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| Atiku Is Politically Unintelligent by Hedonisco(op): 3:50pm On Jun 19 |
Atiku seems to be the most unintelligent senior politician we have in Nigeria. What he lacks in political intelligence, he overcompensates for with excessive ego and stubborn self-confidence (delusion). Instead of playing smart politics by stooping to conquer as it were, doing everything necessary to win over Peter Obi and his supporters - even if it means making public and explicit power-sharing commitments (e.g. Obi will be in charge of the economy and so on, I will serve only one term, and I will ensure that his vice presidency becomes a clear stepping stone to the presidency after four years), he chose to carry on with very silly, dismissive arrogance. Of course that arrogance and lack of strategic negotiation/communication alienated Obi and his supporters, and here we are again with a three horse race. Atiku/Obi would have been an iron clad, rigging-proof, unassailable fait accompli. The bottom line would be that Atiku would achieve his life long dream of becoming president. Is this not the ultimate goal? Or in which planet is arrogance a political strategy, for a non incumbent for that matter? Now Atiku is running with the virtually useless Rotimi Amaechi. I don't understand the logic. How exactly does he plan to win the election? He is not the incumbent, so he cannot plausibly rig the elections or have more resources to do vote buying. Neither does he have any governors to help him conjure some magic as was the case in 2023. And of course he has no organic supporters anywhere in Nigeria, not even in the so-called North (he is no Buhari), so what really is this man up to? He cannot get 25% in ANY Southern state. He cannot get 25% in any middle belt state (e.g Plateau, Benue, Taraba and Nasarawa). He cannot get 25% in Abuja. So what is the election logic for him, other than just an ego driven exercise in futility? |
| Re: Atiku Is Politically Unintelligent by saintopus(m): 3:55pm On Jun 19 |
You are very correct, Tinubu is even worse, no verified document that are linked to Tinubu, Atiku is a bit better. In fact all of them are jokers |
| Re: Atiku Is Politically Unintelligent by brain54(m): 4:36pm On Jun 19 |
I agree with you 💯 that atiku is politically unintelligent... Worse is that he is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result. I agree with you he is unintelligent politically else he would have been the current president or have been a past president by now. I agree with you he is politically unintelligent not for the same reasons though as you seem to be insinuating that like obi he should say whatever it takes to get him to power. To make promises he doesn't intend to fulfill (which is one of the reasons I personally love atiku because he is the only one not making wild promises for the sake of talking and winning elections. He seems to be campaigning based on what he can and genuinely intends to do and not on frivolous promises. That's obi's specialty )Where atiku's political daftness clearly showed was his refusal to compromise and work with wike in the last election which later cost him his ambition. I like atiku best amongst the major candidates. He is not the Messiah to save Nigeria. But the best and most mature candidate to lead Nigeria from amongst the current aspirants. But yes he isn't politically unintelligent and may likely never be president as his current effort seems to be his most slack and inspiration so far. Tinubu on the other hand is politically very smart but lacks the capability and capacity to be a good leader to lead this country from present challenges. He is there just to play crude politics. Obi is just an empty air head who likes to blow big grammar and copy statistics from random countries he is the copy and paste legend aka supreme King 👑 of lamba and Lord of the lies.Kwawanso I really do not know much about his personality and performance as governor of Kano! |
| Re: Atiku Is Politically Unintelligent by kokoA(m): 4:41pm On Jun 19 |
The only time Atiku arguably had a real chance was in 2019. By then, many Nigerians were already frustrated with Buhari’s first tenure. How Atiku still lost that election remains one of those questions only history may fully answer. |
| Re: Atiku Is Politically Unintelligent by AMINDA: 4:49pm On Jun 19 |
