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| Political Philosophy by anonimi(op): 10:00am On Sep 22, 2024*. Modified: 5:37pm On Nov 02, 2024 |
A thread for nonpartisan political commentary. Feel free to add yours. fuckJones: |
| Re: Political Philosophy by bestlary(m): 10:45am On Sep 22, 2024 |
Clear and balanced examination. |
| Re: Political Philosophy by Softmirror: 10:53am On Sep 22, 2024 |
Hungry and angry man philosophy. ![]() |
| Re: Political Philosophy by vanitybutiwanti: 11:41am On Sep 22, 2024 |
Mr Thread creator You fail to understand that in Nigeria regardless of the party that wins people are the beneficiaries, me personally have resolved to stop voting in Nigeria unless I am a direct beneficiary of the candidates. Only fools vote in Nigeria without getting anything in return, you want me to vote for Obi, Tinubu or Asue who will get richer after being sworn in? If you like deceive yourselves, all politicians in Nigeria are thieves, they are no saint amongst them, you blame Tinubu for buying new cars yet all governors regardless of party affiliation also bought fleet of cars. Don't put yourself on the line if you wont be a multi millionaire or billionaire if a party candidate wins. Politics is now bring infiltrated by corporate scammers with posh English offering to do heaven on earth, a clear testament to this fact is obaseki, who wanted to foist another crisp English speaking scammer. |
| Re: Political Philosophy by anonimi(op): 1:04pm On Sep 22, 2024 |
Softmirror:The type that is used in oyinbo and Asian countries to make us go there as voluntary slaves? Voluntarily unlike our brethren who we captured and sold into slavery for peanuts ![]() sage: |
| Re: Political Philosophy by anonimi(op): 1:05pm On Sep 22, 2024*. Modified: 6:59am On Apr 27, 2025 |
vanitybutiwanti:Only fools are selfish AND myopic individuals who hypocritically want to live in a society that functions. |
| Re: Political Philosophy by anonimi(op): 4:37am On Sep 25, 2024*. Modified: 6:01pm On Dec 21, 2025 |
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| Re: Political Philosophy by anonimi(op): 4:48am On Sep 25, 2024*. Modified: 7:24am On Sep 09, 2025 |
The often cited biography titled Madame Tinubu: Merchant and King-maker, authored by Nigerian historian Oladipo Yemitan, paints her views regarding slave trading. On one occasion, during her final sojourn in Abeokuta, she was alleged to have sold a young boy into slavery and was accused of it. When arraigned before Ogundipe Alatise over the matter, she reportedly explained: 'I have a large house-hold and I must feed them well. I need money to do that, that's why'. — Oladipo. Yemitan, 'Madame Tinubu: Merchant and King-maker' Another section of Yemitan's Tinubu biography, referred to as the Amadie-Ojo Affair, captures a slave trading deal gone sour in 1853 (notably after the 1852 Treaty abolishing slavery in Lagos) wherein Tinubu tells another slave trader (Domingo Martinez) that "she would rather drown the slaves [20 in number] than sell them at a discount". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efunroye_Tinubu |
| Re: Political Philosophy by anonimi(op): 11:55am On Oct 16, 2024 |
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| Re: Political Philosophy by anonimi(op): 10:02am On Nov 08, 2024*. Modified: 10:45am On Jan 24, 2025 |
Neo-black Problem: Must Blacks Be Ruled by Whites in Order to Prosper? In short, the neo-black dilemma may be framed as follows: is it better to live under white rule without political dignity but with basic life-sustaining standards for many; or to live under black rule with illusory political dignity and without basic life- sustaining standards for the majority? @ @ The path forward for Africa lies in cultivating higher and adequate levels of personal and communal agential integrity as well as full personal responsibility and productivity. Not to mention creativity (including epistemic creativity), productive justice (such as merit and freedom), harmony and reconciliation at local and international levels, and a proper domestication of capitalism and other related values and institutions. Africa must stop wasting her time on dreams of socialism because it is a system of wealth distribution primarily. Whereas, capitalism is a system of wealth creation primarily, and wealth has to be produced before it can be distributed. https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2024/10/12/neo-black-problem-must-blacks-be-ruled-by-whites-in-order-to-prosper/ |
| Re: Political Philosophy by anonimi(op): 1:17pm On Dec 09, 2024*. Modified: 12:33pm On Jan 15 |
The migrant crisis in Libya and the Nigeria experience JUNE 24, 2019 The drive for survival and for greener pastures has continued to force millions of West African young men and women to gamble with death in attempts to cross over to Europe and other parts of the world. This quest to escape poverty, hunger, unemployment and insecurity, among other reasons, caused a major segment of Nigeria’s population to seek alternatives for better livelihood prospects for themselves and their families. Those seeking economic survival see irregular migration as the best alternative, given the difficulty and resources involved in migrating through regular and legitimate routes. In many instances, very few of the original number who set out on these dangerous journeys live to tell their stories. While many regularly drown in the Mediterranean Sea, many also die in the deserts, and others are sold as slaves in a modern slave market. Most of the victims of this trade are from West Africa. Many of them leave home with expectations of getting to Europe and other destinations perceived to have better economic prospects for them, but they end up in the slave merchant nets in North Africa. The victims are put in camps and sold in open markets in Libya, while the international community watches in silence. The geographical location of Libya renders it a transit route for migrants journeying to Italy and many other parts of Europe. https://www.accord.org.za/conflict-trends/the-migrant-crisis-in-libya-and-the-nigeria-experience/ |
