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Poll: Will you still be cheering for Argentina without Messi

No 85% (238 votes)
Yes 14% (41 votes)
This poll has ended

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Re: Without Messi, Will You Still Support Argentina? by CanadaOrBust(op): 12:31am On Jul 13
Flangelo12:
Go and sit down.

Name one thing Ronaldo has done in qualifiers or at the world cup, that had he not been in the team, they would not have been able to do.


I'll go further, in the last 5 years, give 3 wow moments from Ronaldo.
Excuse her.. She's a lady and bamboozled by Rinaldo's physique and looks. She has that confused with playing ability!
Re: Without Messi, Will You Still Support Argentina? by CanadaOrBust(op): 12:36am On Jul 13
Kobojunkie:
Nope! You only showed you are desperate to keep the narrative going, even in the face of evidence that shows it ain't an Argentina-only issue or an Argentina-is-wrong situation. undecided
You could start with this video below, then do further research


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N2LR0PLbiw?is=2xDOBLzgzzDLJcnQ

Re: Without Messi, Will You Still Support Argentina? by QuinQ(f): 12:43am On Jul 13
CanadaOrBust:
I see your point - to an extent.
At a certain level they must know it is not very nice to be calling people monkies grin
I mean, they don't mean it the way you take it. There is no real hatred or bitterness behind it
Re: Without Messi, Will You Still Support Argentina? by CanadaOrBust(op): 12:59am On Jul 13
QuinQ:
I mean, they don't mean it the way you take it. There is no real hatred or bitterness behind it
You are very kind-hearted. I hope you don't deal with people with this mindset!
Re: Without Messi, Will You Still Support Argentina? by QuinQ(f): 1:45am On Jul 13
CanadaOrBust:
You are very kind-hearted. I hope you don't deal with people with that mindset!
Re: Without Messi, Will You Still Support Argentina? by Bukola94(m): 2:17am On Jul 13
CanadaOrBust:
I always wonder how CR7 conned the world into comparing him with Messi. The big three are Pele, Maradona, and Messi. And Messi is the greatest of the three!
I like your comment and his your opinion. In my opinion Pele is the greatest. My greatest attackers, both Cr Ronaldo and Messi are on number six. Both footballers are greater than today footballers because they have playing career years that is so long for years.
Re: Without Messi, Will You Still Support Argentina? by Kobojunkie: 2:18am On Jul 13
CanadaOrBust:
➜Please stop saying Nigerians are racist if you still want people to take you seriously in this forum
If you cannot accept that even your beloved Nigerians are racists, then you already showed yourself a biased debater. undecided

As I already made clear, racism is not unique to any one people or country here, not even Argentina, which you are deadset on making it all about. undecided
Re: Without Messi, Will You Still Support Argentina? by QuinQ(f):
CanadaOrBust:
You are very kind-hearted. I hope you don't deal with people with this mindset!
Always give benefit of the doubt
Re: Without Messi, Will You Still Support Argentina? by CanadaOrBust(op): 3:52am On Jul 13
Kobojunkie:
If you cannot accept that even your beloved Nigerians are racists, then you already showed yourself a biased debater. undecided

As I already made clear, racism is not unique to any one people or country here, not even Argentina, which you are deadset on making it all about. undecided
I don't think you know definition of racist. I think you're confusing racism with tribalism. Nigerians are very welcoming to non-black foreigners - even more than fellow Nigerians.
Argentina happens to have been intentionally built on exclusion of black people. Hence lots of videos like this below

Re: Without Messi, Will You Still Support Argentina? by CanadaOrBust(op): 4:45am On Jul 13
Magnetic010:
imagine if an Asian person says he cannot support Nigeria because we do not have anyone of Asian heritage in our squad; are we also racist too
Actually if both Benin Republic and Togo have whites and we have had official govt policy of getting rid of whites, then yes we can be said to be very racist

Re: Without Messi, Will You Still Support Argentina? by quickly: 5:20am On Jul 13
Kobojunkie:
. Hostility usually draws from hate. So, definitely hate! undecided

