China’s Universities Cut 12,000 ‘Obsolete’ Degrees Amid Race To Embrace AI Era - Education (4)

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Re: China’s Universities Cut 12,000 ‘Obsolete’ Degrees Amid Race To Embrace AI Era by QuinQQ: 8:16pm On Jun 14

franchasng:
Country that have focus.

Tell me why Nigerian universities and polytechnics are still running the below programs if not that they have swore to destroy Nigeria:

Marketing
Mass Communication
Public Administration
Animal Husbandry
Guidance and Counseling
Sociology
Bee Rearing
Physical Education
Literature
etc
etc

Well, if you don't have animal husbandry who will marry the animals?? grin

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Re: China’s Universities Cut 12,000 ‘Obsolete’ Degrees Amid Race To Embrace AI Era by QuinQQ: 8:20pm On Jun 14

gracias124:
a lots of degrees are useless, including the one I have.
I have never earn shishi with it and it has become useless. what a waste of 4 years of my life

Take heart, you're not alone. Even some who are successful never used their degree - take Oyakhilome and Oyedepo, both of whom studied and graduated a hard course like architecture. See below

Re: China’s Universities Cut 12,000 ‘Obsolete’ Degrees Amid Race To Embrace AI Era by Flangelo12: 8:36pm On Jun 14

ponishah:
Why una problem for this country Na to remain poking forever?
First thing that came to your mind is "China is ahead world". You don't have any right to compare, because you don't know anything.
Read, appreciate and reflect.

Everything be una like "Ronaldo and Messi.

How is it your business what my proclamation is?

Do you know my qualification, experience or exposure?

Imagine this...

Re: China’s Universities Cut 12,000 ‘Obsolete’ Degrees Amid Race To Embrace AI Era by Reverseng: 9:51pm On Jun 14

Hi. I like your train of thought

I believe you'll find this read inspiring

https://www.nairaland.com/8681734/tech-bros-girls-nigeria-failing

https://www.nairaland.com/8603403/moral-continued-hardwork-morality-slaves

https://www.nairaland.com/8591634/what-wanted-ask-it-shall#137991453

BodePolScience:
The knowledge from these courses may be important, inspiring and uplifting but they should be studied outside the 4 walls of a university; and these should be studied only by those who automatically just have passion and interest in them.

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Re: China’s Universities Cut 12,000 ‘Obsolete’ Degrees Amid Race To Embrace AI Era by 3kay945(m): 9:55pm On Jun 14

omoadeleye:
Degrees like public health, psychology, and all

Psychology may not be major course but still useful.

Re: China’s Universities Cut 12,000 ‘Obsolete’ Degrees Amid Race To Embrace AI Era by MemoriesAndMe: 10:30pm On Jun 14

emapeteum:
AI helps, not absolute as such. AI will not go into the field, gather data, and implement the outcome of such. Original ideas remain to be investigated in those fields.

AI is growing. The story will be different in a year from now, versus some school curriculums that have been stagnant for decades. Many teachers and professors teach same thing every term/semester without paying attention to growing trends.

How many schools teach social media or AI in Nigeria? Yet, several people see them as a means of income today. Sometimes, we just need to adapt to the tide and not stay buried in some analog mindsets.

Even all organizations that want to stay competitive prioritize AI in their organizations, so theres nothing wrong with nations prioritizing AI to stay competitive with other nations that may think backward.

Re: China’s Universities Cut 12,000 ‘Obsolete’ Degrees Amid Race To Embrace AI Era by Cousin9999: 1:42am On Jun 15

1. People who use the phrase "useless degrees" don't realize how stupid they sound.

2. If more Nigerian politicians and the average person had these "useless" degrees, maybe there would be less chaos, violence, and poverty.

3. China is the same country full of depraved idiots who do this:

https://www.ebony.com/the-natasha-doll-controversy-explained-has-it-crossed-into-real-world-abuse/

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Re: China’s Universities Cut 12,000 ‘Obsolete’ Degrees Amid Race To Embrace AI Era by ariesbull: 6:39am On Jun 15

Why study Zoology when we have Vet medicine

Well Zoology is study of animals

TheStoriesOfMan:
Zoology? No

Anatomy? Yes. The anatomy should be divided into human anatomy, animal anatomy and organical anatomy.

Re: China’s Universities Cut 12,000 ‘Obsolete’ Degrees Amid Race To Embrace AI Era by Nwaikpe: 7:02am On Jun 15

femi4:
You are right, I dont know again after 25yrs

Better.

