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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 4:26pm On Jun 14
raumdeuter:
When you have an idea and not be a lazy bum, govt will give you the same loans and contracts they gave to Elons company

He got a govt loan and repaid 9yrs early with interest and penalties, He provides a service which govt gave him a contract to execute and he did, including rescuing Astronauts stuck in space

Now you do the same and stop being envious
You should figure out what you stand for.
It used to be a core Republican tenant that the government didn't pick winners and losers.

It was Dem states and Dem presidents that gave him those loans and oportunites while Republicans were fighting against electric vehicles.
It's the height of ridiculousness to now argue that Musk didn't benefit from social goodwill and taxpayer help to get where he is.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 4:28pm On Jun 14
benalvino3:
Envious take 😂

That's what government do. Elon is not unique. Envy envy
there is something else governments do.. they tax the ultra rich adequately for which they’ve created an enabling environment for them to thrive..
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 4:29pm On Jun 14
IjeBos:
You should figure out what you stand for.
It used to be a core Republican tenant that the government didn't pick winners and losers.

It was Dem states and Dem presidents that gave him those loans and oportunites while Republicans were fighting against electric vehicles.
It's the height of ridiculousness to now argue that Musk didn't benefit from social goodwill and taxpayer help to get where he is.
Everyone benefits from social goodwill, you also benefitted from it and what have you done with your own goodwill besides being a serial whiner and loser

Create something of value and provide a solution which govt needs and they will patronize you. I know that part is difficult, its easier to whine, hate and complain. You dont have to use Elon products and or buy his company stocks
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 4:31pm On Jun 14
bayelsaowei:
there is something else governments do.. they tax the ultra rich adequately for which they’ve created an enabling environment for them to thrive..
These ultra rich did not pluck money from the skies, they made their wealth by creating solutions, So why should they be taxed more than you for example?
The same environment is available to you, You can also go there and create these billions for yourself

Not punishing success is why every smart person or person with exceptional talent in the world want to be in America
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 4:31pm On Jun 14
cococandy:
The steupidest group of people to exist in modern day have to be present day republicans. Because one of them says something that’s totally bunkum and the rest start regurgitating it even though it sounds asinine.

It was one of their talking head podcast bros that first said democrats are jealous of billionaires and the rest of them started repeating it without an ounce of thought.

Realistically you can envy someone in the same social class as you if you feel they have something that you seek to attain. A billionaire is thousand times richer than a millionaire. A millionaire who thinks they’re in the same class as a billionaire is a delusional person. Now imagine a “thousandnaire” thinking they’re somehow in the same reality as a billionaire.

That if they don’t “envy” and work hard too, if they happily subscribe to using their taxes to prop up top heavy corporations, that one day, the billionaires and the politicians in their pockets will turn the hands of corruption in their favor and let them partake in the spoils.

It’s actually pathetic to observe the simple mindedness on display. It’s like accusing a Nigerian who legitimately feels like they have been wronged by Dangote (for example) of jealousy because they are not singing his praises.

Weak men are disgusting
I think that the Musk is the first US trillionaire says more about where the US is and where the country was.
A sets up a situation where one person is too big to fail esp. how the US is integrated in Spacex.
Never should have happened. I am comfortable taxing anyone 100% for every dollar above 250 Billion dollars.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 4:34pm On Jun 14
IjeBos:
I think that the Musk is the first US trillionaire says more about where the US is and where the country was.
A sets up a situation where one person is too big to fail esp. how the US is integrated in Spacex.
Never should have happened. I am comfortable taxing anyone 100% for every dollar above 250 Billion dollars.
Braindead opinion usually proposed by losers

Say Mr John is worth 250bn, but has an idea that can solve cancer which if successful will net him another 100bn. Which he will invest his time, money and effort to achieve, employ people who he takes off poverty and give a means of livelihood, which he can fail at but if successful double his worth. So you are okay with him not solving cancer because he will become richer and make money but let cancer continue so that Mr John doesn't get richer

That is how envious people sound
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 4:41pm On Jun 14
cococandy:
You know they’re nothing if not hypocritical. Always projecting their views and feelings onto others.

Trumps jealousy of Obama’s charisma is the reason why a lot of these issues are raining on us.

He was so insecure and envious he sought to undo anything with Obama’s name on it.

Look at what it’s costing us.
Yup, just wanted to cancel everything without any plan or thought of future costs.

In the case of ObamaCare republicans were smarter.
They ran on an easy replacement, yet decades later still don't have a plan.
Fortunately, they had sense to fight back against their own spin.

