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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 4:41pm On Jul 11*

Unfortunately you guys are operating under the assumption that these guys are different from Trump. And that tells me how “innocent” you are on issues of sexual assault.

As a woman who was raised in Nigeria where men have less consequences for overt perversion, I can tell you sincerely that a lot of men are like Trump, Including these ones on here supporting him. Most of your sisters and female friends can confide in you that they started experiencing cat-calling from ages 10 and above by full grown men. In public. With no fear of repercussions.

It’s the truth. And we don’t talk about it for fear of discomforting the men we love who we view differently from men like him. But there are way too many men who are like Trump. So, it shouldn’t astonish you guys that this is happening. It’s no surprise to me they’ll go to hell and back in defense of him.

IjeBos:
Just reading this again, shows how far the US has fallen morally.
We elected this man President.

bayelsaowei:
So ask yourself.. if Trump has been wrongly accused, why hasn’t any court exonerated him? Even hi DOJ can’t save him. Maybe Trump needs to hire you to fight the case (we know you didn’t read law.

All the courts have insisted Trump is culpable and should pay fine, but you a black Nigerian, who has neither seen Trump face to face nor have a personal relationship with him insists the woman is lying and that Trump is innocent.

You see yourself?

How more pathetic can your situation be?

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 6:11pm On Jul 11

benalvino3:
My God.

It was a civil case, and not based on evidence. Decisions were made based on "might or might not," in other words, probabilistically.

How is it that your hatred for someone and bias shields you from getting simple concepts like this? Her story is from a TV show (strikingly similar).

No evidence was presented; the courts did not say Trump did it. they said he probably did it, so they are not sure.

If you said you can't resist tall girls, and then a tall girl said you groped her, is it okay for the world to believe her at her word? It might be true, it might be false. You see how you think? What if there are people who hates you and are out for you?

It is okay for you to believe what you want. For me, I use common sense, and I understand there is a pattern of rape accusations against Republicans. No one is accusing Biden of anything despite allegations against him. Instead, the person who made the accusation was attacked by the media and others to the point she had to flee to Russia.

You think you have common sense?

You think it is common sense to dispute a verdict which the appeals court and even the Supreme Court has upheld?

Is that how common sense works?

You think you are exhibiting common sense?

Adios with your “silly” common sense.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 6:53pm On Jul 11

cococandy:
Unfortunately you guys are operating under the assumption that these guys are different from Trump. And that tells me how “innocent” you are on issues of sexual assault.

As a woman who was raised in Nigeria where men have less consequences for overt perversion, I can tell you sincerely that a lot of men are like Trump, Including these ones on here supporting him. Most of your sisters and female friends can confide in you that they started experiencing cat-calling from ages 10 and above by full grown men. In public. With no fear of repercussions.

It’s the truth. And we don’t talk about it for fear of discomforting the men we love who we view differently from men like him. But there are way too many men who are like Trump. So, it shouldn’t astonish you guys that this is happening. It’s no surprise to me they’ll go to hell and back in defense of him.

100% with you.
I think I have heard tales of sexual assault (rape) and violence from at least 70% of my female friends/cousins in Nigeria.
The amount of stories I have heard actually surprised me when I thought about it one day a couple of years back.

When Raumdeuter tried to make a joke that I saw sexism/misogyny at the Lagos airport, it told me exactly who he was.

I'm pushing back on this because I'd like to draw a line at the casual sexism/misogyny and lack of repercussions for it I see in this forum from too many men.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 7:22pm On Jul 11

Thank you.

From the bottom of my heart

IjeBos:
100% with you.
I think I have heard tales of sexual assault (rape) and violence from at least 70% of my female friends/cousins in Nigeria.
The amount of stories I have heard actually surprised me when I thought about it one day a couple of years back.

When Raumdeuter tried to make a joke that I saw sexism/misogyny at the Lagos airport, it told me exactly who he was.

I'm pushing back on this because I'd like to draw a line at the casual sexism/misogyny and lack of repercussions for it I see in this forum from too many men.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 7:38pm On Jul 11

bayelsaowei:
You think you have common sense?