Nothing can pacify a man who kept saying "I must be on the ballot" from the get-go. In hindsight, for Atiku to stand a chance, Obi needs to be on the ballot. This is because Tinubu would have gotten sympathy votes from the South, if otherwise. With Obi on the ballot, he will as usual, mop Tinubu on the floor in the South. Meanwhile, the 5.6m Northern votes that came through for Tinubu in 2023 are all but gone. Once APC realises what they are up against, Obi might just get disqualified internally by the NDC. Dickson needs to be kept an eye on. The silence of the APC since Obi decamped to the NDC is very suspect. |
| Re: Atiku Is Politically Unintelligent by Burob: 5:04pm On Jun 19*. Modified: 5:24pm On Jun 19 |
Hedonisco:Gringory Obi seems to be the most unintelligent senior politician we have in Nigeria. What he lacks in political intelligence, he overcompensates for with excessive ego and stubborn self-confidence (delusion). Instead of playing smart politics by stooping to conquer as it were, doing everything necessary to win over President Tinubu & his Oga Abubakar Atiku and his Obidient supporters - even if it means making public and explicit power-sharing commitments (e.g. Obi will be in charge of the economy and so on, I will serve only one term, and I will ensure that his vice presidency becomes a clear stepping stone to the presidency after four years), he chose to carry on with very silly, dismissive arrogance. Of course that arrogance and lack of strategic negotiation/communication alienated President Tinubu and his agbadorian supporters, and here we are again with a three horse race. Atiku/Obi would have been an iron clad, rigging-proof, unassailable fait accompli. The bottom line would be that Obi would achieve his life long dream of becoming president. Is this not the ultimate goal? Or in which planet is arrogance a political strategy, for a non incumbent for that matter? Now Obi is running with the virtually useless Andrews Liverpool Salt Kwakwanso. I don't understand the logic. How exactly does he plan to win the election? He is not the incumbent, so he cannot plausibly rig the elections or have more resources to do vote buying. Neither does he have any governors to help him conjure some magic as was the case in 2023. And of course he has no organic supporters anywhere in Nigeria, just Obidients, not even in the so-called lamba (he is no Obasanjo), so what really is this man up to? He cannot get 25% in the core political Northern state. Bloc, He cannot get 25% in any Northern belt state (e.g Sokoto , Benue, Kano and Kaduna). He cannot get 25% in Osun state. So what is the election logic for him, other than just an ego driven exercise in futility? |
| Re: Atiku Is Politically Unintelligent by givedemwotowoto: 5:15pm On Jun 19 |
This part, I am fully in agreement with. Atiku lost Peter Obi in 2023, then lost Wike. You saw the result in Lagos and Abuja, he really needs PO. In 2027 again, same mistake. Like, didn’t you learn something from 2023? If he had made public statements like “PO will lead our production economy and security”, it will be acceptable to most PO supporters because that feels like substantial powers that will enable PO act For only 1 state, Tinubu tolerates Wike’s excesses, just to have his support, talk less, PO with over 6 million supporters Instead of playing smart politics by stooping to conquer as it were, doing everything necessary to win over Peter Obi and his supporters - even if it means making public and explicit power-sharing commitments (e.g. Obi will be in charge of the economy and so on, I will serve only one term, and I will ensure that his vice presidency becomes a clear stepping stone to the presidency after four years), he chose to carry on with very silly, dismissive arrogance. |
| Re: Atiku Is Politically Unintelligent by Kanwulia: 5:20pm On Jun 19 |
Fact. Besides he lacks political swag. Very DULL!🙄 |
| Re: Atiku Is Politically Unintelligent by brain54(m): 5:26pm On Jun 19 |
Kanwulia:Political swag how...? If you ask me he is the one who carries himself in the most presidential manner. Is it p.o that looks presidential with his black on black Police uniforms like someone mourning. Or bla blablue with his slurred drunky master speech and shaky walk? Bla blah blue that I have never understood anything he says. Atiku has the most presidential swag and mannerisms. He carries himself very well and acts very maturely! |
| Re: Atiku Is Politically Unintelligent by brain54(m): 5:28pm On Jun 19 |
