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Re: Akwa-Ibom Section Of The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Road by Mbanda(m): 7:24am On Jul 04
CharlesCNG:
So because Nigeria has insecurity, we should stop building roads? Stop ports? Stop rail? Stop power projects? Stop schools? Stop hospitals? Stop housing? Stop everything until insecurity disappears completely?

That is not policy. That is opposition claptrap wearing a safety helmet.

A serious government must fight insecurity and still build infrastructure. The two are not enemies.

In fact, roads can even help security: faster troop movement, quicker emergency response, better access to remote communities, improved trade, more jobs, and less isolation for criminal gangs to exploit.

The logic is like saying a man with malaria should stop eating, stop bathing, stop going to work, stop paying school fees and stop repairing his leaking roof until the malaria disappears.

No sensible person lives like that.

You treat the malaria while life continues.

Nigeria must address insecurity aggressively, yes. But development cannot enter coma because criminals exist.

A country is not governed by pressing pause on everything until one problem is solved.
What I mean is that, nobody will ply a bandit infested road. Do you know that wealthy and average Nigerians now prefer flight than travelling by road. I've heard so many Nigerians saying that, flight money is cheaper and better than paying ransom money to bandits.

Judging by this, of what use is our roads?
Re: Akwa-Ibom Section Of The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Road by lawjjj: 7:59am On Jul 04
Kukutente23:
You mean you're a beneficiary of everything written in that poster
no just one CEMONC cleared my hospital bills over 800k
Re: Akwa-Ibom Section Of The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Road by Kukutente23: 8:12am On Jul 04
lawjjj:
no just one CEMONC cleared my hospital bills over 800k
There's no CEMONC there
Re: Akwa-Ibom Section Of The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Road by lawjjj: 8:14am On Jul 04
Kukutente23:
There's no CEMONC there
they didn't call it CEMONC there, maternal and neonatal is CEMONC
Re: Akwa-Ibom Section Of The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Road by Kukutente23: 8:25am On Jul 04
lawjjj:
they didn't call it CEMONC there, maternal and neonatal is CEMONC
I don't get
So how do you know it's CEMONC that's being referred to?
Re: Akwa-Ibom Section Of The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Road by Counterigbolies: 2:54pm On Jul 04
Mbanda:
The bolded is nonsense to compare with "where is their cow"?This statement was made by tinibu during his condolences visit to the family of pa Fasorati.

That means tinibu's romance with this people did not start today. No wonder he always give them baptismal name of "repentant" whenever they are captured by the army. Tinibu never kpai or prosecute these terrorists whenever they are captured by the army instead of kpaing them (which is the best way), he would always look for a way of pushing them back into the society and, that is why insecurity is at it's peak in Nigeria today.
I ask u again

Where are d cows for the many ibos that have been caught in India?

Where are d cows for those drug criminals caught in Bangladesh, China n co?

Where are d cows when Evans was caught?

Where are d cows when nnamdi kanu boys were eating human flesh?

The reality u people will never want to agree with is what is happening today in Nigeria, no b only Fulani b criminal.

Every tribe and region have their own criminal even abroad so y must we pin on crime on Fulani?

Na only Fulani dey commit crime?
Re: Akwa-Ibom Section Of The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Road by ottersberger(m): 3:08pm On Jul 04
ryloy:
30 Major Milestones In The Health Sector Achieved By President Bola Tinubu
Answer me this straight. As governor, Peter Obi built the Odumegwu Ojukwu University Teaching Hospital (COOUTH) in Amaku, Awka. It is the fastest-built teaching hospital in Nigeria. Now, can you name one complete hospital that Tinubu has built in his three-plus years as president?.

