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| Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Alexas58: 5:07pm On Jun 17 |
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| Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Alexas58: 5:07pm On Jun 17 |
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| Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by iLegendd(m): 9:39pm On Jun 17 |
The WWW of Bear Market. It's a normal market structure, but most people don't pay attention to it. It happened in ALL previous cycles and if you pay attention, you'll see lots of secrets. The first w is in white box, the second in honeydew box and the last in orange box.
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| Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by iLegendd(m): 9:43pm On Jun 17 |
We're currently in honeydew and our next W is orange. Choose your favourite box and trade.
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| Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Muhammad234: 10:06pm On Jun 17 |
For anyone expanding their monitoring setup beyond minerstat, BTC Tools (https://btc-tools.com/) has some useful utilities for ASIC management. I've found it handy for specific Antminer configurations and hashrate optimization tasks that complement the main dashboard. |
| Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Muhammad234: 10:15pm On Jun 17 |
For those managing a fleet of Antminers, the Braiins Toolbox (https://braiins-toolbox.com/) is worth checking out alongside the firmware itself. It’s a lightweight desktop app that handles network scanning, batch firmware updates, and configuration pushes across multiple miners at once. Much easier than logging into each dashboard individually, especially when dealing with mixed fleets on stock and custom firmware. Also works for quick pool config changes and performance tweaks without having to rely on the web interface for every single unit. |
| Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Muhammad234: 10:22pm On Jun 17 |
+1 for VNISH on this use case. I've been running it on a few S19s for power‑limited setups and the tuning options are much deeper than stock. You can dial in frequency and voltage per board, not just global presets, which helps a lot when you're trying to hit that specific 70‑80 TH sweet spot without wasting watts. The official site has all the model‑specific firmware and documentation: https://vnish-software.com/ – worth bookmarking if you're experimenting with different S19 variants. Also check the changelogs there, they've been adding support for newer hashboards gradually. |
| Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Jammykay(m): 4:13am On Jun 18 |
The trader and almighty Yanch shaker highlights WWW of Bear Market” — three W-shaped price structures (white box for first W, honeydew/light box for second, orange for third) on what appears to be a multi-year chart (likely a major index or stock like Bitcoin or a broad market, given the scale and drawdowns of 66-87%). It’s annotated with dozens of specific entries (Shorts at 858, 679, 497, etc.), Longs, Hedges, exact percentage drops, time bars (“17 bars, 119d”, “25 bars, 175d”), and outcome labels. The post claims this is a “normal market structure” that happens in ALL previous cycles and contains “lots of secrets” if you pay attention. Problems with this approach 1. Extreme hindsight bias / curve-fitting: With enough lines, boxes, arrows, and labels, you can find any pattern on a historical chart. The “WWW” here seems selectively boxed to fit the narrative. Real markets are noisy; W shapes appear everywhere in both bull and bear moves. Why these specific three and not others? 2. Over-annotation syndrome: The chart is cluttered with precise levels (410, 341, 497, etc.), hedges, multiple timeframes, and outcome calls. This is typical of traders showcasing “perfect” past trades. In real-time, you don’t know which W will form, where the bottom of each leg is, or whether the next move is continuation or reversal. Those clean arrows and boxes aren’t available prospectively. 3. No clear, testable rules: What exactly is the strategy? “Look for WWW in bear market”? How do you define the start of a bear market? Entry/exit rules for each W? Stop losses? Position sizing? Risk per trade? Mention of “hedges,” “Long in BY,” “Short in BY,” “No DJ” etc. feels like vague insider shorthand rather than a replicable system. Good strategies have simple, mechanical (or clearly defined discretionary) rules that can be backtested or forward-tested. 4. Survivorship / selection bias: The trader is only showing one (or a few) examples where this allegedly worked. What about times when similar-looking Ws failed? Bear markets have many fakeouts, dead cat bounces, and capitulation spikes. Claiming it happened in “ALL previous cycles” is a big red flag without systematic evidence. 