel Michael but yours did.

My Jesus has reigned from eternity past and would continue to reign till eternity future according to my Bible, but yours stared reigning in 1914.

If the spirit of your doctrine's god is in you, you're already a loser. But if it's the Spirit of the Bible's God, then congratulations.
Re: Revisiting The Scripture For Better Understanding by Explore2xmore(op): 11:13am On Jun 13
You sure got more to contend with.
1. The dead and buried on earth body is resurrected for what purpose? Delivery of judgement and passage to where eternity would be spent?

2. Your book says this is the same earth yet it's asked what should it profit a man to gain the whole world and loose his soul?

3. You pray to a father who art in heaven where Jesus goes to prepare a place for you yet it will still be on earth?

4. Is the resurrection in classes that will be separated or what?

MaxInDHouse:
Where will resurrection take place?

Heaven or Earth?🤣
Re: Revisiting The Scripture For Better Understanding by FxMasterz: 1:32pm On Jun 13
MaxInDHouse:
The spirit of our God differ from that of your God!🙂
I know you serve Iucifer who deceived you and also pretends to be Jehovah. It seems you love your deceiver
so much, otherwise you'll embrace the Bible's God instead of the god of your doctrines.
Re: Revisiting The Scripture For Better Understanding by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:02pm On Jun 13
FxMasterz:
I know you serve Iucifer who deceived you and also pretends to be Jehovah. It seems you love your deceiver
so much, otherwise you'll embrace the Bible's God instead of the god of your doctrines.
Continue lying to yourself!🤣
Re: Revisiting The Scripture For Better Understanding by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:55pm On Jun 13
Jesus said his disciples should pray for God's Kingdom to come {Matthew 6:10} so that as angels are doing the will of God in heaven the same could be done here on earth!

Oya answer the question using your our Quran nah!

Where will the resurrection be heaven or earth?😂

Explore2xmore:
You sure got more to contend with.
1. The dead and buried on earth body is resurrected for what purpose? Delivery of judgement and passage to where eternity would be spent?

2. Your book says this is the same earth yet it's asked what should it profit a man to gain the whole world and loose his soul?

3. You pray to a father who art in heaven where Jesus goes to prepare a place for you yet it will still be on earth?

4. Is the resurrection in classes that will be separated or what?
Re: Revisiting The Scripture For Better Understanding by FxMasterz: 3:41pm On Jun 13
MaxInDHouse:
Continue lying to yourself!🤣
If you believe doctrines more than the Bible, you're the one lying to yourself. Hope you know? My dear, you won't have any excuse before the Lord Jesus on that day. I am sounding you this warning for your own good.

I know you serve Lucifer who deceived you and pretends to be Jehovah. It seems you love Lucifer so much, otherwise you'll embrace the Bible's God instead of the god of your doctrines.
Re: Revisiting The Scripture For Better Understanding by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:50pm On Jun 13
Go and join Nollywood industry joo!😂
FxMasterz:
If you believe doctrines more than the Bible, you're the one lying to yourself. Hope you know? My dear, you won't have any excuse before the Lord Jesus on that day. I am sounding you this warning for your own good. I know you serve Lucifer who deceived you and pretends to be Jehovah. It seems you love Lucifer so much, otherwise you'll embrace the Bible's God instead of the god of your doctrines.
Re: Revisiting The Scripture For Better Understanding by ccjoe:
MaxInDHouse:
Somehow you missed something vital here!

Peter and the other twelve apostles heard Jesus telling them to go and preach to people of all nations {Matthew 24:14; 28:19-20; Act 1:8} so they knew very well that they must also preach to people of other nations but the issue they had with gentiles is the same issue the Pharisees also have back then.

Jews believe that when it comes to being corulers with the Christ only Jews supposed to be chosen!

