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Jeff Bezos Says Human Water Consumption Is Inhibiting AI Development by DomPerignon(op): 8:11pm On Jun 22
Yes, we should use less water so that Bezzos AI data centres can function.

Note that current data centres are a fraction of the proposed size that is needed to power AI.

Apart from consuming huge amounts of water in cooling, AI data centres are projected to require at least double that if current US installed grid capacity which is currently at 50,000GW.

That means AI will require at least 100,000GW.

The human brain requires only about 33 watts and is sentient and is an incredibly efficient machine.

A housefly brain requires far less and is also sentient and can process information around it's environment far more faster than all current super computers combined.

AI data centres also take up a lot of land space and are now commandeering foreclosed farms that ran into bankruptcy due to high land tax and legal issues partnering to GMO license.

So not only does the likes of Bezos wants you to stop using water, they want to also reduce your energy consumption and access to food by converting farm lands to AI data centres.

Why won't Jeff Bezzos and co want you dead?

Re: Jeff Bezos Says Human Water Consumption Is Inhibiting AI Development by agulion: 8:20pm On Jun 22
So now between Tinubu and AI which one is better considering the circumstances will find ourselves as a country
Re: Jeff Bezos Says Human Water Consumption Is Inhibiting AI Development by budaatum: 8:27pm On Jun 22
We should all limit ourselves to a teaspoon of water a day so Bezos can build his more important AI.
Re: Jeff Bezos Says Human Water Consumption Is Inhibiting AI Development by SEGLIZ:
when AI is competing with those it is meant serve.

PulaPower:
Ai was never meant to serve you. The likes of ChatGPT are not Ai. The real Ai is yet to be unleash. Ai was created to control the world, not to serve..
many don't believe this will come to pass, while some are anticipating it coming reality.

the world is tilting towards that time.

GuestInfinity:
Only someone who doesn't know the fundamentals of AI would say such a thing. Simply not true
you didn't get my drift.

Holy2Glory:
This is one of the brightest minds I have met on nairaland. I can see you are visionary, and you see. What's your name again?

Well, wether they know or not, or wether they believe it or not, 2030 is not too far. Things will begin to point to others. Even the dumbest will soon learn. As for the dot called Nigeria she will be cut inbetween the old and the new. She will have no choice than to do followership only because heroes and the mighty men will have either fallen or silenced. When we say mighty men here we are not referring to those your routine old and new foolish politicians who failed woefully in their duty calls who are just somewhere answering useless names as former this former that, present this or present that which they don't merit.
our leaders will rather busy themselves with embezzlement than embrace innovation and the realistic future.

the only time they will embrace innovation and the future is only when the Ghana MUSTGO™ bags comes to the party, which will in turn set the nation backward rather than the future.

we've heard VISION 2000, VISION 2020, Millennium Development Goals (mdgs) and many more, still they will sure be caught in the web of this earth innovation no matter how much they avoid it.

toprealman:
If in June 29, 2026, you still think AI will compete with humans, you need to take a social media break and do some upscaling.
This is an era of augmentation. See AI as your assistant and make sure you keep getting better in what you do.
AI is going to get better, just so you know.
you need the break than I do, you didn't understand the depth of my comment before quoting me.

since AI need more gallons of water to serve us meaning we should consume less than we need according to Jeff makes it a competitor.

streetsoldier1:
make dem carry the ai come my village come help us farm
I'm with you on this all the way. I even and I'm currently running a research on some agricultural ventures. so it is helping.
Re: Jeff Bezos Says Human Water Consumption Is Inhibiting AI Development by MyExpression(m): 9:47pm On Jun 22
All these unfounded fears about AI

What amount of water and land is needed, compared to the land and water that's all over the world?!
Re: Jeff Bezos Says Human Water Consumption Is Inhibiting AI Development by dominique(mod):
He doesn't even need to say it out loud, those data centres are doing all the talking. I watched a video clip a while ago about how these data centres have forced people living within their vicinity away from their homes. The few that stayed behind said the data centres sometimes deprive them of power and water for up to 20 hours in a day. When the centers turn on their machines, the deafening sound can cause migraine. Then there's the heat being dissipated by those stations, people are literally roasting in their homes.

