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motymop:
there is always opportunity to get saved after committing crimes and i love God, he will always forgive.

that is why in this world i dont even believe in sins because at the end of the day, it is a means to an end, we cheat and lie because it is a means to an end and at the end god will always forgive us of our sins, as long as we accept him

lol I wonder what Judas Iscariot would say about this

ebubeson:
You may have heard teachers telling you that once you are saved it is final. Is this true?

When you get saved and accept Jesus, you receive salvation but if you later commit any sin without repenting of it, you become a candidate of hell fire. Every sin you commit even after being saved, you must ask God for forgiveness of such a sin. A saved person might sin out of carelessness, but such a person must ask God for forgiveness of such a sin. If you assume that once you are saved, any sin committed does not count, you are or may be heading to hell fire.

Hebrew 10: 38 "Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him"

If you have committed any sin, please tell Jesus now that you are sorry and that he should forgive all your sins.

Brother Demas lost his salvation

expert234:
Jesus saving you means you have been saved from sin.and transformed. It means your past sins are washed in his blood and you are now a new person even while you live on earth.

You are making the exact mistake committed by the Jews, which prevented them from accepting Jesus as the messiah.

Who is preaching all these nornsense to you people?!

Thank God you said "past sins" which is clearly like the ruler who forgave the servant's past debts. But when the servant sinned got indebted again, we all saw what happened to him. So, was he saved?

You are the one making the mistake of using your wishes to interpret the Bible and therefore you are only seeing things you like to see while ignoring the Truth and real eyeity.

gohf:
true 💯✅ but lol you know that part he mixed up may have been a mistake

True. And since he did not counter me, then it means he acknowledges his error

ebubeson:
You may have heard teachers telling you that once you are saved it is final. Is this true?

When you get saved and accept Jesus, you receive salvation but if you later commit any sin without repenting of it, you become a candidate of hell fire. Every sin you commit even after being saved, you must ask God for forgiveness of such a sin. A saved person might sin out of carelessness, but such a person must ask God for forgiveness of such a sin. If you assume that once you are saved, any sin committed does not count, you are or may be heading to hell fire.

Hebrew 10: 38 "Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him"

If you have committed any sin, please tell Jesus now that you are sorry and that he should forgive all your sins.

This is your real savior. Your mother who bled and sometimes died to give you life. Your gender wrote the Bible to make them relevant.

gohf:
lol I wonder what Judas Iscariot would say about this

One could argue that Judas actually never got saved for look at him, he clearly had his own plans and being saved wasn't one of them

There is no definite answer. It all depends on the person that was saved. The one who was saved from drowning can decide to walk back into water anytime if he so desires or stay far from it.

motymop:
there is always opportunity to get saved after committing crimes and i love God, he will always forgive...

Did you not read what happened to Esau, Saul, David, Solomon and the children of Israel etc?

Nobellight77:
There is no definite answer. It all depends on the person that was saved. The one who was saved from drowning can decide to walk back into water anytime if he so desires or stay far from it.

Correct guy. See perfect and balanced understanding how people don't think like this just amazes me

Dtruthspeaker:
Correct guy. See perfect and balanced understanding how people don't think like this just amazes me

Thanks. I'm glad you got the point. Happy Sunday.

Dtruthspeaker:
Did you not read what happened to Esau, Saul, David, Solomon and the children of Israel etc?

Those were in the old testament...

Let's not forget that David slept with someone's wife, then sent the husband to the hottest part of the war, so that the man can die and he can take over his wife.

That woman gave birth to Solomon, who was the richest and wisest man of his time

God still forgave him of adultery

gohf:
lol I wonder what Judas Iscariot would say about this

Jesus forgave judas but because judas was weak in the heart, he was filled with guilt and committed suicide.

If he was strong hearted, he wouldn't have killed himself

ok no wahala last last evrybody go dey alright

motymop:
Those were in the old testament...

Let's not forget that David slept with someone's wife, then sent the husband to the hottest part of the war, so that the man can die and he can take over his wife.

That woman gave birth to Solomon, who was the richest and wisest man of his time

God still forgave him of adultery

Judas, Ananias and wife, the 5 virgins locked out, Demas are all in what you call the new testament.

motymop:
Those were in the old testament...

Let's not forget that David slept with someone's wife, then sent the husband to the hottest part of the war, so that the man can die and he can take over his wife.

That woman gave birth to Solomon, who was the richest and wisest man of his time

God still forgave him of adultery

Judas, Ananias and wife, the 5 virgins locked out, Demas are all in what you call the new testament.

Plus, David was still punished for his adulteries and murders.

There is no heaven. There is no hell...
But there is karma in this world...
If you desire to do good because of heaven or fear of hell, you are transacting with God and not serving him...

Nobellight77:
Thanks. I'm glad you got the point. Happy Sunday.

