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QuinQ:
All this just to obfuscate the fact that ALL Louisiana Creoles of Color do have African blood, especially YOU!
I want us to clearly settle that point first BEFORE worrying about Liberians and Sierra Leoneans.

Like I said earlier, the one huge difference between you and them is that they embrace their African heritage. They don't foolishly say they're from some mysterious tan people from Palestine, or try to turn King Louis olive and have him living in New Orleans!😅

So I want you to clearly agree to these points:
1) You do have African blood
2) You are NOT from mysterious tan people from France or Palestine or anywhere else.
3) You were manufactured right there in Louisiana through white folks basically raping African women
4) The original 1685 Code Noir was the most evil legal monstrosity ever actually put to paper by man. If you know any other legal document more evil, let's hear it.

Once we agree on these points we can then go ahead to discuss Liberia and Sierra Leone and such!

*See the circled below: it is a roll of dice what they come out looking like today!

Creole People listed as slaves to family members were de facto free but lacked the freedom papers. It's like People living in US without citizenship papers. These Creoles were free but not bonded. This especially happened after 1803 when the Anglos took over and wanted to prevent the growth of the free people of color communities. It wasn't the Code de Nior which created this predicament it was English law. The Code de Nior was a strict conversion to Catholicism which granted freedom and the English only cared about money. The English were anti Catholicism early on but later many slave owners converted when the Church got behind White Supremacy.

Secretbloodline:
Pre-colonial Igbo society was famously egalitarian and decentralized, yet historical evidence shows that various forms of servitude, pawnship, and holding human beings as dependents or collateral (ohu or osu) did exist within the social structure before European colonization.

Go read the book so you get a sense of the nuances of precolonial Igbo society. Any practice that was normal you would find it in that book.
The Osu system had nothing to do with slavery. Ohu on the other hand means slave-like servant (not chattel) and I can assure you even that didn't exist in my part of Igbo land - BUT I have READ about it existing in distant parts of Igbo land and it must be very rare indeed.

DiarisGodoo:
Go read the book so you get a sense of the nuances of precolonial Igbo society. Any practice that was normal you would find it in that book.
The Osu system had nothing to do with slavery. Ohu on the other hand means slave-like servant (not chattel) and I can assure you even that didn't exist in my part of Igbo land - BUT I have READ about it existing in distant parts of Igbo land and it must be very rare indeed.

The problem with your theory or point of view which you claim is based upon this book is that it disputes the evidence. The fact of the matter that millions of your people were sold to Europeans and many live here in Diaspora now. DNA records and genealogical records traces many of those people back to Igbo land. So if Igbos didn't enslave these people's ancestors did who did? Did Yorubas raid Igbo lands and enslave them and sold so many to Europeans? Did the Fulanis enslave those Igbos and sell them? Who sold these people? Because we need to know how did so many of your Igbo people became slaves in Diaspora? We know but we need to hear your theory so that this matter of accountability can be cleared up.

Secretbloodline:
The problem with your theory or point of view which you claim is based upon this book is that it disputes the evidence. The fact of the matter that millions of your people were sold to Europeans and many live here in Diaspora now. DNA records and genealogical records traces many of those people back to Igbo land. So if Igbos didn't enslave these people's ancestors did who did? Did Yorubas raid Igbo lands and enslave them and sold so many to Europeans? Did the Fulanis enslave those Igbos and sell them? Who sold these people? Because we need to know how did so many of your Igbo people became slaves in Diaspora? We know but we need to hear your theory so that this matter of accountability can be cleared up.

You sound so smart. So If peolple came to New Orleans from Europe with guns insisting that Creoles "sell" them some Creoles whom they then went on to enslave, so it means Creoles were practicing slavery before they came? You are one smart Creole of color.
Please stop arguing what you know nothing about. I LIVED this. Instead of listening to learn what it was like you're arguing, conflating things like osu and ohu.

DiarisGodoo:
You sound so smart. So If peolple came to New Orleans from Europe with guns insisting that Creoles "sell" them some Creoles whom they then went on to enslave, so it means Creoles were practicing slavery before they came? You are one smart Creole of color.
Please stop arguing what you know nothing about. I LIVED this. Instead of listening to learn what it was like you're arguing, conflating things like osu and ohu.