| Re: Political Philosophy by anonimi(op): 2:24pm On Jan 29, 2025 |
“The worst illiterate is the political illiterate, he doesn’t hear, doesn’t speak, nor participates in the political events. He doesn’t know the cost of life, the price of the bean, of the fish, of the flour, of the rent, of the shoes and of the medicine, all depends on political decisions. The political illiterate is so stupid that he is proud and swells his chest saying that he hates politics. The slowpoke doesn’t know that, from his political ignorance is born the prostitute, the abandoned child, and the worst thieves of all, the bad politician, corrupted and flunky of the national and multinational companies.” ― Bertolt Brecht |
| Re: Political Philosophy by givedemwotowoto: 2:40pm On Jan 29, 2025*. Modified: 3:04pm On Jan 29, 2025 |
First of all, the quoted post was written by a Tinubu supporter who also doubles as a tribal bigot. First Red Flag. But ok he’s making sense so I kept reading, then boom, he inserted Peter Obi’s name in the midst of known criminals. That tells all you need to know. This thread was stylishly disguised to de-market Peter Obi. |
| Re: Political Philosophy by anonimi(op): 9:41am On Jan 30, 2025 |
givedemwotowoto:What is the meaning of what you said, in the light of this thread below ![]() https://www.nairaland.com/7277602/peter-obi-reference-thread |
| Re: Political Philosophy by anonimi(op): 6:54am On Apr 27, 2025 |
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| Re: Political Philosophy by anonimi(op): 7:30pm On May 04, 2025 |
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| Re: Political Philosophy by anonimi(op): 9:13am On Jul 01, 2025 |
Slavery in Japan Japanese slave women were even sold as concubines to Asian lascar and African crew members, along with their European counterparts serving on Portuguese ships trading in Japan, mentioned by Luis Cerqueira, a Portuguese Jesuit, in a 1598 document. Japanese slaves were brought by the Portuguese to Macau, where some of them not only ended up being enslaved to Portuguese, but as slaves to other slaves, with the Portuguese owning Malay and African slaves, who in turn owned Japanese slaves of their own. Hideyoshi was so disgusted that his own Japanese people were being sold en masse into slavery on Kyushu, that he wrote a letter to Jesuit Vice-Provincial Gaspar Coelho on 24 July 1587 to demand the Portuguese, Siamese (Thai), and Cambodians stop purchasing and enslaving Japanese and return Japanese slaves who ended up as far as India. Hideyoshi blamed the Portuguese and Jesuits for this slave trade and banned Christian proselytizing as a result. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Japan |
| Re: Political Philosophy by wirinet(m): 6:46am On Jul 27, 2025 |
anonimi:I vehemently disagree with the redded quote and the whole article in general. One of the core problems with capitalism is its overwhelming focus on wealth—particularly material wealth. It reduces the meaning and purpose of life to the relentless pursuit of material possessions. This fixation breeds greed, exploitation, moral decay, and ultimately undermines the very fabric of society. Contrary to popular misconceptions, socialism is not about distributing wealth without first creating it. It's important to remember that original wealth—land, minerals, water, forests—comes from natural resources. A properly structured socialist system is about the equitable distribution of these resources, which are often collectively inherited. However, capitalism, driven by greed, has historically led a small group of people to invade, exploit, and even enslave others in order to claim these resources for themselves. Interestingly, many of the most peaceful, stable, and morally grounded nations today are those with strong socialist principles. Africa, for instance, did not begin with a capitalist model. Traditional African societies were deeply communal. Land and natural resources were shared equitably among tribes, clans, and families. There was a strong emphasis on mutual responsibility and cooperation. As a result, conflicts were relatively rare. But as capitalist ideals took root—especially through colonization and foreign influence—competition replaced cooperation. Today, we see not just inter-tribal conflicts, but family feuds over land and inherited property, reflecting the divisive nature of resource ownership under capitalism. Even Christianity began on socialist—arguably even communist—foundations. Jesus, his disciples, and the early Christian community lived communally. Personal ownership was discouraged, and everything was held in common for the benefit of all. It was only later, under Roman influence and institutional religion, that capitalist doctrines began to creep in and shape the modern interpretation of Christianity. |
| Re: Political Philosophy by anonimi(op): 9:27am On Jul 27, 2025 |
