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"I WON 2023!"so Peter Where Is The Alternative National Result? by CharlesCNG(op): 2:21pm On Jul 27
Throughout his interview with Seun Okinbaloye, Peter Obi maintained that he won the 2023 presidential election and remains the rightful choice of Nigerians.

That is a serious claim.

It therefore deserves serious evidence.

In every democratic election, there are only two ways to establish victory. Either the officially declared results are accepted, or an alternative set of verifiable results is produced to show where the declared figures are wrong.

This is where hyperbole Peter runs into another credibility problem.

More than three years after the election, Nigerians are still waiting for a polling-unit-by-polling-unit alternative national result proving that he scored the constitutional majority required to be declared president.

Which states were wrongly computed?

Which local governments were manipulated?

Which polling units changed the national outcome?

By how many votes?

Those are the questions that remain unanswered.

Repeating "I won" is not the same as demonstrating how the victory was mathematically achieved.

Elections are ultimately decided by verifiable figures, not conviction.

If the official declaration was fundamentally wrong, Nigerians deserve to see a complete alternative computation supported by polling-unit results, state totals and constitutional spread—not merely repeated assertions.

This article is not about denying anyone the right to challenge an election. Every candidate has that right.

It is about the burden of proof.

The more extraordinary the claim, the stronger the evidence required.

After years of hearing "I won," Nigerians are entitled to ask one simple question:

Where is the alternative national result that proves it?

An honest man - and lying peter is anything BUT - who contests an election and loses may disagree with the result, challenge it in court and continue to advocate for reforms.

He does not make claiming victory a permanent political strategy after the legal process has run its course.

Democracy is sustained not only by the ability to contest elections, but also by the willingness to accept their final outcome once every constitutional avenue has been exhausted.
Re: "I WON 2023!"so Peter Where Is The Alternative National Result? by Streetinvestor2: 2:46pm On Jul 27
It is with inec glitch...go and verify
Why else do they have people like you on NL opening topics every minutes on obi
Are you saying u are all doing it because u are all just jobless and for free..lol
Re: "I WON 2023!"so Peter Where Is The Alternative National Result? by SeeWahala: 3:07pm On Jul 27
Streetinvestor2:
It is with inec glitch...go and verify
Why else do they have people like you on NL opening topics every minutes on obi
Are you saying u are all doing it because u are all just jobless and for free..lol
It's N500 per post or N3000 per thread that they struggle for grin
Re: "I WON 2023!"so Peter Where Is The Alternative National Result? by CharlesCNG(op): 3:21pm On Jul 27
Streetinvestor2:
It is with inec glitch...go and verify
Why else do they have people like you on NL opening topics every minutes on obi
Are you saying u are all doing it because u are all just jobless and for free..lol
There goes the standard Obidient escape route again:

First, claim Peter Obi won the 2023 election.

When asked for proof, shout “INEC glitch—go and verify!”

When the figures still do not support the claim, accuse everyone discussing Obi of being paid.

That is not evidence. It is conspiracy replacing argument.

The original issue is Peter Obi’s continued suggestion that he won the 2023 presidential election. If you believe an INEC glitch changed the result, present the precise evidence:

Which polling units were affected?

What were the authentic figures?

How many votes were allegedly removed from Obi?

How many were added to another candidate?

What would the corrected national totals be?

A technical failure in transmitting some results electronically is not automatic proof that Obi won. Election results were still recorded on physical forms, collated through the statutory process and subjected to legal challenges.

Obi went to court. He had lawyers, witnesses and access to election materials. Yet he did not produce evidence sufficient to establish that he scored the highest lawful votes and satisfied the constitutional requirements for victory.

And please stop assuming that anyone criticising Obi must be paid.

That is like a football supporter claiming the referee, spectators and scoreboard operator were bribed simply because his team lost.

People discuss Obi because he remains politically active, grants interviews and repeatedly makes claims that invite scrutiny.

So forget who opened the thread and answer the question:

Where is the verifiable evidence that Peter Obi won the 2023 presidential election?

“INEC glitch” is not a result sheet.

“Go and verify” is not proof.