Oh. My forefathers came from France and its documented through genetics and genealogical records. King Louis is tan skinned not white. My forefathers bought slaves from the Anglos and set them free by raising them as Catholics. You see my forefathers had issues of growing their French settlement because no French people wanted to leave the gorgeous France to live in the swampy colony of New Orleans. It was a huge problem, some rich men even allowed the jails to opened and criminals set free to grow the colony but it turned out terrible. So when King Louis the 14th was crowned he rescinded the prisoner idea, later he wrote the Code de Nior which allowed slaves to go free so as long as they became Catholics. My family didn't want a colony of pagans. Freedom of religion, but that's just being honest.


So your women became the solution to our population problems., When a woman slave got pregnant she was immediately set free so that child would be born free. Our laws was different from the English law, if the father is free then the child is free. The English law was, if the mother is a slave then the child is a slave. King Louis insisted that no slave owner could impregnate a slave woman then keep her and her baby a slave. That's what the original Code de Nior said, which is why throughout the French colonial system even in Africa free people of color communities were created that didn't exist in the English colonies.

The English had to fight a bloody Civil War to free slaves. Prince Hall and other Mulatto men were the exception because the British wanted them Mulattos to become a micro manager system for their large slave population. So Prince Hall Freemasonry is nothing but gate keepers or prison guards or trustees to watch over enslaved groups. And you joined Prince Hall Freemasonry. Anyone that joins that's what your task is on behalf of the British Crown to micro manage slave and colonized groups and report back to your masters. The English were also enemies to the French so your other mission is to keep the secret of who the French really were to prevent them from rebuilding de France after the French Revolution destroyed the Nobility's power. That's why you insist Creole men are Black like you and the original French were white like your British colonial masters. It's a well designed strategy and you play your part well by pretending to be illiterate to true history. But you shall pay for your sins though like your ancestors paid for their sins of trading their people to the British and ended up being colonized.


So what's your next story? You're going to tell me Colonialism didn't happen as well?

Secretbloodline:
Oh. My forefathers came from France and its documented through genetics and genealogical records. King Louis is tan skinned not white. My forefathers bought slaves from the Anglos and set them free by raising them as Catholics. You see my forefathers had issues of growing their French settlement because no French people wanted to leave the gorgeous France to live in the swampy colony of New Orleans. It was a huge problem, some rich men even allowed the jails to opened and criminals set free to grow the colony but it turned out terrible. So when King Louis the 14th was crowned he rescinded the prisoner idea, later he wrote the Code de Nior which allowed slaves to go free so as long as they became Catholics. My family didn't want a colony of pagans. Freedom of religion, but that's just being honest.


So your women became the solution to our population problems., When a woman slave got pregnant she was immediately set free so that child would be born free. Our laws was different from the English law, if the father is free then the child is free. The English law was, if the mother is a slave then the child is a slave. King Louis insisted that no slave owner could impregnate a slave woman then keep her and her baby a slave. That's what the original Code de Nior said, which is why throughout the French colonial system even in Africa free people of color communities were created that didn't exist in the English colonies.

The English had to fight a bloody Civil War to free slaves. Prince Hall and other Mulatto men were the exception because the British wanted them Mulattos to become a micro manager system for their large slave population. So Prince Hall Freemasonry is nothing but gate keepers or prison guards or trustees to watch over enslaved groups. And you joined Prince Hall Freemasonry. Anyone that joins that's what your task is on behalf of the British Crown to micro manage slave and colonized groups and report back to your masters. The English were also enemies to the French so your other mission is to keep the secret of who the French really were to prevent them from rebuilding de France after the French Revolution destroyed the Nobility's power. That's why you insist Creole men are Black like you and the original French were white like your British colonial masters. It's a well designed strategy and you play your part well by pretending to be illiterate to true history. But you shall pay for your sins though like your ancestors paid for their sins of trading their people to the British and ended up being colonized.


