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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 7:21pm On Jun 18
DeepSight:
No, not even you can be this ignorant
When?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Nateevs2: 7:39pm On Jun 18
benalvino3:
Since we all love terrorists and we know they destroy.

I agree, let Israel destroy Gaza, and anyone who doesn't like it should do something about it.

You will live more freely and better in Israel than in Gaza.
Disease of the mouth and brain. Why don't you go and try, you clown, since you love Israel so much. You are in for a rude awakening.

Disgusting mass murderer. Tueh!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 7:51pm On Jun 18
benalvino3:
When?
Against Egypt, Six Day War, 1967, Israel called it a pre-emptive strike. They took out the entire Egyptian Airforce if I recall correctly.
Prior to that, 1956, the Suez attacks, they joined France and Britain to attack Egypt when Nasser nationalized the Suez Canal.

I point these out because you specifically mentioned Egypt. Generally of recent Israel has attacked Iran, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Qatar, Lebanon, West Bank and even made noises about attacking Turkey.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 7:52pm On Jun 18
DeepSight:
Oho! Don't you think you should reflect closely on the answer to your own question? Could it have anything to do with fighting for freedom, fighting against an occupation, fighting apartheid?

Or they are just insane.

What do you think?
Non state actors are the ones fighting for freedom, The army of Lebanon is not doing the fighting its Hezbollah What occupation in Lebanon is Hezbollah fighting Israel for that the army of Lebanon is not doing?, What occupation in Yemen is the Houthi fighting that the govt of Yemen is not fighting

Its like claiming Cameroun is occupying Nigeria but the Nigerian army are not the one fighting it, Its BokoHaram fighting Cameroun
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 7:55pm On Jun 18
Nateevs2:
Disease of the mouth and brain. Why don't you go and try, you clown, since you love Israel so much. You are in for a rude awakening.

Disgusting mass murderer. Tueh!
when will you relocate to Gaza or Iran to live
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 7:57pm On Jun 18
DeepSight:
Against Egypt, Six Day War, 1967, Israel called it a pre-emptive strike. They took out the entire Egyptian Airforce if I recall correctly.
Prior to that, 1956, the Suez attacks, they joined France and Britain to attack Egypt when Nasser nationalized the Suez Canal.

I point these out because you specifically mentioned Egypt. Generally of recent Israel has attacked Iran, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Qatar, Lebanon, West Bank and even made noises about attacking Turkey.
So why did Israel and Egypt stop fighting or when was the last time Egyptian Army fought the IDF?

if you dont fight Israel, Israel will not fight you
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 7:57pm On Jun 18
nateevs:
Literally everything that I said even before the 12- day war. I then told you a few days after 28 February that you are in for a rude awakening.

A rude awakening is now unfolding before your eyes because you exceedingly underestimated Iran. You lot's problem has always been the lack of awareness outside your echo chamber.

I gave you that for free.
Talking about echo chambers, not most live in one.

https://www.nairaland.com/8692262/trump-claims-israel-been-blown
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 8:01pm On Jun 18
basilico:
Democrat supporters here don't know anything about JPCOA. The only thing was that it made Obama look good. To the contrary the deal sought to free Iran from any constraint s to develop nuclear bombs and missiles after 10 years.
Today the international community would be helpless had Iran agreed by the JPCOA and kept it's end of the bargain.
What I'm seeing here is gloating about the war having failed to dislodge the regime and casting Trump as a failure. There is no agreement yet. Hear that.
Shortcomings of JPCOA

....identified several core shortcomings, loopholes, and structural omissions in the original 2015 JCPOA framework.📑
Structural Shortcomings and Loopholes

1. Sunset Clauses: The treaty’s restrictions were temporary rather than permanent. The core caps on uranium enrichment levels, centrifuge limits, and heavy-water facility bans were designed to expire completely between 10 and 15 years, leaving Iran free to legally build an industrial-scale enrichment program thereafter.

2. The Ballistic Missile Omission
The agreement did not ban or limit Iran’s development, testing, or proliferation of precision ballistic missiles and drones. The accompanying UN Security Council Resolution 2231 only used non-binding language ("called upon" rather than "shall not"wink regarding missile activity."Anywhere, Anytime" 3. Inspection Loopholes: International inspectors did not have immediate, unrestricted access to undeclared military sites. If the IAEA suspected illicit nuclear activity at a non-declared military facility, a dispute mechanism gave Iran up to 24 days to delay, negotiate, or object to the inspection


4.Regional Activity Omission: The text entirely ignored Iran's non-nuclear regional activities. It provided no mechanisms to curb or penalize state financing, weapon transfers, or training for proxy militias and regional militant groups.Permitted Advanced R&grin: While the deal limited the number of active, older IR-1 centrifuges, it permitted Iran to continue limited research and development on advanced, highly efficient centrifuges (like the IR-6 and IR-cool. This allowed Iran to master the technology needed to enrich uranium at exponentially faster rates once the sunset clauses expired.