You think it is common sense to dispute a verdict which the appeals court and even the Supreme Court has upheld?

Is that how common sense works?

You think you are exhibiting common sense?

Adios with your “silly” common sense.

the verdict was upheld but that does not transform contested testimony into an indisputable historical fact or make skepticism irrational.

Your argument is simply an appeal to authority: “the courts said it, therefore nobody may question it.”

Christopher Ochoa and Richard Danziger: Ochoa falsely confessed and implicated Danziger in a Texas murder and rape. Years later, the actual perpetrator, Achim Marino, confessed and provided information matching the crime; both men were exonerated.

This is life for some People and it is not funny. Someone somewhere is hoping for somebody to confess so they will have their freedom for an offence or crime they did not do.

It is not everything the courts says is right. You know this because you like to go at the Supreme Court if they did something you don't like.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GracieX3(f): 8:47pm On Jul 11

Conservatives lie too much

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIqzp3aUYYw?si=HmVUByuSGpArt4MJ

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 9:15pm On Jul 11

benalvino3:
the verdict was upheld but that does not transform contested testimony into an indisputable historical fact or make skepticism irrational.

Your argument is simply an appeal to authority: “the courts said it, therefore nobody may question it.”

This is life for some People and it is not funny. Someone somewhere is hoping for somebody to confess so they will have their freedom for an offence or crime they did not do.

It is not everything the courts says is right. You know this because you like to go at the Supreme Court if they did something you don't like.

It is not everything all the (courts) says that is right, So like you and other sheeples I should take Trumps stance as fact? As against what several courts have upheld?

Really? Are you listening to yourself.. if this isn’t Trump worship then what is?

You’ve fully established yourself as a Trump worshipper.. your umbilical cord is fully tied to him.. no allegation, including those established in court is true against Trump (it’s all a witch hunt).

I pity you sha..

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 10:00pm On Jul 11

Holy Sh*t.
US Congressman Ro Khanna was detained in the West Bank by settlers and the IDF.
shocked

Israel is soo out of control.

Democratic Congressman Ro Khanna DETAINED by Israeli Settlers during West Bank visit pic.twitter.com/QwKj2aALDe
— Ryan Rozbiani (@RyanRozbiani) July 11, 2026

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 10:32pm On Jul 11*

bayelsaowei:
It is not everything all the (courts) says that is right, So like you and other sheeples I should take Trumps stance as fact? As against what several courts have upheld?

Really? Are you listening to yourself.. if this isn’t Trump worship then what is?

You’ve fully established yourself as a Trump worshipper.. your umbilical cord is fully tied to him.. no allegation, including those established in court is true against Trump (it’s all a witch hunt).

I pity you sha..

I never said you should take Trump's stance; I don't believe E. Jean Carroll either. I don't know why you have issues with my skepticism. Trust me, I would be the last person to believe any unfounded accusation against you from a woman or anyone, as long as there is no evidence to support their accusation.

I am not obligated to take the word of a woman, especially a woman I don't know, just because she made an accusation (as a woman, or because I should believe all women).
There are so many things wrong with that trial. The fact that she could not remember the exact year or date it happened robbed Trump of his alibi privileges.

If Trump was seen with a woman at that time doing shopping, a tabloid or news outlet would have picked it up.

I just don't think it happened. The court did not prove it beyond reasonable doubt.
This has nothing to do with worship. It has to do with women being used as a weapon to go after people.

There is nothing to pity here. It's common sense. If someone were to accuse you of rape twenty to thirty years after the fact, I would need solid proof beyond just their word.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 10:52pm On Jul 11

IjeBos:
100% with you.
I think I have heard tales of sexual assault (rape) and violence from at least 70% of my female friends/cousins in Nigeria.
The amount of stories I have heard actually surprised me when I thought about it one day a couple of years back.

When Ramdeuter tried to make a joke that I saw sexism/misogyny at the Lagos airport, it told me exactly who he was.

I'm pushing back on this because I'd like to draw a line at the casual sexism/misogyny and lack of repercussions for it I see in this forum from too many men.