And accusing critics of being paid is not a substitute for evidence.
Re: "I WON 2023!"so Peter Where Is The Alternative National Result? by CharlesCNG(op): 3:31pm On Jul 27
SeeWahala:
It's N500 per post or N3000 per thread that they struggle for grin
It used to be ₦30,000 per month. Now you have announced a new rate of ₦500 per post and ₦3,000 per thread.

At this rate, imagine how much I must have made today already.

Unfortunately for your conspiracy theory, I am an employer of labour, and none of my staff earns below ₦70,000 monthly.
So the idea that I am struggling for imaginary crumbs to discuss Peter Obi is more flattering to your imagination than it is insulting to me.

But let us ask the real question:

Why are Obidients always more interested in the messenger than the message?

Why not respond to the argument?

Why not disprove the figures?

Why not defend Obi’s statements?

Why not simply ignore the thread if it irritates you?

Instead, every difficult question about Obi produces the same tired allegation: “You are paid.”

That is like a man losing an argument in court and accusing the microphone of collecting a salary.

Whether I am paid, unpaid, employed, self-employed or posting from the moon does not change the substance of the discussion.

If the argument is wrong, refute it.

If the facts are false, correct them.

If the criticism is unfair, expose it.

But when your only response is to invent payment rates, you are quietly admitting that you have no answer to the message.

So forget the imaginary payroll.

Face the argument.
Re: "I WON 2023!"so Peter Where Is The Alternative National Result? by SeeWahala: 3:38pm On Jul 27
CharlesCNG:
It used to be ₦30,000 per month. Now you have announced a new rate of ₦500 per post and ₦3,000 per thread.

At this rate, imagine how much I must have made today already.

Unfortunately for your conspiracy theory, I am an employer of labour, and none of my staff earns below ₦70,000 monthly.
So the idea that I am struggling for imaginary crumbs to discuss Peter Obi is more flattering to your imagination than it is insulting to me.

But let us ask the real question:

Why are Obidients always more interested in the messenger than the message?

Why not respond to the argument?

Why not disprove the figures?

Why not defend Obi’s statements?

Why not simply ignore the thread if it irritates you?

Instead, every difficult question about Obi produces the same tired allegation: “You are paid.”

That is like a man losing an argument in court and accusing the microphone of collecting a salary.

Whether I am paid, unpaid, employed, self-employed or posting from the moon does not change the substance of the discussion.

If the argument is wrong, refute it.

If the facts are false, correct them.

If the criticism is unfair, expose it.

But when your only response is to invent payment rates, you are quietly admitting that you have no answer to the message.

So forget the imaginary payroll.

Face the argument.
You better be going small - small with this your 'mouth making' undecided that's how your colleague DomPerignon was going on about until we discovered he was just a usual Pepsi and sprite seller cry

Besides, na highest N3k per day for thread wey you open . . . wink thread wey no get better engagement na waste for una coven so no pay cool

The only advise id give is still for you to PUSH TRUCK at Iddo or SELL BALE at Aswani market 🤗
Re: "I WON 2023!"so Peter Where Is The Alternative National Result? by Streetinvestor2: 3:51pm On Jul 27
CharlesCNG:
There goes the standard Obidient escape route again:

First, claim Peter Obi won the 2023 election.

When asked for proof, shout “INEC glitch—go and verify!”

When the figures still do not support the claim, accuse everyone discussing Obi of being paid.

That is not evidence. It is conspiracy replacing argument.

The original issue is Peter Obi’s continued suggestion that he won the 2023 presidential election. If you believe an INEC glitch changed the result, present the precise evidence:

Which polling units were affected?

What were the authentic figures?

How many votes were allegedly removed from Obi?

How many were added to another candidate?

What would the corrected national totals be?

A technical failure in transmitting some results electronically is not automatic proof that Obi won. Election results were still recorded on physical forms, collated through the statutory process and subjected to legal challenges.

Obi went to court. He had lawyers, witnesses and access to election materials. Yet he did not produce evidence sufficient to establish that he scored the highest lawful votes and satisfied the constitutional requirements for victory.