The "All-or-Nothing" Sanctions Snapback:
The enforcement mechanism for Iranian non-compliance was disproportionate. It only allowed for a total "snapback" of all pre-2016 UN sanctions, offering no intermediate, scaled financial penalties for minor or partial technical violations by Tehran

.The Sanctions Relief Windfall: By unfreezing over $100 billion in overseas assets and lifting oil export bans upfront, the deal provided immediate, front-loaded economic relief. Critics argued this revenue was quickly diverted to defense spending and regional operations rather than domestic civilian infrastructure.

The loopholes Gemini cited above were on purpose and deliberate.
Obama clearly intended Iran to have a nuclear bomb. Anyone saying otherwise is completely wrong. I think he knew that Iranians would use the bomb on Israel.

Lordreed
Cococandy.
Bro did the JCPOA give control of the Strait of Hormuz to Iran?

Be there talking nonsense.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 8:02pm On Jun 18
raumdeuter:
Non state actors are the ones fighting for freedom, The army of Lebanon is not doing the fighting its Hezbollah What occupation in Lebanon is Hezbollah fighting Israel for that the army of Lebanon is not doing?, What occupation in Yemen is the Houthi fighting that the govt of Yemen is not fighting

Its like claiming Cameroun is occupying Nigeria but the Nigerian army are not the one fighting it, Its BokoHaram fighting Cameroun
Why have you fraudulently left out Gaza and Hamas which you earlier mentioned? Who is to fight for the Gazans?

Was ANC in South Africa not a "Non-State Actor" and was it not also named a terrorist organization by the West?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 8:05pm On Jun 18
benalvino3:
Create whatever committee you want, call your Amazulu friends but when the time comes, Israel will use their nukes. I support it at this point.

If the world wants to normalize people trying to wipe them out, then they should also deal with their nukes.
Your tin god said Iran is free to have ballistic missile so maybe its your tin god is the Amazulu you are talking about. LoLz.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 8:11pm On Jun 18
DeepSight:
Why have you fraudulently left out Gaza and Hamas which you earlier mentioned? Who is to fight for the Gazans?

Was ANC in South Africa not a "Non-State Actor" and was it not also named a terrorist organization by the West?
Yes you can add Gaza and Hamas to it too

ANC is within Suth Africa, Hezbollah is outside Israel fighting Israel, Houthi and Hamas too

why are the govt of those counties not fighting Israel? which part of Lebanon and Yemen is being occupied by Israel that terror organizations are fighting them for
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 9:50pm On Jun 18
I keep seeing these JD Vance Israel clips.
And shocked shocked
Raumdeuter would say, Yes you can.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 10:16pm On Jun 18
IjeBos:
I keep seeing these JD Vance Israel clips.
And shocked shocked
Ramdeuter would say, Yes you can.

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Glad to see you are actually echoing Vance and Trumps points now
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 10:24pm On Jun 18
DeepSight:
Why have you fraudulently left out Gaza and Hamas which you earlier mentioned? Who is to fight for the Gazans?

Was ANC in South Africa not a "Non-State Actor" and was it not also named a terrorist organization by the West?
The example of ANC will be similar if ANC claimed Nigeria is occupying South Africa and instead of South African army, Its ANC lobbing rockets at Ngeria
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 10:26pm On Jun 18
raumdeuter:
The example of ANC will be similar if ANC claimed Nigeria is occupying South Africa and instead of South African army, Its ANC lobbing rockets at Ngeria
Not every example or analogy can be perfect. The points with that analogy are that -

- Both were fighting an oppressive occupier
- both were fighting for an oppressed, caged people
- both were labelled terriorists
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 10:34pm On Jun 18
LordReed:
Your tin god said Iran is free to have ballistic missile so maybe its your tin god is the Amazulu you are talking about. LoLz.
Yeah, they can have it. At the right time, Israel will be forced to use their nukes.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 10:36pm On Jun 18
DeepSight:
Not every example or analogy can be perfect. The points with that analogy are that -

- Both were fighting an oppressive occupier
- both were fighting for an oppressed, caged people
- both were labelled terriorists
Israel is not occupying Yemen or Lebanon. If they were that would be on the National armies to fight back not for some organization

Will it make sense for ANC to be sending rockets to Nigeria instead of the National army of South Africa
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 10:37pm On Jun 18
raumdeuter:
So why did Israel and Egypt stop fighting or when was the last time Egyptian Army fought the IDF?

if you dont fight Israel, Israel will not fight you
There is a reason I did not bother to respond to him.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 10:44pm On Jun 18
Republicans should be angry and rightly so, but why are democrats angry?

