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The setting that's making him leave Christianity is what he'll find in any typical community in the world. I'm sure he also met some really nice people there as well but he's not talking about those.
Deep down I feel he's really leaving because the miracle he hoped for did not come in his schedule.

Ushame:
my friends are mostly Muslims

Ask that your friends what is the punishment for apostasy in Islam?

I will wait

Christianity in Nigeria is a big fraud, infact in the whole of Africa, when the bible stated that holy people e.g pastors will be the one to enter hell, that's the fact.

One of the fake online pastors here is Righteousness2.

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Dreal1247:
Please, can you please state what was written on the form which you filled before you were able to access your accomodation..

MFM Prayer City is an open place where anybody, Christian or Muslim even traditionalist can access.


AFTER READING YOUR WRITEIP, I FOUND IT INCOHERENT.
HOW CAN SOMEBODY WITH A LIFE THREATENING HEALTH ISSUE BE LOOKING FOR PEOPLE WHO LOST THEIR PHONES? YOU DIDN'T EVEN MENTION THE RESULT OF YOUR DELIVERANCE. YOU WENT ON TO SAY THAT YOU WANTED TO MAKE FRIENDS.
FOR YOUR GOODNESS, DON'T BE POSTING LIES AGAINST MFM. YOU MAY NOT LIVE TO SHARE YOUR STORY. TO BE FOREWARNED IS TO BE FOREARMED.

What is the difference between your threats now and the evil Muslim?
Now you will back it up with Bible verse abi?

One of the mfm pastor dey fight me now on top my papa property.

Judgement day go dey interesting for naija segment.

Ushame:
I was born into a Christian family. Although my dad was a staunched traditionalist(a Retired General that believed in the customs of his ancestors)but during the later period of his life, he converted fully to Christianity.

The rest of my family happened to be Christians.

My decision to leave the Christian Religion is borne out of my experience in Mountain Of Fire, prayer city in Ogun State.

I was scheduled for a Liver transplant surgery and a friend recommended i go to Mountain Of Fire, Prayer City at Ibafo Ogun State to fast and pray until the day of the surgery.

I spent weeks in an hotel outside before i learnt they have cheap accommodation inside the place. I went to inspect and was pleased with the arrangements. It reminded me of my few years in the army barrack.

Bunk bed rooms with other Christians of supposedly similar faith. So i went for it and decided to proceed from the camp. I learnt a lot, even more than my last five years put together.

From my observation , sincere and uncoated observation, i learnt that the place is full of people that need mental care rather than prayers. So many people behaving abnormally.

My first week there, more than 10 phones got stolen in that hostel. Someone would just steal phone in the middle of the night and that is the end. At one time, a porter(the supervisor) was even accused of it, which of cause is true because he only said he took the phone to secure it for the owner that was reckless.

Secondly, i tried to mingle with some of the people there. My association with these people made me to realise that there are more charlatans in suite than robbers with guns.

How can a sane person see extortion of funds from miracle seekers in the camp as a means of livelihood. These men would approach people, mostly women and mind hooked them into believing they are there to help them spiritually at a price. And strangely, they are really making money. A full documentary of hell can be done in that camp.

I don't even want to talk about the Charlatans. what about the staffs ?. The hostel(Emmanuel hall) porter supervisor, an Edo man that is always boasting to be there for more than 10 years would make you weep if u see how he talked to lodgers.

He acts like a mental patient. In fact, am just being kind by calling him that. He talks to elderly men with no respect and shout at them as if he is their father. He does as he wants and runs the place with personal vendetta against lodgers just because the lodge fee is cheap(1k).


Someone there told me that after he came back from midnight prayer at the auditorium, he went back to his lodge only to be faced with the so called supervisor that wanted to fight him because he cautioned him against insulting him. He went to a room full of pastors and with lots of empty beds, and explained to them around 4 to 5am but they insisted he sleeps under the rain, rather than use any of the empty beds.

I will take my time to write more about my experience there. But just know this, it is not a place to be at all. Full of mental patients in suites and those that are in denial of their true problems.



That place discouraged my faith and even after i left, i still wake up in the night to ponder on how i tried to mess my mind up living with these people.

If you're looking for God, please take this from me, "God is not in prayer city MFM".


I found fellowship with the Muslims community in Abuja. And I have communicated my desire to some of them. They welcomed me and we broke bread together(ate together) as it should be.

I learnt a lot from Islam. So so much

Have you also tried to lodge among Bandits, Boko Haram, etc? Thank God, you rightly called those MFM guys charlatans. But, in Islam, Boko haram and other terrorist groups are not charlatans. They're the real Muslims.

I am not asking you to return, even though, I must tell you, you're about to make the gravest mistake of your life. The Bible preaches love, endurance, patience and kindness for all men irrespective of their faith. Those who disobey this command will be judged by God.

"Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers." Galatians 6:10.

On the other hand, Islam teaches hatred and extermination for those that are not Muslims. Those who hate and oppress non Muslims will be rewarded by Allah.

I cannot quote the quranhc verses here directly because Nairaland bots will ban me due to the violent languages used in those verses. I have attached screenshots from Surah 47:4-8. Find time to also read Surah 5, 8, 9, 33 and 60.

Judge the faiths by their written standards, and not by the conduct of their so called adherents. If I were you, I'll ask "Are they doing what God commanded?" Those MFM guys were clearly in error, and you are using them as a yardstick to measure the God they claimed to serve. You're in grave error for this your mode of reasoning.

God is Love, and anyone who does not love his fellow human is in danger of hell, according to the Bible. In Islam, Allah is not Love. Once you join Islam you cannot leave anymore. Any attempt for you to leave the religion will be suicidal. They'll instantly come for your head. That's the commandment they received from their god.

The Islam that you ran to is nothing but, pure darkness...

Don't seek human, you should always commune with God.

God is a spirit and those who worship him must worship him in truth and IN SPIRIT.

There's always a couple of bad egss but, you don't make your conclusion by that

Ushame:
I will improve on this topic when am free.


I will give detailed view, share videos and even pictures and opinions of those that had similar experience

You were just practicing religion. You never once met Jesus. Hence, biblically speaking, you were not a follower of Christ. You can't be a follower of Christ until you become born again and the Spirit of God dwells in you. I invite you to come fellowship with Jesus, and not with men. He's the only One who loves you so much that He gave Himself for you. The MFM guys represented themselves and not Jesus. Even Jesus is angry with them as we speak. He was the one who commanded us to love our neighbors as ourselves.

Beware of Islam. Don't put your soul on the path of hell.

I just found a quote on Facebook this morning. It says "Islam is the only religion that bribes you to join Islam but if you change your mind, you'll be threatened with death." This is so true.

However, I'm not inviting you to come to religion. I'm inviting you to come to Jesus. Come have fellowship with the Son, and this fellowship is also a fellowship with the Father. Remember, Jesus loves you. He gave Himself for you, and for those MFM guys.

thesicilian:
The setting that's making him leave Christianity is what he'll find in any typical community in the world. I'm sure he also met some really nice people there as well but he's not talking about those.
Deep down I feel he's really leaving because the miracle he hoped for did not come in his schedule.

His attention was on man instead of God. This is already misplaced.

Ushame:
not that particular church. Quite the contrary, they treated me as someone should be treated but that place opened my eyes to the reality of Christianity.

Listen to Islam, you will find peace

Just try not to get brainwashed to join terrorism sha. We already have so much to deal with in our hands.

Ushame:
Ku are funny

Am telling u what we saw there, it a common thing


Ask anyone there if phone theft is not a regular stuff and if i lied about the place

When you finally join Islam and islamic terrorists raid your mosque and neighborhood to kidnap, raype and kpai you and your folks..

If you survive it, I recommend you become a Buddhist, start worshipping cows.

BlackfireX:
Ask that your friends what is the punishment for apostasy in Islam?

I will wait

What's the punishment for leaving Christianity or blaspheming historically?

MouthOdor:
What's the punishment for leaving Christianity or blaspheming historically?

Are you the new rant, you didn't ask about me
I will make you stupid and leave Islam or question that Arabian lies.

Now I asked a question you answer, then you ask --- I answer

Now can you answer my question?

BlackfireX:
Are you the new rant, you didn't ask about me

I've been seeing your nonsense hence why I decided to come back to the platform. My original account that I used to crucify many of your Christian buddies on this platform was created in 2014.

I will make you stupid and leave Islam or question that Arabian lies.

You're quite a chestbeater I can't wait to expose your man worship-eating god and drinking his blood every Sunday cult

Now I asked a question you answer, then you ask --- I answer

Now can you answer my question?

I'll answer your question, the punishment for apostasy in Islam is death. I support and make no apology for it.

Now answer my question, what was the punishment for apostasy (like denying the Trinity or blaspheming the Holy Spirit) historically for Christians? Christianity is a 2000 year old religion, what did Christians do to apostates?! Answer!

MouthOdor:
I've been seeing your nonsense hence why I decided to come back to the platform. My original account that I used to crucify many of your Christian buddies on this platform was created in 2014.



You're quite a chestbeater I can't wait to expose your man worship-eating god and drinking his blood every Sunday cult



I'll answer your question, the punishment for apostasy in Islam is death. I support and make no apology for it.

Now answer my question, what was the punishment for apostasy (like denying the Trinity or blaspheming the Holy Spirit) historically for Christians? Christianity is a 2000 year old religion, what did Christians do to apostates?! Answer!

