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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 12:25am On Jun 14
basilico:
Iran deal to be signed tomorrow.
Ye who think I'm black man hater. The sleazeball that's Obama got roasted here. Defend him.

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Barack Hussein Obama’s Deal with Iran, the JCPOA, was an easy, beautiful, smooth road to a Nuclear Weapon, which Iran would have had six years ago, and would have used long before now. My Agreement with Iran is the exact opposite, A WALL TO NO NUCLEAR WEAPON! In fact, they no longer want a Nuclear Weapon, nor will they have one, either through purchase, development, or any other form of procurement. The Deal is scheduled to get signed tomorrow, and immediately after it is signed, the Hormuz Strait is OPEN TO ALL. Our relationship with Iran is a much different and better one than previous Administrations have had. Unlike Obama’s Hundreds of Billions of Dollars in payments to them, including 1.7 Billion Dollars in green, cold cash, no money will exchange hands. At the appropriate time, when all is calm, we will go in and get the Nuclear Dust, buried deep under the powerful sunken granite mountains, thanks to our beautiful B-2 Bombers and their brilliant pilots, and downblend and destroy it, whether in Iran, or the United States. We look forward to working with Iran, and the entire Middle East, long into the future. Hopefully, this process will all work out quickly, easily, and smoothly. If it doesn’t, we have the ultimate alternative, hopefully never to be used again! Thank you for your attention to this matter!!! President DONALD J. TRUMP

Clowns! It's not a peace deal. And nothing will be signed tomorrow.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 1:21am On Jun 14
Welcome to Nigeriaesque politics.
Seize ballots to break chain of custody. Encumber operations at polling places. Spread intimidation. Suppress minority votes. Hope for a casus belli.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 1:29am On Jun 14
You mean all of us ordinary citizens whose retirement accounts are being forced to invest in spaceX are envious? We don’t have a right to disagree with nasdaq changing the rules for that company so they can use American future retirees pension to prop it?

I bet you didn’t even know that’s what happened because you’re vibrating on low information like a proper ode.
benalvino3:
You keep saying pay back fairly. What does fairly mean? He has paid the largest reported individual tax bills in U.S. history.

He said he would pay over $11 billion in taxes. So at what point is it enough?

Your real issue is not that he pays nothing. Your issue is that he still has too much left after paying.

That is where it becomes Marxist thinking: not pay tax, but you should not be allowed to accumulate that much wealth.

According to you. I am not exaggerating anything. Read what you write here. Cococandy is the queen of Marxist envy, you are not like her. Stop this line of thinking.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3:
cococandy:
You mean all of us ordinary citizens whose retirement accounts are being forced to invest in spaceX are envious? We don’t have a right to disagree with nasdaq changing the rules for that company so they can use American future retirees pension to prop it?

I bet you didn’t even know that’s what happened because you’re vibrating on low information like a proper ode.
Elon did not personally choose your 401k allocation. Criticize the valuation if you want, but don’t pretend that is the same as Elon forcing retirees to buy his stock.

Did you think of stocks when Tim Walz want your friends to burn Tesla outlets?

Abeg don’t pretend Elon personally reached into people's retirement account and forced them to buy his stock.

That is the problem with you. You don’t separate investment risk criticism from your personal hatred of Billionaires.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 2:13am On Jun 14
Do you even have a 401k to attempt to discuss mine with me?

And is it somehow flying over head that while he might not have physically picked my 401k to invest in his company, the fact that the financial institutions can make exceptions for him and forcefully invest my money in his company in a potentially risky investment is enough for me to call BS when lapdogs like you come here to tell us he’s entirely self made and we are just jealous for not getting on the worship train with you?

You thoughtlessly seek interaction so badly I have to wonder who’s denying you affection. The way you get so excited to be mentioned. Like the Pavlovian dogs when they hear the bell ring for food. (Read up on it-if you can understand), and think well before you quote me again. Don’t be getting too excited when you get mentioned that you don’t stop to think before you post.

Ces’t Pathetiqué

benalvino3:
Elon did not personally choose your 401k allocation. Criticize the valuation if you want, but don’t pretend that is the same as Elon forcing retirees to buy his stock.

Did you think of stocks when Tim Walz want your friend to burn Tesla outlets?

Abeg don’t pretend Elon personally reached into people's retirement account and forced them to buy his stock.

That is the problem with you. You don’t separate investment-risk criticism from your personal hatred of Billionaires.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 2:37am On Jun 14
cococandy:
Do you even have a 401k to attempt to discuss mine with me?

And is it somehow flying over head that while he might not have physically picked my 401k to invest in his company, the fact that the financial institutions can make exceptions for him and forcefully invest my money in his company in a potentially risky investment is enough for me to call BS when lapdogs like you come here to tell us he’s entirely self made and we are just jealous for not getting on the worship train with you?