Ah! The point is over clear. And happy Sunday to you Bros

Dtruthspeaker:
Judas, Ananias and wife, the 5 virgins locked out, Demas are all in what you call the new testament.

Plus, David was still punished for his adulteries and murders, so face the Truth and be set free if you want

Peter also betrayed jesus Christ but he asked for forgiveness was forgiven. judas was also forgiven but he allowed guilt to ruin him

Ananias and his wife and 5 virgins didn't ask for forgiveness and they were killed

My point is if you ask for forgiveness, God will forgive you.

CALCULUS16:
There is no heaven. There is no hell...
But there is karma in this world...
If you desire to do good because of heaven or fear of hell, you are transacting with God and not serving him...

Isn't it clear that you are confused? You accept that there is punishment for wrongdoers yet you do not accept the concept of heaven and hell? You can't eat your cake and put it in the fridge

Jehovah witness is a false doctrine and you are going to hell

MaxInDHouse:
Salvation comes from knowing the only true God and Jesus Christ who was sent by God! John 17:3

No matter where you are born this isn't the life God purposed for humans this system came due to the rebellion of our first human parents that is why there is sickness, suffering, prejudice, crime, mourning, pain and death.

God will restore Paradise back as He purposed in the beginning but only the humble and righteous ones will be there. Zephaniah 2:2-3

So if you and your ancestors worship anything before now God won't judge you for that rather He will remember you during the resurrection of faithful people but as an UNRIGHTEOUS person because you don't know His righteous laws nor lived by it instead you have lived by the moral compass He built in all humans which is known as CONSCIENCE. Romans 2:14-15

This means you will have the opportunity to live once again among God's servants in Paradise {Luke 23:43} and they will teach you all the things you need to know about everlasting life which Jesus taught them.

But if you have met Jesus' disciples in your lifetime and noticed all the fine qualities that God wants you to know about Him and His people yet you chose to ignore then you may no longer be needed in Paradise! Matthew 10:14-15

The person that you tried your possible best tonsee that he never roses from the dead has arisen o

All you purveyors of false doctrines are done for.

motymop:
Peter also betrayed jesus Christ but he asked for forgiveness was forgiven. judas was also forgiven but he allowed guilt to ruin him

Ananias and his wife and 5 virgins didn't ask for forgiveness and they were killed

My point is if you ask for forgiveness, God will forgive you.

Where did you see Judas forgiven? Plus you are calling the only person who got forgiven whereas a great majority did not receive it.

And for you claim that it is old testament, are you saying that God Changed and Changes?

ebubeson:
You may have heard teachers telling you that once you are saved it is final. Is this true?

When you get saved and accept Jesus, you receive salvation but if you later commit any sin without repenting of it, you become a candidate of hell fire. Every sin you commit even after being saved, you must ask God for forgiveness of such a sin. A saved person might sin out of carelessness, but such a person must ask God for forgiveness of such a sin. If you assume that once you are saved, any sin committed does not count, you are or may be heading to hell fire.

Hebrew 10: 38 "Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him"

If you have committed any sin, please tell Jesus now that you are sorry and that he should forgive all your sins.

There are 4000 plus religion. So, which is actually supreme over the other? Before you answer, read Thomas Payne and Archbishop Desmond Tutu's submission on religiousities and doctrinations.

Just believe in God and do your best to believe in whatever route you are accessing God. If through Jesus, fine. But you can't really escape the concept of sin on ya own. None is without sin.

For anyone who says he is without sin is a liar and the truth is not in him. You can only do your best and pray for the Grace of God to help you.

Cos at times, your inactions are sins on there on. Do good. For unto him that knowest to do good but doest it not, it is a sin.

Wo! We just a bunch holy sinners and sinning saints. That's all.

If you are well now does it mean you can't get sick... It's a journey and anything can happen along the way

b0rn2fuck:
I was saved in an alter but already branch beer parlor before I get home

Go read the parable of the sower

dalitigator:
There are 4000 plus religion. So, which is actually supreme over the other? Before you answer, read Thomas Payne and Archbishop Desmond Tutu's submission on religiousities and doctrinations.

Just believe in God and do your best to believe in whatever route you are accessing God. If through Jesus, fine. But you can't really escape the concept of sin on ya own. None is without sin.

For anyone who says he is without sin is a liar and the truth is not in him. You can only do your best and pray for the Grace of God to help you.

Cos at times, your inactions are sins on there on. Do good. For unto him that knowest to do good but doest it not, it is a sin.

Wo! We just a bunch holy sinners and sinning saints. That's all.

Desmond Tutu and co aren't the Bible

Emancipate yourself from the lies of the devil by reading the Bible

paxonel:
on the condition that person did not deviate from the faith Jesus Christ established when he resurrected

Hebrews 10:14 For by one offering he hath perfected forever them that are sanctified.

So the perfection is forever, not even your sin can stop it.