In this case they believed their own BS.
They argued (let Israel tell them) that the JCPOA didn't go far enough, that there was some magical way that they could reign in Iran's Nuclear ambitions, missile development and use of Proxies without giving them a dime or costing US Billions.
That somehow, Iran would be comfortable with Israel being the only middle east country with nuclear weapons and advanced missles.

That's the problem with Republicans. They will accuse anyone who has any realistic conversation on matters that are sensitive to them that may help gameplan outcomes with siding with the enemy or hating America.

Now here we are. Something anyone should have been able to realize years ago.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 4:45pm On Jun 14
raumdeuter:
Braindead opinion usually proposed by losers

Say Mr John is worth 250bn, but has an idea that can solve cancer which if successful will net him another 100bn. Which he will invest his time, money and effort to achieve, employ people who he takes off poverty and give a means of livelihood, which he can fail at but if successful double his worth. So you are okay with him not solving cancer because he will become richer and make money but let cancer continue so that Mr John doesn't get richer

That is how envious people sound
Yeah, have you met a cancer researcher or people who spend years in school to get their PHDs? You should ask them why they do it.

Your argument is that the only reason people do good is because there is an enormous pot of goal for them to do good and that 250 Billion dollars is not a big enough pot.
Yeah, your argument tracks with why Nigeria is the way it is right now.
The problem is that you are Nigerian and can't even see that link.

Imagine saying someone is worth 250 Billion dollars and the only way they will help cure cancer and stop people from dying is if they can make another 100 Billion.

Broken people.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 4:47pm On Jun 14
raumdeuter:
Everyone benefits from social goodwill, you also benefitted from it and what have you done with your own goodwill besides being a serial whiner and loser

Create something of value and provide a solution which govt needs and they will patronize you. I know that part is difficult, its easier to whine, hate and complain. You dont have to use Elon products and or buy his company stocks
Instead of spending hours writing these childish posts, you should figure what you believe as a Republican.
Go sit with yourself and think hard about it.
You don't really seem to have any real values, just what you think momentarily sounds good from post to post.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 4:53pm On Jun 14
IjeBos:
Yeah, have you met a cancer researcher or people who spend years in school to get their PHDs? You should ask them why they do it.

Your argument is that the only reason people do good is because there is an enormous pot of goal for them to do good and that 250 Billion dollars is not a big enough pot.
Yeah, your argument tracks with why Nigeria is the way it is right now.
The problem is that you are Nigerian and can't even see that link.
The cancer researcher gets paid for his work, his research costs money, Someone has to fund that. And if his goals is to become rich off of it, then good, and he solves societal problems

Maybe you should tell a doctor to work for minimum wage too and focus on doing good for free, Since his housing, and living expenses are free too. You obviously dont think a lot do you?

Elon is making Neuralink which will make blind people have ability to see, So he should rather leave it undone so that he doesn't get richer

Actually on the flip side its why America has been so successful because it tells everyone around the world that you bring your talent and you can make enough money for it

Point to any society that has that limit on success and is making breakthroughs in innovations
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 4:54pm On Jun 14
IjeBos:
Instead of spending hours writing these childish posts, you should figure what you believe as a Republican.
Go sit with yourself and think hard about it.
You don't really seem to have any real values, just what you think momentarily sounds good from post to post.
You should actually ask yourself what is the point of your existence, people do things you are mad at them while you can barely lift your behind to get anything done

If you have a goo idea, pitch it to the populace including govt they might patronize you
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 4:59pm On Jun 14
cococandy:
The steupidest group of people to exist in modern day have to be present day republicans. Because one of them says something that’s totally bunkum and the rest start regurgitating it even though it sounds asinine.

It was one of their talking head podcast bros that first said democrats are jealous of billionaires and the rest of them started repeating it without an ounce of thought.

Realistically you can envy someone in the same social class as you if you feel they have something that you seek to attain. A billionaire is thousand times richer than a millionaire. A millionaire who thinks they’re in the same class as a billionaire is a delusional person. Now imagine a “thousandnaire” thinking they’re somehow in the same reality as a billionaire.

That if they don’t “envy” and work hard too, if they happily subscribe to using their taxes to prop up top heavy corporations, that one day, the billionaires and the politicians in their pockets will turn the hands of corruption in their favor and let them partake in the spoils.

It’s actually pathetic to observe the simple mindedness on display. It’s like accusing a Nigerian who legitimately feels like they have been wronged by Dangote (for example) of jealousy because they are not singing his praises.

Weak men are disgusting
You guys have issues with someone making more money, something he chooses to do.

The sky is the limit. Anyone who wants a bagillion trillion dollars can go for it. What they do with it is their business, as long as it is moral.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 5:03pm On Jun 14
benalvino3:
You guys have issues with someone making more money, something he chooses to do.

