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Wow, awesome. Africa is waking up. Stop sending raw materials to the West! We can refine by ourselves and create enough jobs for our population. West hold no good intentions for us! Kudos

blamingthedevil:
This newly constructed 6,000MT/Day Lithium Processing Plant In Nasarawa State is a game changer.

Next is for lithium battery manufacturing companies to set up factories in the country as well.

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I used to wonder why Africans to go abroad to mine those peoples earth and bring it to Africa

TrainPark:
Where is the anger here?
You are still stuck on immediate hunger despite my clarification ooo. Chai

Solving "immediate hunger" does not end hunger, sir. It is subsistence thinking and drives people into impulsive, hunger-driven decisions with longterm onsequences.

Sorry if I hit a nerve. My intention was to simply point our that a well thought out industry will address hunger better in the long run and in the immediate too

You are still all over the place.

Why did you eat today when you were hungry

Why did you address the immediate hunger?

Why didn’t you use the money to invest for future hunger?


Why don’t think others should not eat, but should cheer a future investment?

Afonja007:
dangote built largest refinery in the world is there any change in your life? How much more battery making materials

Is it ghost or Dangote children that are working in that refinery?

Helinuse:
You are still all over the place.

Why did you eat today when you were hungry

Why did you address the immediate hunger?

Why didn’t you use the money to invest for future hunger?


Why don’t think others should not eat, but should cheer a future investment?

You argue that the factory is not what the people of Nassarawa state need to focus on, but 'immediate hunger". which I said is subsistence thinking. It is not the role of government to give people food but to create an enabling environment for people to fend for themselves by working in factories, businesses, and other forms of value-adding employment.

If hunger is your only guide rail, then Oga go and eat and stop the dumb, hunger driven argument about why I eat.

Does that mean that the people that invest in industry and the future do not eat? Eating as you understand it is not the primary purpose of life.

I am even struggling to understand how a rational human being will argue that an industry should not be built but focus should be on 'immediate hunger". The first time I am hearing about such a myopic concept.

It is the role of government to provide infrastructure and invest in ventures that enable people to prosper, NOT to directly focus on immediate hunger as if people are animals who exist only to eat.

I don't even have immediate hunger, sir. And individuals are different from governments in role and function. Mr. Immediate Hunger.


And who even told you that because a government builds a company, people will not eat? In fact, the company will potentially create employment that will enable people to feed themselves and dependents.

TrainPark:
You argue that the factory is not what the people of Nassarawa state need to focus on, but 'immediate hunger". which I said is subsistence thinking. It is not the role of government to give people food but to create an enabling environment for people to fend for themselves by working in factories, businesses, and other forms of value-adding employment.

If hunger is your only guide rail, then Oga go and eat and stop the dumb, hunger driven argument about why I eat.

Does that mean that the people that invest in industry and the future do not eat? Eating as you understand it is not the primary purpose of life.

I am even struggling to understand how a rational human being will argue that an industry should not be built but focus should be on 'immediate hunger". The first time I am hearing about such a myopic concept.

It is the role of government to provide infrastructure and invest in ventures that enable people to prosper, NOT to directly focus on immediate hunger as if people are animals who exist only to eat.

I don't even have immediate hunger, sir. And individuals are different from governments in role and function. Mr. Immediate Hunger.


And who even told you that because a government builds a company, people will not eat? In fact, the company will potentially create employment that will enable people to feed themselves and dependents.

I will bring myself low to your level just to help your knowledge:

******* (1)
“ Does that mean that the people that invest in industry and the future do not eat?”
Do you think those who invest in industry are hungry people? They have addressed their hunger first, and then the surplus is what they use to invest. I thought that was even the definition of investment sef? 🤨


******* (2)
“…NOT to directly focus on immediate hunger as if people are animals who exist only to eat.”
No sir, you are wrong. There have NEVER been a time where the role of any government was to INVEST IN VENTURES. I don’t know what is wrong with Africans. They look at the west, hope to copy from them, then turn and do the very exact opposite they observe, and hope to see the same result. No government is meant to “invest” in ANYTHING other than the people DIRECTLY. No serious government in the world, ever uses its money to build factories, etc. except if those things were meant for the direct consumption of the people. Yes, humans were just meant to eat, live and reproduce. That is the essence of life. The systems of man made you pursue other things, and see the core things as less important.