You thoughtlessly seek interaction so badly I have to wonder who’s denying you affection. The way you get so excited to be mentioned. Like the Pavlovian dogs when they hear the bell ring for food. (Read up on it-if you can understand), and think well before you quote me again. Don’t be getting too excited when you get mentioned that you don’t stop to think before you post.

Ces’t Pathetiqué
It may be that you don't even have a 401K. Your problem is with nasdaq and politicians not Elon.

If you care about risk at least know who is risking your 401k if you ever have one and not relying on what you read on those your sites that attracts gullible people.

don’t pretend Elon personally reached into your retirement account and picked your investments.

Your anger is aimed at the wrong target.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 4:26am On Jun 14
It's wickedness and envy.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:17am On Jun 14
Hillary Clinton says most real people,most rural people and most older people don't have IDs.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 7:28am On Jun 14
cococandy:
Welcome to Nigeriaesque politics.
Seize ballots to break chain of custody. Encumber operations at polling places. Spread intimidation. Suppress minority votes. Hope for a casus belli.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 7:31am On Jun 14
cococandy:
Welcome to Nigeriaesque politics.
Seize ballots to break chain of custody. Encumber operations at polling places. Spread intimidation. Suppress minority votes. Hope for a casus belli.
The US MC Oluomo, APC and old PDP versions..

America on its path to becoming a third world country… and being cheered by insane Nigerians..

To know that republicans have also won elections just like the Democrats under the current electoral system of the US, should make sensible humans worry about the recent push by republicans (under their god Trump) to interfere in elections.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:57am On Jun 14
bayelsaowei:
The US MC Oluomo, APC and old PDP versions..

America on its path to becoming a third world country… and being cheered by insane Nigerians..

To know that republicans have also won elections just like the Democrats under the current electoral system of the US, should make sensible humans worry about the recent push by republicans (under their god Trump) to interfere in elections.
What steps has Trump taken to interfere in elections?
I come in 🕊️ peace 🙏
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:58am On Jun 14
On thid you are most probably right ,the regime hardliners are used to getting their way.



nateevs:
Clowns! It's not a peace deal. And nothing will be signed tomorrow.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f):
What anger? Don’t project your emotions onto me.

The rest of your posts? Empty . Devoid of substance. In the typical punching above your intellectual weight limit fashion.

We are casually sliding past the fact that he used DOGE to dismantle any organizations that might have held him accountable and/or protected consumers from the irresponsible decisions of the financial institutions. This is quite literally the end result of him enthroning himself by removing any checks and balances that could’ve protected any retirees who are about to lose their savings. But you think it’s not his doing

Such a big intellectually lazy cornball that you can’t even connect one dot to another.

benalvino3:
It may be that you don't even have a 401K. Your problem is with nasdaq and politicians not Elon.

If you care about risk at least know who is risking your 401k if you ever have one and not relying on what you read on those your sites that attracts gullible people.

don’t pretend Elon personally reached into your retirement account and picked your investments.

Your anger is aimed at the wrong target.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 11:09am On Jun 14
Republicans are going to spend hundreds of billions that we don’t have to fund Trump’s endless war and line the pockets of the military industrial complex, which now includes members of Trump’s family.

Nothing for you, but a fortune for war.
Trimming the bloated govt 🤡🤡🤡

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 11:37am On Jun 14
About to give them way more than they had under the Obama deal. What a loser

Art of the deal🥴


Going from Obama to Trump, was like going from a smartphone, to two cans with a string.

Conservatives are about to change their tune so fast on why this is good. Mindless unoriginal losers.

Iranian state media Mehr News has now published what it claims is the draft agreement with Trump. Here are the terms they claim is in the deal:

• A permanent and immediate cessation of war on all fronts, including Lebanon.

• The United States and its allies would be required to present reconstruction plans for Iran worth at least $300 billion.

• A U.S. commitment not to interfere in Iran’s internal affairs and to respect the sovereignty of the Islamic Republic of Iran.

• Full lifting of the naval blockade within 30 days.

• A U.S. commitment to withdraw its forces from areas surrounding Iran.

• Reopening of the Strait of Hormuz within 30 days under arrangements determined by Iran.

• Suspension of sanctions on the sale of oil, petrochemical products, and related derivatives, along with full Iranian access to the resulting financial revenues.

• A 60-day negotiation period aimed at reaching a final agreement covering nuclear issues and the complete removal of U.S. primary and secondary sanctions, as well as the repeal of relevant resolutions of the UN Security Council and the IAEA Board of Governors.

• Reaffirmation by Iran of its commitment under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) not to produce nuclear weapons.

• During the negotiation period, the United States would commit not to deploy additional forces to the region and not to impose any new sanctions.

• The release of $24 billion in frozen Iranian assets during the 60-day final negotiation period. Half of this amount must be made available to Iran before negotiations begin.