So what's your next story? You're going to tell me Colonialism didn't happen as well?

Is this some sort of a joke?
I told you I'm intimately familiar with these things. Unless you're about 130 years old, you are of mixed racial ancestry. Those are the only people refered to as Creoles today. Descendants of colonists that you are trying to claim stopped being called Creoles in the late 1800s to early 1900s.
So, either you are Creole or you are pure unmixed blood as you claim. You can't be both.

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Secretbloodline:
Oh. My forefathers came from France and its documented through genetics and genealogical records. King Louis is tan skinned not white. My forefathers bought slaves from the Anglos and set them free by raising them as Catholics. You see my forefathers had issues of growing their French settlement because no French people wanted to leave the gorgeous France to live in the swampy colony of New Orleans. It was a huge problem, some rich men even allowed the jails to opened and criminals set free to grow the colony but it turned out terrible. So when King Louis the 14th was crowned he rescinded the prisoner idea, later he wrote the Code de Nior which allowed slaves to go free so as long as they became Catholics. My family didn't want a colony of pagans. Freedom of religion, but that's just being honest.


So your women became the solution to our population problems., When a woman slave got pregnant she was immediately set free so that child would be born free. Our laws was different from the English law, if the father is free then the child is free. The English law was, if the mother is a slave then the child is a slave. King Louis insisted that no slave owner could impregnate a slave woman then keep her and her baby a slave. That's what the original Code de Nior said, which is why throughout the French colonial system even in Africa free people of color communities were created that didn't exist in the English colonies.

The English had to fight a bloody Civil War to free slaves. Prince Hall and other Mulatto men were the exception because the British wanted them Mulattos to become a micro manager system for their large slave population. So Prince Hall Freemasonry is nothing but gate keepers or prison guards or trustees to watch over enslaved groups. And you joined Prince Hall Freemasonry. Anyone that joins that's what your task is on behalf of the British Crown to micro manage slave and colonized groups and report back to your masters. The English were also enemies to the French so your other mission is to keep the secret of who the French really were to prevent them from rebuilding de France after the French Revolution destroyed the Nobility's power. That's why you insist Creole men are Black like you and the original French were white like your British colonial masters. It's a well designed strategy and you play your part well by pretending to be illiterate to true history. But you shall pay for your sins though like your ancestors paid for their sins of trading their people to the British and ended up being colonized.


So what's your next story? You're going to tell me Colonialism didn't happen as well?

You are not being truthful about so many things.
Conversion to Catholicism did not free from slavery, amomg other things.
As for precolonial Igbos, go read the book then come back and report.

DiarisGodoo:
Is this some sort of a joke?
I told you I'm intimately familiar with these things. Unless you're about 130 years old, you are of mixed racial ancestry. Those are the only people refered to as Creoles today. Descendants of colonists that you are trying to claim stopped being called Creoles in the late 1800s to early 1900s.
So, either you are Creole or you are pure unmixed blood as you claim. You can't be both.

Every human being is mixed blood. Even Arabs test genetically with African and European admixture. But that goes without saying because you're real aim is to use that tiny bit admixture to make me Black whilst treating me like a nobody at the same time. You're looking for a slave. Prince Hall Freemasonry is dedicated to the exploitation of people of color by telling people who they are and are not.


You don't get to decide a person's identity. But Prince Hall runs all sorts of identity movements and every crazy identity movement can be traced back to their satanic lodges. The ones who say that they are Moors are Prince Hall Freemasons, Black Israelites are Prince Hall Freemasons, they say they're the original Arabs and they are Prince Hall Freemasons, Black Native American are Prince Hall Freemasons. All those devils are Prince Hall Freemasons. Prince Hall mission was to disrupt any authentic ancestry of enslaved, colonized or free people of color and direct them to phony movements that they have assigned leaders put over.

DiarisGodoo:
You are not being truthful about so many things.
Conversion to Catholicism did not free from slavery, amomg other things.
As for precolonial Igbos, go read the book then come back and report.