And the funny thing is that, you think you are smart, by talking about “investment is better than hunger.” 😅😅😅

TrainPark:
Where is the anger here?
You are still stuck on immediate hunger despite my clarification ooo. Chai

Solving "immediate hunger" does not end hunger, sir. It is subsistence thinking and drives people into impulsive, hunger-driven decisions with longterm onsequences.

Sorry if I hit a nerve. My intention was to simply point our that a well thought out industry will address hunger better in the long run and in the immediate too

I sincerely thought that being hungry meant that the body was supposed to eat.

I never knew that there were other people who thought that hunger can be sustained for days just so that an investment can possibly yield for other time consumption.

I never knew that people fast, going without eating anything for days, just to yield an investment.

😅😅😅

I hope this will reduce the price in market

SEGLIZ:
is too early for this, go back to sleep and wake on the right side of the day.

Helinuse the original or fake I know of Helinues but this I don't. that aside, if this project was from your loanee tax lord it would be laudable.

what happens to the narratives of job creation, social development, industrialization and all that?

@yemre look at my comment you got me wrong, check the comment I quoted and see for yourself, you shouldn't have insulted me but your next response will determine my answers to you cause readily I spot flaws in response.

I'm sorry, I never meant to insult you. I think I approached it with the wrong words while trying to make a point. And I think I misinterpreted your comment. So, pls pardon my language. Thank you.

mrvitalis:
Every single person that supports APC even me when I used to lack basic understanding of economics particularly in a capitalist economy

They don’t know how job creation works
Don’t know the viability of projects
Don’t know the impact of loans
Don’t know devaluation
Don’t know reference point when gdp is measured


They just want legacy projects , is it viable they don’t care
How is the funding done they don’t care

I call it the “awolowo syndrome “ or “cocoa house effect “
Awolowo was the first to do it
Cocoa house is the poster child


Beautiful fancy and feel good project to be proud of but has absolutely no viability

This is 2026 you and you are building a lithium plant without any demand for lithium locally first ?

Is the plant lithium competitive ? Can you be profitable if you sale at the global price ?

If it fails now we would say we lack maintenance culture

But I hope and wish this is not a government project sha

You don't even have the facts but you present yourself as all knowing. The private entity that invested this much are empty and love to waste their money eeh?

Helinuse:
Governments build economies first by investing in the people and not building industries.

No government ever build economies by setting up industries. They make sure the people are invested in, so that when the PRIVATE SECTOR builds the industry, there would be people with the capacity to earn within.

Where did you guys school for God’s sake?

Which country have their government focused on running the private sector and till find effectiveness in running the public systems?

You're arguing against a position that wasn't made
I did not say the government should permanently run the private sector. The point is that infrastructure and strategic state investment are part of economic development too. Roads, power, ports, rail, education, healthcare, and in some cases even state-backed industries have all played major roles in the industrialization of successful economies.

The idea that "no government ever built an economy by setting up industries" is historically inaccurate. Governments in countries like Japan, South Korea, Singapore, and even China actively shaped and supported industrial development alongside private enterprise.

It's not a choice between investing in people or investing in industry. Strong economies do both. An educated workforce without jobs is underemployment. Industries without skilled workers also fail.

So maybe skip the "Where did you guys school?" line and engage with the actual argument instead.

anonimi:
Is this a lame excuse for balablu bulaba master strategist’s failure to deliver the jobs he promised

Why should government not employ teachers and other workers to make education free for all children and water available to all households, among other public services and utilities to be provided from our commonwealth?

You're conflating two different responsibilities. Government should absolutely provide public services like education, healthcare, and water. That doesn't mean it should be the primary employer or run the entire economy. Creating conditions for businesses to generate sustainable jobs is also a core government responsibility.

Burshh:
You spoke, just like i would love to. Keep being wise and sound.

Thanks. I just prefer sticking to the evidence and keeping the discussion grounded.