The sky is the limit. Anyone who wants a bagillion trillion dollars can go for it. What they do with it is their business, as long as it is moral.
The only reason they are mad at Elon is because he supports Trump.

Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, Bloomberg, George Soros are all billionaires and extremely rich, they do not have this same vitriol for them because they support Democrats. If Elon was a democrat donating to them like Soros they will be singing his praises

Its basic envy
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m):
raumdeuter:
Point to any society that has that limit on success and is making breakthroughs in innovations
You mean like the US?

We ask soldiers to go and die for the benefit of the US, but to save lives for the benefit of the US you have to be paid billions.
Broken people.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 5:06pm On Jun 14
IjeBos:
You mean like the US?

We ask soldiers to go and die for the benefit of the US, but to save lies for the benefit of the US you have to be paid billions.
Broken people.
Soldiers go and die to save their country which the left hate so much, The US gives so much benefit which is why many people all over the world want to be here, Same reason why you hate it but refuse to leave it

Lazy Envious people. Dont go out and work, be monitoring other peoples wallet
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 5:12pm On Jun 14
benalvino3:
You guys have issues with someone making more money, something he chooses to do.

The sky is the limit. Anyone who wants a bagillion trillion dollars can go for it. What they do with it is their business, as long as it is moral .
And it shouldn’t involve my money.

Stop engaging in conversations above you. If your retirement is through your employer, you may not be able to opt out. If people’s passive retirement investments through their employer are forced to buy into it, (very likely), all those people will lose money. And they can’t opt out after the purchase.

Many ordinary citizens who have their retirement accounts in passive investments letting the financial institutions invest their retirement funds were not consulted before the rules got changed overnight to accommodate spaceX. And their fund will be sunk into before they even know what’s going on.

Talking to you gives me a headache. Loud and wrong. Always wanna chime in. But perpetually ignorant.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 5:18pm On Jun 14
What’s amusing to me about this whole thread is the low self esteem bottom feeder pretending his jealousy is not what he’s projecting onto others. Like if he says it long enough it will somehow take the stench of pathetic off him.

So amusingly transparent. 🫢
Yep if you call your obvious better jealous and envious long enough, we’ll suddenly stop seeing you for the wannabe you are. 🤣🤣

#If the shoes fits!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 5:22pm On Jun 14
Watch them start justifying all the losses we incurred in this silly war. They’re just hanging around waiting to be given talking points. As soon as they have their marching orders, they’ll run off and start babbling the same thing all over in their usual one-shared-brain-cell pattern.

IjeBos:
Yup, just wanted to cancel everything without any plan or thought of future costs.

In the case of ObamaCare republicans were smarter.
They ran on an easy replacement, yet decades later still don't have a plan.
Fortunately, they had sense to fight back against their own spin.

In this case they believed their own BS.
They argued (let Israel tell them) that the JCPOA didn't go far enough, that there was some magical way that they could reign in Iran's Nuclear ambitions, missile development and use of Proxies without giving them a dime or costing US Billions.
That somehow, Iran would be comfortable with Israel being the only middle east country with nuclear weapons and advanced missles.

That's the problem with Republicans. They will accuse anyone who has any realistic conversation on matters that are sensitive to them that may help gameplan outcomes with siding with the enemy or hating America.

Now here we are. Something anyone should have been able to realize years ago.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Kaczynski: 5:25pm On Jun 14
cococandy:
What’s amusing to me about this whole thread is the low self esteem bottom feeder pretending his jealousy is not what he’s projecting onto others. Like if he says it long enough it will somehow take the stench of pathetic off him.

So amusingly transparent. 🫢
Yep if you call your obvious better jealous and envious long enough, we’ll suddenly stop seeing you for the wannabe you are. 🤣🤣

#If the shoes fits!

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 5:52pm On Jun 14
cococandy:
Watch them start justifying all the losses we incurred in this silly war. They’re just hanging around waiting to be given talking points. As soon as they have their marching orders, they’ll run off and start babbling the same thing all over in their usual one-shared-brain-cell pattern.
Exactly, I'm sure they'll be soon arguing how smart it was for Trump to give Iran all the things he did in exchange for the deal.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by RodgersAkpafu: 5:52pm On Jun 14
So Iran and America is gonna end up doing a JCPOA deal....

This administration should be absolutely ashamed of themselves
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 5:59pm On Jun 14
cococandy:
What’s amusing to me about this whole thread is the low self esteem bottom feeder pretending his jealousy is not what he’s projecting onto others. Like if he says it long enough it will somehow take the stench of pathetic off him.