Foolish. Your culture enslaved people and ours set them free. The issue for us is our ancestors loss power in France. In 1791 we loss power. That changed everything including the way history is told.

Your spiritual envy is not going to help you. The Anglos created a system of envy and you joined that envious system. The presence of free people of color everywhere the French colonized is a testament to the truth I have spoken with you. It can't be denied. Your assessment about the Code de Nior is wrong. My assessment about slavery in Africa is conclusively proven by the presence of your people scattered across the world. No one ever convinced me that white men came to Africa and defeated the mighty men of Africa and took them as slaves. My first thought there was some sort of betrayal and the 🧾 of that betrayal is conclusive.

Secretbloodline:
Every human being is mixed blood. Even Arabs test genetically with African and European admixture. But that goes without saying because you're real aim is to use that tiny bit admixture to make me Black whilst treating me like a nobody at the same time. You're looking for a slave. Prince Hall Freemasonry is dedicated to the exploitation of people of color by telling people who they are and are not.


You don't get to decide a person's identity. But Prince Hall runs all sorts of identity movements and every crazy identity movement can be traced back to their satanic lodges. The ones who say that they are Moors are Prince Hall Freemasons, Black Israelites are Prince Hall Freemasons, they say they're the original Arabs and they are Prince Hall Freemasons, Black Native American are Prince Hall Freemasons. All those devils are Prince Hall Freemasons. Prince Hall mission was to disrupt any authentic ancestry of enslaved, colonized or free people of color and direct them to phony movements that they have assigned leaders put over.

So what was one drop rule all about? That prevented you from voting , holding public office, or marrying a white person. Isn't that the French law?
Talk more later.

DiarisGodoo:
So what was one drop rule all about? That prevented you from voting , holding public office, or marrying a white person. Isn't that the French law?
Talk more later.

The one drop rule was making European people of color into Black. Now there is nothing wrong with being an African but Black is used as a spiritual language term. It has a different meaning than just the ancestry label placed on Black. In the Middle East white is used as a symbol of purity by sayings that Prophet Muhammad had a white glowing face, this isn't a racial term but a spiritual term that means the Prophet Muhammad was a spiritually, righteous and moral man. Black was considered spiritually, morally dirty just as a traveler would be after being in the desert for a few days. The Arab had no concept of race they judged only by father's bloodline.

So what Malcolm X pointed out in the Webster's dictionary that white carried connotations of pure, good, clean and moral, whilst black meant impure, evil, dirty and immoral. So the Anglo-Saxons or British people created the binary system where pale skin was considered white and darker skin considered black. Now let that sink in.

Since Anglo-Saxons were a Protestant people they rejected the Catholic Church or protested the ridding of pagan traditions that conflicted with monotheistic doctrine they despised Catholics. My forefathers were the Catholics and they were darker skin or tan skinned people. Owning slaves conflicted with Christian doctrine so some people used the Curse of Ham to justify their owning slaves. Ham was supposed to have been cursed Black but its taken out of Middle Eastern concept of spiritual language and recreated into skin color. The Basques of Spain also helped craft these made up color race terms, or caste by denoting the lack of good spiritual qualities based solely upon skin color. Black became brutes and Browns became Savages. Anglo-Saxons began using black to define people of darker skin as spiritually impure and people with pale skin as white or spiritually pure. So instead of making the inner transformation by following the true Catholic doctrine Anglo-Saxons pivoted the meaning of good and evil around skin color. Everyone pale skin became suddenly good/white and everyone darker became black/evil.


This is where the One Drop Rule comes in right after the Civil War and the emancipation of African Americans. Now Creoles have been free people the entire time for centuries, even freeing Africans and integrating them into Catholicism and the community. Suddenly Anglos became aware that Creoles were the true Christians because our ancestors freed slaves out of religious piety just like benevolent Arabs who freed Africans by Islam. Anglos and so called Abollishonists only fought and ended slavery purely out of economic reasons not due to religious piety. So casting Creoles into the category of Black was a way of denying us our honor of being spiritually moral and righteous.