Re: Akwa-Ibom Section Of The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Road by zelnababa(m): 5:19pm On Jul 04
Mbanda:
Obi can never romance bandits the way tinibu does. Obi can never send captured terrorists back to the society in the name of "repentant".
lolz Obi that supported MNK and said He will dialoge with bandits.
Re: Akwa-Ibom Section Of The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Road by Mbanda(m): 7:14pm On Jul 04
zelnababa:
lolz Obi that supported MNK and said He will dialoge with bandits.
Is MNK a terrorist?
Re: Akwa-Ibom Section Of The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Road by AlphaTaikun: 2:12am On Jul 05
Vixlot:
Akwa-Ibom Section of the Lagos-Calabar Coastal Road.
Re: Akwa-Ibom Section Of The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Road by AlphaTaikun: 2:17am On Jul 05
Lithiumite:
Do you know the wonderful prospects of this ingenious project by tinubu.......you will be able to do Lagos to PH in 4 hrs,to and fro same day......the SS will get more closer to lagos and a lot of socio economic development will take place in that region........you can actually plan a weekend getaway from lagos to akwa-cross and return Sunday evening, imagine what that will do to the tourism potential of those 2 states......you can actually live in ondo state and be working in lagos......development will start spreading out easing the congestion lacuna lagos is already suffering from.

Ignore any negativity on that project they are only Bourne out of ethnic and political sentiments and shortsighted reactionaries........there were many of them in 1976 when the 3mb was being conceptualised in lagos but look at the immense benefit of that bridge to the economy of lagos and Nigeria at large,imagine lagos without that bridge,where would we have even found the money to build it now.
Saved.
Re: Akwa-Ibom Section Of The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Road by CharlesCNG: 7:11am On Jul 05
ottersberger:
Answer me this straight. As governor, Peter Obi built the Odumegwu Ojukwu University Teaching Hospital (COOUTH) in Amaku, Awka. It is the fastest-built teaching hospital in Nigeria. Now, can you name one complete hospital that Tinubu has built in his three-plus years as president?.
Yes, Obi’s administration played a major role in developing COOUTH, Amaku, Awka, and Obi has claimed it was completed within two years to save medical accreditation.

But let us not turn that into mythology. The claim that it is Nigeria’s “fastest-built teaching hospital” appears to be Obi’s claim; I have not seen any independent national ranking confirming it. Given obi's inclination for exageration i will take that for a pinch of salt.

So yes, credit Obi for COOUTH — but don’t turn campaign testimony into scripture.

Now to Tinubu.

The question “name one complete hospital Tinubu has built” is deliberately narrow. A federal government does not measure health-sector performance only by building one brand-new hospital from bare land.

Sometimes the wiser investment is to upgrade existing federal medical centres, equip teaching hospitals, expand primary healthcare, deploy ambulances, build laboratories, cancer centres, emergency centres and specialist units.

After all, a hospital is not just a painted building. Without equipment, specialists, drugs, laboratories, theatres, oxygen, ambulances, power, health insurance and referral systems, it is just a consulting clinic wearing agbada.

So let us list Tinubu’s health-sector record.

Under Tinubu, many new and upgraded health infrastructure across the six geopolitical zones, including the Bola Tinubu Specialist Complex at Federal Medical Centre, Jabi, Abuja, with consulting rooms, theatre suites, ENT and ophthalmology departments, laboratory, pharmacy, VIP wards and general wards has been commisioned.

The same report listed the deployment of 145 tricycle ambulances, six boat ambulances, 79 emergency ambulances for federal tertiary hospitals, and CNG-powered ambulances for all 73 federal tertiary health facilities. That is healthcare access, especially for rural, riverine and hard-to-reach communities.

Tinubu also commissioned or upgraded several specialist projects: Polio Emergency Operations Centres in Kano, Katsina and Sokoto; Gadon Kaya Primary Health Centre in Kano; Aboh Primary Health Centre in Delta; a two-storey laboratory complex at University of Uyo Teaching Hospital; an administrative complex at UNTH Enugu; a pharmacy quality-control laboratory at ABUTH Zaria; a 50-bed Mental Health and Drug Rehabilitation Centre at University of Maiduguri Teaching Hospital; and the Lagos Immunisation Supply Chain Hub.