This is what he actually said:
"If we starve our data infrastructure of cooling resources just to sustain baseline human comfort, we are actively delaying the birth of a super-intelligence that could solve all of our resource problems in the first place,".


What are the "baseline human comforts" we need to stop sustaining Jeff? Bathing? Cooking and doing dishes? Washing our hands? Kindly explain which of these baseline human comforts we need to do away with so your AI stations can work to their fullest capacity. Are these billionaires human beings at all?

These are AI data centres btw. Imagine the amount of power required to power all this equipment and water to cool it down. People living around there are being put through a lot of health risks

Re: Jeff Bezos Says Human Water Consumption Is Inhibiting AI Development by PulaPower: 10:08pm On Jun 22
SEGLIZ:
when AI is competing with those it is meant serve.
Ai was never meant to serve you. The likes of ChatGPT are not Ai. The real Ai is yet to be unleash. Ai was created to control the world, not to serve..
Re: Jeff Bezos Says Human Water Consumption Is Inhibiting AI Development by DomPerignon(op): 10:36pm On Jun 22
dominique:
He doesn't even need to say it out loud, those data centres are doing all the talking. I watched a video clip a while ago about how these data centres have forced people living within their vicinity away from their homes. The few that stayed behind said the data centres sometimes deprive them of power and water for up to 20 hours in a day. When the centers turn on their machines, the deafening sound can cause migraine. Then there's the heat being dissipated by those stations, people are literally roasting in their homes.

This is what he actually said:
"If we starve our data infrastructure of cooling resources just to sustain baseline human comfort, we are actively delaying the birth of a super-intelligence that could solve all of our resource problems in the first place,".


What are the "baseline human comforts" we need to stop sustaining Jeff? Bathing? Cooking and doing dishes? Washing our hands? Kindly explain which of these baseline human comforts we need to do away with so your AI stations can work to their fullest capacity. Are these billionaires human beings at all?

These are AI data centres btw. Imagine the amount of power required to power all this equipment and water to cool it down. People living around there are being put through a lot of health risks
Real scientists and I mean physicists and Bio-pyhsicists have all said that current AI is totally inefficient and does not consider one very critical aspect of intelligence mimicry which boils down to entropy.

A human brain utilizes at max 33 Watts of power . A housefly with it's highly sentient and reaction time uses far less energy .

The computing power of a common housefly is far higher than the most advanced AI but utilizes an infinitesimal lower amount of energy .

Entropy, in this case, simply means work-sleep cycle.

Your brain needs a state of rest to reset itself which we know as sleep.

AI is not being built by scientists but rather Computer engineers who have come to prioritise processing power and more energy at the cost of efficiency.

The need for more data centres defeats the argument that AI is truly sentient.

Rather, they are building a large memory and using a good librarian tool that can compose and summarize whatever you want.

Yes , AI is good at solving real problems presented to it but it is not and will never be able to solve anything outside what it has in its archive.

As long as AI can not conceive on its own a problem , it can't in anyway invent anything .

Inventions and innovations are driven by those who ask the right question , that is, create a problem that no one knew existed.

The great philosophers pondered not over existing problems but rather proposed a new perspective to our existence .

The question that begins with "what if" is the begining of a new problem and without those who create problems that the world never knew existed , we will remain in ignorant bliss.

That's why in mathematics, they are not interested in problem solvers but rather those who create problems. As long as a problem is established, mathematicians know it will eventually be solved. But where no problem exists, there is no need for a solution.

This is where AI can never compete with humanity or any other higher mammal.
Re: Jeff Bezos Says Human Water Consumption Is Inhibiting AI Development by CodeTemplar: 6:49am On Jun 24
PulaPower:
Ai was never meant to serve you. The likes of ChatGPT are not Ai. The real Ai is yet to be unleash. Ai was created to control the world, not to serve..
i can see they used conspiracy theories to swear for some people.
Re: Jeff Bezos Says Human Water Consumption Is Inhibiting AI Development by EponObi(f): 9:50am On Jun 29
As expected. They are gradually ushering a dystopian world. The global elites are telling you their plans for the world and there's nothing to stop them. As usual, only a very few people will pay attention.

The next few decades will be intriguing to see. If you think Cyberpunk is just a video game, think again. Get rich sha. Very rich. The poors will be f'ed in ways people can't imagine right now.