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 11:26pm On Jun 18
Trump puts our heroes first

/video/1
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 11:37pm On Jun 18
IjeBos:
I keep seeing these JD Vance Israel clips.
And shocked shocked
Raumdeuter would say, Yes you can.
they’re glitching. They don’t know how to respond now 🤣
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 11:47pm On Jun 18
raumdeuter:
Glad to see you are actually echoing Vance and Trumps points now
You mean the point I've had for years now that you called me a Terrorist supporter for?
Are Vance and Trump terorrist supporters as well?
It seems mostly everyone in the world has the same perspective now except you "Israel first, everyone who disagrees with me is a terrorist and deserves to be bombed" ghouls.

How does it feel to have given up what semblance of respect you had for a country that is universally no longer resepcted.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 11:53pm On Jun 18
IjeBos:
You mean the point I've had for years now that you called me a Terrorist supporter for?
Are Vance and Trump terorrist supporters as well?
It seems mostly everyone in the world has the same perspective now except you "Israel first, everyone who disagrees with me is a terrorist and deserves to be bombed" ghouls.

How does it feel to have given up what semblance of respect you had for a country that is universally no longer resepcted.
Trump and Vance do not support terror organizations in any way, You do proudly, you are a supporter of Hamas Hezbolla Houthi anyone against US and Israel you love them
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 12:02am On Jun 19
raumdeuter:
Trump and Vance do not support terror organizations in any way, You do proudly, you are a supporter of Hamas Hezbolla Houthi anyone against US and Israel you love them
You should really figure out where your allegiance lies.
The US is not Israel. Not sure why you keep bringing up the two together.
Maybe you should move to Israel as you seem to always prioritize them.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 12:05am On Jun 19
How is that swimming pool comparison going Raumdeuter?
Wonder why you stopped talking about it.
The paint of the few day old pool is already peeling.
I swear everything Trump does is incompetent.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f):
benalvino3:
Republicans should be angry and rightly so, but why are democrats angry?

Because we don’t want more of our resources in Iranian hands. None of this needed to happen. Obama’s deal was the best deal we could’ve come up with given the experts that worked on it.

But y’all wouldn’t listen at first. Because every thing to you guys is about opposing and owning the dems regardless of who gets burned in the process.

You’re struggling to understand why the very thing we told you would happen is happening and we are paying dearly for it? Are you seriously confused?

Tell me you’re not this slw?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 12:29am On Jun 19
cococandy:
Because we don’t want more of our resources in Iranian hands. None of this needed to happen. Obama’s deal was the best deal we could’ve come up with given the experts worked on it.

But y’all wouldn’t listen at first. Because every thing to you guys is about opposing and owning the dems regardless of who gets burned in the process.

You’re struggling to understand why the very thing we told you would happen is happening and we are paying dearly for it? Are you seriously confused?

Tell me you’re not this slw?
Lmao, what resources? Trump is taking down the sanctions he put on Iran, aside from that you believe the US will give Iran 300b.

You want the war to end or not? Why can't the left be reasonable?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 12:41am On Jun 19
IjeBos:
How is that swimming pool comparison going Raumdeuter?
Wonder why you stopped talking about it.
The paint of the few day old pool is already peeling.
I swear everything Trump does is incompetent.
😂😂😅😅.. Trump go spend America money finish..

He probably called Okeke & Sons to deliver the project..

😅😅😂😂..
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 12:44am On Jun 19
bayelsaowei:
😂😂😅😅.. Trump go spend America money finish..

He probably called Okeke & Sons to deliver the project..

😅😅😂😂..
I shouldn't be laughing at this joke.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 12:52am On Jun 19
Benalvino3

Are these beautiful gorgeous daughters of Obama men?

What’s the update from your right wing cult?

😂😂😅😅

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 1:07am On Jun 19
benalvino3:
Yeah, they can have it. At the right time, Israel will be forced to use their nukes.
LoLz. Because your tin god said so right?

When we say you people are in a cult you'll be denying it. Look at you now, you can't even call out your tin god. Nonsense.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 1:10am On Jun 19
IjeBos:
You should really figure out where your allegiance lies.
The US is not Israel. Not sure why you keep bringing up the two together.
Maybe you should move to Israel as you seem to always prioritize them.
The US and Israel are allies and their interest overlap many times

You are a shill for Hamas Hezbollah and every anti American organization. But you refused to move to any of those to live your lifestyle
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