• Establishment of a monitoring mechanism to oversee implementation of the agreement.

• The final agreement would be approved through a UN Security Council resolution.

• Final negotiations would not begin before the release of half of Iran’s frozen assets, the suspension of oil sanctions, and the lifting of the naval blockade.

• The final agreement would focus exclusively on the future of enriched nuclear material and uranium enrichment, sanctions relief, and a program for rebuilding Iran’s economy. Discussion of Iran’s missile program and its support for resistance groups would be definitively excluded from the agenda.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 12:39pm On Jun 14
cococandy:
What anger? Don’t project your emotions onto me.

The rest of your posts? Empty . Devoid of substance. In the typical punching above your intellectual weight limit fashion.

We are casually sliding past the fact that he used DOGE to dismantle any organizations that might have held him accountable and/or protected consumers from the irresponsible decisions of the financial institutions. This is quite literally the end result of him enthroning himself by removing any checks and balances that could’ve protected any retirees who are about to lose their savings. But you think it’s not his doing

Such a big intellectually lazy cornball that you can’t even connect one dot to another.
This is your initial post on this matter:
cococandy:
I usually don’t respond to people who don’t read or know what they are talking about. And obviously he doesn’t have any investment in American 401k retirement funds. So obviously he can yap and foam at the mouth because his money is not propping Elon up.

Those of us who have been working and investing for years in what’s supposed to be a safe retirement will be forced to buy into Elon’s company in what could potentially be a burst. But what do I know. I’m just jealous.
You are now moving the argument to DOGE because your original point was weak.

Your original claim was that ordinary people’s retirement accounts are being “forced” to invest in SpaceX because of index-fund exposure.

That is a financial-market/index-rule argument.
So the proper targets are Nasdaq, index providers and your politicians. Allow Elon to rest.

Now you are trying to connect DOGE to everything and accuse him of dismantling organizations that would have held him accountable. Another baseless claim you cannot prove.

If your point is SpaceX might be overvalued. Okay, but it still has nothing to do with my point of him being a trillionaire, an unrealized money.

This is another point you and bayelsaowei don't understand, you think he has $1 trillion sitting in his bank account? I doubt he even has up to $20 billion sitting in his account.

If the stock does badly, will he remain a trillionaire?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 12:42pm On Jun 14
cococandy:
About to give them way more than they had under the Obama deal. What a loser

Art of the deal🥴


Going from Obama to Trump, was like going from a smartphone, to two cans with a string.

Conservatives are about to change their tune so fast on why this is good. Mindless unoriginal losers.
Who takes news from Iranian state media 😂 gudlawd.

They are protesting in Iran right now and infighting for accepting the deal. So disregard anything Trump says or the news says for now.

Trump does not even understand he is dealing with terrorists, he is shouting deals up and down.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 2:36pm On Jun 14
benalvino3:
It's wickedness and envy.

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Thats the main problem of the left. Envy

Someone does something instead of them trying to do theirs, they obsess about bringing him down

Elon is a trillionaire because people buy and invest in his companies stocks. Anyone that is angry that Elon is worth that much shoupd sell their stocks so the value can crash

Don't be shocked that all those crying about Elon all have SpaceX and Tesla stocks in their portfolio which has made them richer(See Tim Wlaz) but they are pointing at Elon because they are envious that he is richer than them

If you dont like Elon, sell his company stocks or refuse to buy his products
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 3:41pm On Jun 14
raumdeuter:
Thats the main problem of the left. Envy

Someone does something instead of them trying to do theirs, they obsess about bringing him down

Elon is a trillionaire because people buy and invest in his companies stocks. Anyone that is angry that Elon is worth that much shoupd sell their stocks so the value can crash

Don't be shocked that all those crying about Elon all have SpaceX and Tesla stocks in their portfolio which has made them richer(See Tim Wlaz) but they are pointing at Elon because they are envious that he is richer than them

If you dont like Elon, sell his company stocks or refuse to buy his products
Yeah? Because people buy and invest in his companies, not because the government gave him tax payer money to grow his Business.
Government money for me, none for thee.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 3:45pm On Jun 14
cococandy:
About to give them way more than they had under the Obama deal. What a loser

Art of the deal🥴


Going from Obama to Trump, was like going from a smartphone, to two cans with a string.

Conservatives are about to change their tune so fast on why this is good. Mindless unoriginal losers.
Imagine the excess money that the US spent and will spend because Trump decided to kill Obama's deal.

At the core it's a simple fact. You want a country that has all the rights of self-determination to do something you want them to do, they are going to want something in return.
There was always going to be a pot of money at the end of negotiations.
Republicans think that Americans are the only country/people that yearn for self-determination.

