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Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by seunmsg(m): 11:00am On Jul 26
AVAVictor1:
Note: Atiku will not get up to 5 million votes.
Reasons.
1. In all the southern states he cannot accumulate more than 1 million votes.
2. North Central also more than 1 million votes
3. He cannot secure more than 3 million votes in both North Central and North East.
Factors responsible for these figures.
1. No more Access to reasonable amounts of money.
2. As of today you have executive chairmen, vice chairmen that will influence voters decision because of their grassroot connection which will not favour Atiku.
3. Remember most of the Governors are very rich now to do political magic
4. No more cashless policy.
5. No major political support groups
6. Most of the students that have access to Nelfund will not vote for Atiku
He would have performed excellently well if he ended up getting 1m votes in the south. If he’s contesting on the PDP platform, that would have been possible as the party structure would carry him. But as it stands, ADC is practically nonexistent in the south. Not a single popular southern politician is in the party. The party has no structure whatsoever in the region. So, Atiku will be lucky to get 20k votes in any Southern state. 1million is just too far fetched.
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by tegrianonigltd(m): 11:00am On Jul 26
Parachoko:
Peter Obi Will Never Become The President Of Nigeria
Instead of thinking how to remove your generations from poverty, you are prophesying about a wealthy man who have written his name on the sands of time, that your generations will read about. Same as Tinubu and Atiku, all in the sands of time, but no. You all with sit and fight your fellow poor masses because of those who keep you in poverty.
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by Omenlon: 11:07am On Jul 26
Una always like to make una self happy. If Peter obi see half of his 2023 votes he over tried. Make he come win Edo, delta, lagos again make I see the jass he dey use.
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by seunmsg(m): 11:08am On Jul 26
Parachoko:
Nah from Obidients I learn the strategy from o

I doubt you ever called out any of your brothers who were fond of saying "Tinubu Will Never Become The President Of Nigeria"
I read his hypocritical cries and had a good laugh. On this same thread, he declared that “no absurdity is beyond Tinubu”. So I was wondering, what political strategy was that? Is that a way of campaigning for your own candidate?

Obailala and other obidients like him can’t take what they dish out. They can’t even take their own advice. It’s only a hypocrite that will declare emphatically that no absurdity is beyond a candidate and then turn around to complain when another person declares emphatically that his preferred candidate can’t ever become president.
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by Svoboda(m): 11:12am On Jul 26
Nice2023:
The sentiments in the north here where I live is that,Tinubu is going home.

And there is nothing anyone can do.

If he rigs and the number does not tally with what is on ground,he is then demanding for fight.

Mark this my word again,Tinubu is going home.
Leave them. They don't know.
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by Nobellight77(m): 11:13am On Jul 26
Amazingly, some persons already know who the winner of the coming presidential election will be. Before anything ever becomes physical, it is already decided in the spiritual. cool
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by MrSly(m): 11:13am On Jul 26
lamentor78:
One mistake you are also making is using past results to forecast the future.

Obi ran under LP .....Trade Union party, Church sympathy.

Let us see where the new found love NDC will take him to.
Labour Party was not known until the presence of PO made it popular. It has returned to oblivion since PO left and NDC now has it. You guys are so self delusional. An obvious truth but you would consciously tell yourself otherwise.
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by spiSeyi: 11:15am On Jul 26
PO lost his only ticket to presidency the day he left Atiku's train, he could have humbly vice him to gain more ground in the North wink. Kwankwanso will go back to APC he is just using PO for popularity just as anyone else. The 2027 race is strictly between Atiku and PBAT (because after PMB who is now late Atiku remain the only Northern political juganut that will earn massive votes which can send PBAT packing). After 2027 Obi should kiss the presidency a final goodbye grin
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by Svoboda(m): 11:16am On Jul 26
seunmsg:
Atiku 6.9 million votes includes heavy votes from Osun, Delta, Lagos, Akwa Ibom, Bayelsa, Edo and other very strong southern and middle belt states. Those votes were majorly influenced by the PDP governors and very strong PDP structures in those state.

In 2027, there is no single governor behind Atiku and the PDP structures have been merged into APC. So, we now have a stronger APC and a structure less ADC in the south and North Central. Atiku won’t get 10% in any southern or NC state. That’s about half of the 6.9 million votes. And guess what, majority of those votes will be going to APC. In Rivers state, Amaechi will not get 100k. Not with Wike and Fubara working together and Obi on the ballot. So, the 300k in unrealistic.
What ever Atiku loses in the south, he makes double in the north. Can the same be said of Tinubu in the north? Tinubu will haemorrhage votes in the north. Can he make up for them in the south? You think southerners will blindly vote out of sentiments? Even Tinubu lacks your kind of confidence?
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by FSBoperator: 11:19am On Jul 26
obailala:
With Tinubu sitting in Aso Rock, it's a bit tricky judging the outcome of 2027 based on the performance of 2023.