5. Psychological dangers: This style encourages over-trading and overconfidence. Seeing all those labeled “Short” and “Hedge” wins makes it seem easy. In reality, shorting bear market rallies (or timing longs in downtrends) is brutal — high emotional cost, borrow fees, squeezes, and whipsaws. Would I adopt this? No. Not as presented. It might contain some useful observations about how bear markets often unfold in waves with sharp rallies (the Ws could loosely relate to multi-leg declines with relief rallies), but that’s not new or secret. Technical analysis has known patterns like Elliott Wave, ABC corrections, or measured moves, but they are probabilistic at best and require strict risk management. Better alternatives for bear markets • Trend following with clear rules: Moving average crossovers, breakouts, or Donchian channels for direction. • Risk-defined strategies: Options (puts, put spreads), inverse ETFs, or shorting with tight stops. • Macro + fundamentals: Combine price action with broader signals (yield curve, leading indicators, sentiment). • Simple is better: Many successful traders in downtrends just reduce size dramatically, focus on highest-conviction setups, or go to cash/money market until conditions improve. • Backtest any pattern rigorously before trusting it with real money. Bottom line: The trader might be skilled and this specific period may have played out as drawn, but the presentation screams “storytelling” more than “edge.” Treat it as educational chart poorrnn rather than a strategy to copy. If you like technical patterns, study cleaner systems with verifiable stats (win rate, risk-reward, max drawdown) from sources that show both wins and losses. Always paper trade or small-size anything new. Trading is hard enough without adopting vague multi-W mysteries. iLegendd:
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| Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Jammykay(m): 4:20am On Jun 18 |
Tlfexo1:Ilegendd aka Valwezzy , aka Joeclef author, Aka ilegenddd , aka Oxidde, aka mercy first, aka cmoney22222, aka tflex01, aka analyscam iLegendd: |
| Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by luke55720: 7:16am On Jun 18 |
iLegendd:Good morning, please can boxnalysis also be applied in forex trading? |
| Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by iLegendd(m): 9:03am On Jun 18 |
luke55720:I have only tried it on BTC. |
| Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by iLegendd(m): 9:17am On Jun 18 |
Jammykay:I can bet by this time in December, you must've given up. |
| Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Bluearrow: 10:11am On Jun 18 |
luke55720:Boxnalysis is working on btcee because of cycles, I don't think it can work on forex. |
| Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Tflex01: 11:02am On Jun 18 |
| Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by iLegendd(m): 12:49pm On Jun 18 |
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| Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by daharry(m): 12:58pm On Jun 18 |
I Itzlinda:My timeline is few months cause I expect a correction in 2028 leading to one of the longest bear markets lasting through 2029.. The extreme left translated nature of the next cycle is why I believe we'd have the longest bear market still coming - but first an expansion on the broader crypto market (going parabolic) and making new highs I've come to the realisation that 80% of the people reading my post expect a normal bear market with the price of BTC going to 40k in October where they buy and wait for the four yr cycle to play out as it always does so no need to spam this thread with what I've said earlier. Like I said, you'd understand better in the first half of 2027.. BTC was at 60k when I said the lows are in went to 82k (over 30% ⬆️) before a sweep of the low to 59k ish, you might argue we made a new low, while I see only a sweep/backtest of the previous lows.. Like I said before, the most extreme we could get is a sweep of 55k on BTC on weekly and that would also be with a wick Swiftly closing above 60k as the previous two (6th Feb and 4th June).. And rightly, I don't really expect all my calls on the LTF to play out exactly 💯 as visualized.. But my HFT thesis still remains the same: - No close below 60k on the weekly, and the bottom is already in.. - the next market cycle would be so left translated that you'd get to understand why I say the 4yr cycle is broken ( at least from what retail expects) - ETH and Alts (even memes) would have such a run from late 2026 to early to mid 2027 that most retail would FOMO back at the top cause it's a 4yr cycle they believe. - BTC won't make a new ATH in 2028 or 2029.. - the crash of 2029 in crypto and traditional stocks would be compared to the one of 1929 |
| Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by SmallDick99(m): 6:14pm On Jun 18 |
harry2sexy:Stack up ke. Look for a pull back and short that shit. While wait for that level doing nothing? When you can short and raise more capital ![]() |
| Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by iLegendd(m): 7:46pm On Jun 18 |
Maybe, I should just reveal this. I call it "The Fasted Money You Can Ever Make." There was a time I posted this image below. From that dotted white line to another dotted white line is 4 years. Also, do you remember SITM? The horizontal line of every box. Whatever has a horizontal has a vertical and we have never spoken about the vertical line before, so today, we will and I'll show you how to use it to make money. Typing...
