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HeatSeeker:
O ye black slave of Islam! Be gone from my mentions!

It would be a waste of my time educating you on this. Good and read the blood stained history of your religion. I bet you would be very pleased with the amount of bloodshed accomplished in the name of Allah.

HeatSeeker:
Atrocities were committed on both ends. The islamic world should also tell us what they did to Christian pilgrims visiting Jerusalem. None of their writers will mention that it was their actions that eventually led to the idea that Christians must take the Holy land for themselves. The crusades were a direct response to islamic aggression towards Christian pilgrims.

Ishilove:
I came across this very interesting post about the Christian crusades that began sometime in the first century AD.

The thing about history is this: it is difficult to come across a completely unbiased narration of events. I'll leave you to judge.

Kindly exit now if you have the attention span of a tweet.

sweetjohn:
Nonesense post. The crusade was formed as a reesult of the Muslim Ottoman Empire that were killing millions of Christians and jews in Europe and around the world. The European Christians then formed the crusade to teach Muslims a lesson and defend Christianity from extinction[s][/s]

~ Source: Destiny Disrupted: A History of the World Through Islamic Eyes by Tamim Ansary

The carnage unleashed by the Christian Crusaders upon the Islamic world they invaded, ostensibly to avenge the mistreatment of Christian pilgrims:

Ishilove:
You're missing the point. Yes, the Crusades did not arise in a vacuum; They were, in part, a response to years of conflict and Muslim expansion into Christian lands. But that doesn't mean they should be seen as some glorious or heroic campaign. They also involved massacres, brutality, and the suffering of countless innocent people. History is best understood with all its complexity, not through romanticised stories.

Like HeatSeeker pointed out up there, blood curdling, hair raising atrocities were committed on both sides.

Iyobaba:
These foreign religions aren't from God, they're all man made and it's clear as day 😂

Ishilove:
You're missing the point. Yes, the Crusades did not arise in a vacuum; They were, in part, a response to years of conflict and Muslim expansion into Christian lands. But that doesn't mean they should be seen as some glorious or heroic campaign. They also involved massacres, brutality, and the suffering of countless innocent people. History is best understood with all its complexity, not through romanticised stories.

Like HeatSeeker pointed out up there, blood curdling, hair raising atrocities were committed on both sides.

BioData45:
I hope you all wake to see that religion is fake

sweetjohn:
My dear, if the Muslims think only them have monopolies of violent, then the Christian’s will teach them another worst bitter lessons. Muslims are always associated with violent from the inception of this their religion. They (the Ottoman Empire) were warned by the Pope and European leaders for decades to stop invading Christian lands and killing Christians instead they see it as expansion through jihad and conquest. So in that situation you expects Christian to just surrender themselves for slaughtering just as you expect Israel to surrender themselves for Hamas and Hezebollah to keep killing them. That’s why I said your post is a nonesense post. What kind of a father will you be if someone you know you are 10x stronger than is killing your wife and children in your presence?

sweetjohn:
Nonesense post. The crusade was formed as a reesult of the Muslim Ottoman Empire that were killing millions of [b]Christians and jews in Europe and around the world. The European Christians then formed the crusade to teach Muslims a lesson and defend Christianity [/b]from extinction[s][/s]

omojeesu:
Wicked revisionism!
To project Muslims as victims
And project Islamophobia
When they are till this day
The chief terrorists of the world.
Jihadists will kill many more
Before Jesus returns...

Ishilove:
You're missing the point. Yes, the Crusades did not arise in a vacuum; They were, in part, a response to years of conflict and Muslim expansion into Christian lands. But that doesn't mean they should be seen as some glorious or heroic campaign. They also involved massacres, brutality, and the suffering of countless innocent people. History is best understood with all its complexity, not through romanticised stories.

Like HeatSeeker pointed out up there, blood curdling, hair raising atrocities were committed on both sides.

Ishilove:
Actually, it is. I don't want anyone to start spamming the thread with "plz summarize".

Kevineleven:
Every system you see today, the law , religion and government was created to end violence, human cannot coexist in peace.
Except they are controlled, to wake up is to fight for freedom, back to violence..

CodexiveZee:
Bro you just shot yourself on the food. Nobody should give the crusaders glorious or heroic campaign but we can give the Muslim armies who conquer Jerusalem in 638 CE a glorious and heroics campaign, right? My goodness.

Your write-up literally made the crusaders look like the bad guys or they were the ones who started it when you know fully well that those stupid military expansion of the early Rashidun Caliphate brought it all. Imagine another country came to conquest us by force, killed those who refuse to convert, displace and change everything about us that exactly what your religion of peace did so technically Crusaders came to be because of those blood sucking dushbags invading christian and Jewish territories.

Ishilove:
The day I give a flying frock what you or anyone thinks about me will be a very cold day in hell. Very very cold day indeed.

Take your sincere observations and shove it up the parts of your anatomy that never see the sun.

BioData45:
I hope you all wake to see that religion is fake

GloriousGbola:
this post is spambot compliant

BioData45:
Lol. Religion is not the best tool for control, it's made by oppressors to make their sheep stay gullible.

Ishilove:
The day I give a flying frock what you or anyone thinks about me will be a very cold day in hell. Very very cold day indeed.

Take your sincere observations and shove it up the parts of your anatomy that never see the sun.

Kobojunkie:
Both sides? Islam violently colonized Christian nations, and that colonization continues to this very day, with half of Africa still under the scourge and enslavement of Islam. Over 40 million people worldwide live as slaves, and the vast majority of them are Africans enslaved in Islamic countries.

2. They do write of it. Much of what is known of the Crusades comes from Islamic sources. They wrote of how the Islamic Allah gave Islam victory over the Christians and the acts they committed against Christians, Jews, and Pagans in the name of Allah. The problem is that in this day of the internet, there has been a campaign to whitewash Islam to make it seem an oppressed political system. But the authentic and revered sources in Islam contain the records to prove Islam for what it really is, a religion spread mostly by violence and subjugation.

Kobojunkie:
The Crusades did not begin in the first century AD. That's almost 10 centuries(1000 years) after the first century. And the crusades came after the Islamist warlords of Arabia had invaded and colonized the following lands, reducing much of the population to slave status:
⚈ Christian Egypt(Conquered between 639 - 642)
⚈ Christian Italy(even attacking Rome in 846)
⚈ Christian Libya (647 AD - 742 AD)
⚈ Christian Tinusia (647 AD - 742 AD)
⚈ Christian Algeria (647 AD - 742 AD)
⚈ Christian Morocco (647 AD - 742 AD)
⚈ Christian Cypress(even attacking Rome in 846)
⚈ Christian Crete (even attacking Rome in 846)
⚈ Christian Armenia (638 AD - 639 AD)
⚈ Christian Spain ( 711 AD - 714 AD)
⚈ Christian Portugal ( 711 AD - 714 AD)
⚈ Christian Byzantine/Turkey (Circa 8th century)
⚈ Christian Syria-Palestine( 634 AD - 641 AD) .

All of the above were regions that Islam invaded and colonized, enslaving and massacring its way through the Christian world. All of the above took place before the Christians, who then decided it was best they fought back if they were to survive the scourge.