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johnstin:
https://ransomedbychrist.com/index.php?topic=1477.msg1479#msg1479

All what you have stated here are on points. But what shall it profit a man to have a congregation and end up in hell fire.

EnemyofGod4:
Because Some pastor's has come to realized that hellfire doesn't exist,

God , Satan, Jesus Christ, Angels and demons doesn't exist, there's no reliable concretable approvable evidence of their existence,

heaven and hellfire is just a figment of imagination, it's not real.

Open your eyes and free yourself from religious bondage.

Anyone leading a congregation and believe there is no hell, such a person is not a pastor but a conman and a businessman. He is leading his congregation to eternal damnation.

Because they know hell doesn't exist

LordLicifer:
Because they know hell doesn't exist

Of course there is hell but it simply means grave so both righteous and unrighteous goes there!

angelboy01:
God is love not evil bro, please understand that. A loving God won't sentence his creation infinitely for a sin he committed in a finite world.. An omniscient, omnipotent God already knew me before he formed me. So why will he create me to burn in hell for a meaningless sin as little as adultery. Even an eartly judge won't sentence you to death by burning..

Yes, God is love and love is just! And just is dictates that everyone must given their just is reward be it good or evil.

The new heaven and earth is the reward of the righteous, thus lake of fire is the reward of the evil.

And you say adultery is meaningless yet when your wife did it, you wanted ki.... her and send her to hel just for the first one she did. So imagine what hel you would send her to if you count that she has done it 3200 times?

Please delu yourself, don't deceive others and increase your puni....t

MaxInDHouse:
Of course there is hell but it simply means grave so both righteous and unrighteous goes there!

Naah there is no hell. No proofs to back the existence of hell up, just believes.

They are now aware that hell
Fire doesn't exist

Because they know that there is nothing like that.

LordLicifer:
Naah there is no hell. No proofs to back the existence of hell up, just believes.

Do you need proofs to believe that the dead are buried in graves?😟

keemsleek:
They no most of thier church members will stop coming to the church, So they preach what the world wants to hear and not what the gospel says.

Where does the gospel say that people will burn in hell fire forever?

gohf:
Matt.5.22 - But I say, if you are angry with someone, you are subject to judgment! If you call someone an idiot, you are in danger of being brought before the high council. And if you curse someone, you are in danger of the fires of hell.
Matt.5.29 - So if your eye--even if it is your good eye--causes you to lust, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.
Matt.5.30 - And if your hand--even if it is your stronger hand--causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.
Matt.7.13 - "You can enter God's Kingdom only through the narrow gate. The highway to hell is broad, and its gate is wide for the many who choose the easy way.
Matt.10.28 - "Don't be afraid of those who want to kill you. They can only kill your body; they cannot touch your soul. Fear only God, who can destroy both soul and body in hell.
Matt.16.18 - Now I say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and all the powers of hell will not conquer it.
Matt.18.9 - And if your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better to enter heaven half blind than to have two eyes and be thrown into hell.
Matt.23.15 - Yes, how terrible it will be for you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. For you cross land and sea to make one convert, and then you turn him into twice the son of hell as you yourselves are.
Matt.23.33 - Snakes! Sons of vipers! How will you escape the judgment of hell?
Luke.12.5 - But I'll tell you whom to fear. Fear God, who has the power to kill people and then throw them into hell.

Explain the verse below about "Hell".

gohf:
lol 🤣😂 and you think God is a man, bro He burnt sodom and gomorah down to a crisp even the stones self burn

Did he burn them in hell?

Paulnoma:
**Matthew 5:22**
"But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, 'You fool!' will be liable to the hell of fire."

**Matthew 5:29-30**
"If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell. And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body go into hell."


**Matthew 10:28**
"And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell."

**Matthew 18:8-9**
"And if your hand or your foot causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life crippled or lame than with two hands or two feet to be thrown into the eternal fire. And if your eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life with one eye than with two eyes to enter in to hell with both eyes.