Serial victim must victim. You are a victim everywhere

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 11:37pm On Jul 11*

benalvino3:
I never said you should take Trump's stance; I don't believe E. Jean Carroll either. I don't know why you have issues with my skepticism. Trust me, I would be the last person to believe any unfounded accusation against you from a woman or anyone, as long as there is no evidence to support their accusation.

I am not obligated to take the word of a woman, especially a woman I don't know, just because she made an accusation (as a woman, or because I should believe all women).
There are so many things wrong with that trial. The fact that she could not remember the exact year or date it happened robbed Trump of his alibi privileges.

If Trump was seen with a woman at that time doing shopping, a tabloid or news outlet would have picked it up.

I just don't think it happened. The court did not prove it beyond reasonable doubt.
This has nothing to do with worship. It has to do with women being used as a weapon to go after people.

There is nothing to pity here. It's common sense. If someone were to accuse you of rape twenty to thirty years after the fact, I would need solid proof beyond just their word.

You don’t know the woman, so you aren’t obliged to take her words for which even an appeal court upheld.. but you know Trump Abi? He is your close Pal shey?...he is your twin brother and you both live in the same space.

infact we all know Trump..Trump has never really hidden who he is from all eyes. and I know you know his antecedents with women, don’t you? And the fact that he is a serial liar and cheat.

Meanwhile the redacted Epstein files are fully loading to further expose who your god is..

You can run around in denial, but not for long.

I am here waiting to drag you till the end.. and I will remind you of how you stood behind a pdf and a sex offender.. no going back..

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 1:06am On Jul 12

bayelsaowei:
You don’t know the woman, so you aren’t obliged to take her words for which even an appeal court upheld.. but you know Trump Abi? He is your close Pal shey?...he is your twin brother and you both live in the same space.

infact we all know Trump..Trump has never really hidden who he is from all eyes. and I know you know his antecedents with women, don’t you? And the fact that he is a serial liar and cheat.

Meanwhile the redacted Epstein files are fully loading to further expose who your god is..

You can run around in denial, but not for long.

I am here waiting to drag you till the end.. and I will remind you of how you stood behind a pdf and a sex offender.. no going back..

Yes, I am more likely to believe my sister, daughter, and friends. I know them personally. I can deduce my beliefs from what I know about them.

We live in a world where footballers have had their careers destroyed by the mere utterance of a woman, and sometimes it's a lie.

Before the court decides, based on testimony alone, the company is forced, or sometimes willing to let go of the athlete. Most times, when they find that athlete to be innocent, they don't take him back.

This is also true in politics.

So I don't personally know Trump, but he has been attacked left and right since he decided to run as a Republican. Based on that pattern, I need something more than "she said, she said" before I'd say "I believe her"

3 women accused Brett Kavanaugh. Pete Hegseth was accused, etc.

Biden did not leak the Epstein files 😂 the level of kookooland in this one tires me.

The fact that you believe there is something in the Epstein file, Trump is in control of it, and he is going to release it to implicate himself rather than destroy it, is another level of kookooland.

It's why I keep asking you: didn't Biden's DOJ see what you saw in the file you are advertising is coming out? Why no whistleblower?

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:13am On Jul 12*

cococandy:
You want to agree that the shooting shouldn’t have happened but what?

Your unwavering support for the conservative moral decadence won’t let you?

Therefore you’re rambling a bunch of disjointed nonsense to achieve what? To justify ? Excuse?

If you can’t unequivocally say that what’s bad is bad, pls hush.

I'm discounting the claim the ICE agents just went upto the guy and shot him as it's being claimed.
.
It's wrong shots had to be fired. Regrettable that a death occured

Please don't expect me to agree with anything that comes from liberal especially if it's controversial and likely to score any political point. Liberals are proven liars abd propagandists.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:46am On Jul 12

From a woman who used to watch "The Apprentice" for years after that . She would have been smashing TV screens instead she enjoyed it .