Just like saying 25 years ago, I worked on Laplace Transforms; therefore, it is now obsolete, because people are on the AI trend.

grin

Re: China’s Universities Cut 12,000 ‘Obsolete’ Degrees Amid Race To Embrace AI Era by TheStoriesOfMan: 8:26am On Jun 15

ariesbull:
Why study Zoology when we have Vet medicine

Well Zoology is study of animals

That's what I'm saying. Zoology should be under anatomy.

Re: China’s Universities Cut 12,000 ‘Obsolete’ Degrees Amid Race To Embrace AI Era by Onegai(f): 11:06am On Jun 15

BodePolScience:
Even before the advent of AI, some courses ought to have been relegated or dropped. Why go to the university and spend 4/5 years to study courses like Sociology and Anthropology, Music, History, International Relation, English, Political Science, etcetera. Can't we just have one or two institutes(either at the national or int'l level) that focus or specialize on each of those disciplines? These institute will do the research work, publish it online and those who have interest or passion on any of the disciplines will learn from it. Also, feedback, contribution, reassessment can also be relayed to the institutes.

Because those subjects are actually important.

We need Arts, Humanities as well as STEM for balance.

You don't want STEM running the world. Tech bros are running the world currently and look at how horrible it is. They keep creating products that destroy humanity. They've calculated humans as necessary and unnecessary and Black people of all backgrounds are unnecessary because we contribute the least to humanity yetbour continent sits on vast resources.

I am a STEM professional, I'm trained to be as black-and-white as possible rather than look at the full picture.

Arts looks at the value of things and people and deems us all as worthy of life. Science weighs and measures everything precisely.

It is why AI is so dangerous: eventually it gets things wrong and works purely on Logic. Asking it personal questions for advice always leads to it making brutal inhuman decisions. I'm speaking from experience. It's why you shouldn't take blind advice from the internet: strangers don't know you and can't see the whole picture. AI works that way, it was written by people who needed it to give answers in a straightforward manner whilst sounding human.

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Re: China’s Universities Cut 12,000 ‘Obsolete’ Degrees Amid Race To Embrace AI Era by Guest14(m): 11:42am On Jun 15

Title of a course does not set its value. Study what you want and use technology to do things.

Automation is not everything

Coming from STEM graduate myself

Re: China’s Universities Cut 12,000 ‘Obsolete’ Degrees Amid Race To Embrace AI Era by Kaczynski: 12:55pm On Jun 15

Onegai:
Because those subjects are actually important.

We need Arts, Humanities as well as STEM for balance.

You don't want STEM running the world. Tech bros are running the world currently and look at how horrible it is. They keep creating products that destroy humanity. They've calculated humans as necessary and unnecessary and Black people of all backgrounds are unnecessary because we contribute the least to humanity yetbour continent sits on vast resources.

I am a STEM professional, I'm trained to be as black-and-white as possible rather than look at the full picture.

Arts looks at the value of things and people and deems us all as worthy of life. Science weighs and measures everything precisely.

It is why AI is so dangerous: eventually it gets things wrong and works purely on Logic. Asking it personal questions for advice always leads to it making brutal inhuman decisions. I'm speaking from experience. It's why you shouldn't take blind advice from the internet: strangers don't know you and can't see the whole picture. AI works that way, it was written by people who needed it to give answers in a straightforward manner whilst sounding human.

How can a stochoastic parrot be dangerous when it's a bunch of if else statements.

You have swallowed too much leftist propaganda. People like you would thino roko's basilisk is real.

Re: China’s Universities Cut 12,000 ‘Obsolete’ Degrees Amid Race To Embrace AI Era by folake4u: 7:22pm On Jun 15

Onegai:
Because those subjects are actually important.

We need Arts, Humanities as well as STEM for balance.

You don't want STEM running the world. Tech bros are running the world currently and look at how horrible it is. They keep creating products that destroy humanity. They've calculated humans as necessary and unnecessary and Black people of all backgrounds are unnecessary because we contribute the least to humanity yetbour continent sits on vast resources.

I am a STEM professional, I'm trained to be as black-and-white as possible rather than look at the full picture.

Arts looks at the value of things and people and deems us all as worthy of life. Science weighs and measures everything precisely.