And please stop assuming that anyone criticising Obi must be paid.

That is like a football supporter claiming the referee, spectators and scoreboard operator were bribed simply because his team lost.

People discuss Obi because he remains politically active, grants interviews and repeatedly makes claims that invite scrutiny.

So forget who opened the thread and answer the question:

Where is the verifiable evidence that Peter Obi won the 2023 presidential election?

“INEC glitch” is not a result sheet.

“Go and verify” is not proof.

And accusing critics of being paid is not a substitute for evidence.
The problem is you think by writing long post it makes u smart
The body that was responsible for the glitch was equally on records as not to release evidence and materials sort by obi lawyers
We remember how they refused to release the machines that they whr calibrating it for Anambra election just to erase evidence.
When other documents whr sort for they delayed on funny excuses not to give the lawyers enough time to file and prepare thr case.Then obi lawyers had no choice than to present thr case on technical grounds.
You are not smart around people like me
.
Why did glitch happen to only presidential election is the question.

After grabbing the power for the past 3 yrs what did he achieve besides 79% of hunger and poor Nigerians
It is every day we now read of new corrupt findings in his government.
Even two policies he stole the ideas. He mismanaged it and made mess of it as he loots funds recovered from them
If not for the stipend they pay u.Are you that jobless u create up 5 tops on obi on NL starting early in the morning
Re: "I WON 2023!"so Peter Where Is The Alternative National Result? by Streetinvestor2: 3:55pm On Jul 27
SeeWahala:
You better be going small - small with this your 'mouth making' undecided that's how your colleague DomPerignon was going on about until we discovered he was just a usual Pepsi and sprite seller cry

Besides, na highest N3k per day for thread wey you open . . . wink thread wey no get better engagement na waste for una coven so no pay cool

The only advise id give is still for you to PUSH TRUCK at Iddo or SELL BALE at Aswani market 🤗
Just like one of them said, he has never spent upto 100k a month since 2022 and he is a big boy and not under poverty level .Then lives in one village in his region
Re: "I WON 2023!"so Peter Where Is The Alternative National Result? by SeeWahala: 3:59pm On Jul 27
Streetinvestor2:
Just like one of them said, he has never spent upto 100k a month since 2022 and he is a big boy and not under poverty level .Then lives in one village in his region
GBAM! angry

They don't know the exact moment they say all these things about themselves unknowingly just because we dey PRESSURE them grin

Now DomPerignon is scared of me and has joined the rest of their WhatsApp group members to be putting me on block 🚫

With his entire monikers oo 😒
Re: "I WON 2023!"so Peter Where Is The Alternative National Result? by Flangelo12: 4:13pm On Jul 27
SeeWahala:
GBAM! angry

They don't know the exact moment they say all these things about themselves unknowingly just because we dey PRESSURE them grin

Now DomPerignon is scared of me and has joined the rest of their WhatsApp group members to be putting me on block 🚫

With his entire monikers oo 😒
Provide evidence of Obi's victory.

Something the muntula couldn't do.
Re: "I WON 2023!"so Peter Where Is The Alternative National Result? by CharlesCNG(op): 4:42pm On Jul 27
Streetinvestor2:
The problem is you think by writing long post it makes u smart
The body that was responsible for the glitch was equally on records as not to release evidence and materials sort by obi lawyers
We remember how they refused to release the machines that they whr calibrating it for Anambra election just to erase evidence.
When other documents whr sort for they delayed on funny excuses not to give the lawyers enough time to file and prepare thr case.Then obi lawyers had no choice than to present thr case on technical grounds.
You are not smart around people like me
.
Why did glitch happen to only presidential election is the question.

After grabbing the power for the past 3 yrs what did he achieve besides 79% of hunger and poor Nigerians
It is every day we now read of new corrupt findings in his government.
Even two policies he stole the ideas. He mismanaged it and made mess of it as he loots funds recovered from them
If not for the stipend they pay u.Are you that jobless u create up 5 tops on obi on NL starting early in the morning
My friend, before lecturing me about a “glitch,” understand that I have worked as an IT consultant for decades. I know that a system malfunction is possible. But a glitch is not magical evidence that your preferred candidate won.