, E. Jean Carroll did watch The Apprentice, but she explicitly avoided watching the parts where Donald Trump fired people.During her 2023 civil trial against Trump, his defense team brought up 2012 Facebook posts where Carroll called herself a "massive fan" of the reality series. On the witness stand, Carroll and her legal team clarified several details regarding her relationship with the show:
Initial Panic Attack: A clinical psychologist testifying on Carroll’s behalf stated that the very first time Carroll was shown a clip of The Apprentice during a TV show pitch meeting at a network, she suffered a severe panic attack. The trauma response temporarily took away her capacity to speak, forcing her friend to finish the pitch.
Witty Competition: Once she actually began watching the show, Carroll admitted she genuinely enjoyed the format, testifying, "I had never seen such a witty competition on television, and it was about something worthwhile, competing."
Skipping Trump's Scenes: Carroll made it clear that while she loved the contestants, she disliked Trump's segments. She testified, "I didn't watch that part" when it came to the boardroom scenes where Trump delivered his trademark firing lines.
Supporting Friends: Carroll also explained that part of her public praise for the show on social media was intentional promotion to "boost" two of her friends who were appearing as contestants

A sane judge would have thrown her to jail. The alleged incident caused her so much trauma she enjoyed watching his show.
E Jean Carroll couldn't delete her FB posts in time ,so she had to come up with that warped theory

Compare it to Ijebosb ardently following basilico podcasts .

IjeBos:
You still seem to struggle to understand what "the court" is and consistently struggle to read court documents.
In fact, you will have claimed to have read a ruling and yet argue the opposite of what the ruling says in plain language (ex. the Trump immunity ruling).

So, let me help you.
This is a court memorandum. It is an explanation of what the court (Judge) has decided.
E. JEAN CARROLL v. DONALD J. TRUMP (case name)
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.590045/gov.uscourts.nysd.590045.212.0_1.pdf

You can read it in its entirety. Given your history and your aptitude, you probably won't understand it or in your emotional ranting think it says the opposite again.

So, let me pull portions out for you. I've even highlighted it to make it easier for clearly uneducated people like yourself to understand.

You are still embarrassing yourself.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:51am On Jul 12

Funny I'd never thought of this

E Jean Carroll watching and being a fan of The Apprentice is like Ijebosb being a fan of basilico podcast

Though we've never met , neither know our real names😃😃😃

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 7:56am On Jul 12

This is shocking. R. I. P

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:18am On Jul 12

bayelsaowei:
You think you have common sense?

You think it is common sense to dispute a verdict which the appeals court and even the Supreme Court has upheld?

Is that how common sense works?

You think you are exhibiting common sense?

Adios with your “silly” common sense.

The supreme court didn't uphold. It declined to hear the case without giving any reason. The Supreme Court of the United States (SCOTUS) rejects approximately 7,000 to 8,000 cases each year..
Correct that misleading assertion of yours.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:19am On Jul 12

benalvino3:
This is shocking. R. I. P

Shocking. May his soul rest in peace.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 8:21am On Jul 12

Shocking news

RIP Lindsey Graham

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:23am On Jul 12*

NYT journalists sim ones by FBI for publishing a report about the New Air force One lacking anti missile defence systems while the president was in Europe.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/11/business/media/new-york-times-trump-subpoenas.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes

.NEW YORK TIMES – The Trump administration issued subpoenas on Friday to several journalists for The New York Times, after the news outlet reported this week on security concerns involving President Trump’s new Qatari-donated Air Force One.

The subpoenas — which seek to force the reporters to testify before a federal grand jury in Manhattan on Wednesday — were an extraordinary escalation in President Trump’s efforts to threaten and intimidate independent news organizations.

In some cases, the subpoenas were delivered by federal agents who showed up at reporters’ homes.

[…] “Our journalists report the facts and advance the American public’s right to know how their government is operating and their taxpayer dollars are being used,” Mr. McCraw wrote. “This brazen act should be seen as nothing more than an attempt to prevent the public from knowing what is happening in their country by intimidating journalists from doing their jobs.”

The subpoenas contain few specifics, asking only that the journalists testify “in regard to an alleged violation of federal criminal law.” They were issued by Jay Clayton, the U.S. attorney in Manhattan. Mr. Clayton, who leads one of the country’s most prominent law enforcement offices, was recently nominated by Mr. Trump to serve as director of national intelligence.

