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Nehruvia:

Oga be calming down and let us hate in peace. Some of you in this thread like making everything logical and academic. Sometimes allow people to be irrational and petty abeg. Allow people to hate if they want to hate. How does it affect you, if you're not secretly a Senegalese or Congolese in disguise? Why should we feel bad for the foolishness of African teams in a tournament we didn't even participate in?

Abeg allow people to hate in peace. Let's stop all this fake shalaye. Fronting for other African countries no go add shimgbai to your bank account!

I believe I've made my points clear. And nobody's confiscating your pettiness license, so chill out.

The 86th minute curse. https://x.com/i/status/2072447230439522381.

minfelix:
As African let break away from it…2018 world cup Korea led Germany 1-0, in the die mins Germans piled up the pressure and were looking for an equalizer, Korea still found a way to finally bury them with a late counter 2-0…
This thing is not about “hyper-pontification”

Our problem as african is to remain focus…the chance for the most hyper informed black african team losing a match they had in control is almost 95%.. now flip to Asian history of when they are mostly inform against a not too inform European opponent….If Senegal was a Japan on 2-0 or Korea on 2-0 (especially against these European) bro forget that game is a wrap up…..

NasirIbnLaAhad:
Stop trying to bait me into a different, senseless argument. The points I've been trying to make to you lot is very simple:
1. Stop making people feel bad for feeling bad for Senegal and other African teams, especially since we suffer from the same problems
2. This is the perfect time for us to look inwards and examine why black nations always lose in this exact same manner and find a way to stop it in the future.

Now why on God's green earth is this such an issue here? Is this a hot take now?

Keep Nigeria out of what befell the teams last night. Is that too much to ask for?

Are black nations the only one booted out so far? Germany and Holland are black nations Abi, oh God!

minfelix:
As African let break away from it…2018 world cup Korea led Germany 1-0, in the die mins Germans piled up the pressure and were looking for an equalizer, Korea still found a way to finally bury them with a late counter 2-0…
This thing is not about “hyper-pontification”

Our problem as african is to remain focus…the chance for the most hyper informed black african team losing a match they had in control is almost 95%.. now flip to Asian history of when they are mostly inform against a not too inform European opponent….If Senegal was a Japan on 2-0 or Korea on 2-0 (especially against these European) bro forget that game is a wrap up…..

Why did use the Korea match
What happened in the Japan vs Belgium match?
Or the Japan vs Brazil?
There are so many other matches like that and they don't even involve an African team
I really don't know why you guys are trying to make it look like it's just an African team problem in this thread

Nehruvia:

Oga be calming down and let us hate in peace. Some of you in this thread like making everything logical and academic. Sometimes allow people to be irrational and petty abeg. Allow people to hate if they want to hate. How does it affect you, if you're not secretly a Senegalese or Congolese in disguise? Why should we feel bad for the foolishness of African teams in a tournament we didn't even participate in?

Abeg allow people to hate in peace. Let's stop all this fake shalaye. Fronting for other African countries no go add shimgbai to your bank account!

If both teams had qualified yesterday baba for come with epistles how Nigeria is lagging behind but since both countries lost it has become a black man problem 😂 shior

4-4 draw that didn't prove consequential as bad as it was that's the crucial difference.

minfelix:
Of all defense, that oga want to defend that 4-4 draw🤣

Woulda coulda shoulda. The fact is it didn't happen.

NasirIbnLaAhad:
Exactamundo. You're even going too far with Sierra Leone. Just this year's AFCON, not even up to a year ago, we would have completely bottled a 3 goal lead against Tunisia if Tunisia had 15-20 more extra minutes. They completely had our number towards the end of the match.

NasirIbnLaAhad:
You're switching lanes on me. CAF pitch conditions, refereeing scandals, the Libya nonsense, none of that has anything to do with why black African teams blew multi-goal leads yesterday. That's an entirely different conversation, and you know it.

And every nation carrying their own shit is exactly my point, and not a rebuttal to it - which you seem to think it is. I'm not asking you to feel sympathy for Senegal or drape yourself in continental grief. I'm saying: watch what just happened to them, because it's a preview of what happens to us the moment we're in that position again. You don't have to like your rival to study his mistakes so you don't repeat them. So call it whatever you want, mentality, game management, bottle, but pretending it's purely isolated per-country and has zero relevance to Nigeria is the actual delusion here. We've shown the same symptoms. 2018 didn't happen to Senegal, it happened to us. That's not CAF's fault, that's not a bad pitch, that's players losing composure with the finish line in sight, same as what just happened three times in a row just yesterday. If your response to seeing that pattern is "not my problem, let them rot," you're choosing to learn nothing from a free lesson that just got played out in real time on the biggest stage in football.