Afonja007:
dangote built largest refinery in the world is there any change in your life? How much more battery making materials

So na ghost dey work for the refinery,lolzzzz , some of you don go

Vifx:
You're arguing against a position that wasn't made
I did not say the government should permanently run the private sector. The point is that infrastructure and strategic state investment are part of economic development too. Roads, power, ports, rail, education, healthcare, and in some cases even state-backed industries have all played major roles in the industrialization of successful economies.

The idea that "no government ever built an economy by setting up industries" is historically inaccurate. Governments in countries like Japan, South Korea, Singapore, and even China actively shaped and supported industrial development alongside private enterprise.

It's not a choice between investing in people or investing in industry. Strong economies do both. An educated workforce without jobs is underemployment. Industries without skilled workers also fail.

So maybe skip the "Where did you guys school?" line and engage with the actual argument instead.

"Governments in countries like Japan, South Korea, Singapore, and even China actively shaped and supported industrial development alongside private enterprise"


Be humble, man.
You were wrong.
I talked directly about food, and you countered it by saying the government was not supposed to focus on food, but on building industries.
Now you are on the path of "support industries."

Did you notice that you had to go straight to East Asia to mention countries? In fact, none of those mostly historically communist nations had their government investing in industry except when they were preparing for war.

The Chinese government builds industry because, in its system of governance, they OWN ALL THE SYSTEMS OF PRODUCTION. There is nothing like a private system there. There is only a pseudo-private enterprise, but the government is still running the show. That is why no one takes China seriously.

Again, I say, there is the core duty of government. Security, food, health, and housing are part of it. Enterprise is never a part of it.

Helinuse:
"Governments in countries like Japan, South Korea, Singapore, and even China actively shaped and supported industrial development alongside private enterprise"


Be humble, man.
You were wrong.
I talked directly about food, and you countered it by saying the government was not supposed to focus on food, but on building industries.
Now you are on the path of "support industries."

Did you notice that you had to go straight to East Asia to mention countries? In fact, none of those mostly historically communist nations had their government investing in industry except when they were preparing for war.

The Chinese government builds industry because, in its system of governance, they OWN ALL THE SYSTEMS OF PRODUCTION. There is nothing like a private system there. There is only a pseudo-private enterprise, but the government is still running the show. That is why no one takes China seriously.

Again, I say, there is the core duty of government. Security, food, health, and housing are part of it. Enterprise is never a part of it.

Abeg lets not keeping going on about who is moving the goalposts. you are

I never argued that governments should replace private enterprise. The point was that many successful economies didn't leave industrial development entirely to the market. They used industrial policy through financing, subsidies, tariffs, infrastructure, education, and strategic planning to help private firms grow.

PS, China certainly has a strong state presence, but it's inaccurate to say there's "nothing like a private system." Private companies account for a large share of China's employment, innovation, and exports, even under significant state oversight.

As for "the core duty of government," that's a political philosophy, not an objective fact. Different countries define the role of government differently. History shows that governments can provide security, health, education, and infrastructure while also supporting industrial development. Those roles aren't mutually exclusive.

Fearyourcreator:
So na ghost dey work for the refinery,lolzzzz , some of you don go

I no dey talk to olaniyi like you biko

blamingthedevil:
This newly constructed 6,000MT/Day Lithium Processing Plant In Nasarawa State is a game changer.

Next is for lithium battery manufacturing companies to set up factories in the country as well.

source

That's highly impressive.

k2money:
No transparent person in politics, to me I rather still with Tinubu that is transforming everything now than hop for one fake guy that doesn't have a good record as a governor. That project will bring employment which means thousands of people life will get better.

Stick with who?? Hahahaha Nigerians kinda love this chains. It’s so pathetic though. I hope you see all your Tinubu and his gangs have been doing online everyday? I reject to live with people who so comfortable in suffering and praising their slave masters. I was one of those who wanted Tinubu to come in but I’m full of regrets today

Afonja007:
I no dey talk to olaniyi like you biko

Nawa ooo

zinowealth:
Stick with who?? Hahahaha Nigerians kinda love this chains. It’s so pathetic though. I hope you see all your Tinubu and his gangs have been doing online everyday? I reject to live with people who so comfortable in suffering and praising their slave masters. I was one of those who wanted Tinubu to come in but I’m full of regrets today

Not everybody is suffering speak for yourself. Tinubu or no Tinubu if you don't work you won't eat.