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daniwise:
This thread is filled with so many ignorant people.So are you trying to tell me that holy spirits dont exist?I am a direct beneficiary of the holy spirit.That is all I have to say.

God bless you.

Really I'm disappointed at most of the negative comments here.

A lot of people mock the things of God without realizing that the supernatural is more real than the natural.

daniwise:
This thread is filled with so many ignorant people.So are you trying to tell me that holy spirits dont exist?I am a direct beneficiary of the holy spirit.That is all I have to say.

The holy spirit doesn't push people down for fun. He doesn't even push Christians down.

immortalcrown:
What about ushers and assistant pastors? Are they not interested? Are they not in the mood of prayer?

Same thing.... Just like the cameramen, those ushers and assistant pastors are also on duty to control and catch those who might fall, so they arent exactly immersed or participating in the prayers.

Especially that choir and usher.
Hmmm
Departments whise memebers exist mainly for the downfall of the church

Gotocourt:
Devil lives in that squad🤣

Apart from the paid or volunteer actors and the naturally emotional ones falling over during service, it should be noted that melancholy, trance and intense vibrations during worship is a well known phenomenon in some African traditional religion.

Early writers on slavery noted that worship in American churches got heavily influenced by slaves who were originally African traditional worshippers.

WeirdAlien:
But it's not recorded that people "fell under the anointing" while Peter, Paul, or any of the apostles ministered. In fact this phenomenon is purely a Pentecostal and Charismatic thing that started around the 1730s.
We all carry God's presence, and no pastor/minister has superior or greater anointing than another Christian - 1 John 2:20 and 27.

So where did these pastors get their own from??

That's not true. We all have varying measurements of God's presence and anointing.

WeirdAlien:
But it's not recorded that people "fell under the anointing" while Peter, Paul, or any of the apostles ministered. In fact this phenomenon is purely a Pentecostal and Charismatic thing that started around the 1730s.
We all carry God's presence, and no pastor/minister has superior or greater anointing than another Christian - 1 John 2:20 and 27.

So where did these pastors get their own from??

U mean uve never read where the people that came to arrest Jesus fell under the anointing abi

immortalcrown:
But camera men, singers, instrumentalists, ushers and interpreters do not partake in the anointing.

Dont mind them.

kullozone:
Fraud is to Chriistianity, as violence is to Islam

I don't know if I should agree to this not.😄😃

AngelicBeing:
Which kind Jamb question be this na, I am an Angel and l lay hands on people and some fall , in some cases, l don't even touch them, just by Speaking the Powerful word of God Almighty, they scream and fall under the Anointing ooooooooo mucheche 😂

So it's your bragging right muchew. So you don't run all over the place and fall.

I believe its a mind thing.

izzou:
After falling and standing up, what next?

May God have mercy on Nigerian Christians

..they are delivered and healed

Antoeni:
It's All Fake, The Camera Men And Ushers Don't Ever Fall Under Anointing , It's All Staged And Scripted

Guy relax
God knows what he's doing. He knows the cameraman is busy in his house, so why fall him down?

obailala:
Same thing.... Just like the cameramen, those ushers and assistant pastors are also on duty to control and catch those who might fall, so they arent exactly immersed or participating in the prayers.

So, no usher or camera man needs deliverance?

To see Christians rush out here to criticize what is going on in the church is disappointing. You don’t see any Muslim criticize the unpleasant happenings in their faith.

Till tomorrow , the thing of the spirit will still look foolish to canal men , but do we have fake spirit ? Yes . So I think the canal men won't accept that this is real..

philipobiz:
So it's your bragging right muchew. So you don't run all over the place and fall.

You have started again ooooooooo with your Jamb, Wasce, Neco questions ooooooooo, l will lay hands on you via online now and you will see wonders oooo mucheche 😂

My cousin fell under anointing once when I went to visit her for the day at Uni.

Till today, she denies point blank that she did, something that I saw with my own eyes and was too scared to ask her then.

She claims she doesn't even remember me coming to visit her or any such event, what a joke of a woman. I know she does because she gets testy when denying it after I bring it up.

Still love her sha (bikonu not like that ó, na agape love please) but I go drag her well well till she gree say na fake

immortalcrown:
But camera men, singers, instrumentalists, ushers and interpreters do not partake in the anointing.

So, no camera man needs deliverance? Are all camera men holy and clean or is God not interested in touching those who work in the church?

Those ones are all under special anointing God is not a confusionist or a disorderly God.

Mrexcell:
Those ones are all under special anointing God is not a confusionist or a disorderly God.

Explain your comment.

immortalcrown:
So, no usher or camera man needs deliverance?

That is not the issue being discussed. The question was "why do the ushers and cameramen not fall?"... The answer is that they weren't participating or immersed in the prayers.

If the workers have issues, they can drop the camera and join the prayers, or they can go see the pastor later.

And by the way, a person falling doesnt automatically mean the person is being delivered of anything. The falling is usually just an emotional response to a divine presence and atmosphere. People who are emotionally sensitive or vulnerable are more prone to falling (explains why women are 10x more likely to fall than men). The fall doesnt mean deliverance or healing or anything.

AllBlack:
Cloud filled house of God?
I challenge you to show me just one Nigerian church where this has ever happened.

Not in Nigerian church.

Na scammers full there

there's one woman I knew in the family church I grew up in when I was a kid.this woman gossip pass mrs aje.after church she go go people's house dey gossip who dey friend who,who borrow person cloth come church, who dey fvck who but for church she dey fall every Sunday and this woman sabi fight. I used to find her annoying and to toxic and messy so I used to avoid her.mama bolu hennn.tuehh.

obailala:
That is not the issue being discussed. The question was "why do the ushers and cameramen not fall?"... The answer is that they weren't participating or immersed in the prayers.