**Luke 16:19-31 (ESV)**

"There was a rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and who feasted sumptuously every day. And at his gate was laid a poor man named Lazarus, covered with sores, who desired to be fed with what fell from the rich man's table. Moreover, even the dogs came and licked his sores.

The poor man died and was carried by the angels to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried, and in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham far off and Lazarus at his side.

And he called out, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus to dip the end of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am in anguish in this flame.'

But Abraham said, 'Child, remember that you in your lifetime received your good things, and Lazarus in like manner bad things; but now he is comforted here, and you are in anguish. And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, in order that those who would pass from here to you may not be able, and none may cross from there to us.'


And he said, 'Then I beg you, father, to send him to my father's house for I have five brothers so that he may warn them, lest they also come into this place of torment.'
But Abraham said, 'They have Moses and the Prophets; let them hear them.'
And he said, 'No, father Abraham, but if someone goes to them from the dead, they will repent.'
He said to him, 'If they do not hear Moses and the Prophets neither will they believe is someone rises from the grave.

Is "Hades" and "Hell" the same?

Truthseeker10:
Did he burn them in hell?

Are they still alive today?🙂

Truthseeker10:
Where does the gospel say that people will burn in hell fire forever?

Matthew 25:41
"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.'"

Matthew 25:46
"Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."

Revelation 20:12–15
"...Anyone whose name was not found written in the Book of Life was thrown into the lake of fire."

Mark 9:43–48
Jesus warns about "the fire that never shall be quenched," describing hell as a place where "the worm does not die and the fire is not quenched."

2 Thessalonians 1:8–9
"He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel... They will be punished with everlasting destruction and shut out from the presence of the Lord.

Revelation 21:8
"But the cowardly, the unbelieving... murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."

If you are a Christian pls get a hardcopy bible or download one on your phone. Salvation should be the first topic in every church then others can follow. The bible said seek first the kingdom of God and every other things shall be added unto thee.

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The wages of sin is death.

Hell was invented to scare the living. Catholics upped the ante by inventing Purgatory. Different denominations in Christianity is people trying erroneously to forge better understanding of God. It doesn't help that Christianity is not one true and loving family. Divisions and unhealthy competition exist in the so-called body of Christ.

Solution: Keep your wallets at home. No transfers to any accounts belonging to any church.

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Paulnoma:
Revelation 14:10-11 "he will be tormented with fire and sulfur... the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever"
Revelation 19:20 the beast and false prophet "thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with sulfur"
Revelation 20:10 the devil thrown into the lake of fire, "tormented day and night forever and ever"
Revelation 20:13-15 Death and Hades thrown into the lake of fire. "This is the second death, the lake of fire. And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire."
Revelation 21:8 "the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars — their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death"

In Revelation 20:14, Why is death and Hades thrown into the "lake of fire", What sin did they commit?

MrPresident1:
There is no place up there in the skies where God incinerates the spirits of dead people.

Hell is when people are suffering
Heaven is when people are enjoying

When people die, their soul goes to rest in God and they reincarnate back to suffer for the sins or enjoy for the deeds of past life

Bible verse for the bolded above.

fynex:
Yes Jesus Christ taught about it.

where?

Can you please quote any disciples who preached this horrible hell stuff in the Bible?🙂

keemsleek:
Matthew 25:41
"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.'"

Matthew 25:46
"Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."

Revelation 20:12–15
"...Anyone whose name was not found written in the Book of Life was thrown into the lake of fire."

Mark 9:43–48
Jesus warns about "the fire that never shall be quenched," describing hell as a place where "the worm does not die and the fire is not quenched."

2 Thessalonians 1:8–9
"He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel... They will be punished with everlasting destruction and shut out from the presence of the Lord.

Revelation 21:8
"But the cowardly, the unbelieving... murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."

If you are a Christian pls get a hardcopy bible or download one on your phone. Salvation should be the first topic in every church then others can follow. The bible said seek first the kingdom of God and every other things shall be added unto thee.

keemsleek:
Matthew 25:41
"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.'"

Matthew 25:46
"Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."

Revelation 20:12–15
"...Anyone whose name was not found written in the Book of Life was thrown into the lake of fire."