The Federal Ministry of Health also said nearly 3,000 primary health centres had been revitalised under the IMPACT programme, with 27 comprehensive emergency obstetric and newborn care sites established, and over 1,602 Level 1 and 1,360 Level 2 health facilities revitalised across the six geopolitical zones.

Beyond buildings, Tinubu’s health reforms include health insurance expansion. The Ministry reported that enrolment rose from about 16 million to over 22 million Nigerians within three years, while approving a fresh ₦32.8 billion BHCPF disbursement to states.

The government also launched maternal and newborn interventions. The Federal Ministry of Health reported a 17% reduction in maternal deaths and 12% reduction in newborn deaths across 172 high-burden LGAs under ongoing health-sector reforms.

Cancer care has also been expanded. The Federal Government commissioned oncology centres in Katsina, Enugu and Edo, with VON reporting that the programme was meant to double Nigeria’s cancer treatment capacity and expand diagnostic screening.

Tinubu also signed an executive order to increase local production of healthcare products by removing tariffs, excise duties and VAT on specified pharmaceutical machinery, equipment and raw materials. The objective is to reduce production costs and strengthen local production of medicines, diagnostics and medical devices.

So the answer is simple: if your only definition of health achievement is “show me one hospital building,” then you are reducing healthcare to block, cement and ribbon-cutting.
Re: Akwa-Ibom Section Of The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Road by CharlesCNG: 7:20am On Jul 05
Mbanda:
What I mean is that, nobody will ply a bandit infested road. Do you know that wealthy and average Nigerians now prefer flight than travelling by road. I've heard so many Nigerians saying that, flight money is cheaper and better than paying ransom money to bandits.

Judging by this, of what use is our roads?
This argument sounds emotional, but it is not logical.

Nobody is denying insecurity. Nobody is saying banditry should be tolerated. Nobody is saying government should build roads and ignore security.

The point is simple: you do not stop national development because one sector has a serious problem. You solve the problem while still building the country.

By your logic, because some roads are unsafe, Nigeria should stop building roads. That makes no sense.

Do people still travel by road every day? Yes.

Do goods still move by road? Yes.

Do farmers still need roads to move produce? Yes.

Do traders still need roads to move stock? Yes.

Do communities still need roads to access hospitals, schools and markets? Yes.

Do security agencies themselves not need roads to respond faster? Yes.

So how can roads become useless because bandits exist on some routes?

That is like saying because thieves break into houses, nobody should build houses again.


The sensible thing is not to abandon roads. The sensible thing is to build roads[b] and[/b] secure roads.

A bad road helps criminals. A good road helps security patrols, military movement, emergency response, commerce and ordinary citizens. Insecurity is not an argument against infrastructure; it is an argument for stronger security around infrastructure.

Even the people flying today still depend on roads before and after the airport. Their food, fuel, luggage, building materials, medicines and business supplies still move by road.

So let us stop this “road without security is useless” slogan. It is clever only until you think about it for two minutes.

Roads are not useless because insecurity exists.