If the workers have issues, they can drop the camera and join the prayers, or they can go see the pastor later.

And by the way, a person falling doesnt automatically mean the person is being delivered of anything. The falling is usually just an emotional response to a divine presence and atmosphere. People who are emotionally sensitive or vulnerable are more prone to falling (explains why women are 10x more likely to fall than men). The fall doesnt mean deliverance or healing or anything.

1.
Falling as an emotional response means that the person is conscious and intentional. So, it is not the spirit of God in action.

2.
Why don't the pastors themselves fall? They are not just participating in the prayer, they are leading the prayer.

3.
Why don't people who pray at the back seats fall like the ones near the alter?

4.
Why don't people fall when praying at home or on mountains since prayer is the cause?

immortalcrown:
But camera men, singers, instrumentalists, ushers and interpreters do not partake in the anointing.

So, no camera man needs deliverance? Are all camera men holy and clean or is God not interested in touching those who work in the church?

The Anointing functions just like electricity 🔌.

Electricity is directional, so is the Anointing.

The reason why most of those who you mentioned don't fall under anointing is because the Anointing isn't directed to them. I hope you understand?

However in the case of a much heavier Anointing, most of them do fall.

immortalcrown:
1.
Falling as an emotional response means that the person is conscious and intentional. So, it is not the spirit of God in action.

2.
Why don't the pastors themselves fall? They are not just participating in the prayer, they are leading the prayer.

3.
Why don't people who pray at the back seats fall like the ones near the alter?

4.
Why don't people fall when praying at home or on mountains since prayer is the cause?

Okay sorry, the falling is all acting. Have a nice day!

Beautifulday:
The holy spirit doesn't push people down for fun. He doesn't even push Christians down.

What pushes people down sir

judewrites:
God bless you.

Really I'm disappointed at most of the negative comments here.

A lot of people mock the things of God without realizing that the supernatural is more real than the natural.

God bless you sir

immortalcrown:
But camera men, singers, instrumentalists, ushers and interpreters do not partake in the anointing.

So, no camera man needs deliverance? Are all camera men holy and clean or is God not interested in touching those who work in the church?

Hear ur urself, camera that open is eyes working cannot fall under anointing bcoz he didn't release himself likewise USHERS

WeirdAlien:
But it's not recorded that people "fell under the anointing" while Peter, Paul, or any of the apostles ministered. In fact this phenomenon is purely a Pentecostal and Charismatic thing that started around the 1730s.
We all carry God's presence, and no pastor/minister has superior or greater anointing than another Christian - 1 John 2:20 and 27.

So where did these pastors get their own from??

what you know nothing about don't say it. What happened in the upper house in d Bible?

judewrites:
📖 1 Kings 8
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¹⁰ And it came to pass, when the priests were come out of the holy place, that the cloud filled the house of the LORD,

¹¹ So that the priests could not stand to minister because of the cloud: for the glory of the LORD had filled the house of the LORD.

I am sure you have witnessed this scenario before:

A spiritual leader prays for and lays hands on certain of his/her members and "whoosh!" they fall to the floor like a pack of cards.

The Charismatics call this experience "slaying in the Spirit" or the most commonly known term "falling under the Anointing".

While many skeptics doubt and mock the authenticity of this divine experience, it is 100% biblical.

I have been personally "slain in the Spirit" on different occasions when prayed for by genuine ministers of God and it felt like mild electricity ⚡ flowing through or warm water 💦 drenching my body.

During King Solomon's dedication of the magnificent temple, God was so pleased that He filled the temple to the brim with His presence.

In response to His overflowing presence, the officiating priests couldn't stand on their feet anymore but were compelled to the floor.

Interestingly, we see something similar when John the beloved encountered the glorified Jesus:

📖 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last.
— Revelation 1:17

The Lord's presence was so overwhelming, John subconsciously prostrated at His feet like a dead man.

👉When people are "slain in the Spirit" their spirits are simply responding to God's overflowing presence in awe and reverence.

God so loves us that He often touches us at our point of needs with His presence.

However, unlike in the Old testament, our bodies are now the temples of God's presence...we are carriers and conductors of God's glory. (1 Corinthians 3:16-17)

God does pour out His presence through His ministers but It's important to note that while people may "fall under the Anointing" during their prayers, this is not meant to glorify any minister of the gospel.

It is a dangerous thing for any pastor, prophet, evangelist, apostle, etc. to share the glory that exclusively belongs to God.

📖 ...and I will not give my glory unto another.
— Isaiah 48:11

You need to learn from the responses you are getting here and try to start thinking with your brain, even while you believe in your heart. From the passage you quoted at the beginning of your sermon, it was the PRIEST who couldn't stand the power of the presence of the Lord and had to fall to the ground. But in your picture, and also every other case of 'falling under anointing' in our churches, it is only some members that fall; the priest never falls for once. Or have you ever seen a priest fall in 'the presence of the Lord' in our generation? Does it mean today's priests are more powerful than the force of the presence of the Lord that they can't fall? This is why you need to think more with your head than you believe in your heart.
You even experienced it when a 'genuine man of God' prayed for you, but how come all the genuine men of God that I know in this world don't have anyone falling in their church, rather, only charlatans like some Nigerian fake prophets we all know are the ones making people fall in their church?
USE YOUR HEAD OR ELSE, SOMEONE 'FAKE' WILL USE IT FOR YOU!

It's normally the urshers that are first to fall

Antoeni:
It's All Fake, The Camera Men And Ushers Don't Ever Fall Under Anointing , It's All Staged And Scripted

Not all workers are paid in the church of God

Kingluqman:
Because they are paid to do so