The Pharisees themselves believe that Jesus supposed to associate with them since they are custodians of the law so after Jesus has spent all his days in the ministry with only his Jewish disciples they assumed that it's only Jews that will be chosen as the Christ's corulers and of course that's what was written in the scriptures but Jesus made it clear through several illustrations that since the Jews refused to respond urgently to his message people from other nations will become part of the chosen rulers with him in his kingdom.

So when Peter saw that the gift of God's holy spirit manifested in the lives of Cornelius and those who were with him despite being gentiles he realized that the barrier has been broken so now people from other nations will be chosen to rule with Christ in his kingdom though the rest of obedient mankind will enjoy everlasting life on planet earth under the rulership of Christ and his corulers! Matthew 5:5; John 3:16; Psalms 37:29; Surah 21:105
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Re: Revisiting The Scripture For Better Understanding by ccjoe: 4:50pm On Jun 13
MaxInDHouse:
@ Explore2xmore
Whenever anyone comments on your thread regarding the question you asked tell each person to declare the name of his church so you can know where the teaching is coming from otherwise they will just be running in circus.
Whatever you hear from me belongs to Jehovah's Witnesses globally!🙂
No wonder, now i see they're not from scriptures but some organisational believe...that settles it then.
Re: Revisiting The Scripture For Better Understanding by FxMasterz: 6:16pm On Jun 13
MaxInDHouse:
Go and join Nollywood industry joo!😂
Now, the makers of the doctrines, are they your God or the Writer of the Bible?

Who will judge you? The makers of the doctrines or the Inspirer of the Scriptures?

Choose the destination of your soul wisely.
Re: Revisiting The Scripture For Better Understanding by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:27pm On Jun 13
FxMasterz:
Now, the makers of the doctrines, are they your God or the Writer of the Bible? Who will judge you? The makers of the doctrines or the Inspirer of the Scriptures? Choose the destination of your soul wisely.
Go and join Nollywood industry joo!😂

I quoted Jesus for you and showed you the organization that's fulfilling what he said all that you ignored only to keep talking about a useless spirit that's of no practical use anywhere all because you call it the spirit of Christ.
Re: Revisiting The Scripture For Better Understanding by FxMasterz: 6:31pm On Jun 13
MaxInDHouse:
Go and join Nollywood industry joo!😂

I quoted Jesus for you and showed you the organization that's fulfilling what he said all that you ignored only to keep talking about a useless spirit that's of no practical use anywhere all because you call it the spirit of Christ.
Jesus didn't promise eternity to any organization!

The Bible says if you don't have the Spirit of Christ, you are none of His.
Re: Revisiting The Scripture For Better Understanding by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:31pm On Jun 13
ccjoe:
No wonder, now i see they're not from scriptures but some organisational believe...that settles it then.
Ok jàre.🤣
Re: Revisiting The Scripture For Better Understanding by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:34pm On Jun 13
FxMasterz:
Jesus didn't promise eternity to any organization! The Bible says if you don't have the Spirit of Christ, you are none of His.
Continue joking with your soul.
Jesus promised us that we will know his real disciples by the love they have among themselves.
I present the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses known globally for the love they have among themselves you ignored only to keep claiming self righteousness!😂
Re: Revisiting The Scripture For Better Understanding by FxMasterz: 6:42pm On Jun 13
MaxInDHouse:
Continue joking with your soul.
Jesus promised us that we will know his real disciples by the love they have among themselves.
I present the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses known globally for the love they have among themselves you ignored only to keep claiming self righteousness!😂
Give me any promise of Jesus to any organization.
Re: Revisiting The Scripture For Better Understanding by FxMasterz: 9:24pm On Jun 13
MaxInDHouse:
Continue joking with your soul.
Jesus promised us that we will know his real disciples by the love they have among themselves.
I present the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses known globally for the love they have among themselves you ignored only to keep claiming self righteousness!😂
Lol.

That means every organization that loves themselves and call on Jesus, no matter who they think their Jesus is, are Jesus' disciples? Hope you know that there are many organizations that satisfy this criteria.

Love yourselves. Call on Jesus (whatever you think of Jesus doesn't matter. He can be angel Michael or angel Gabriel. You're His disciples anyway. Congratulations!