And please quit with the strawmen. Who said anything about taking the fall for other country's decisions? Nobody said Nigeria falls when Congo falls. I said the underlying disease -- folding under pressure with a lead in hand -- isn't unique to whichever federation is currently getting mocked. It's shown up too many times across too many different African teams, under different coaches, different eras, different CAF administrations, for it to be a coincidence specific to "their" bad decisions. When the same failure keeps recurring across unrelated teams, that's a pattern, not a series of unrelated accidents.

You want to rejoice at their misfortune because of how Nigeria's been treated? Fine, that's your right. But don't confuse enjoying their downfall with understanding it. Laugh all you want. Just don't be shocked when we're the ones 2-0 up in a tournament knockout and it slips through our fingers exactly the same way, because we spent this week celebrating and pointing and laughing at others instead of taking notes from their gaffes.

You're actually right. We need to learn our lessons from the failures of these teams at the World Cup and use it to improve our game in the future. That's correct. Hopefully we can do that.

But for now let us hate on the rest of Africa in peace and bask in their sorrows.

Goke7:
Keep Nigeria out of what befell the teams last night. Is that too much to ask for?

Are black nations the only one booted out so far? Germany and Holland are black nations Abi, oh God!

Abi one time when Belgium used 'Goliath' to beat Japan at the world cup towards the end of the game nko?

minfelix:
• South Africa conceded in the 90+2nd
• Ivory Coast conceded in the 86th
• DR Congo conceded in the 75th & 86th
• Senegal conceded in the 86th, 89th, and 120+5th minutes to lose a two-goal lead.

Every CAF team that took the lead or equalised ended up conceding late, and all failed to hold on.


Nigeria vs Poland 94th min(i had to drag 9ja into it cos its also smelling around us)🤣🤣

I think it will be an aberration for any caf team coach to not know 3 key players that can be most useful in preventing this mishap. Did you notice most of the goals/threats leading to these late goals conceded came through the wings? Why can't they then double up on there and then let a pacy leg bully be brought on as lone man chaser? I agree this thing dey affect Nigeria too. Infact We are where we are because during qualifiers, some dumb players were strolling or refusing to duel for even teams like lesotho and rwanda.

Someone even opined that ts better we only start playing during 2nd half so we can conserve energy.


Which approach go even work now for African teams bayii? We can't even brag of having comeback princes amongs caf ranks for global stage asides Nigeria. 😔😤

I shall continue exercising my right to schadenfreude aka bad belle, for those of us who prefer the higher linguistics.

That said, it's doublespeak to reject Pan-Africanism only to invoke "Africa" whenever these teams lose.

These ten countries are not representatives of Africa in a collective identity sense but geographic sense. They are sovereign national teams. NT football teams are not valid proxies for the psychology of an entire continent.

Critique their tactics or mentality if you wish, but inferring an 'African mentality' from the performances of a handful of national teams is an essentialist error.

When European teams repeatedly lose on penalties, no serious analyst speaks of a "European mentality." When Asian teams implode defensively, no one infers an "Asian psyche." The analysis remains at the level of the team, coach, or federation.

We must instinctively understand that football outcomes belong first to teams, not continents.

Let us return to the important thing, badbele! Amen?

Obviously. Make everybody bear him mama name. This by force Collective shame is a no.

Odunayaw:
I shall continue exercising my right to schadenfreude aka bad belle, for those of us who prefer the higher linguistics.

That said, it's doublespeak to reject Pan-Africanism only to invoke "Africa" whenever these teams lose.

These ten countries are not representatives of Africa in a collective identity sense but geographic sense. They are sovereign national teams. NT football teams are not valid proxies for the psychology of an entire continent.

Critique their tactics or mentality if you wish, but inferring an 'African mentality' from the performances of a handful of national teams is an essentialist error.

When European teams repeatedly lose on penalties, no serious analyst speaks of a "European mentality." When Asian teams implode defensively, no one infers an "Asian psyche." The analysis remains at the level of the team, coach, or federation.

We must instinctively understand that football outcomes belong first to teams, not continents.

Let us return to the important thing, badbele! Amen?

mostob:
Please which app did you use?

I used Happyscribe AI Audio to text app

chrisooblog:
4-4 draw that didn't prove consequential as bad as it was that's the crucial difference.

The SE has equally blown a lead and lost the game at the world cup before, it's nothing new.

Odunayaw:
I shall continue exercising my right to schadenfreude aka bad belle, for those of us who prefer the higher linguistics.

That said, it's doublespeak to reject Pan-Africanism only to invoke "Africa" whenever these teams lose.

These ten countries are not representatives of Africa in a collective identity sense but geographic sense. They are sovereign national teams. NT football teams are not valid proxies for the psychology of an entire continent.

Critique their tactics or mentality if you wish, but inferring an 'African mentality' from the performances of a handful of national teams is an essentialist error.