While the other top candidates would likely retain their support base, Tinubu by virtue of his nature, character and presence in Aso Rock has earned about 4 additional key supporters:
1. INEC
2. JUDICIARY
3. ARMED FORCES
4. CBN

2027 election might just be the first in Nigeria's history where the number of votes may surpass the number of registered voters. No absurdity is beyond Tinubu!

Only thing that can change this is if Nigerians come out in record numbers to vote and defend their votes. So the key strategy of APC in 2027 would be to vehemently discourage people from coming out to vote.
The opposition has been so useless that they have not won one single bye elections after 2023.

Even ordinary Local Govt elections where they are supposed to show their grassroot support , they lost woefully.

I don't understand were Obi and Atiku are going to get votes to remove Tinubu.

You can even see that the modus by both Atiku and Obi is to get Tinubu disqualified since they can't muster the power base and support to oust Tinubu.

Leave Social media troll farm rants by the Obidients.

Majority of Nigerians are not on Nairaland and even the total number of active and passive members here at any given day is not up to 10,000 unique members and out of that same number, majority are from multiple troll accounts .

If you also want to use the echo chamber that is Facebook , you will be setting yourself up for massive disappointment because Facebook networks attract the same crowd usually from the same ethnicity so you are not going to get a good guage of opinion regarding the upcoming elections .

The real people that will determine the elections are the silent voters who only show up on election day and I will tell you that just as your average Obidient has an unshakeable support for their Obi, so also do these silent voters whom you all ignore until election day also have strong commitment to Tinubu .

Blaming INEC , Judiciary and other state institutions for the impending loss that the opposition will face is only self cold comforting.

As per Obi, I don't know the way forward for him because as an opposition figure , he has exposed himself more than he ought to have exposed Tinubu.

Concerning Alhaji Atiku, this is his last outing and when he losses again, he will retire permanently from politics. But Obi, will only continue to degrade himself more because another 4ys in opposition to Tinubu will not amount to anything to him given that come 2031, the Presidency is going to the north and from every indicator , it will be a candidate from the APC handpicked and fully supported by Tinubu.

So what will Obi do as opposition the coming 12ys that will see Nigerians eager to vote for him in 2039 when he squandered his credentials by being a petty opposition figure with zero leadership and seed planting skills?
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by seunmsg(m): 11:20am On Jul 26
Svoboda:
What ever Atiku loses in the south, he makes double in the north. Can the same be said of Tinubu in the north? Tinubu will haemorrhage votes in the north. Can he make up for them in the south? You think southerners will blindly vote out of sentiments? Even Tinubu lacks your kind of confidence?
Ok.
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by franchasng: 11:22am On Jul 26
Parachoko:
Peter Obi Will Never Become The President Of Nigeria
Usual statement of your people which is based on deep-rooted hatred for where Peter Obi comes from, try and be more objective and enlightened in your comments, the more you repeat that song they taught you from birth, the more you look scornful to Nigerians, learn!
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by Omenlon: 11:25am On Jul 26
Svoboda:
What ever Atiku loses in the south, he makes double in the north. Can the same be said of Tinubu in the north? Tinubu will haemorrhage votes in the north. Can he make up for them in the south? You think southerners will blindly vote out of sentiments? Even Tinubu lacks your kind of confidence?
this north obsession una dey get go wound una. For the sake of your mental health, tinubu will beat Atiku black and blue in your north come 2027, know this and have peace.
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by FSBoperator: 11:26am On Jul 26
Svoboda:
What ever Atiku loses in the south, he makes double in the north. Can the same be said of Tinubu in the north? Tinubu will haemorrhage votes in the north. Can he make up for them in the south? You think southerners will blindly vote out of sentiments? Even Tinubu lacks your kind of confidence?
This is a fallacy you are concocting from nowhere but your head.

Atiku as opposition leader has not seen to ordinary LGA election win for the ADC.
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by franvincoop: 11:27am On Jul 26
Tinubu will get 25% in all the States apart from the SE but Tinubu will not get the highest number of votes in 2027.
Therefore prepare yourself for 2027 February/March 2nd round Presidential elections - Tinubu vs Atiku/Obi


seunmsg:
Winning a state is irrelevant in the presidential ambition. What matters is to get the highest numbers of valid votes and get the required 25% in 2/3 of states. If you can’t meet the constitutional requirement, you’re just wasting your time irrespective of the numbers of states won.

So, serious candidates don’t bother about how to win a state but how to get the maximum votes possible in that particular state.
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by FSBoperator: 11:28am On Jul 26
Omenlon:
this north obsession una dey get go wound una. For the sake of your mental health, tinubu will beat Atiku black and blue in your north come 2027, know this and have peace.
See leave Obidients.