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| Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by iLegendd(m): 7:46pm On Jun 18 |
But I'm revealing too much o! Anyway, make I just do am. Now, let's check magic of the WWW and you'll see for yourself and it's been 100% accurate in every 3 previous cycles, including this 4th one. Typing... Photo credit: JammyKay.
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| Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by iLegendd(m): 8:02pm On Jun 18 |
The two images below are white box and honeydew box. Each box has a vertical red line at the middle, but for white box, well use the vertical dotted white line I talked about above. On that white box, you'll see a W and you'll see a yellow arrow pointing at the candle close to the dotted white line. Any short you take on the first or second weekly candle after the dotted white line is equivalent to money ritual. You sell the short in Feb, any of the weeks it'll dump the most. For honeydew box, we'll use the middle red line. After that red line, short the following 1 or 2 weeks and sell your short in June's low or October or best, No-DJ. It has been 100% accurate in all cycles. That's one of the reasons I did 100x leverage around 80-82k price range. The blue arrow shows where you'll sell.
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| Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by iLegendd(m): 9:40pm On Jun 18 |
The market is just waiting for any negative news it'll blame for the awaiting crash. Las las, Trump will fall for it and end up taking the blame as usual. It might even be China or Isreal. |
| Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by iLegendd(m): 12:23am On Jun 19 |
Best 1 minute video I have watched today. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4IQopBxzOo?si=nPhtAzSAfEYkReEf |
| Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Itzlinda(f): 9:07am On Jun 19*. Modified: 12:35pm On Jun 19 |
daharry:2028 is a halving year and there was never a cycle where we have brutal bear market in a halving year. If It ain't broke don't fix it. This your same thesis is what has recked so many people because they think this time is different and it turned out it isn't. Stop all the mental gymnastics to predict what has no any historical rhyming. Bitcoin tops in October 2025. Bear market usually last 1 year. We have between now and October to go lower below 59k or start a new bull market. Don't over complicate |
| Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by iLegendd(m): 10:17am On Jun 19 |
Why do I like this high-low blue candle? It's not good for normal hungry-man 5 or 15 minutes timeframe trading, but the second best for Boxnalysis trading. The candle doesn't care about anything but the top and bottom price. It removes all the emotional rollercoaster. Currently, our weekly candle is 67k top and 62k bottom. With this info, I'll only take the market seriously when we leave the 6-range to another even number like 8 or 4, as in, 80k to 89k or 49k down to 40k. The first number must be an even number.
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| Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Verbtips(m): 11:39am On Jun 19 |
iLegendd:seem btc gonna hit 25k |
| Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Bluearrow: 11:48am On Jun 19 |
Itzlinda:The earlier u stop wasting your time on that confusionist, the better for u. That was the same guy that posted on this thread in January btcee was going to see a new ATH in March. He is always commenting nonsensee. |
| Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by megawealth01: 11:55am On Jun 19 |
Bitisi ![]() Itzlinda: |
| Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by iLegendd(m): 6:38pm On Jun 19*. Modified: 5:26pm On Jun 21 |
Verbtips:I just kept my lowest low at 32-29k based Boxnalysis and upper low at 51-48k and still based on Boxnalysis. For 25k, I'll only agree to that if we hit 32k and consolidate there, knowing fully well there are billionaires to liquidate at 25k, then yeah, I'll agree. |
| Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by iLegendd(m): 6:40pm On Jun 19 |
What you don't wait for happens faster than that you're monitoring. |
| Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by luke55720: 6:47pm On Jun 19 |
iLegendd:Okay, Thank you Sir |
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