So amusingly transparent. 🫢
Yep if you call your obvious better jealous and envious long enough, we’ll suddenly stop seeing you for the wannabe you are. 🤣🤣

#If the shoes fits!
As if they can seed the narrative by the force of writing it over and over and over again, it will make it a reality and make people forget who they are.
Well to be fair to them, they have seen Trump use it to great effect on them.

But, the level of insecurity that drives the whole MAGA movement is so sad to see.
As you said this thread wreaks of it.

That's why they are always getting taking advantage of, whether it be Trump family grifts or foreigners pretending be to be MAGA women to dupe them out of their money
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:14pm On Jun 14
Pension fund managers are many in an open competitive market..Who would force a private employer to invest their pensions in a particular company stock?

There is a very easy way if you want to have a direct say on where your pensions are invested.

cococandy:
And it shouldn’t involve my money.

Stop engaging in conversations above you. If your retirement is through your employer, you may not be able to opt out. If people’s passive retirement investments through their employer are forced to buy into it, (very likely), all those people will lose money. And they can’t opt out after the purchase.

Many ordinary citizens who have their retirement accounts in passive investments letting the financial institutions invest their retirement funds were not consulted before the rules got changed overnight to accommodate spaceX. And their fund will be sunk into before they even know what’s going on.

Talking to you gives me a headache. Loud and wrong. Always wanna chime in. But perpetually ignorant.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 6:18pm On Jun 14
See this actor..🤣🤣

Them wan deceive our dumbo Trump worshippers like basilico, raumdeuter, benalvino3 etc..

🤣🤣😅😅..

Trump has wasted the time of many Americans and plunged them into an affordability crisis, all for a rubbish war..

OBOY!!

See mvmv Hegseth..

🤣🤣😅😅

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 6:20pm On Jun 14
bayelsaowei:
there is something else governments do.. they tax the ultra rich adequately for which they’ve created an enabling environment for them to thrive..
But they are already doing that.

You can talk about loopholes, but Trump answered Hillary Clinton very well when she talked about loopholes. He did not deny it, he said he uses them and asked her to block them.

Watch that presidential debate.

But I will repeat this again: when taxes are too high, people with money leave.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:21pm On Jun 14
raumdeuter:
Elon vs Bernie
Someone on CNN thinks Elon Musk has a trillion dollars sitting in a bank.

you spent a million dollars every single day, it would take you more than 2700 years to spend a trillion dollars," Champion said. "What you could effectively do with a trillion dollars is get rid of global poverty. You could end world hunger, you could cure major diseases like malaria, and you could completely transition the global energy sector to renewables. The fact that he has this type of money only tells me that his power will be more prevalent and that I could not — I cannot guarantee someone like this man would use his power for good."
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 6:23pm On Jun 14
benalvino3:
You guys have issues with someone making more money, something he chooses to do.

The sky is the limit. Anyone who wants a bagillion trillion dollars can go for it. What they do with it is their business, as long as it is moral.
like buying elections or persuading voters by the use of cash?

That’s moral??
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:30pm On Jun 14
bayelsaowei:
like buying elections or persuading voters by the use of cash?

That’s moral??
Complete utter rubbish. Elections are heavily financed by individuals and corporations. Zuckerbucks spent $400 million in 2020 more than what Elon spent. where's your complaint.
Biden was offering to write off student loans just before elections also. Who foots the bill in such a case?
Sour grapes.. The evil green eyed monster of jealousy.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 6:31pm On Jun 14
cococandy:
Watch them start justifying all the losses we incurred in this silly war. They’re just hanging around waiting to be given talking points. As soon as they have their marching orders, they’ll run off and start babbling the same thing all over in their usual one-shared-brain-cell pattern.
Hegseth just gave them a talking point.. expect that point to be repeated and rebroadcasted till it hypnotizes other dull people - that have supported a meaningless and totally failed war. I remember when the strikes started against Iran and how we warned the olodos on this group of what the outcome would be.. FUTILITY!!!!

A war that has thrown the whole world into chaos and made living harder even for the American people..
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 7:03pm On Jun 14
bayelsaowei:
like buying elections or persuading voters by the use of cash?

That’s moral??
They can only make donations like every other person.

They don't buy elections. It's the people who run the elections that buy votes and commit other frauds.

If it were how you say it, he would have bought the LA mayoral election.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 7:11pm On Jun 14
bayelsaowei:
See this actor..🤣🤣

Them wan deceive our dumbo Trump worshippers like basilico, raumdeuter, benalvino3 etc..

🤣🤣😅😅..

Trump has wasted the time of many Americans and plunged them into an affordability crisis, all for a rubbish war..

OBOY!!

See mvmv Hegseth..

🤣🤣😅😅
Why are you posting crap from a propaganda social media outlet?
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