They are now caught between voting Atiku over Obi because it's now they see that obi can not be accepted in the north but their ethnic bigotry is standing in their way.

Note that Obidients are only interested in seeing Tinubu removed from office and they know deep down that Obi can never smell Aso Rock.

The problem now is how to get obidients that hooked on IPOB anti north and anti Fulani rhetoric to vote. Fulani man instead of their Obi
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by FSBoperator: 11:29am On Jul 26
franvincoop:
Tinubu will get 25% in all the States apart from the SE but Tinubu will not get the highest number of votes in 2027.
Therefore prepare yourself for 2027 February/March 2nd round Presidential elections - Tinubu vs Atiku/Obi
Who will then get those votes ? Your Obi?

Dreamer.
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by iamjavadem(m): 11:30am On Jul 26
This time around, Tinubu has won the election since, Obi and Atiku are not contesting together again? Why do we keep making the same mistakes.
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by Reloadedisraelp: 11:31am On Jul 26
Parachoko:
Peter Obi Will Never Become The President Of Nigeria
he'll become by fire by force grin
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by franchasng: 11:33am On Jul 26
Lithiumite:
An election that will held same day with 360 HOR seats and 109 SENATE seats.......show us the NDC and ADC candidates for these seats,they are even non exitent in majority of the states while APC on the other hand has candidates for every seat in every state.

Tinubu ran with atiku with the formidable pdp machinery behind him,obi benefitted from the protest votes and religious sentiments in 23......all 4 ran as equals but now one has all the power while the others have been faltering since 23,if that tells you nothing, you know nothing.

Any state tinubu doesn't win he will come a close 2nd while atiku cant get 25% across any southern state amd obi still cant effectively cross over in the core north where he performed woefully in the last elections.

The same reason you are cocksure obi will clear the SE is the same reason core northern voters will never leave 2 Muslim candidates for a xtian especially that with no link whatsoever with the north whether in terms of alignment, support,investment or bridge building in the past.

Get off that thing you are smoking or beter still change your supply,its making you loose it fast.
Northern Nigeria made Tinubu President, and the same Northern Nigeria are feeling heavily betrayed by Tinubu and have vowed that Tinubu will never return to Presidency in 2027 and reason Tinubu held El Rufai that have the greatest capacity after Buhari to rally and mobilize Northern Muslims against Tinubu.



Tinubu had the biggest advantage to win in 2023, but today, the biggest advantage he has is being the incumbent President that can decide to carelessly rig the election which is what he is banking on, nothing more or less, but I tell you, with the anger in the North and even in the Southeast against Tinubu, rigging the election might lead to national chaos because the loss will be too obvious to rig.



What I foresee is that Atiku or Obi might get the highest number of votes cast while Tinubu will get the highest national spread which will lead to rerun.



If the rerun happens between Tinubu and Atiku, Obidients will vote for Atiku during the second round.


If the rerun is between Tinubu and Obi, Atiku supporters will throw their weight behind Obi/Kwankwaso.



Tinubu's only pathway to reelection is through massive rigging which may lead to chaos.
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by CapitalBank: 11:34am On Jul 26
Parachoko:
Peter Obi Will Never Become The President Of Nigeria
no problem about that. Just make sure you have enough money to take care of old body at 80 years old.
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by CapitalBank: 11:36am On Jul 26
seunmsg:
Atiku 6.9 million votes includes heavy votes from Osun, Delta, Lagos, Akwa Ibom, Bayelsa, Edo and other very strong southern and middle belt states. Those votes were majorly influenced by the PDP governors and very strong PDP structures in those state.

In 2027, there is no single governor behind Atiku and the PDP structures have been merged into APC. So, we now have a stronger APC and a structure less ADC in the south and North Central. Atiku won’t get 10% in any southern or NC state. That’s about half of the 6.9 million votes. And guess what, majority of those votes will be going to APC. In Rivers state, Amaechi will not get 100k. Not with Wike and Fubara working together and Obi on the ballot. So, the 300k in unrealistic.
lol. I too like APC people for one thing…

Dem sabi deceive themselves instead saying they are banking on INEC.

This one think this is 2015
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by FSBoperator: 11:38am On Jul 26
franchasng:
Usual statement of your people which is based on deep-rooted hatred for where Peter Obi comes from, try and be more objective and enlightened in your comments, the more you repeat that song they taught you from birth, the more you look scornful to Nigerians, learn!
And your people have shown love to other Nigerians abi?

Are you not the same people who have villified the entire Muslim north because of Buhari as President and are doing same to Yorubas because of Tinubu?