wirinet:Life is about balancing out different things. Capitalism by itself is not a cure all system. There is a need to balance it out with some elements of socialism, such as free basic education and healthcare, along with progressive pricing of basic utilities like electricity and water. However, the more socialist we are, the worse we are collectively, especially when we drift towards communism. |
| Re: Political Philosophy by anonimi(op): 9:34am On Jul 27, 2025 |
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| Re: Political Philosophy by wirinet(m): 11:17am On Jul 27, 2025 |
anonimi:That's the message I have been trying to pass. Most capitalism proponents especially those from US makes out socialism as a form of evil, and capitalism as the answer to all socio economic problems. There has to be a balance between the two systems. China realised this and moved from strict capitalism- communism to a very liberal form of capitalism that allows for private ownership of resources. In thirty years you can see the tremendous development. Nigeria has elected to adopt the strictest form of capitalism, even stricter than the US. In the US, there are free public schools, even almost free public universities. All Nigeria's resources are being left to private hands, most public social amenities have been abandoned. Water, electricity,basic health care and schools, have been left in private hands. Even public roads are being privatised. Nigerians enjoy zero public social services from the government. |
| Re: Political Philosophy by wirinet(m): 11:57am On Jul 27, 2025*. Modified: 12:27pm On Jul 27, 2025 |
anonimi:Very interesting story. I took time to read it and wrote a rebuttal.Atlantian post=44098058: This story, though catchy, is a gross misrepresentation of what socialism truly is. 1. The Flawed Assumption: Confusing Socialism with Communism What the professor described is not socialism but a rigid, extreme form of communism —a system that erases individual effort by enforcing uniform outcomes. History, particularly the collapse of the Soviet Union, has shown us the pitfalls of such a system: namely, the absence of an equitable reward mechanism. When people are rewarded equally regardless of their input, motivation declines. That is indeed a flaw—but it’s a flaw of communism, not of socialism. Socialism , in contrast, is a social and economic framework that ensures the equitable distribution of shared resources—like land, healthcare, and education—while still maintaining fair rewards based on individual contributions. It’s not about giving everyone the same outcome but about giving everyone a fair start and equal access to basic needs and opportunities. 2. Misapplication of Incentives The professor’s experiment failed to account for human psychology. There were no meaningful stakes tied to the students' performance. Whether they passed or failed had no real consequence—no reward for excellence, no penalty for underperformance. If the prize for an A was a million dollars or a guaranteed job at Google, students would absolutely strive to succeed—even under equalized conditions. Conversely, if the reward was linked to failing (say, a prestigious anti-academic award), everyone might deliberately aim to fail. Human beings—like all living organisms—are motivated by consequences. The absence of meaningful incentives in the experiment made the entire exercise irrelevant to real-world socialism. 3. Survival vs. Grades Unlike real life, school tests don’t determine survival. Many students take courses under parental pressure or just for social reasons. Failing a test might not even matter to them. In contrast, failing to provide food, shelter, or healthcare in society has devastating consequences, not just for individuals but for the entire social structure. Throughout history, collapsed civilizations were often brought down not by their wealthy elite but by the mass of impoverished, desperate people with nothing left to lose. The starving Gauls overran wealthy Roman outposts. Barbaric Viking raids destabilized Northern Europe. In today’s world, insurgent groups like Boko Haram and violent herders have created chaos in Nigeria—because extreme poverty and lack of opportunity create conditions for extremism, not peace. 4. The Real Weakness of Capitalism While capitalism may reward innovation and hard work, its greatest weakness lies in how easily it allows millions to fall through the cracks. When too many people are poor, helpless, and excluded, the overall prosperity of a nation becomes meaningless. No matter how wealthy the top 1% is, a nation cannot function or remain peaceful when large swaths of its population lack access to basic needs. That is where socialism offers a necessary correction—not to destroy wealth or remove personal incentive, but to ensure no one is too poor to live in dignity. --- Addressing the “5 Best Sentences: Let’s briefly address the so-called 5 best sentences offered by the professor: 1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. False dichotomy. Progressive taxation and social programs don’t legislate the wealthy out of prosperity—they simply ensure everyone contributes fairly. 2. What one person receives without working for, another must work for without receiving. This ignores systemic inequality and inherited privilege. Many wealthy individuals today inherited wealth they never worked for. 3. The government cannot give to anybody anything it does not first take from somebody else. That’s literally how all taxation works—including in capitalist societies. Roads, military, and public services are paid for this way. 4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. Actually, wealth circulation through spending and redistribution stimulates the economy more than hoarding it at the top. 5. When half the people believe they don’t have to work, and the other half stops working because they’re exploited, it’s the end of a nation. Agreed—but this is exactly why unregulated capitalism fails too. Both ends—laziness and exploitation—are unsustainable. --- Conclusion The professor’s experiment was not only flawed in design but also in logic. It misrepresented socialism as a rewardless, demotivating system—which it is not. Socialism seeks balance : reward for effort and protection for the vulnerable. In a world of rising inequality and economic insecurity, understanding that difference is not just important—it’s urgent. |