2. Well, hating the illegal invasion of one's country is a form of hate. I would not go as far as to label it xenophobic in all cases. undecided

3. You are literally describing the same thing. undecided

4. That's not true! Some Nazi's fled to other places like Brazil, Chile, the Middle East, Egypt, and some hid in Europe. We need to stop trying too hard to make Argentina stand out for the sake of it. undecided

5. LOL... I read the rule, and I think it is funny! Why FIFA is attempting to regulate the speech of the players is beyond me. Shouldn't the fans be allowed to have a go at the issue instead? undecided

6. Most Nigerians are tribalistic/racist. Let's not mince words on this! Even right here in the Western world, it is just as apparent. undecided
you are exposing a typical nigerian naivety. The whole world even racist south americans will tell you argentina they are the masters of racism. the original inhabitants of that island were dark skinned people but they have been systematically wiped out.

Seems you never experience racism before, make you dey waka and ppl dey cover nose or you are denied service rudely and dismissed.
There are some that will even beat you to death or poison you if they have a chance. Just pray you don't jam them. There are some your sight just irritate tehm like they did to jews and put them in concentration camp for gassing.

na only jesus dey love people wey hate am. See how they are calling french black players monkey saying they are cameroounaias and nigerians


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyl6YcbnWgc?si=BlHR4VVUGzgWvvTZ
Re: Without Messi, Will You Still Support Argentina? by ddippset(m): 5:30am On Jul 13
Kylekent59:
I cannot support anyone from a racist country.

A country with no Black man, or black players and yet we have people worshipping them, more like Nigerian slaves who worship Messi


Capital no.
Ironically some people from racist countries live blacks and some have charity organizations that provide for black children, like Messi.
Re: Without Messi, Will You Still Support Argentina? by Kobojunkie: 5:32am On Jul 13
quickly:
➜you are exposing a typical nigerian naivety. The whole world even racist south americans will tell you argentina they are the masters of racism.
➜ the original inhabitants of that island were dark skinned people but they have been systematically wiped out.
➜ Seems you never experience racism before, make you dey waka and ppl dey cover nose or you are denied service rudely and dismissed.
There are some that will even beat you to death or poison you if they have a chance. Just pray you don't jam them. There are some your sight just irritate tehm like they did to jews and put them in concentration camp for gassing.
➜ na only jesus dey love people wey hate am. See how they are calling french black players monkey saying they are cameroounaias and nigerians
1. The world according to you, right? I get it! 🥱

2. Wrong! The original inhabitants of Argentina were not black. They were indigenous American descendants. The blacks came during the period of colonialism. 😒

3. Oh, what a convenient conclusion! 😒😒

4. If only Jesus dey love people wey hate am, doesn't that mean you are also a racist then, since that would mean that you also hate those who hate you because you are a different race/tribe/country, etc? Why is it racism when they do it and not racism when you do the same to them? 😒😒

Let me guess... mentality, you have created for yourself some sort of exemption from the rule? 🥱🥱🥱
Re: Without Messi, Will You Still Support Argentina? by Kukutente23: 6:14am On Jul 13
CanadaOrBust:
Reading these comments below, and knowing their very racist nature, without Messi will you still be cheering for Argentina?? cheesy
So we should take the comments of pained Pendu fans as gospel?
Re: Without Messi, Will You Still Support Argentina? by Kukutente23: 6:17am On Jul 13
CanadaOrBust:
As promised, see it below
How did they whiten or disappear them
Re: Without Messi, Will You Still Support Argentina? by Kukutente23: 6:30am On Jul 13
CanadaOrBust:
As promised, see it below
I don't think there was any country in this world that was not racist in those period in your screenshot
Be it Europe or Americas, Africa or Asia.
Slavery ended in Saudi Arabia in 1970 for example
The reason why you don't find many blacks migrating to Argentina today is because it's basically a poor country. Even Nigeria seems to have a better economy when compared with Argentina.
The whitening policy was a move to bring in a lot of white people into the country. I doubt a move to bring in a lot of blacks into their country will make sense to most Argentinians today since the country is already poor
Re: Without Messi, Will You Still Support Argentina? by Olatrent: 6:43am On Jul 13
Even with Messi, Argentina can’t get my support.. rubbish!😡
Re: Without Messi, Will You Still Support Argentina? by Surfaaceebaba: 7:28am On Jul 13
Yes 💯
Re: Without Messi, Will You Still Support Argentina? by CSTRR: 7:44am On Jul 13
They are a racist and a very unlikable nation.