[…] The Times reported that the new Air Force One, a Qatari-donated Boeing 747-8, lacked some of the advanced security features of the older aircraft, including antimissile capabilities. Both articles cited sources who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive security issues.

Before the Wednesday article was published, a senior official at the Federal Bureau of Investigation contacted The Times to ask that the article be held, calling it an issue of national security, according to a person familiar with the conversation. The F.B.I. official spoke with a reporter and a senior editor in The Times’s Washington bureau; the official declined to explain the security issue when asked. (A spokesman for The Times, Charlie Stadtlander, confirmed the account.)

This is totally irresponsible journalism. The journalists should be forced to declare the source of the leaks.
The plane usually has a convoy of journalists and a lot of Uther people.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 10:14am On Jul 12*

What happens when men who will never have first hand experience of childbirth think they should be involved in making rules concerning women and their reproductive health. This is why everyone won’t common sense needs to be apprehensive of conservatives overreach into women’s rights and bodily autonomy.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 10:18am On Jul 12

cococandy:
What happens when men who will never have first hand experience of childbirth think they should be involved in making rules concerning women's and their reproductive health. This is why everyone won’t common sense needs to be apprehensive of conservatives overreach into women’s rights and bodily autonomy.

wtf is natural birth?

like who actually is advising this clown?

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GracieX3(f): 10:26am On Jul 12

raumdeuter:
Shocking news

RIP Lindsey Graham

Good news

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 10:35am On Jul 12

GloriousGbola:
wtf is natural birth?

like who actually is advising this clown?

Natural birth as in push until you die . Because women are simply commodities to them whose lives have no value outside of reproduction. 😒

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 10:52am On Jul 12

bayelsaowei:
You think you have common sense?

You think it is common sense to dispute a verdict which the appeals court and even the Supreme Court has upheld?

Is that how common sense works?

You think you are exhibiting common sense?

Adios with your “silly” common sense.

Actually, that is precisely how "sense" that is "common" works.

Sense that is common is what anyone can pick up off the streets with no effort whatsoever. And it tends to be banal at best, and as we now see, populist by the fact that most who claim to have it are actually brain dead.

Unfortunately, most think it is the same as the "superior sense" that is acquired by much effort and brain use and learning. It isn't.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by WriterrNg: 11:38am On Jul 12

GracieX3:
Good news

The best news so far.

May he rot in hell.

The Russians got him at last. He was in Kyiv a day ago and even met with Zelensky.

He was probably poked with a poisonous substance like polonium.

No one does poisoning better than the Russians.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by WriterrNg: 11:42am On Jul 12

And just like that... US senators are dropping like flies.

Mitch McConnell ❌
Lindsay Graham ❌

Who's next❓

Trump ⏳

Netanyahu ⌛

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:45am On Jul 12*

Erdogan is not a conservative.He is a Jihadist. His views are derived from Sharia.
The default rule in Sharia is that a woman's awrah (unclothedness ) must not be exposed to or touched by non-mahram men (men she can marry).

However, Islam prioritizes health, allowing exceptions under strict hierarchies of preference.According to guidelines from bodies like The Jordan Dar al-Ifta and other Islamic councils, a pregnant woman should seek medical care according to the following order of precedence
_:A Muslim female doctor
_A non-Muslim female doctor
_A Muslim male docto
_A non-Muslim male doctor

Sharia forbids elective CS if you didn't know.
Turkey would be a theocratic sharia state like Iran were it not for for Kamel Attartuk and their current desire to be part of the EU. They badly want the EU membership so that Islam can spread easily and take over Europe. Erdogan shares the views with this Palestinian.

Flashback:
A senior Palestinian Islamic leader openly declared their plan: They want to invade Europe and America, force the non-Muslim population to bow down to Islam. Just like they did to the Yazidis and Christians in Iraq and Syria, they want to invade the West, seize the… pic.twitter.com/orkPix76Iu
— Liza Rosen (@LizaRosen0000) June 26, 2026

cococandy:
What happens when men who will never have first hand experience of childbirth think they should be involved in making rules concerning women's and their reproductive health. This is why everyone won’t common sense needs to be apprehensive of conservatives overreach into women’s rights and bodily autonomy.

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