Robbing Creoles of our French heritage and turning us into pagan Africans that benevolent white people freed. It's called destiny swapping. King Louis becomes white or pale, the Franks become white or pale Germans, the Templars become white or pale. George Washington the founder of the United States becomes white or pale although he was tan skinned and had French ancestry. An abundance of history is rewritten and fake artwork created to complete the destiny swap.

Stop describing yourselves as Black because its being used against you. That's what Mr. Gani Adams the commander pointed out and other Yoruba leaders who figured out when they publicly rejected the Black Lives Matter. Black and White is a binary trick with black on the bottom as the burden bearer and scape goat for the white on top. Every time we use the classifications of race we empower those who benefit at the top. There is no such thing as race.

Secretbloodline:
The one drop rule was making European people of color into Black. Now there is nothing wrong with being an African but Black is used as a spiritual language term. It has a different meaning than just the ancestry label placed on Black. In the Middle East white is used as a symbol of purity by sayings that Prophet Muhammad had a white glowing face, this isn't a racial term but a spiritual term that means the Prophet Muhammad was a spiritually, righteous and moral man. Black was considered spiritually, morally dirty just as a traveler would be after being in the desert for a few days. The Arab had no concept of race they judged only by father's bloodline.

So what Malcolm X pointed out in the Webster's dictionary that white carried connotations of pure, good, clean and moral, whilst black meant impure, evil, dirty and immoral. So the Anglo-Saxons or British people created the binary system where pale skin was considered white and darker skin considered black. Now let that sink in.

Since Anglo-Saxons were a Protestant people they rejected the Catholic Church or protested the ridding of pagan traditions that conflicted with monotheistic doctrine they despised Catholics. My forefathers were the Catholics and they were darker skin or tan skinned people. Owning slaves conflicted with Christian doctrine so some people used the Curse of Ham to justify their owning slaves. Ham was supposed to have been cursed Black but its taken out of Middle Eastern concept of spiritual language and recreated into skin color. The Basques of Spain also helped craft these made up color race terms, or caste by denoting the lack of good spiritual qualities based solely upon skin color. Black became brutes and Browns became Savages. Anglo-Saxons began using black to define people of darker skin as spiritually impure and people with pale skin as white or spiritually pure. So instead of making the inner transformation by following the true Catholic doctrine Anglo-Saxons pivoted the meaning of good and evil around skin color. Everyone pale skin became suddenly good/white and everyone darker became black/evil.


This is where the One Drop Rule comes in right after the Civil War and the emancipation of African Americans. Now Creoles have been free people the entire time for centuries, even freeing Africans and integrating them into Catholicism and the community. Suddenly Anglos became aware that Creoles were the true Christians because our ancestors freed slaves out of religious piety just like benevolent Arabs who freed Africans by Islam. Anglos and so called Abollishonists only fought and ended slavery purely out of economic reasons not due to religious piety. So casting Creoles into the category of Black was a way of denying us our honor of being spiritually moral and righteous.

Robbing Creoles of our French heritage and turning us into pagan Africans that benevolent white people freed. It's called destiny swapping. King Louis becomes white or pale, the Franks become white or pale Germans, the Templars become white or pale. George Washington the founder of the United States becomes white or pale although he was tan skinned and had French ancestry. An abundance of history is rewritten and fake artwork created to complete the destiny swap.

Stop describing yourselves as Black because its being used against you. That's what Mr. Gani Adams the commander pointed out and other Yoruba leaders who figured out when they publicly rejected the Black Lives Matter. Black and White is a binary trick with black on the bottom as the burden bearer and scape goat for the white on top. Every time we use the classifications of race we empower those who benefit at the top. There is no such thing as race.

But from what I have been reading you have been denying having African blood and OP has been arguing with you about it. Has that not been your main quarrel?

Secretbloodline:
Creole People listed as slaves to family members were de facto free but lacked the freedom papers. It's like People living in US without citizenship papers. These Creoles were free but not bonded. This especially happened after 1803 when the Anglos took over and wanted to prevent the growth of the free people of color communities. It wasn't the Code de Nior which created this predicament it was English law. The Code de Nior was a strict conversion to Catholicism which granted freedom and the English only cared about money. The English were anti Catholicism early on but later many slave owners converted when the Church got behind White Supremacy.