Response 1: I am glad you came back because back then seun was aiding muslims but now we can discuss that is why your fellow mullahs have become obsolete, I was taking you serious until you said my posts are nonsense-- 😂 that was how I know your level .

Response 2: I am a chest beater 😂 we will see how loud it will sound, and mind you a gorilla that beats its chest is an alpha male , hmmmm you will expose me , please 🙏 that is what I have been begging these obsolete mulsims on the platform to end me.... and those who promised to end me ---- are on the run 🏃.

Man eating flesh god every Sunday? You have just exposed yourself more, I love this

Response 3: DEATH for apostate according to Quran. Sirats , hadiths, I hope you all that are joining Islam are reading this, and these are the reasons those who are Muslims are afraid to leave Islam--- but not to worry Ruih Al- Qudus is setting people free from the shackles of the cult Islam.
ONE of the reasons that this apostate law was enacted is because Qutham used money and gifts to induced people to his religion like a ponzi scheme and leaving means death.

Response 4: Habibi Christainity is based on CHRIST THE HOLY ONE. let me repeat it again in the language you will understand: CHRISTAINITY is based on YASUA AL MASSIH, MALIK AL - MULUK, IBN ELAHA, RABB AL-ARBAB , AL RAHMANI. Hallelujah I love this , don't you love the sound of those name --- wonderful-- I tell you IQRA

Now let's look at what happened when people left him when he walked the surface of the earth what did he do?

​John 6:66–67
"From this time many of his disciples turned back and no longer followed him. 'You do not want to leave too, do you?' Jesus asked the Twelve."

I can give you many examples of this LOVING GOD the Holy One who loved those who rejected him even to the point of becoming a man

Tekbil
YASU AL MASSIH IBN ELAHA

BlackfireX:
Response 1: I am glad you came back because back then seun was aiding muslims but now we can discuss that is why your fellow mullahs have become obsolete, I was taking you serious until you said my posts are nonsense-- 😂 that was how I know your level.

Seems I hurt your feelings, you're so low tier.

Response 2: I am a chest beater 😂 we will see how loud it will sound, and mind you a gorilla that beats its chest is an alpha male , hmmmm you will expose me , please 🙏 that is what I have been begging these obsolete mulsims on the platform to end me.... and those who promised to end me ---- are on the run 🏃.

Look at how he's gassing himself

Man eating flesh god every Sunday? You have just exposed yourself more, I love this

I dare you to deny you aren't a cannibal that eats god's flesh and drink his blood every Sunday, I'm begging you to deny it

Response 3: DEATH for apostate according to Quran. Sirats , hadiths, I hope you all that are joining Islam are reading this, and these are the reasons those who are Muslims are afraid to leave Islam--- but not to worry Ruih Al- Qudus is setting people free from the shackles of the cult Islam.
ONE of the reasons that this apostate law was enacted is because Qutham used money and gifts to induced people to his religion like a ponzi scheme and leaving means death.

Do you have an actual objection to apostasy laws? It's in your Bible, your God aka Jesus revealed it. Except you wanna insult your God for revealing a cult teachings in Deuteronomy 13:6-11

Response 4: Habibi Christainity is based on CHRIST THE HOLY ONE. let me repeat it again in the language you will understand: CHRISTAINITY is based on YASUA AL MASSIH, MALIK AL - MULUK, IBN ELAHA, RABB AL-ARBAB , AL RAHMANI. Hallelujah I love this , don't you love the sound of those name --- wonderful-- I tell you IQRA

Why did that Jesus inspire apostasy laws in the Old Testament? If the Holy Spirit is guiding the church, why did Christians kill apostates and blasphemers? I need answers, don't run o

Now let's look at what happened when people left him when he walked the surface of the earth what did he do?

​John 6:66–67
"From this time many of his disciples turned back and no longer followed him. 'You do not want to leave too, do you?' Jesus asked the Twelve."

I can give you many examples of this LOVING GOD the Holy One who loved those who rejected him even to the point of becoming a man

Tekbil
YASU AL MASSIH IBN ELAHA

Don't preach, engage with my posts and questions.

BlackfireX:
I don't know how old you are but you don't start by insulting someone or you were not taught in your home? Are you from a broken home ? Or mutah?

Where did I insult you? Are schizophrenic and seeing what doesn't exist? And no I'm not from a broken home, and we don't do Mutah, we're sunni Muslims. I can throw cheap shots too

I gave responses to your objections and I didn't insult you but you keep throwing shades --- is that how empty you are?

Show me where I insulted you dude, if you're offended that I said the truth about your beliefs, then that's on you. But please respond to my objections and responses

This ought to be a discussion a dialogue with evidences not insults.

I'm seeing that you're already giving up, okay I'll be nicer next time

Anyway since i have seen your IQ and upbringing I won't waste my time on you
Shkran

Are you running already? We just getting started na, common now bro