Re: Jeff Bezos Says Human Water Consumption Is Inhibiting AI Development by freakyavia: 9:51am On Jun 29
All these inhumane white billionaire AI runs on procesors put that in an air tight tube connect sub marine wires and dump them into the ocean, cooling solved not all these stupid statements human are meant to live long through reproduction not be killed by some man made virus made by demons like you
Re: Jeff Bezos Says Human Water Consumption Is Inhibiting AI Development by CorrectionFLuid:
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Human lives are now worth less than ai efficiency.

Fact check... These are the same people you listen to on matters of LGBTQIA+-/²

These are the same "leaders of thought" who you clap for whenever they open their mouths to speak about "tolerance", "diversity", "sustainability" and many other cliches.

These are same people some think their opinions are best and final.

Continue.

If you like don't have your own defined values and ideology.

If you like sell or gift your loyalty to people, instead of to your own defined ideology and values.

When those people fail, as humans always do, you'll look stupid, and be forced to recant, or continue in the circus.
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Re: Jeff Bezos Says Human Water Consumption Is Inhibiting AI Development by kaywhy09(m): 9:52am On Jun 29
So human should sacrifice their functionality for ai to function
Re: Jeff Bezos Says Human Water Consumption Is Inhibiting AI Development by moscow007: 9:53am On Jun 29
I've said it times without numbers, no human being should worth beyond a billion dollars.

Anything more than that turns you to a monster.

For you to be worth more than a billion dollars you must've killed a lot of people and devoid of conscience and human sympathy.

Human beings will be nothing but numbers to you.
Re: Jeff Bezos Says Human Water Consumption Is Inhibiting AI Development by 12345baba(m): 9:54am On Jun 29
He go die first . Seun uncle
Re: Jeff Bezos Says Human Water Consumption Is Inhibiting AI Development by Image123(m): 9:54am On Jun 29
Then let's finish up the water already, shall we? It's survival of the fittest, right? Water was enough for the whole planet before AI. AI can go and use flood water in Lagos, abeg.
Re: Jeff Bezos Says Human Water Consumption Is Inhibiting AI Development by ppogba: 9:55am On Jun 29
Thank God OXYGEN is not within their control.

We all can imagine what the situation will be now.

No be only water. Na H2O
Re: Jeff Bezos Says Human Water Consumption Is Inhibiting AI Development by FSBoperator: 9:56am On Jun 29
CodeTemplar:
i can see they used conspiracy theories to swear for some people.
Jeff Bezzos telling you to cut down on your water use is conspiracy theory abi?

Jeff Bezzos like the average billionaire out there does not give a rats ass about you .

They have amassed so much wealth, that money is no longer an issue

What they want now is a world for themselves and their families only and if it takes culling humanity, so be it.
Re: Jeff Bezos Says Human Water Consumption Is Inhibiting AI Development by oz4real83(m): 9:56am On Jun 29
They don't need fresh water to cool whatever they want to power. Except they have ulterior motives against the human race, they can't even consume up to 1% of the amount of water in the oceans.
Re: Jeff Bezos Says Human Water Consumption Is Inhibiting AI Development by FSBoperator: 9:57am On Jun 29
moscow007:
I've said it times without numbers, no human being should worth beyond a billion dollars.

Anything more than that turns you to a monster.

For you to be worth more than a billion dollars you must've killed a lot of people and devoid of conscience and human sympathy.

Human beings will be nothing but numbers to you.
Very correct

There's an amount of wealth that brings out the demigod in people.

Bezzos and co are so greedy to have this planet for themselves that they will cull the population if they could .
Re: Jeff Bezos Says Human Water Consumption Is Inhibiting AI Development by DeepSight(m): 9:57am On Jun 29
DomPerignon:
Real scientists and I mean physicists and Bio-pyhsicists have all said that current AI is totally inefficient and does not consider one very critical aspect of intelligence mimicry which boils down to entropy.

A human brain utilizes at max 33 Watts of power . A housefly with it's highly sentient and reaction time uses far less energy .

The computing power of a common housefly is far higher than the most advanced AI but utilizes an infinitesimal lower amount of energy .

Entropy, in this case, simply means work-sleep cycle.

Your brain needs a state of rest to reset itself which we know as sleep.