Rather, insecurity must be defeated so that roads can serve their full purpose.
Re: Akwa-Ibom Section Of The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Road by kunle4toyeyaho: 7:39am On Jul 05
Mbanda:
Road without security is nonsense.
If there is no security,can you sit down in your house and writing this ? Is there anything wrong in addressing in security and providing infrastructure at this time. Why are you always bitter when there is good news about Tinubu and his government?
Re: Akwa-Ibom Section Of The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Road by kunle4toyeyaho: 7:47am On Jul 05
ottersberger:
Answer me this straight. As governor, Peter Obi built the Odumegwu Ojukwu University Teaching Hospital (COOUTH) in Amaku, Awka. It is the fastest-built teaching hospital in Nigeria. Now, can you name one complete hospital that Tinubu has built in his three-plus years as president?.
Tinubu and Obi are not on same pedestal. How can you continue comparing someone who could not solve erosion problem for 8 years with Tinubu that tamed Atlantic Ocean surge and prevented it from consuming Victoria Island? Igando road network,Oregun road, Itire-Lawanson- Yaba road constructed by Tinubu dwarfs your candidate's achievement. As for me, any of Umahi,Soludo is my preferred Igbo future presidents
Re: Akwa-Ibom Section Of The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Road by lawjjj: 11:40am On Jul 05
Kukutente23:
I don't get
So how do you know it's CEMONC that's being referred to?
I am not a fan of Tinibu I won't even vote him in the coming elections stop thinking I am supporting anything politics. If you want details visit health ministry in your state, or teaching hospitals or any government tertiary health facilities. Nigerian youths don't know how to separate governance from politics. I built my house during buhari government, I had benefited one thing from this government I will benefit more before they leave. When you understand your rights within government you can force them to do what is right! Regardless of who is occupying the office.
Re: Akwa-Ibom Section Of The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Road by ottersberger(m): 1:32pm On Jul 05
CharlesCNG:
Yes, Obi’s administration played a major role in developing COOUTH, Amaku, Awka, and Obi has claimed it was completed within two years to save medical accreditation.

But let us not turn that into mythology. The claim that it is Nigeria’s “fastest-built teaching hospital” appears to be Obi’s claim; I have not seen any independent national ranking confirming it. Given obi's inclination for exageration i will take that for a pinch of salt.

So yes, credit Obi for COOUTH — but don’t turn campaign testimony into scripture.

Now to Tinubu.

The question “name one complete hospital Tinubu has built” is deliberately narrow. A federal government does not measure health-sector performance only by building one brand-new hospital from bare land.

Sometimes the wiser investment is to upgrade existing federal medical centres, equip teaching hospitals, expand primary healthcare, deploy ambulances, build laboratories, cancer centres, emergency centres and specialist units.

After all, a hospital is not just a painted building. Without equipment, specialists, drugs, laboratories, theatres, oxygen, ambulances, power, health insurance and referral systems, it is just a consulting clinic wearing agbada.

So let us list Tinubu’s health-sector record.

Under Tinubu, many new and upgraded health infrastructure across the six geopolitical zones, including the Bola Tinubu Specialist Complex at Federal Medical Centre, Jabi, Abuja, with consulting rooms, theatre suites, ENT and ophthalmology departments, laboratory, pharmacy, VIP wards and general wards has been commisioned.

The same report listed the deployment of 145 tricycle ambulances, six boat ambulances, 79 emergency ambulances for federal tertiary hospitals, and CNG-powered ambulances for all 73 federal tertiary health facilities. That is healthcare access, especially for rural, riverine and hard-to-reach communities.

Tinubu also commissioned or upgraded several specialist projects: Polio Emergency Operations Centres in Kano, Katsina and Sokoto; Gadon Kaya Primary Health Centre in Kano; Aboh Primary Health Centre in Delta; a two-storey laboratory complex at University of Uyo Teaching Hospital; an administrative complex at UNTH Enugu; a pharmacy quality-control laboratory at ABUTH Zaria; a 50-bed Mental Health and Drug Rehabilitation Centre at University of Maiduguri Teaching Hospital; and the Lagos Immunisation Supply Chain Hub.

The Federal Ministry of Health also said nearly 3,000 primary health centres had been revitalised under the IMPACT programme, with 27 comprehensive emergency obstetric and newborn care sites established, and over 1,602 Level 1 and 1,360 Level 2 health facilities revitalised across the six geopolitical zones.

Beyond buildings, Tinubu’s health reforms include health insurance expansion. The Ministry reported that enrolment rose from about 16 million to over 22 million Nigerians within three years, while approving a fresh ₦32.8 billion BHCPF disbursement to states.

