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CanadaOrBust:
But has any other country ever officially instituted "Blancheamiento" (whitening) state policy as shown below?
Suppose SA whites had done same? They'd just deport those SA blacks to other African countries and import whites from all over the world and today SA will be all white. Also, from what I read, Argentinians seem proud of being racist, unlike most countries!

Keep fooling yourself.

Australia, US and New Zealand once had only white immigration policy.

Looking at black ruled nations I would not blame any nation from having such policy.
Not when blacks run away from their own black ruled nation to the so called racist white ruled nation.

CSTRR:
They allowed the blacks to be ravaged by diseases and refused to offer them access to good healthcare.
Watch this video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5L_GsCllHk

This might be a better source for Kukutente23.

Time to challenge Argentina’s white European self-image, black history experts say

“Argentina needs to understand that it is both very racist and very Afro,” said black activist and researcher Alí Delgado.

University lecturer Patricia Gomes is another Afro-descendant researcher intent on demolishing Argentina’s mythical self-image as a white nation. “In Argentina it used to be said that here there were no blacks, therefore there was no one to be racist with – and hence there was no racism,” she said.

Delgado and Gomes point to recent studies of population surveys and genetics that paint a far different picture from Argentina’s accepted history: one recent study concluded that up to 9% of today’s Argentinians may have ancestry from Africa.

The reason is simple: between the 16th and 19th centuries – long before the wave of European migration – more than 200,000 enslaved Africans arrived at the twin ports of the River Plate, Buenos Aires and Montevideo, capital cities of what are now Argentina and Uruguay.

“The number of slaves who arrived to the region of the River Plate is almost half of those who arrived in the US, which gives an idea of the magnitude of slave traffic in the River Plate region,” according to Alex Borucki, a Uruguayan academic at the University of California Irvine, who co-manages the SlaveVoyages website that traces every ship carrying enslaved people that reached the Americas.
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In 1778, Africans and Afro-descendants made up 37% of the population of what is now Argentina, according to a census by its Spanish colonialist rulers. In some major provinces the proportion was more than 50%.

That number did not drop significantly after independence from Spain in 1816: Afro-descendants accounted for 30% of the population of Buenos Aires for decades after independence. But after that, the number is unknown, because Argentina’s census bureau stopped collecting racial information.

“Census data was manipulated to erase us first from the statistics – and then from the history books,” says Gomes. “From the end of the 19th century the state meticulously began to make us invisible to present Argentina as homogeneous and of European descent.”

Argentina’s “whitening process” has been studied in depth by US academic Erika Edwards in her book Hiding in Plain Sight, published last year by University of Alabama Press.

“The whitening project was a successful endeavor in terms of the erasure of blackness,” said Edwards. “The idea that somebody could be the descendant of a slave is just not there.”

That belief in a strictly European Argentina continues to percolate. “We are all descendants from Europe,” said President Mauricio Macri at the 2018 World Economic Forum in Davos.
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Argentina’s pro-European immigration policy was initiated under its 1853 constitution at a time when the country’s post-independence thinkers and politicians were obsessed with the dichotomy of Civilization and Barbarism – the title of a 1845 book by Domingo Sarmiento, the country’s seventh president. In this Manichean view, Afro-descendants were placed squarely on the barbarism end of the scale.

“If it was not possible to physically eliminate Argentina’s Afro-descendants, the decision was to at least eliminate them symbolically, to create a discourse that there are no blacks in Argentina, that Brazil has that problem,” says Edwards.

The entrenched poverty of many Afro-descendants goes hand in hand with Argentina’s structural racism, says Delgado.

“There are no black journalists or politicians, but Argentina’s poor barrios are full of Afro-descendants. So are our prisons, just like in the United States.”

Most present-day Afro-descendants are of mixed race because of inter-marriage between the male European immigrants who arrived after 1850 and Argentinian women of African descent.

“In the US, a drop of black blood makes you black, but in Argentina a drop of white blood makes you white,” said Gomes. “In a society where Afro-descendants were marginalized, many Afro-descendant families emphasized their whiteness to save themselves. They ripped up old photos and denied the existence of a black relative.”