When European teams repeatedly lose on penalties, no serious analyst speaks of a "European mentality." When Asian teams implode defensively, no one infers an "Asian psyche." The analysis remains at the level of the team, coach, or federation.

We must instinctively understand that football outcomes belong first to teams, not continents.

Let us return to the important thing, badbele! Amen?

My brother o ti su mi o!

You know if those countries win yesterday na Nigeria go chop all the beating for this thread! Now they lose na we go still chop beating.

AndSunGorilla:
Abi one time when Belgium used 'Goliath' to beat Japan at the world cup towards the end of the game nko?

You no know say Japan na black nation too!

The way the English FA set up Wembley for the fans that couldn't travel to the USA for this World Cup>>>>>

Those gigantic screens again. Nff can never

Portugal vs Croatia. Most interesting game today. 41 year old Ronaldo vs 40 year old Modric. End of an era. One of these legends is going home today . Hoping it’s Croatia 😂

Samueltemi337:
Why did use the Korea match
What happened in the Japan vs Belgium match?
Or the Japan vs Brazil?
There are so many other matches like that and they don't even involve an African team
I really don't know why you guys are trying to make it look like it's just an African team problem in this thread

Why are you all just emotionally being triggered by the mention of this common menace that faces us?…..The Japan you are calling have experienced more successes or have covered more ground than all Africans put together especially black african at the world cup level by qualifying to knockout stage for like 6 different editions(No african team have eqauled that)…before we dreamed to reach Semifinals Korea has already broken that record.

Now to the emboldened, Baba its an African problem, and its not only on this thread they are discussing it…try dey observe posts by bloggers on Facebook,Tiktok,Twitter,Instagram..everyone is complaining thesame thing about African on videos,text and comment section….we here in Nairaland are just adding technical analysis and being elite with our dispositions.

BABA its majorly an AFRICAN THING from our Powerhouse to Minnows(if we be Haiti, Tahiti and Curacao then no issue) we are Africans with history of world class players, we should be gracing knockout stages like water and reaching Semifinal and Final like water, how can we do this is by avoiding this annoying defeat to some of these un-inform European teams, see as Paraguay take pursue Germany(if na Africa we go surely bottle that lead)…on no account should an entire African team not advanced to knockout stage just as we witnessed in 2018 world cup(very shameful edition where all 5 African powerhouse teams exited group stage. very very shameful!!)
And you same make people no talk🤣🤣🤣

chrisooblog:
4-4 draw that didn't prove consequential as bad as it was that's the crucial difference.

But sha we bottled cowardly a commanding lead Yes or No?

minfelix:
Why are you all just emotionally being triggered by the mention of this common menace that faces us?…..The Japan you are calling have experienced more successes or have covered more ground than all Africans put together especially black african at the world cup level by qualifying to knockout stage for like 6 different editions(No african team have eqauled that)…before we dreamed to reach Semifinals Korea has already broken that record.

Now to the emboldened, Baba its an African problem, and its not only on this thread they are discussing it…try dey observe posts by bloggers on Facebook,Tiktok,Twitter,Instagram..everyone is complaining thesame thing about African on videos,text and comment section….we here in Nairaland are just adding technical analysis and being elite with our dispositions.

BABA its majorly an AFRICAN THING from our Powerhouse to Minnows(if we be Haiti, Tahiti and Curacao then no issue) we are Africans with history of world class players, we should be gracing knockout stages like water and reaching Semifinal and Final like water, how can we do this is by avoiding this annoying defeat to some of these un-inform European teams, see as Paraguay take pursue Germany(if na Africa we go surely bottle that lead)…on no account should an entire African team not advanced to knockout stage just as we witnessed in 2018 world cup(very shameful edition where all 5 African powerhouse teams exited group stage. very very shameful!!)
And you same make people no talk🤣🤣🤣

Emotional?
I was only correcting your wrong narrative
Nobody is talking about Japan success
The narrative that it's just an African problem is totally false

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▫️ The team was only able to train ONCE at their stadium due to unpaid facility fees. 🏟️

▫️ Bonuses linked to coach Pape Thiaw 🇸🇳 were initially not renewed, then eventually paid. ✍️💰

▫️ A friendly match was arranged immediately after arriving in the United States 🇺🇸, just 3 weeks before their opener vs France 🇫🇷, while most teams try to minimize time on-site to avoid fatigue and boredom. 😬

▫️ A second video analyst was added DURING the tournament. 🎥

▫️ No scout was present for Norway 🇳🇴 in their first match, right before facing them. ❌

▫️ Mamadou Sarr 🇸🇳 was brought to a press conference the day before the Belgium 🇧🇪 match, despite not playing a single minute in the tournament — likely frustrating for him. 😩

▫️ Kalidou Koulibaly 🇸🇳 was preferred in the starting XI over Mamadou Sarr 🇸🇳.