But God is wise. He's the Only wise. He didn't qualify us by such a hackable criteria. God's criteria is this: "If you have not the Spirit of Christ, you are none of His. Nobody counterfeit that.
Re: Revisiting The Scripture For Better Understanding by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:44pm On Jun 13
FxMasterz:
Hope you know that there are many organizations that satisfy this criteria.
I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another; just as I have loved you, you also love one another. By this all will know that you are my disciples—if you have love among yourselves.” John 13:34-35

Whatever Jehovah's Witnesses call their Jesus is the truth if they succeeded in doing the above!

WHY?

God's word confirmed that the first and foremost attribute of God is LOVE {Galatians 5:22} because God is LOVE! 1John 4:8

No matter how much you hate God's organization you can't change what Jesus the only begotten Son of God said so continue wailing everyone knows that only Jehovah's Witnesses met this criteria that's why none of you can mention any other religion as yours because you've all failed!🤣
Re: Revisiting The Scripture For Better Understanding by FxMasterz: 9:46pm On Jun 13
MaxInDHouse:
I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another; just as I have loved you, you also love one another. By this all will know that you are my disciples—if you have love among yourselves.” John 13:34-35

Whatever Jehovah's Witnesses call their Jesus is the truth if they succeeded in doing the above!

WHY?

God's word confirmed that the first and foremost attribute of God is LOVE {Galatians 5:22} because God is LOVE! 1John 4:8

No matter how much you hate God's organization you can't change what Jesus the only begotten Son of God said so continue wailing everyone knows that only Jehovah's Witnesses met this criteria that's why none of you can mention any other religion as yours because you've all failed!🤣
Lol.

Many organizations say the same things you said above. They love themselves and call on Jesus. You're at par with many such organizations.

But, the distinction God has made about His true servants is that His Spirit is within them.
Re: Revisiting The Scripture For Better Understanding by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:50pm On Jun 13
FxMasterz:
Many organizations say the same things you said above.
Oya mention the name of your own church nah if you are not ashamed? Isaiah 65:13-14


Why hiding behind anonymous nah?😂

Ọmọ it's only the spirit of the true God that can make LOVE reign in the midst of millions of people from different nations throughout the world as if they are all from ONE tribe o. John 17:22

So continue lying to your own soul!🤣
Re: Revisiting The Scripture For Better Understanding by Explore2xmore(op): 6:56am On Jun 14
Now it is very clear how different your views of God and eternity are. Your eternal paradise consists of a merged heaven and earth however new you claim these to be. The questions still remain about a specially two classes of saved people then where exactly is hell since you have located your own heaven in a new earth? Invariably then is why God comes down and not formerly mortal go up to meet the supreme?

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus said his disciples should pray for God's Kingdom to come {Matthew 6:10} so that as angels are doing the will of God in heaven the same could be done here on earth!

Oya answer the question using your our Quran nah!

Where will the resurrection be heaven or earth?😂
Re: Revisiting The Scripture For Better Understanding by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:52am On Jun 14
If you want to learn opportunity to do so is there but when you choose to argue based on what the false religions in the world infused in your head that's your own cup of coffee!🙂

What is the essence of creating earth and putting humans there if heaven is where God intended for humans?

Muhammad knew nothing about God that is why he was mixing everything together.

New heavens and new earth are symbolic terms and it simply means new governments and new subjects who are willing to live with righteousness {2Peter 3:13} not another planet. God has promised never to destroy earth in fact He said this planet earth will last forever! Genesis 8:21-22; Psalms 104:5; Ecclesiastes 1:4
Explore2xmore:
Now it is very clear how different your views of God and eternity are. Your eternal paradise consists of a merged heaven and earth however new you claim these to be. The questions still remain about a specially two classes of saved people then where exactly is hell since you have located your own heaven in a new earth? Invariably then is why God comes down and not formerly mortal go up to meet the supreme?
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