Mark 9:43–48
Jesus warns about "the fire that never shall be quenched," describing hell as a place where "the worm does not die and the fire is not quenched."

2 Thessalonians 1:8–9
"He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel... They will be punished with everlasting destruction and shut out from the presence of the Lord.

Revelation 21:8
"But the cowardly, the unbelieving... murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."

If you are a Christian pls get a hardcopy bible or download one on your phone. Salvation should be the first topic in every church then others can follow. The bible said seek first the kingdom of God and every other things shall be added unto thee.

Explain the bible verse below.

MaxInDHouse:
Are they still alive today?🙂

lol...abi na

MaxInDHouse:
Can you please quote any disciples who preached this horrible hell stuff in the Bible?🙂

Every verse are from the New Testament. Pick up your bible are read so you would understand more sir.

keemsleek:
Every verse are from the New Testament. Pick up your bible are read so you would understand more sir.

I have asked you to explain Revelation 20:14 as your evidence for hell fire. I have not gotten a response yet

Truthseeker10:
I have asked you to explain Revelation 20:14 as your evidence for hell fire. I have not gotten a response yet

Death and hell were cast into the lake of fire"
In this passage, "death" refers to the power of physical death, and "hell" (translated from the Greek word Hades) refers to the temporary place where the dead await final judgment.
At the end of time, after everyone has been judged, death itself will no longer exist, and Hades will no longer be needed. Both are symbolically thrown into the lake of fire, showing that they are permanently destroyed.

The lake of fire
The lake of fire represents God's final judgment. It is different from Hades. Hades is temporary, while the lake of fire is described as the final destination after judgment.

This is the second death"
The first death is physical death—when a person's body dies.
The second death is the final separation from God after the last judgment. Revelation explains this in the next verse:

Revelation 20:15: "And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."
This means that those whose names are not in the Book of Life face the second death.

MaxInDHouse:
Do you need proofs to believe that the dead are buried in graves?😟

Is that your proofs that hell exists?

Anyway, No i don't because i know that the dead are buried in the graves i buried my father in a grave.


Now what is your point? Make it clear please, don't answer questions with a different question.. please!

keemsleek:
Death and hell were cast into the lake of fire"
In this passage, "death" refers to the power of physical death, and "hell" (translated from the Greek word Hades) refers to the temporary place where the dead await final judgment.
At the end of time, after everyone has been judged, death itself will no longer exist, and Hades will no longer be needed. Both are symbolically thrown into the lake of fire, showing that they are permanently destroyed.

The lake of fire
The lake of fire represents God's final judgment. It is different from Hades. Hades is temporary, while the lake of fire is described as the final destination after judgment.

This is the second death"
The first death is physical death—when a person's body dies.
The second death is the final separation from God after the last judgment. Revelation explains this in the next verse:

Revelation 20:15: "And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."
This means that those whose names are not in the Book of Life face the second death.

So are you saying that Hades and death will permanently be destroyed in Hell fire?

keemsleek:
Every verse are from the New Testament. Pick up your bible are read so you would understand more sir.

None of Jesus' disciples preached about some horrible hell which means you people misunderstood Jesus!😟

LordLicifer:
Is that your proofs that hell exists?
Anyway, No i don't because i know that the dead are buried in the graves i buried my father in a grave.
Now what is your point? Make it clear please, don't answer questions with a different question.. please!

Hell is an old English for Grave so hell/grave exists but it's the meaning all these church people are giving it that's lies!🙂

Truthseeker10:
So are you saying that Hades and death will permanently be destroyed in Hell fire?

Yes there will be no more death and Hades because there will be no more death and evil when the new earth comes

MaxInDHouse:
None of Jesus' disciples preached about some horrible hell which means you people misunderstood Jesus!😟

Revelation was written by John according to the revelations he saw.

The others where written by Paul and others by the disciples telling the life of jesus his preaching and his ways


Lol pls read ur bible. Have a nice day.

keemsleek:
Yes there will be no more death and Hades because there will be no more death and evil when the new earth comes

Ok. Explain Matthew 10:28.