The government also launched maternal and newborn interventions. The Federal Ministry of Health reported a 17% reduction in maternal deaths and 12% reduction in newborn deaths across 172 high-burden LGAs under ongoing health-sector reforms.

Cancer care has also been expanded. The Federal Government commissioned oncology centres in Katsina, Enugu and Edo, with VON reporting that the programme was meant to double Nigeria’s cancer treatment capacity and expand diagnostic screening.

Tinubu also signed an executive order to increase local production of healthcare products by removing tariffs, excise duties and VAT on specified pharmaceutical machinery, equipment and raw materials. The objective is to reduce production costs and strengthen local production of medicines, diagnostics and medical devices.

So the answer is simple: if your only definition of health achievement is “show me one hospital building,” then you are reducing healthcare to block, cement and ribbon-cutting.
I really wish that I have the liberty of time to engage Tinubu supporters and their lies. I just don't at the moment.
Re: Akwa-Ibom Section Of The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Road by ottersberger(m): 1:36pm On Jul 05
kunle4toyeyaho:
Tinubu and Obi are not on same pedestal. How can you continue comparing someone who could not solve erosion problem for 8 years with Tinubu that tamed Atlantic Ocean surge and prevented it from consuming Victoria Island? Igando road network,Oregun road, Itire-Lawanson- Yaba road constructed by Tinubu dwarfs your candidate's achievement. As for me, any of Umahi,Soludo is my preferred Igbo future presidents
The whole of Lagos turned into a sea recently. That's your master builders master plan. Save for historically isolated erosion along designated corridors, Anambra state is home and dry. A Peter Obi legacy many years after.
Re: Akwa-Ibom Section Of The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Road by kafeii123: 1:54pm On Jul 05
Ttipsy:
so all these nonsense you are saying wasn’t considered when they are demolishing properties in Lagos to site the road on the coastalhuh
Now the one here in A/ibom is sited in the forest
The one in lagos is coming at a time when there is already so much development so they are trying their best to not go into peoples properties too much beacuse of how much damages they have to pay. In areas like akwa ibom where the development hasnt gotten soo robust. Taking it as further inland as possible makes it easier to carve out the beachfront for FG govt development purposes and as well protects the utility of the road by ensuring it doesnt go under water soon.

Lagos may be on higher elevation above sea level than akwa ibom..so if u need 20 m inwards to stay above water...you will need more than that on lower land
Re: Akwa-Ibom Section Of The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Road by kafeii123: 2:08pm On Jul 05
Ttipsy:
so all these nonsense you are saying wasn’t considered when they are demolishing properties in Lagos to site the road on the coastalhuh
Now the one here in A/ibom is sited in the forest
The one in lagos is coming at a time when there is already so much development so they are trying their best to not go into peoples properties too much beacuse of how much damages they have to pay. In areas like akwa ibom where the development hasnt gotten soo robust. Taking it as further inland as possible makes it easier to carve out the beachfront for FG govt development purposes and as well protects the utility of the road by ensuring it doesnt go under water soon.

Lagos may be on higher elevation above sea level than akwa ibom..so if u need 20 m inwards to stay above water...you will need more than that on lower land.
Re: Akwa-Ibom Section Of The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Road by CharlesCNG: 2:20pm On Jul 05
ottersberger:
I really wish that I have the liberty of time to engage Tinubu supporters and their lies. I just don't at the moment.
😂 Ah yes, the famous Obidient Time-Deficiency Doctrine.

You had enough time to ask, " To assert obi built COOUTH, Amaku, Awka in record time and ask someone to mention one similar thing Tinubu has done in the health sector."

Then we did did exactly that—with specific projects, programmes and policies—you suddenly ran out of time.

My good friend, you don't lack time. You lack a rebuttal.

The oldest escape route in debate is to pretend you are too busy immediately after your question has been answered.

If those are "lies," this should be the easiest debate in the world for you. Pick just one item from the list and prove it false.

Was the Specialist Complex at FMC Jabi not commissioned?