givedemwotowoto:The problem with this logic is that after 2023 obi vehemently refused to be anyone's vice... I chose to stand and contest only as president. He left and atiku could never have forced him to be vice! |
| Re: Atiku Is Politically Unintelligent by LibertyRep: 5:29pm On Jun 19 |
...and you think Atiku didn't do all these. You think he didn't make overtures to these people. Nothing the man does will ever make sense to those who wouldn't vote him anyways. |
| Re: Atiku Is Politically Unintelligent by givedemwotowoto: 5:33pm On Jun 19 |
brain54:Obi refused to be Vice before 2023 elections, he ran for office on his own. Obi went into a coalition with Atiku knowing there was a possibility that he won’t emerge as Presidential candidate. Even Amaechi didn’t accept to be anyone’s vice, he went for primaries. That’s what PO wanted. It was after PO left that ADC took the primaries seriously after previous statements of wanting a consensus candidate. The videos are all available, PO wanted primaries. |
| Re: Atiku Is Politically Unintelligent by givedemwotowoto: 5:34pm On Jun 19 |
LibertyRep:“Those people” supported and voted for him in 2019 |
| Re: Atiku Is Politically Unintelligent by brain54(m): 5:40pm On Jun 19 |
givedemwotowoto:You are talking of same obi that ran away because he wasn't guaranteed presidential ticket... I had to read what you wrote multiple times to make sure I understood that we are talking about the same person! |
| Re: Atiku Is Politically Unintelligent by Hedonisco(op): 5:40pm On Jun 19 |
AMINDA:It's people like you who mislead Atiku, likely because you have something pecuniary to gain from prodding him on. His contesting for elections is a big 'industry' for some people, so I understand. Peter Obi's choice of language "I must be on the ballot" was quite nuanced, for those who know how to read between the lines. All Atiku needed to do was play the smart game, make strong commitments, and deploy very persuasive political communication with compromises, and that ticket would have been a reality. Kwankwaso is very much "on the ballot" in the same manner that Peter Obi is. That says everything that needs to be said, for those who are discerning. Atiku blew his chances one too many times. He will live to regret it. |
| Re: Atiku Is Politically Unintelligent by givedemwotowoto: 5:45pm On Jun 19 |
brain54:This was PO himself talking about ADC direct primaries. Show me evidence of him wanting to be consensus candidate
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| Re: Atiku Is Politically Unintelligent by Hedonisco(op): 5:46pm On Jun 19 |
LibertyRep:Lol. You think it is "overtures" that would sway Obi and Obidients? Is it 'overtures' that Obi used to sway Kwakwanso and the Kwankwasiya? You don't know what strong, public commitments mean? Or you haven't seen or heard how Obi publicly committed to carrying Kwankwaso along, and effectively making him president in waiting after a Peter Obi 4 year term? You Atiku people just like too much deluded arrogance, and that has always been his undoing. |
| Re: Atiku Is Politically Unintelligent by brain54(m): 5:55pm On Jun 19 |
givedemwotowoto:Whether by consensus or primaries obi couldn't have defeated atiku as far as ADC was concerned... Obi saw the dilemma he was in and ran away. ADC was a trap for obi to become vice which he later realized and a position he didn't want! |
| Re: Atiku Is Politically Unintelligent by givedemwotowoto: 6:02pm On Jun 19 |
brain54:Nobody is dragging the mud with you, keep it going |
| Re: Atiku Is Politically Unintelligent by brain54(m): 6:04pm On Jun 19 |
givedemwotowoto:When you can't dispute a fact or give a superior argument resort to insults and run away... Classic! |
| Re: Atiku Is Politically Unintelligent by Kanwulia: 6:21pm On Jun 19 |
brain54:How can you run for presidency MULTIPLE TIMES and fail to clinch one attempt? 🤷🏾♀️Even Mr. Peter Obi has limited his FAILED attempts to TWO! That is what I call POLITICAL SWAG! Know yourself nor be curse!🍷 You gotto know when to hold, fold, walk away or run.👍🏽 Atiku does not know when to hold, fold, walk away or run. That is aimless desperation at work especially at such an old age. He really should be hiding.🫣 |
| Re: Atiku Is Politically Unintelligent by givedemwotowoto: 6:25pm On Jun 19 |
brain54:So what you wrote in response to the evidence I presented was a statement of fact? Is this your leader? Let’s know where the problem is coming from
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| Re: Atiku Is Politically Unintelligent by ResidentSnitch(f): 6:35pm On Jun 19 |