Otherwise his death and resurrection is meaningless
there is no place in the bible that says this.

It is wrong
it is highly recommended to repent and ask God for forgiveness for you not to be judged by the law.
But this absolutely unnecessary to maintain the law of Grace.
What the law of Grace is required is your faith only.

Romans 4:3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
the truth is, nobody want to sin and be made scape goat the law. Sin is a natural occurence nobody is above it.
Everybody are guilty alike irrespective of the level of sin.

Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
very recommended and true. One need to ask God for forgiveness and repent.
Everyone including Non Christians need repentence.
Such repentance cannot take a non Christian to heaven
this is wrong.
If someone is sentenced to court for killing your love one, you will never accept hell fire as justice.
The person must be jailed or killed too

That is, if a man draw back from the faith, take note.
It didn't say if a man commit sin

There is even no guarantee that when a person continue doing this, he will stop committing sin.

So let us sincerely try our best on our own to repent

If a wicked man turns away from all the sins he has committed and keeps all my decrees and does what is just and right, he will surely live... None of the offenses he has committed will be remembered against him... But if a righteous man turns from his righteousness and commits sin... None of the righteous things he has done will be remembered." (Ezekiel 18:21–24) God is the same yesterday, today and for ever.

What was Jesus trying to say when he said He who sets his hands on the plough and looks back is not fit for the kingdom?

Also, look at the verse below:

"For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit... and then have fallen away, to restore them again to repentance..."
Hebrews 6:4–6

where your likes pick your teachings from, I don't even know

judewrites:
If Jesus became sin and God the father looked away from Him ....who are you that will enter heaven with any sin?

Just one sin can disqualify even the holiest from making heaven!

You have to work out your salvation, nothing like forever saved if you live in sin!

Thou art of purer eyes than to behold evil, and canst not look on iniquity...
— Habakkuk 1:13

If a wicked man turns away from all the sins he has committed and keeps all my decrees and does what is just and right, he will surely live... None of the offenses he has committed will be remembered against him... But if a righteous man turns from his righteousness and commits sin... None of the righteous things he has done will be remembered." (Ezekiel 18:21–24)

MiddleDimension:
If a wicked man turns away from all the sins he has committed and keeps all my decrees and does what is just and right, he will surely live... None of the offenses he has committed will be remembered against him... But if a righteous man turns from his righteousness and commits sin... None of the righteous things he has done will be remembered." (Ezekiel 18:21–24) God is the same yesterday, today and for ever.

Meaning, God is law abiding.
He keeps to his laws and he does not change over it.
These laws are physical laws :
Thou shall not steal
Thou shall not lie.. etc

What was Jesus trying to say when he said He who sets his hands on the plough and looks back is not fit for the kingdom?

He meant spiritual law, not physical laws.
The statement is like saying He who believed and later doubted, is not fit for the kingdom.

Note that physical laws does not justify anyone into the kingdom, only spiritual law does.
Therefore there is no correlation between the physical and the spirit

Spiritual law says whoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life.
Because God's kingdom is a spirit kingdom

Also, look at the verse below:

"For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit... and then have fallen away, to restore them again to repentance..."
Hebrews 6:4–6

this is absolutely true.
It's like saying someone who has tested Christianity and is later converted to Islam. It is not possible to convert the person back to Christianity.
Look at this way, can someone covert you as a Christian to Islam ?
You will not even listen to the person no matter what he has to say.

where your likes pick your teachings from, I don't even know

just listen first.
You might see one or two things to learn

paxonel:
Meaning, God is law abiding.
He keeps to his laws and he does not change over it.
These laws are physical laws :
Thou shall not steal
Thou shall not lie.. etc


He meant spiritual law, not physical laws.
The statement is like saying He who believed and later doubted, is not fit for the kingdom.

Note that physical laws does not justify anyone into the kingdom, only spiritual law does.
Therefore there is no correlation between the physical and the spirit

Spiritual law says whoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life.
Because God's kingdom is a spirit kingdom
this is absolutely true.
It's like saying someone who has tested Christianity and is later converted to Islam. It is not possible to convert the person back to Christianity.
Look at this way, can someone covert you as a Christian to Islam ?
You will not even listen to the person no matter what he has to say.
just listen first.
You might see one or two things to learn

mtchewww!

Yes 💯 percent saved forever

MiddleDimension:
mtchewww!

If you were serious you should have ignored my post.
It is not by force

Dtruthspeaker:
Thank God you said "past sins" which is clearly like the ruler who forgave the servant's past debts. But when the servant sinned got indebted again, we all saw what happened to him. So, was he saved?

You are the one making the mistake of using your wishes to interpret the Bible and therefore you are only seeing things you like to see while ignoring the Truth and real eyeity.

He is saved as long as he doesn't go back to his sins.

Of he goes back but ask for forgiveness again, he'll be saved again