| Re: Political Philosophy by anonimi(op): 6:38am On Jul 30, 2025 |
This is a religious issue but it is connected with politics since they have a symbiotic relationship even in traditional societies where monarchy is intertwined with religion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49DAa8Xys_g?si=bnnymSZ8z5zb24Bm Deuteronomy 14 |
| Re: Political Philosophy by anonimi(op): 7:52pm On Aug 03, 2025 |
A rat swallowed a diamond and the owner of the diamond contracted a man to kill the rat. When the rat hunter arrived to kill the rat there were more than a thousand rats bunched up and one sitting by itself away from the pack. He killed the one by itself and that was the exact one that had swallowed the diamond. The amazed owner of the diamond asked: How did you know it was that rat? He responded: "Very easy When idiots get rich they don't mix with others!!!" |
| Re: Political Philosophy by anonimi(op): 3:51am On Aug 07, 2025 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmF5lyvhrtA?si=foUCeGgOb1mRn5fC The Traditional Social Contract Theory The social contract theory is the most prominent account of authority in the last 400 years of philosophy and has as good a claim as any to being America’s theory of authority. The theory holds that, at least in some countries, there is a contractual relationship between the government and its citizens. The contract requires the government to provide certain services for the population, notably protection from private criminals and hostile foreign governments. In return, citizens agree to pay their taxes and obey the laws.1 Some views of the social contract assign the government a larger role, perhaps including providing for the basic needs of indigent citizens, ensuring an equitable distribution of material resources, and so on.2 Whatever a particular theorist takes to be the state’s legitimate functions, the theorist will argue that the social contract both authorizes and obligates the state to perform those functions. https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1057/9781137281661_2 |
| Re: Political Philosophy by anonimi(op): 6:47am On Aug 18, 2025 |
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| Re: Political Philosophy by Nobody: 11:36am On Oct 17, 2025 |
Palliatives You must disempower them, brutalise them, beat them up, starve them and then leave them". "If you do this, go into your pocket & give them peanuts when they are in that helpless and desperate situation, they will blindly follow you for the rest of their life, worshiping you". "They will think you are a hero forever. They will forget that, you're responsible for their sorrowful situation in the first place." Breath taking, isn't it ?... anonimi: |
| Re: Political Philosophy by MIKOLOWISKA: 8:54pm On Jun 19 |
Nigerians don't have the balls to kill anyone They vote for scammers anonimi: |
| Re: Political Philosophy by MIKOLOWISKA: 8:59pm On Jun 19 |
anonimi:only folks are not selfish oga Think am well |
| Re: Political Philosophy by anonimi(op): 2:12am On Jun 20 |
MIKOLOWISKA:If oyinbos and Asians are foolishly selfish then why would they attract us to japa to their countries where civil servants are well paid to make basic services and utilities available for everyone? Things like water and electricity supply, free education for all children, free basic healthcare for all residents, law and order that applies to everyone for securing their countries etc. Have you heard anything about Enlightened Self Interest, ESI? Read about the concept and how much of it is reflected in Nigeria and other countries in Africa versus the countries of oyinbos and Asians.
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| Re: Political Philosophy by anonimi(op): 3:15am On Jun 20 |
MIKOLOWISKA:Is there any worse scammer than Tinubu in Nigeria? Who is this person who is a worse scammer than Tinubu ![]() Someone who used his master plan to raise Lagos budget 100 times to N4.2 trillion in 27 years but failed to pay enough workers a good wage for water supply to all households. How can anyone be a worse scammer then Tinubu? How can you increase tax burden on people forever ♾️♾️ to brag about IGR and budget growth but you fail to make water available and you fail to provide free education for all children ![]() https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5v-F81hNTs Lanrelagboi:https://x.com/toluogunlesi/status/1877326708904181856?t=R_xycXnffVtjtiWwoGCzAQ&s=19 |
| Re: Political Philosophy by MIKOLOWISKA: 1:54am On Jun 21 |
anonimi:When you were voting for free education and healthcare and security and electricity and subsidized payroll petrol it was sweeting you You know they say you can only scam a scammer No wonder you all vote for scammers [quote] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5v-F81hNTs https://x.com/toluogunlesi/status/1877326708904181856?t=R_xycXnffVtjtiWwoGCzAQ&s=19[/quote] |
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