Once again, I want you to clearly agree with my points before we go further. Here they are again:
1) You do have African blood
2) You are NOT from mysterious tan people from France or Palestine or anywhere else.
3) You were manufactured right there in Louisiana through white folks basically raping African women
4) The original 1685 Code Noir was the most evil legal monstrosity ever actually put to paper by a monarch. If you know any other legal document more evil, let's hear it.

After that we'll then discuss Creole freedom. But bear in mind, this below mirrors the ancestry of just about all Louisiana Creoles!

sercretbloodline if she was already free why did they pay so much money to buy her freedom? And how can you say a code that forced religion on people was good?

DiarisGodoo:
sercretbloodline if she was already free why did they pay so much money to buy her freedom? And how can you say a code that forced religion on people was good?

Because she was bought from another master who probably saw her as just a slave. Slaves sometimes had Sundays off where they went to church, she probably meet a man there who was free and he buy her freedom. Or she could be the relative of another that was free and they paid for her slave price but couldn't afford to pay for the bond which was 3 times more than the cost. Some Creole people were never slaves and some were people that Creoles bought out of freedom and they became Creoles. Creole only means a French or Spanish son born in the colony. Creoles does not mean mixed that's just a connotation.


. Just like Nigeria has over 300 different ethnic groups so did France have lots of people of different backgrounds. Yall have solidly bought into the white washing of European history. Europe was a Trans continent with lots of different kinds of people, Moors, Franks, Arabs, Accadians, Basques, Iberian, Goths, Romans, North Africans, Saxons, Norman's, etc. People of different skin tones, phenotypes, ethnicities and faiths. France was not the isolated place of West Africa before the 15th century. You are seeing Europe through the narrow lens of Nigeria being 99 percent African. This is little man thinking.

DiarisGodoo:
sercretbloodline if she was already free why did they pay so much money to buy her freedom? And how can you say a code that forced religion on people was good?

Exactly. Our guy is totally brainwashed, to the extent he sees black as white! Suppose the English monarch had mandated that all in their colonies must convert to Anglican?? People would been forced to leave their beloved churches including Roman Catholics! A code that says you can't marry who you love, etc. An English monarch would not have enacted such. The worst he did was taxation, he didn't go meddling in people's private lives and faith!

Secretbloodline:
Creole People listed as slaves to family members were de facto free but lacked the freedom papers.

This is a lie. Read this below again carefully. Her own parternal grandfather had to be paid all that money to buy her freedom!

CanadaOrBust:
Non of those has to do with the soul. You can't compare any of those to trying to alter the very DNA of man

Removing harmful and disease-causing DNA is not altering the soul

Secretbloodline:
The one drop rule was making European people of color into Black. Now there is nothing wrong with being an African but Black is used as a spiritual language term. It has a different meaning than just the ancestry label placed on Black. In the Middle East white is used as a symbol of purity by sayings that Prophet Muhammad had a white glowing face, this isn't a racial term but a spiritual term that means the Prophet Muhammad was a spiritually, righteous and moral man. Black was considered spiritually, morally dirty just as a traveler would be after being in the desert for a few days. The Arab had no concept of race they judged only by father's bloodline.

So what Malcolm X pointed out in the Webster's dictionary that white carried connotations of pure, good, clean and moral, whilst black meant impure, evil, dirty and immoral. So the Anglo-Saxons or British people created the binary system where pale skin was considered white and darker skin considered black. Now let that sink in.

Since Anglo-Saxons were a Protestant people they rejected the Catholic Church or protested the ridding of pagan traditions that conflicted with monotheistic doctrine they despised Catholics. My forefathers were the Catholics and they were darker skin or tan skinned people. Owning slaves conflicted with Christian doctrine so some people used the Curse of Ham to justify their owning slaves. Ham was supposed to have been cursed Black but its taken out of Middle Eastern concept of spiritual language and recreated into skin color. The Basques of Spain also helped craft these made up color race terms, or caste by denoting the lack of good spiritual qualities based solely upon skin color. Black became brutes and Browns became Savages. Anglo-Saxons began using black to define people of darker skin as spiritually impure and people with pale skin as white or spiritually pure. So instead of making the inner transformation by following the true Catholic doctrine Anglo-Saxons pivoted the meaning of good and evil around skin color. Everyone pale skin became suddenly good/white and everyone darker became black/evil.