The popularity of the two academics’ courses suggest that Argentina is finally opening up a long-postponed debate about race and identity.

“It’s time for Argentinians to take their black grandmother out of the closet,” said Delgado.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/31/argentina-white-european-racism-history

anonimi:
This might be a better source for3.

So where's the genocide and killing by diseases according to CSTRR

CanadaOrBust:
So how come Arab countries have some blacks playing, but Argentina emphatically doesn't and very proud of it?

Those blacks are slaves or immigrants. The real arabs are like royalty they dont do physical stuff like that.

So in your mind there are no blacks in Argentina? Or does "none" have another meaning I don't know?

CanadaOrBust:
Yeah? So how come there are lots of blacks in all those places but none in Argentina??

You are so naive about the same topic of which you are the OP.
For you to believe there are zero blacks in Argentina shows the pain of being a Ronaldo supporter.
Do you consider David Trezeguet a white or a black man?
If you consider him a black man, then know he is an Argentine.
Stop this Messi hatred, it will take you nowhere

CanadaOrBust:
Yeah? So how come Brazil next door to Argentina has tons of blacks, Argentina zero

Kukutente23:
How did they whiten or disappear them

Kukutente23:
So we should take the comments of pained Pendu fans as gospel?

Kukutente23:
I don't think there was any country in this world that was not racist in those period in your screenshot
Be it Europe or Americas, Africa or Asia.
Slavery ended in Saudi Arabia in 1970 for example
The reason why you don't find many blacks migrating to Argentina today is because it's basically a poor country. Even Nigeria seems to have a better economy when compared with Argentina.
The whitening policy was a move to bring in a lot of white people into the country. I doubt a move to bring in a lot of blacks into their country will make sense to most Argentinians today since the country is already poor

It is not a matter of pained Pendu fans. I believe Messi is the all time greatest footballer. This is a matter of historical FACT. They used blacks literally as cannon fodder during their war of independence. Waves and waves of unarmed blacks were put in the front. Then there were epidemics that killed off more poor black areas. Then they had official government policy of erasing blacks and whitening their society by importing whites from all over. Then they stopped counting blacks entirely as they said there were no more blacks in their country.
There are videos like this below and others that go into more detail:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N2LR0PLbiw?is=2xDOBLzgzzDLJcnQ

ViceGovernor:
Look I understand you are hardcore fan of the assistant goat Messi, but you cannot come and twist reality that we all have been seeing in all Argentina matches this world cup ......the fact remains Egypt was robbed.

If Argentina had been eliminated the major sponsors of the tournament would have withdrawn their support, even FIFA president said he suffered with Argentina when they were trailing in a game, now how on God's green earth would you expect us to believe that those guys are not favoring Argentina?

The whole world saw the robbery.

My friend Egypt was leading BY TWO GOALS WITH LESS THAN 15 MINS LEFT!
How will FIFA or anyone let that happen to a team they want to win??
In a world cup match when you have 15 minutes left and one team is leading 2-0, the game is over! Infact when I saw how Switzerland was out-playing Argentina and it was 1-1, I stopped watching because I knew Switzerland would win. Only later did I learn the story changed with a red card. FIFA and nobody could have predicted that red card!
So I blame Egypt totally.
All they had to do was prevent Argentina from scoring 3 goals in 15 minutes and the couldn't do it!

Magnetic010:
You don’t seem to get my point? I am not doubting the fact that they are racist, God knows I will never ever defend Argentina but I have always had an issue with blacks complaining about other countries not featuring people of our skin tone in their sports team—-Why do we feel that other countries must have someone of African decent in their sports team? Have you ever heard of Asians complain about the same thing? Like Asians say America or Germany is racist towards them because they have never featured an Asian man in their national team?

It’s only we black people that keep complaining and crying of racism yet even within us here- we loathe each other

No other nation historically eliminated their black population and proud of it, and always using racist gestures against black players and blacks generally.