I can't support them even with messi.
Re: Without Messi, Will You Still Support Argentina? by CSTRR: 7:46am On Jul 13
Kukutente23:
I don't think there was any country in this world that was not racist in those period in your screenshot
Be it Europe or Americas, Africa or Asia.
Slavery ended in Saudi Arabia in 1970 for example
The reason why you don't find many blacks migrating to Argentina today is because it's basically a poor country. Even Nigeria seems to have a better economy when compared with Argentina.
The whitening policy was a move to bring in a lot of white people into the country. I doubt a move to bring in a lot of blacks into their country will make sense to most Argentinians today since the country is already poor
Argentina genocided all their black people systematically, through war and diseases, and erased their records.

Historically, they used to be even richer than Brazil, so they have no excuse about not having black people.

There's a reason why many of the Nazi leaders ran from Germany and Italy to Argentina during World war 2.

Messi himself has Italian roots.
Re: Without Messi, Will You Still Support Argentina? by ViceGovernor: 8:43am On Jul 13
Look I understand you are hardcore fan of the assistant goat Messi, but you cannot come and twist reality that we all have been seeing in all Argentina matches this world cup ......the fact remains Egypt was robbed.

If Argentina had been eliminated the major sponsors of the tournament would have withdrawn their support, even FIFA president said he suffered with Argentina when they were trailing in a game, now how on God's green earth would you expect us to believe that those guys are not favoring Argentina?

The whole world saw the robbery.
CanadaOrBust:
You'd have had a point if the referee, sensing that time was running out, awarded Argentina indiscriminate penalties for flimsy excuses. But no, they scored fair and square, aided by nothing. You ought be blaming Egypt for not defending their goal line for few more minutes and at least getting additional 30 minutes and maybe into penalties.
I'm angry at Egypt not Argentina or ref
Re: Without Messi, Will You Still Support Argentina? by goodman5(m): 8:46am On Jul 13
Na because of messi anytime messi stop playing am done with them
Re: Without Messi, Will You Still Support Argentina? by Magnetic010: 8:49am On Jul 13
CanadaOrBust:
Actually if both Benin Republic and Togo have whites and we have had official govt policy of getting rid of whites, then yes we can be said to be very racist
You don’t seem to get my point? I am not doubting the fact that they are racist, God knows I will never ever defend Argentina but I have always had an issue with blacks complaining about other countries not featuring people of our skin tone in their sports team—-Why do we feel that other countries must have someone of African decent in their sports team? Have you ever heard of Asians complain about the same thing? Like Asians say America or Germany is racist towards them because they have never featured an Asian man in their national team?

It’s only we black people that keep complaining and crying of racism yet even within us here- we loathe each other
Re: Without Messi, Will You Still Support Argentina? by Deepthoughts: 8:55am On Jul 13
CanadaOrBust:
I get. I just assume almost everyone is a Messi fan because he's such a nice guy.
As for racism, which other country has ever set "Blancheamiento" (whitening) as official state policy as shown below? Suppose SA whites had done same? They'd just deport those SA blacks to other African countries and import whites from all over and today SA will be lily white. Also, from what I read, Argentinians seem proud of being racist!
which messi is a nice guy?, somebody who is so egocentric but masking it with fake introvertive appearance, this is a player whom by himself said that he doesn't change jersey with non Argentine players,vozinha the cape Verde heroic goalkeeper stated that when he approached messi for jersey change messi said he would only give him the jersey in the tunnel!, this same messi plays with an amulet worn around his leg,if an African did that the whole world would shout juju use!,Messi is a very good footballer better than Ronaldo but I prefer Ronaldo because he is more friendly to everyone n does a lot of philanthropy, it's no wonder Ronaldo has such large follwershp on social media.
Re: Without Messi, Will You Still Support Argentina? by Ibehchizzy: 8:58am On Jul 13
Kylekent59:
I cannot support anyone from a racist country.