It is why AI is so dangerous: eventually it gets things wrong and works purely on Logic. Asking it personal questions for advice always leads to it making brutal inhuman decisions. I'm speaking from experience. It's why you shouldn't take blind advice from the internet: strangers don't know you and can't see the whole picture. AI works that way, it was written by people who needed it to give answers in a straightforward manner whilst sounding human.

Well said, Mama. 🙌

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Re: China’s Universities Cut 12,000 ‘Obsolete’ Degrees Amid Race To Embrace AI Era by Epurogonogono(m): 7:40pm On Jun 15*

franchasng:
Country that have focus.

Tell me why Nigerian universities and polytechnics are still running the below programs if not that they have swore to destroy Nigeria:

Marketing
Mass Communication
Public Administration
Animal Husbandry
Guidance and Counseling
Sociology
Bee Rearing
Physical Education
Literature
etc
etc

The amount of ignorance oozing out of this post is just sooo nauseating 🤮🤮

Re: China’s Universities Cut 12,000 ‘Obsolete’ Degrees Amid Race To Embrace AI Era by Epurogonogono(m): 7:46pm On Jun 15

BodePolScience:
Even before the advent of AI, some courses ought to have been relegated or dropped. Why go to the university and spend 4/5 years to study courses like Sociology and Anthropology, Music, History, International Relation, English, Political Science, etcetera. Can't we just have one or two institutes(either at the national or int'l level) that focus or specialize on each of those disciplines? These institute will do the research work, publish it online and those who have interest or passion on any of the disciplines will learn from it. Also, feedback, contribution, reassessment can also be relayed to the institutes.

If no one is studying these courses in the university, who will eventually do the research in these institutes?

A lot of people don't even practice what they studied in the university, so what's the need of scraping any course??

Let whoever wants to study any course in the university, study it. He/She would eventually find his/her path in life.

Re: China’s Universities Cut 12,000 ‘Obsolete’ Degrees Amid Race To Embrace AI Era by Epurogonogono(m): 7:51pm On Jun 15

Iseoluwani:
and you are here still doing
political science Education
social studies education
Yoruba Education
Microbiology, Zoology, Botany, and Biochemistry.Humanities: Philosophy, History, Religious Studies, and Linguistics.General Social Sciences: Sociology and Public Administration.Theatre Arts, Library Science, and Physical Education.

Peak ignorance!!!

You even mentioned biochemistry, microbiology, zoology, botany, etc?!
CORE SCIENCES!!

You definitely need to be re-educated. Just because you think an area of study is useless, does not make it useless.

Seek knowledge.

Re: China’s Universities Cut 12,000 ‘Obsolete’ Degrees Amid Race To Embrace AI Era by Epurogonogono(m): 7:59pm On Jun 15

AllBlack:
when they are still teaching FORTRAN & COBOL in Nigerian universities.

Why shouldn't they be taught?
Are they not part of computer science?

You have to understand that university is not a boot camp but a research institute, where every thing that concerns a particular topic has to be taught, regardless of economic value or what you think is important.

Re: China’s Universities Cut 12,000 ‘Obsolete’ Degrees Amid Race To Embrace AI Era by BodePolScience: 10:38pm On Jun 15

Reverseng:
Hi. I like your train of thought
I believe you'll find this read inspiring

https://www.nairaland.com/8681734/tech-bros-girls-nigeria-failing

https://www.nairaland.com/8603403/moral-continued-hardwork-morality-slaves

https://www.nairaland.com/8591634/what-wanted-ask-it-shall#137991453

Thanks a lot, I'll go through them.

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Re: China’s Universities Cut 12,000 ‘Obsolete’ Degrees Amid Race To Embrace AI Era by Gerrard59(m): 2:52am On Jun 16

Onegai:
Because those subjects are actually important.

We need Arts, Humanities as well as STEM for balance.

You don't want STEM running the world. Tech bros are running the world currently and look at how horrible it is. They keep creating products that destroy humanity. They've calculated humans as necessary and unnecessary and Black people of all backgrounds are unnecessary because we contribute the least to humanity yetbour continent sits on vast resources.

I am a STEM professional, I'm trained to be as black-and-white as possible rather than look at the full picture.

Arts looks at the value of things and people and deems us all as worthy of life. Science weighs and measures everything precisely.

It is why AI is so dangerous: eventually it gets things wrong and works purely on Logic. Asking it personal questions for advice always leads to it making brutal inhuman decisions. I'm speaking from experience. It's why you shouldn't take blind advice from the internet: strangers don't know you and can't see the whole picture. AI works that way, it was written by people who needed it to give answers in a straightforward manner whilst sounding human.