African countries DON'T do that

Deepthoughts:
which messi is a nice guy?, somebody who is so egocentric but masking it with fake introvertive appearance, this is a player whom by himself said that he doesn't change jersey with non Argentine players,vozinha the cape Verde heroic goalkeeper stated that when he approached messi for jersey change messi said he would only give him the jersey in the tunnel!, this same messi plays with an amulet worn around his leg,if an African did that the whole world would shout juju use!,Messi is a very good footballer better than Ronaldo but I prefer Ronaldo because he is more friendly to everyone n does a lot of philanthropy, it's no wonder Ronaldo has such large follwershp on social media.

Messi is OBVIOUSLY a decent and humble fellow NOT always being aggressive like Ronaldo and others.
Here's the Vozinha you're talking about below, just gushing about Messi

blueAgent:
Keep fooling yourself.

Australia, US and New Zealand once had only white immigration policy.

Looking at black ruled nations I would not blame any nation from having such policy.
Not when blacks run away from their own black ruled nation to the so called racist white ruled nation.

Well, Argentina is CURRENTLY called the most racist nation on earth - and they are proud of it!

omoredia:
Those blacks are slaves or immigrants. The real arabs are like royalty they dont do physical stuff like that.

Physical stuff like playing football?

franvincoop:
So in your mind there are no blacks in Argentina? Or does "none" have another meaning I don't know?

I'm quoting Argentina census itself. They are very proud they don't have any blacks

franvincoop:
You are so naive about the same topic of which you are the OP.
For you to believe there are zero blacks in Argentina shows the pain of being a Ronaldo supporter.
Do you consider David Trezeguet a white or a black man?
If you consider him a black man, then know he is an Argentine.
Stop this Messi hatred, it will take you nowhere

I'm neither a Messi nor Rinaldo fan. I'm just an honest guy. After carefully watching videos of the greatest players, I came to the conclusion that Messi is the greatest - without necessarily being his fan.

As for blacks, I'm going by their own census. See below

azpekuliar:
The hypocrisy. Is Argentina more racist than Portugal, France, England or Spain? Countries who traded your ancestors as slaves for over 400 years. Show me one former colony of Argentina.

I guess they talking of today. They are more overtly racist today - making monkey gestures and such. But normally when you get close to such people you'll find they're really not racist

CanadaOrBust:
No other nation historically eliminated their black population and proud of it, and always using racist gestures against black players and blacks generally.

African countries DON'T do that

first get your facts right-

https://www.google.com/search?q=did+argentina+wipe+out+its+black+people&rlz=1CDGOYI_enNG1189NG1189&oq=did+argentina+wipe+out+its+black+people&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCTE5MzgyajBqN6gCGbACAeIDBBgBIF_xBXl99zDmOg5u&hl=en-GB&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8


Second a lot of you people’s anger is directed towards Messi and the football team not the nation itself- before Messi non of you guys were talking about Argentina and ther history, so let’s stop the hypocrisy please


Portugal started slave trade- how come none of you righteous people dislike the country for that?

MemphitzDgreat1:
I f**king HATE both the Argentinian nation team and their Portuguese counterpart

You sure are a hater. That's for sure!😅

DickenClarq:
Why should I?


If Messi retires I might stop watching football entirely because I have seen it all

Now this is what I call a fan, as in FANATIC!😂

Saint99:
People are just calling Messi out because of his affiliation to Israel. It is his choice. You don't force people to dislike who you dislike. As a professional, he had tried his best to keep his interest in the low profile yet people won't leave him alone. Some days ago one Arab commentator stated that Messi was not showed the red card because of the system was controlled by the Jewish lobbies.

I never knew Messi was affiliated to Israel. How?
It says everywhere that Argentina was a heaven for Jew-murdering Nazi criminals

Angelfrost:
Any African supporting Argentina seriously has mental health issues...!

It's okay to like Messi as an individual player, but to support Argentina, an idiotic racist enclave, just makes no sense.