You will stab someone and be the one crying in pain.
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by Reloadedisraelp: 11:39am On Jul 26
In the south here ....this election is between tinubu vs obi... To me I like both candidates...and dunno who to choose....,I like tinubu for his stubborn mindset, while I like obi for his giveaway attitude.... I still dey think who I go vote for. smiley
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by franchasng: 11:40am On Jul 26
CapitalBank:
lol. I too like APC people for one thing…

Dem sabi deceive themselves instead saying they are banking on INEC.

This one think this is 2015
All their hope, arrogance and bragging of Tinubu winning 2027 Presidential election is on massive rigging using state institutions controlled by Tinubu as incumbent President but they forget how angry Northerners and Southeasterners are with Tinubu and his failed government, rigging the election when the loss is too obvious will most likely lead to national chaos.



To them, nothing will happen just because nothing happened in 2023 that Tinubu lost and got rigged in by INEC.
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by Svoboda(m): 11:40am On Jul 26
FSBoperator:
This is a fallacy you are concocting from nowhere but your head.

Atiku as opposition leader has not seen to ordinary LGA election win for the ADC.
How many LGAs did Buharis CPC win before the 2011 presidential contest?
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by Reloadedisraelp: 11:42am On Jul 26
iamjavadem:
This time around, Tinubu has won the election since, Obi and Atiku are not contesting together again? Why do we keep making the same mistakes.
it's not a mistake stop deceiving urself..... atiku time has passed....he already contested 5times n fail....his time has pass and only the north cannot mk him president..
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by LagosOrigin: 11:43am On Jul 26
lamentor78:
One mistake you are also making is using past results to forecast the future.

Obi ran under LP .....Trade Union party, Church sympathy.

Let us see where the new found love NDC will take him to.
Banditry, kidnapping and economic hardship will strongly work against tinubu in 2027..

Put that too into consideration
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by Oba1ni(m): 11:44am On Jul 26
If it is to go by your calculation, and free, fair and credible election, shey electorates are no longer Nigerians abi, and them no dey see the shege way una greediness dey make them pass through?

Continue, nothing bad in dreaming.

seunmsg:
Atiku 6.9 million votes includes heavy votes from Osun, Delta, Lagos, Akwa Ibom, Bayelsa, Edo and other very strong southern and middle belt states. Those votes were majorly influenced by the PDP governors and very strong PDP structures in those state.

In 2027, there is no single governor behind Atiku and the PDP structures have been merged into APC. So, we now have a stronger APC and a structure less ADC in the south and North Central. Atiku won’t get 10% in any southern or NC state. That’s about half of the 6.9 million votes. And guess what, majority of those votes will be going to APC. In Rivers state, Amaechi will not get 100k. Not with Wike and Fubara working together and Obi on the ballot. So, the 300k in unrealistic.
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by franvincoop: 11:44am On Jul 26
Bushmeat don finally catch hunter.
You see that North, that electoral well Tinubu fetched votes from in 2023, in 2027 we will all draw votes from that same well, then we will leave you be with your SW votes and balablu you in SS and SE and see how your kinsman will not be OTP with this same INEC.




FSBoperator:
Who will then get those votes ? Your Obi?

Dreamer.
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by franchasng: 11:48am On Jul 26
FSBoperator:
And your people have shown love to other Nigerians abi?

Are you not the same people who have villified the entire Muslim north because of Buhari as President and are doing same to Yorubas because of Tinubu?

You will stab someone and be the one crying in pain.
Our decision not to support Buhari and Tinubu is based on who they are as a person and not about their tribe because Igbos massively and happily supported Obasanjo a Yoruba man for 8 years. The same Igbos happily voted and supported Yaradua a Fulani Muslim.


The same Igbos always supported Atiku a Fulani Muslim until Peter Obi a better candidate and an Igbo man emerged.


The same Igbos voted massively for MKO Abiola a Yoruba man even though I know you were deceived by your elites and media houses into believing Igbos didn't vote for MKO. Go and check the 1993 Presidential election result, Southeast had just 4 states and out of the 4 states, MKO Abiola won 1 state and still got more than 40% of total votes cast in the other 3 states in Southeast despite having a prominent Igbo man as a running mate to MKO's opponent. Go and check the result in Northern Nigeria, the states MKO lost, he didn't even get up to 20% but in Southeast states were Tofa won MKO, MKO lost with a very small margin because where Tofa got say 45% votes, MKO got 43%, meaning Tofa only won by little margin, which shows Igbos massively voted for MKO a Yoruba man.



So our decision not to support Tinubu and Buhari is about who they are and not about their tribe and you can never hear an Igbo man arrogantly say that A YORUBA MAN WILL NEVER BECOME PRESIDENT OF NIGERIA, only Yorubas make that shameful statement and they say it with so much joy instead of feeling ashamed of making such horrible statement of hatred!!



Make una try learn if not nature go teach una the bitter lesson of life, learn and stop arguing baselessly
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