brain54:I read one comment you made a few days back, and I thought you were spot on. I even had to check out your monicker. Now, I'm not so sure again. There are several inconsistencies and loopholes in the logic of your comment above. For instance, you just dismissed Obi with a mere wave of your hand while still vouching for Atiku without any proven reason. That's not a mark of intelligence if you ask me honestly. |
| Re: Atiku Is Politically Unintelligent by brain54(m): 6:36pm On Jun 19 |
givedemwotowoto:That obi could not have won atiku both in ADC primary or as consensus candidate and that he ran away is fact... You could have disputed it or walk away instead of resorting to insults when I was having a grown man conversation with you because I thought you were mature and sensible. That you can't convey your opinion and express yourself meaningfully is the reason you are resorting to insults as you have done a second time. You are insinuating I'm a supporter of tinubu because you have a biased mindset you need to fix when I have even made it clear on this thread what my opinion is about the major candidates. You need to work on yourself o. Carry your problems and go away! |
| Re: Atiku Is Politically Unintelligent by brain54(m): 6:45pm On Jun 19 |
ResidentSnitch:The comment I gave above was not about giving expansive reasons... It was a brief summary and highlight of my opinion on some of the contestants. Which obviously wasn't the subject of this thread. If you had looked closely, intelligently and with an unbiased mind you would have seen i gave reasons in what I said even though I didn't expand them. If I want and feel like it I can give expansive reasons on what I said. I'm not here to prove my intelligence or otherwise to you. I make comments here based on what I want or how I choose! |
| Re: Atiku Is Politically Unintelligent by givedemwotowoto: 6:56pm On Jun 19 |
brain54:I'll even be more disappointed if you were an Atiku supporter talking this way. You want to be treated as an adult right? As an adult, you should know the difference between an opinion and a fact. When you make a claim without presenting evidence to back it up, it's an opinion, not a fact. I presented video evidence showing that Peter Obi wanted primaries. The least you could do is present evidence to the contrary if you disagree. It's disrespectful and childish to dismiss evidence with a careless opinion. If you disrespect me, you're getting wotowoto in return. I match energy with energy as you can see. Ethics of debate require evidence be challenged with counter evidence, not with careless opinions. If you believe the evidence is wrong, then show evidence that proves otherwise. |
| Re: Atiku Is Politically Unintelligent by brain54(m): 7:08pm On Jun 19 |
givedemwotowoto:Did I dispute with you about the evidence you provided of obi saying what he said...? My argument was that obi knows atiku would have won him in a primary election or as consensus candidate for obvious reasons as long as ADC is concerned. Which was the reason he left ADC. Who is arguing with you about what obi said when everyone knows politicians say what they like to suit their purpose even at different times or circumstances. You are talking about disrespect and matching energy with energy meanwhile you are the one who brought disrespect and insults to the conversation I thought I was having with you in a calm and respectful way. You don't even know me. So just carry your energy and wotowoto whatever and go away. Na me do mistake to mention you in the first place that's why I will let it pass! |
| Re: Atiku Is Politically Unintelligent by KennethOkonkwo: 7:23pm On Jun 19 |
saintopus:Your Ignorance is not non existence of knowledge |
| Re: Atiku Is Politically Unintelligent by BigYash: 7:27pm On Jun 19 |
saintopus:They don't know anything about leadership. They just rotate them like agbero in motor parks |
| Re: Atiku Is Politically Unintelligent by mrvitalis(m): 7:34pm On Jun 19 |
Hedonisco:Like I was shocked wining Obi over was all he needed to do Few promises but instead he sent his foot soldiers to try to intimidate Obi and his supporters Threatening not to even give him vice after the primary 2019,2023 was atiku to lose and he lost it 2027 is his to lose again , he is clearly losing it The unprovoked attack on obi n obidient by atiku guys even till now was stupid ,they play their hands too early |
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