But it was easier for Republicans to propagandize about it and deny that reality because they weren't the ones who had to negotiate it.
Made even easier because their voters are gullible and uneducated.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 3:47pm On Jun 14
cococandy:
What anger? Don’t project your emotions onto me.

The rest of your posts? Empty . Devoid of substance. In the typical punching above your intellectual weight limit fashion.

We are casually sliding past the fact that he used DOGE to dismantle any organizations that might have held him accountable and/or protected consumers from the irresponsible decisions of the financial institutions. This is quite literally the end result of him enthroning himself by removing any checks and balances that could’ve protected any retirees who are about to lose their savings. But you think it’s not his doing

Such a big intellectually lazy cornball that you can’t even connect one dot to another.
Guy just copies and pastes phrases he doesn't even understand from AI and strings them together .
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:51pm On Jun 14
IjeBos:
Yeah? Because people buy and invest in his companies, not because the government gave him tax payer money to grow his Business.
Government money for me, none for thee.
When you have an idea and not be a lazy bum, govt will give you the same loans and contracts they gave to Elons company

He got a govt loan and repaid 9yrs early with interest and penalties, He provides a service which govt gave him a contract to execute and he did, including rescuing Astronauts stuck in space

Now you do the same and stop being envious
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 3:58pm On Jun 14
Ok..

Before they enter one chance..

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 4:08pm On Jun 14
IjeBos:
Guy just copies and pastes phrases he doesn't even understand from AI and strings them together .
The steupidest group of people to exist in modern day have to be present day republicans. Because one of them says something that’s totally bunkum and the rest start regurgitating it even though it sounds asinine.

It was one of their talking head podcast bros that first said democrats are jealous of billionaires and the rest of them started repeating it without an ounce of thought.

Realistically you can envy someone in the same social class as you if you feel they have something that you seek to attain. A billionaire is thousand times richer than a millionaire. A millionaire who thinks they’re in the same class as a billionaire is a delusional person. Now imagine a “thousandnaire” thinking they’re somehow in the same reality as a billionaire.

That if they don’t “envy” and work hard too, if they happily subscribe to using their taxes to prop up top heavy corporations, that one day, the billionaires and the politicians in their pockets will turn the hands of corruption in their favor and let them partake in the spoils.

It’s actually pathetic to observe the simple mindedness on display. It’s like accusing a Nigerian who legitimately feels like they have been wronged by Dangote (for example) of jealousy because they are not singing his praises.

Weak men are disgusting
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 4:10pm On Jun 14
You know they’re nothing if not hypocritical. Always projecting their views and feelings onto others.

Trumps jealousy of Obama’s charisma is the reason why a lot of these issues are raining on us.

He was so insecure and envious he sought to undo anything with Obama’s name on it.

Look at what it’s costing us.

IjeBos:
Imagine the excess money that the US spent and will spend because Trump decided to kill Obama's deal.

At the core it's a simple fact. You want a country that has all the rights of self-determination to do something you want them to do, they are going to want something in return.
There was always going to be a pot of money at the end of negotiations.
Republicans think that Americans are the only country/people that yearn for self-determination.

But it was easier for Republicans to propagandize about it and deny that reality because they weren't the ones who had to negotiate it.
Made even easier because their voters are gullible and uneducated.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 4:18pm On Jun 14
IjeBos:
Yeah? Because people buy and invest in his companies, not because the government gave him tax payer money to grow his Business.
Government money for me, none for thee.
Envious take 😂

That's what government do. Elon is not unique. Envy envy
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 4:21pm On Jun 14
IjeBos:
Yeah? Because people buy and invest in his companies, not because the government gave him tax payer money to grow his Business.
Government money for me, none for thee.
They can keep arguing. But Elon must pay his dues adequately and proportionately to the US GOVERNMENT…

That man gut the jobs of many Americans.. no forgiveness for that..
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 4:23pm On Jun 14
benalvino3:
Envious take 😂

That's what government do. Elon is not unique. Envy envy
The same govt gave Solyndra a loan
Tesla received a $465 million DOE loan around the same period and repaid it in full, with interest, in 2013. Solyndra received a $535 million loan guarantee and went bankrupt, leaving taxpayers with most of the loss

The left are not mad at the person that failed and lost money, they are mad at someone who succeeded, paid the loans back, employed thousands, solved major problems in the world, made others richer

Envy cannot be explained, they just mask it with words
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 4:25pm On Jun 14
bayelsaowei:
They can keep arguing. But Elon must pay his dues adequately and proportionately to the US GOVERNMENT…

That man gut the jobs of many Americans.. no forgiveness for that..
Elon has paid his loan he took 9yrs earlier than due with interest, He has paid the highest amount of taxes in US history, he has employed thousands, made thousands richer, solved critical issues

What else do you need him to do to resolve your envy
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 4:25pm On Jun 14
Elon vs Bernie

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