I actually agree

dododawa1:
Who be Argentina without MESSI

MARADONA next MESSI

You mean Messi next Maradona
Messi is a much better all-round player

DenreleDave:
All these trash about being black are nonsense...

To the question, I won't support Argentina again after Messi is retired

But if Messi turns out to be coaching Argentina, then I go back to Argentina

I hear ya. A true Messi fanatic

Magnetic010:
first get your facts right-

https://www.google.com/search?q=did+argentina+wipe+out+its+black+people&rlz=1CDGOYI_enNG1189NG1189&oq=did+argentina+wipe+out+its+black+people&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCTE5MzgyajBqN6gCGbACAeIDBBgBIF_xBXl99zDmOg5u&hl=en-GB&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8


Second a lot of you people’s anger is directed towards Messi and the football team not the nation itself- before Messi non of you guys were talking about Argentina and ther history, so let’s stop the hypocrisy please


Portugal started slave trade- how come none of you righteous people dislike the country for that?

blueAgent:
Keep fooling yourself.

franvincoop:
So in your mind there are no blacks in Argentina? Or does "none" have another meaning I don't know?

Kobojunkie:
Argentina has zero blacks? You mean the soccer team? How many whites, Arabs, East or West Asians are on the Nigerian, Ghanaian, Camerounian, etc teams?

Why not educate yourself more about this topic before posting stuff. There are lots of videos and resources online. Even the link you posted is telling you there is sytemic govt policy to get rid of blacks as shown below

Kukutente23:
Genocide? I've never heard this before. Where's the evidence for this
I don't know what you mean by diseases. Do you mean they targeted them for diseases like using a chemical or biological weapon or what
Nazis ran almost everywhere they could even up to Canada after WW2

They sent them to front of war in droves without weapons, denied them medical care during epidemics, erased them from census rolls, and instituted official government policy of whitening that brought whites from all over

goodman5:
Na because of messi anytime messi stop playing am done with them

Voila!
You speak for almost all Nigerians

Ibehchizzy:
in your own country there is tribal segregation who are u to cast the first stone lmao

But we did not get rid of Hausas and Igbos

Why did you not post the whole page of your census search result?

I have only one question to ask you?

Is David Trezeguet a black man or a white man?

CanadaOrBust:
I'm neither a Messi nor Rinaldo fan. I'm just an honest guy. After carefully watching videos of the greatest players, I came to the conclusion that Messi is the greatest - without necessarily being his fan.

As for blacks, I'm going by their own census. See below

Is David Trezeguet a black man or a white man?
David Trezeguet is an Argentine.

CanadaOrBust:
Why not educate yourself more about this topic before posting stuff. There are lots of videos and resources online. Even the link you posted is telling you there is sytemic govt policy to get rid of blacks as shown below



They sent them to front of war in droves without weapons, denied them medical care during epidemics, erased them from census rolls, and instituted official government policy of whitening that brought whites from all over

franvincoop:
Is David Trezeguet a black man or a white man?
David Trezeguet is an Argentine.

See below
See his family below that

You'll keep asking that till he calls you monkey!😅

CanadaOrBust:
Physical stuff like playing football?

Yes

omoredia:
Yes

Funny guy, Playing football is physical labour

franvincoop:
Why did you not post the whole page of your census search result?

I have only one question to ask you?

Is David Trezeguet a black man or a white man?

David was born in France and obviously considers himself white. Over 10% of Argentinians carry African DNA (all those black women left were having sex) compared to almost zero percent Russians for example. So once in a while a "black" baby will.be born to an otherwise white family. Doesn't mean he considers himself black!

CanadaOrBust:
Why not educate yourself more about this topic before posting stuff. There are lots of videos and resources online. Even the link you posted is telling you there is sytemic govt policy to get rid of blacks as shown below



They sent them to front of war in droves without weapons, denied them medical care during epidemics, erased them from census rolls, and instituted official government policy of whitening that brought whites from all over

None of those constitute genocide. It can be called discrimination or segregation but definitely not genocide