This does really make sense, and while I do advocate for math education to be learned by everyone, we need the arts to balance things out. I do think my academic background of life sciences enable me to ask questions beyond the surface compared to if I were a pure math grad. Topical issues need to be looked at holistically and follow-up questions to fully assess them.

However, at Nigeria's stage of development, we need more STEM (technical and research) grads than any other category.

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Re: China’s Universities Cut 12,000 ‘Obsolete’ Degrees Amid Race To Embrace AI Era by Onegai(f): 8:32pm On Jun 16

Gerrard59:
This does really make sense, and while I do advocate for math education to be learned by everyone, we need the arts to balance things out. I do think my academic background of life sciences enable me to ask questions beyond the surface compared to if I were a pure math grad. Topical issues need to be looked at holistically and follow-up questions to fully assess them.

However, at Nigeria's stage of development, we need more STEM (technical and research) grads than any other category.

But we don't have the infrastructure to push STEM and we're not interested in doing so. Even your elites and upper middle class who can afford it, will pay for shabby STEM primary and secondary school education than actual serious work.

I work in STEM education, my colleague is pushing it at Primary and Secondary level and I know how hard it is for her to convince parents to invest.

Even Nigerian tech bros that are young are giving side chics N500,000 to come and see them than cobble money together to invest in a public 3D lab in Yaba or research into any of our indigenous plants good for healthcare.

We don't value education here tbh.

Re: China’s Universities Cut 12,000 ‘Obsolete’ Degrees Amid Race To Embrace AI Era by Kaczynski: 9:07pm On Jun 16

Onegai:
But we don't have the infrastructure to push STEM and we're not interested in doing so. Even your elites and upper middle class who can afford it, will pay for shabby STEM primary and secondary school education than actual serious work.

I work in STEM education, my colleague is pushing it at Primary and Secondary level and I know how hard it is for her to convince parents to invest.

Even Nigerian tech bros that are young are giving side chics N500,000 to come and see them than cobble money together to invest in a public 3D lab in Yaba or research into any of our indigenous plants good for healthcare.

We don't value education here tbh.

Education is not a prority in nigeria, the gubbmint prefers oil than education. Cameroon takes education way more serious than nigeria. Cameroon has poor gdp but their hdi is way more than nigeria own because education is literally free there.

Untill nigeria get education right, we forever remain a massive turd hole.

Re: China’s Universities Cut 12,000 ‘Obsolete’ Degrees Amid Race To Embrace AI Era by Gerrard59(m): 3:51am On Jun 17

Onegai:
But we don't have the infrastructure to push STEM and we're not interested in doing so. Even your elites and upper middle class who can afford it, will pay for shabby STEM primary and secondary school education than actual serious work.

I work in STEM education, my colleague is pushing it at Primary and Secondary level and I know how hard it is for her to convince parents to invest.

We don't value education here tbh.

So, it is a cultural issue, not a money problem.

It might be your trade secret, but what is that significant difference in math pedagogy between top schools (say Loyola or any good Catholic school) in Nigeria vs say the Singaporean public school system (which you have referenced)?

Re: China’s Universities Cut 12,000 ‘Obsolete’ Degrees Amid Race To Embrace AI Era by Onegai(f): 10:29am On Jun 17

Gerrard59:
So, it is a cultural issue, not a money problem.

It might be your trade secret, but what is that significant difference in math pedagogy between top schools (say Loyola or any good Catholic school) in Nigeria vs say the Singaporean public school system (which you have referenced)?

The difference is how Math Sense is built from Primary School.

We're taught the "How To Solve", not "Why are We Doing This". Our questions are also very straightforward: "1+1 =2" versus "Mary had one apple, Uche has another, how many apples in total?".

By the time the kids get to Secondary school in Nigeria, it's mostly crammed work. So no matter how good Loyola is, they're cramming compared to Singaporean schools.

My kids did entrance exams this year and more expensive Catholic schools, Corona Secondary and James Hope College were the most challenging.

Re: China’s Universities Cut 12,000 ‘Obsolete’ Degrees Amid Race To Embrace AI Era by Iseoluwani: 11:45am On Jun 17

Epurogonogono:
Peak ignorance!!!

You even mentioned biochemistry, microbiology, zoology, botany, etc?!
CORE SCIENCES!!

You definitely need to be re-educated. Just because you think an area of study is useless, does not make it useless.

Seek knowledge.

we just found one of our psychiatric patient