Here is how the process worked:

Votes were counted openly at each polling unit. The figures were manually entered on Form EC8A, signed by officials and party agents, and copies were issued to the agents. The presiding officer then used the BVAS to photograph and upload that same EC8A to IReV. INEC itself describes BVAS as storing and transmitting an image of the polling-unit result sheet.

Therefore, IReV did not count the votes. It displayed photographic copies of results already counted and recorded physically.

Yes, the delayed presidential uploads were unacceptable. INEC admitted that the presidential portal experienced a configuration problem while the National Assembly uploads proceeded, and that failure understandably created suspicion.

It is like a bank app delaying your transaction alert: the delay deserves investigation, but it does not prove that the balance belongs to somebody else.

If Obi’s agents possessed their EC8A copies, where is the nationwide alternative collation showing:

* the polling units where figures changed;
* the authentic signed results;
* the number of votes removed from Obi;
* the number added to Tinubu;
* and the corrected national total?

Obi challenged the election through the tribunal, Court of Appeal and Supreme Court. The courts did not hold that he won but was prevented from proving it merely because INEC withheld machines. The legal challenges arising from the transmission failure were ultimately dismissed.

You also claim BVAS machines were withheld to “erase evidence.” Calibrating a BVAS for a later election does not erase the paper EC8A copies already held by parties, polling agents and INEC. If you allege deliberate deletion, present the forensic report establishing it.

INEC deserved serious criticism for the failed real-time upload. But the burden remains on whoever says Obi won to reconstruct the result from the polling-unit records.

Now finally ,Focus on your own life—and, more importantly, focus on the message.

Whether I am paid, unpaid, self-employed or posting for personal interest has absolutely nothing to do with whether the facts and arguments in my posts are correct.

Does an argument suddenly become false because the writer was paid?

Does Peter Obi’s missing blueprint appear because you have invented a salary for his critic?

Does the INEC glitch become proof of victory because you have calculated imaginary posting fees?

No.

This obsession with my supposed payment is merely an escape route from the substance of the discussion.

So bring the EC8As, identify the altered figures and calculate the supposed victory.

A glitch explains a technical failure. It does not manufacture millions of missing votes.
Re: "I WON 2023!"so Peter Where Is The Alternative National Result? by CharlesCNG(op): 4:52pm On Jul 27
SeeWahala:
You better be going small - small with this your 'mouth making' undecided that's how your colleague DomPerignon was going on about until we discovered he was just a usual Pepsi and sprite seller cry

Besides, na highest N3k per day for thread wey you open . . . wink thread wey no get better engagement na waste for una coven so no pay cool

The only advise id give is still for you to PUSH TRUCK at Iddo or SELL BALE at Aswani market 🤗
Ah, I just noticed it is you, my good friend. See me see wahala. How are you today?

But seriously, even if I push trucks at Iddo or sell bales at Aswani Market, does that disqualify me from exercising my democratic right to free speech?

In fact, you should commend such a truck pusher for finding time after honest labour to participate in national debate.

Or is political opinion now reserved for people with air-conditioned offices and imported titles?

And this obsession with whether I am paid is becoming funny.

Suppose I am paid ₦3,000 per day. Does that make a true statement false?

Suppose I post for free. Does that automatically make my argument intelligent?

Suppose I sell Pepsi and Sprite. Will Peter Obi’s missing blueprint suddenly appear inside the refrigerator?

You are like a man who cannot answer the town crier, so he begins investigating whether the gong was bought on credit.

What exactly is the problem?

Is it my occupation?

My supposed payment?

The number of threads?

Or the fact that the message keeps making you uncomfortable?

If the thread has no engagement, ignore it. If the facts are wrong, correct them. If the argument is weak, demolish it.

But telling me to push trucks is not a rebuttal. It is merely class prejudice wearing a comedian’s cap.

So, my friend, allow the imaginary truck pusher to speak. Nigeria belongs to him too.

Now leave Iddo, Aswani, Pepsi, Sprite and mysterious covens aside.

Face the message.
Because you obidients like it or not , the message will keep coming.
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