ℹ️ Via: lequipe

Samueltemi337:
Emotional?
I was only correcting your wrong narrative
Nobody is talking about Japan success
The narrative that it's just an African problem is totally false

the Narrative is more on Africa especially on our big big teams we expect more from…..
We have more stars than Asia in world of soccer, they should even be the ones suffering that narrative more than us….

minfelix:
Why are you all just emotionally being triggered by the mention of this common menace that faces us?…..The Japan you are calling have experienced more successes or have covered more ground than all Africans put together especially black african at the world cup level by qualifying to knockout stage for like 6 different editions(No african team have eqauled that)…before we dreamed to reach Semifinals Korea has already broken that record.

Now to the emboldened, Baba its an African problem, and its not only on this thread they are discussing it…try dey observe posts by bloggers on Facebook,Tiktok,Twitter,Instagram..everyone is complaining thesame thing about African on videos,text and comment section….we here in Nairaland are just adding technical analysis and being elite with our dispositions.

BABA its majorly an AFRICAN THING from our Powerhouse to Minnows(if we be Haiti, Tahiti and Curacao then no issue) we are Africans with history of world class players, we should be gracing knockout stages like water and reaching Semifinal and Final like water, how can we do this is by avoiding this annoying defeat to some of these un-inform European teams, see as Paraguay take pursue Germany(if na Africa we go surely bottle that lead)…on no account should an entire African team not advanced to knockout stage just as we witnessed in 2018 world cup(very shameful edition where all 5 African powerhouse teams exited group stage. very very shameful!!)
And you same make people no talk🤣🤣🤣

Let every nation and FA handle their affairs abeg.

Germany and Holland are out, and European teams too are struggling should we say it’s becoming an European problem? If Belgium had lost yesterday would we call it an European problem, please…..

That Belgium is also weak why is no one talking about that

Samueltemi337:
Emotional?
I was only correcting your wrong narrative
Nobody is talking about Japan success
The narrative that it's just an African problem is totally false

It should be more of Asian than of African…na we e dey Affect pass….we are supposed be bigger than Asia player wise

Nederland working tirelessly for Morocco.


Some of the young ones in Ajax alone.

🇳🇬 BREAKING NEWS: Daniel Daga has won his appeal and has been acquitted of all criminal charges.

A Molde statement says he is now available for selection in their next games as they await the final judgment of the case.

Goke7:
Let every nation and FA handle their affairs abeg.

Germany and Holland are out, and European teams too are struggling should we say it’s becoming an European problem? If Belgium had lost yesterday would we call it an European problem, please…..

That Belgium is also weak why is no one talking about that

Offcus everyone will handle their affairs, e no still remove am say Africa dey mostly jonz on this things more.
After Europe, Africa has the second highest number number of participants…in r16 we should be having half of the CAF reps,but iffa hear say that one happen…Like this na only 1 or at best 2fit advance to that R16….Even with Germany and Holland wey jah they will he having like 7teams in r16.
if DRC get sense England no suppose smell r16
if CIV get sense Norway no suppose smell r16
if Senegal get sense Belgium no suppose smell r16
we suppose to get like 5CAF TEAMS in that r16(plus Morocco and possibly Egypt m)

NasirIbnLaAhad:
Dude as far as this argument is concerned, I've tapped out. I could honestly keep going just to stretch the cognitive limits of these clowns, but at some point you realize you're not debating the argument, you're just debating people's mood, and moods don't respond to logic, they respond to time and consequences. Imagine one of them saying I'm being too "academic" for pointing out something so basic.

You're right that this conversation is everywhere right now, and the simple truth is because the pattern is that obvious to anyone with a brain. But some people in here would rather defend their right to be petty than sit with the discomfort of "yeah, this could easily have been us." That's fine, I'm not going to keep hosting a seminar nobody signed up for. I said my piece.

people are too petty and easily emotionally triggered here🤣🤣
Just say something humble against Nigeria wey all of us whole heartedly dey love and support or our continent Africa….you will start to see petty objections 🤣🤣.
One tell me say i dey too change mouth, becos he wants me to be analytically stationary with my analysis🤣🤣

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1MuATrcr7o/?mibextid=wwXIfr
Guys pls watch this angle replay of belgium 2-2 equalizer….If na Africa score that Equalizer, walai VAR will call the ref to cancel that goal….nothing u wan tell me, Tielamans pushed that defender before heading that ball….watch this particular replay on this link again

ChrisKels:
Nederland working tirelessly for Morocco.


Some of the young ones in Ajax alone.

And all of them may end up playing for Morocco,

But when it comes to young Nigerians FB at the big clubs,90% of them will decide to wait for their countries of birth.
Nigeria players are the most unpatriotic