Were the oncology centres not commissioned?

Were thousands of primary health centres not revitalised?

Did health insurance enrolment not increase?

Were the ambulances not deployed?

Or was the executive order on local pharmaceutical production imaginary?

You asked for one achievement. You got several. Instead of refuting even one, you announced your departure.

That is classic Obidient debate: ask a question with great confidence, receive an evidence-based answer, then suddenly discover that you "don't have the liberty of time."

My friend, if you had time to make the allegation, you should have time to examine the evidence. Otherwise, don't mistake an exit for a victory.
Re: Akwa-Ibom Section Of The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Road by Kukutente23: 3:21pm On Jul 05
lawjjj:
I am not a fan of Tinibu I won't even vote him in the coming elections stop thinking I am supporting anything politics. If you want details visit health ministry in your state, or teaching hospitals or any government tertiary health facilities. Nigerian youths don't know how to separate governance from politics. I built my house during buhari government, I had benefited one thing from this government I will benefit more before they leave. When you understand your rights within government you can force them to do what is right! Regardless of who is occupying the office.
I never said you're a fan though
I was only asking simple questions
Re: Akwa-Ibom Section Of The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Road by aswani(m): 9:31pm On Jul 05
Vixlot:
Akwa-Ibom Section of the Lagos-Calabar Coastal Road.
Wow this looks good, what a super capital project by President Tinubu. Opening up South South in one fell swoop and scooping their votes as a result.
Re: Akwa-Ibom Section Of The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Road by ottersberger(m): 10:01pm On Jul 05
CharlesCNG:
😂 Ah yes, the famous Obidient Time-Deficiency Doctrine.

You had enough time to ask, " To assert obi built COOUTH, Amaku, Awka in record time and ask someone to mention one similar thing Tinubu has done in the health sector."

Then we did did exactly that—with specific projects, programmes and policies—you suddenly ran out of time.

My good friend, you don't lack time. You lack a rebuttal.

The oldest escape route in debate is to pretend you are too busy immediately after your question has been answered.

If those are "lies," this should be the easiest debate in the world for you. Pick just one item from the list and prove it false.

Was the Specialist Complex at FMC Jabi not commissioned?

Were the oncology centres not commissioned?

Were thousands of primary health centres not revitalised?

Did health insurance enrolment not increase?

Were the ambulances not deployed?

Or was the executive order on local pharmaceutical production imaginary?

You asked for one achievement. You got several. Instead of refuting even one, you announced your departure.

That is classic Obidient debate: ask a question with great confidence, receive an evidence-based answer, then suddenly discover that you "don't have the liberty of time."

My friend, if you had time to make the allegation, you should have time to examine the evidence. Otherwise, don't mistake an exit for a victory.
I really wished I had the time to engage you.
Spoiler alert: I am very capable.
Re: Akwa-Ibom Section Of The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Road by zelnababa(m): 8:54am On Jul 06
Mbanda:
Is MNK a terrorist?
yes
Re: Akwa-Ibom Section Of The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Road by Mbanda(m): 11:30am On Jul 06
zelnababa:
yes
kanu is a terrorist only, in the feeble minds of your tribe.
Kanu is a honourable man more than your gbajabiamila.
Re: Akwa-Ibom Section Of The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Road by zelnababa(m): 3:21pm On Jul 06
Mbanda:
kanu is a terrorist only, in the feeble minds of your tribe.
Kanu is a honourable man more than your gbajabiamila.
kanu kill so many ppl
Re: Akwa-Ibom Section Of The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Road by Mbanda(m): 6:12pm On Jul 06
zelnababa:
kanu kill so many ppl
If that is true why didn't your your tribes president, prosecutor and judge charge him with murder?
Re: Akwa-Ibom Section Of The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Road by zelnababa(m): 1:16pm On Jul 07
Mbanda:
If that is true why didn't your your tribes president, prosecutor and judge charge him with murder?
thats why He was in sokoto
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