AI is not being built by scientists but rather Computer engineers who have come to prioritise processing power and more energy at the cost of efficiency.

The need for more data centres defeats the argument that AI is truly sentient.

Rather, they are building a large memory and using a good librarian tool that can compose and summarize whatever you want.

Yes , AI is good at solving real problems presented to it but it is not and will never be able to solve anything outside what it has in its archive.

As long as AI can not conceive on its own a problem , it can't in anyway invent anything .

Inventions and innovations are driven by those who ask the right question , that is, create a problem that no one knew existed.

The great philosophers pondered not over existing problems but rather proposed a new perspective to our existence .

The question that begins with "what if" is the begining of a new problem and without those who create problems that the world never knew existed , we will remain in ignorant bliss.

That's why in mathematics, they are not interested in problem solvers but rather those who create problems. As long as a problem is established, mathematicians know it will eventually be solved. But where no problem exists, there is no need for a solution.

This is where AI can never compete with humanity or any other higher mammal.
Who has said that AI is sentient?

cc LordReed
Re: Jeff Bezos Says Human Water Consumption Is Inhibiting AI Development by DeepSight(m): 9:59am On Jun 29
ppogba:
Thank God OXYGEN is not within their control.

We all can imagine what the situation will be now.
That day will come, when they will tax people for breathing, that is for sure.
Re: Jeff Bezos Says Human Water Consumption Is Inhibiting AI Development by casualobserver: 9:59am On Jun 29
The message is they see those of you with huge populations as a burden. So take their western medicines, vaccines, modified seeds, armed bases etc and continue believing they are there to help you.
Re: Jeff Bezos Says Human Water Consumption Is Inhibiting AI Development by FSBoperator: 10:00am On Jun 29
kaywhy09:
So human should sacrifice their functionality for ai to function
A few years back, Nestle CEO said in an interview that access to water should not be a right .

That water should be treated as a commodity and not an essential human rights.

The US and Israel refused to vote on a UN resolution that access to food be declared a human right.
Re: Jeff Bezos Says Human Water Consumption Is Inhibiting AI Development by Basicend:
Amazon, Google, Microsoft, Meta Inc etc needs quiclky to think of better environmental friendly ways running AI powered platforms or cloud services.

We created our own problems. Those massive computers in their data centers must feed on excessive water. . They also generate lots of noise and radiations to nearby neibours.
Re: Jeff Bezos Says Human Water Consumption Is Inhibiting AI Development by NOETHNICITY(m): 10:04am On Jun 29
Just came in to read his absurd claims!

I just read through, am I the only one who sees zero correlation between consumption of water and AI development and efficiency?
Re: Jeff Bezos Says Human Water Consumption Is Inhibiting AI Development by netmillionaires(m): 10:04am On Jun 29
And these people dare lecture Africans about global warming. No wonder Tinubu said what concern a church rat with global warming.


dominique:
He doesn't even need to say it out loud, those data centres are doing all the talking. I watched a video clip a while ago about how these data centres have forced people living within their vicinity away from their homes. The few that stayed behind said the data centres sometimes deprive them of power and water for up to 20 hours in a day. When the centers turn on their machines, the deafening sound can cause migraine. Then there's the heat being dissipated by those stations, people are literally roasting in their homes.

This is what he actually said:
"If we starve our data infrastructure of cooling resources just to sustain baseline human comfort, we are actively delaying the birth of a super-intelligence that could solve all of our resource problems in the first place,".


What are the "baseline human comforts" we need to stop sustaining Jeff? Bathing? Cooking and doing dishes? Washing our hands? Kindly explain which of these baseline human comforts we need to do away with so your AI stations can work to their fullest capacity. Are these billionaires human beings at all?

These are AI data centres btw. Imagine the amount of power required to power all this equipment and water to cool it down. People living around there are being put through a lot of health risks
Re: Jeff Bezos Says Human Water Consumption Is Inhibiting AI Development by hopexter(m): 10:05am On Jun 29
agulion:
So now between Tinubu and AI which one is better considering the circumstances will find ourselves as a country
try

Tinubu is the president of the most populous black nation in the world. Tinubu is too big for bezos or Ai. I know your are cursed to be enemy of your country, for clarity sake, compare the same Ai to your weak father who has no drive to be relevant to the society, compare the same Ai to both your parents.
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