A country with no Black man, or black players and yet we have people worshipping them, more like Nigerian slaves who worship Messi


Capital no.
in your own country there is tribal segregation who are u to cast the first stone lmao
Re: Without Messi, Will You Still Support Argentina? by Kukutente23: 8:58am On Jul 13
CSTRR:
Argentina genocided all their black people systematically, through war and diseases, and erased their records.

Historically, they used to be even richer than Brazil, so they have no excuse about not having black people.

There's a reason why many of the Nazi leaders ran from Germany and Italy to Argentina during World war 2.

Messi himself has Italian roots.
Genocide? I've never heard this before. Where's the evidence for this
I don't know what you mean by diseases. Do you mean they targeted them for diseases like using a chemical or biological weapon or what
Nazis ran almost everywhere they could even up to Canada after WW2
Re: Without Messi, Will You Still Support Argentina? by UzorIyke(m): 9:08am On Jul 13
Kylekent59:
I cannot support anyone from a racist country.

A country with no Black man, or black players and yet we have people worshipping them, more like Nigerian slaves who worship Messi


Capital no.
Na we black wey no be racist, you see any white for Nigeria teem.
No dey talk nonsense here.
Re: Without Messi, Will You Still Support Argentina? by engrchykae(m): 9:34am On Jul 13
QuinQQ:
From the comments it seems they're ignorant rather than racist - they don't know what they're doing
they surely know what they are doing
Re: Without Messi, Will You Still Support Argentina? by CSTRR: 9:35am On Jul 13
Kukutente23:
Genocide? I've never heard this before. Where's the evidence for this
I don't know what you mean by diseases. Do you mean they targeted them for diseases like using a chemical or biological weapon or what
Nazis ran almost everywhere they could even up to Canada after WW2
They allowed the blacks to be ravaged by diseases and refused to offer them access to good healthcare.
Watch this video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5L_GsCllHk
Re: Without Messi, Will You Still Support Argentina? by CSTRR: 9:36am On Jul 13
Kukutente23:
Genocide? I've never heard this before. Where's the evidence for this
I don't know what you mean by diseases. Do you mean they targeted them for diseases like using a chemical or biological weapon or what
Nazis ran almost everywhere they could even up to Canada after WW2
They allowed the blacks to be ravaged by diseases and refused to offer them access to good healthcare.

And no, the NAZIs did not ran to everywhere. They would have been arrested.
They went to only countries that were suitable to their ideologies.
Watch this video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5L_GsCllHk
Re: Without Messi, Will You Still Support Argentina? by Emdi1914: 9:53am On Jul 13
The Isie-ewu is the main reason why I support Argentina---He is the greatest of all the greatest-Lionel Asiwaju Bolaji MESSI😘

And about the matter of racism,are we blacks better than the whites when it comes to racial discrimination?
You people will not allow me to hear word.
Re: Without Messi, Will You Still Support Argentina? by Kukutente23: 10:53am On Jul 13
CSTRR:
They allowed the blacks to be ravaged by diseases and refused to offer them access to good healthcare.
Watch this video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5L_GsCllHk
Allowed? You mean they refused treatment of they infected blacks?
I would have preferred a tangible source and not some anonymous video
Are you saying Canada had same ideologies with Nazis?
Argentina has always had an open border policy especially for European migrants. In fact, the migrants mainly come from Spain and Italy. Germany is not among the top five historical migrants countries to Argentina
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