This is where the One Drop Rule comes in right after the Civil War and the emancipation of African Americans. Now Creoles have been free people the entire time for centuries, even freeing Africans and integrating them into Catholicism and the community. Suddenly Anglos became aware that Creoles were the true Christians because our ancestors freed slaves out of religious piety just like benevolent Arabs who freed Africans by Islam. Anglos and so called Abollishonists only fought and ended slavery purely out of economic reasons not due to religious piety. So casting Creoles into the category of Black was a way of denying us our honor of being spiritually moral and righteous.

Robbing Creoles of our French heritage and turning us into pagan Africans that benevolent white people freed. It's called destiny swapping. King Louis becomes white or pale, the Franks become white or pale Germans, the Templars become white or pale. George Washington the founder of the United States becomes white or pale although he was tan skinned and had French ancestry. An abundance of history is rewritten and fake artwork created to complete the destiny swap.

Stop describing yourselves as Black because its being used against you. That's what Mr. Gani Adams the commander pointed out and other Yoruba leaders who figured out when they publicly rejected the Black Lives Matter. Black and White is a binary trick with black on the bottom as the burden bearer and scape goat for the white on top. Every time we use the classifications of race we empower those who benefit at the top. There is no such thing as race.

Granpa, let me spell it out for you so you don't stay confused, so you face REALITY and stop living in La La Land
1) You ARE an African-American. You are also a European-American but that part of you is not recognized in your country, USA.
It would be recognized if you were in, say, South Africa, but you're not!
2) All those dead people you keep hanging unto, De Frank, De France, De Clarke, De Gaul, St Louis, NONE of them would have accepted you if they were alive, just as American Whites will never accept you.
3) You are Secretbloodline, a mixed-race Creole from New Orleans. You have almost nothing to do with Europe or Europeans.
4) You are NOT from any tan people anywhere. Your mix-race is from a series of mixed-race liaisons all through your ancestral line.
5) Your designation as African-American is NOT from Blacks but from Whites, as are all injustices meted to you. So direct your anger towards Whites NOT Blacks.
6) You'd be recorded in history as an African-American, as a Black man, no matter what you do.
7) Black is very powerful and contains all the colors including white. Black is a very powerful and noble color - but "black people" are NOT black, just as whites are not white.
8} White people, including the French, perpetrated the most odious evils in human history and you really don't want any part of them
9) You are accepted by African-Americans as one of their own. No other large group will accept you like that - even Moroccans! You really have no where else to go.
10) in view of all the above you'll do well to adopt this advice below as it best serves you and your descendants.
All this is about facing reality instead of wishful thinking. About doing what's best for you and your descendants!

QuinQQ:
Granpa, let me spell it out for you so you don't stay confused, so you face REALITY and stop living in La La Land
1) You ARE an African-American. You are also a European-American but that part of you is not recognized in your country, USA.
It would be recognized if you were in, say, South Africa, but you're not!
2) All those dead people you keep hanging unto, De Frank, De France, De Clarke, De Gaul, St Louis, NONE of them would have accepted you if they were alive, just as American Whites will never accept you.
3) You are Secretbloodline, a mixed-race Creole from New Orleans. You have almost nothing to do with Europe or Europeans.
4) You are NOT from any tan people anywhere. Your mix-race is from a series of mixed-race liaisons all through your ancestral line.
5) Your designation as African-American is NOT from Blacks but from Whites, as are all injustices meted to you. So direct your anger towards Whites NOT Blacks.
6) You'd be recorded in history as an African-American, as a Black man, no matter what you do.
7) Black is very powerful and contains all the colors including white. Black is a very powerful and noble color - but "black people" are NOT black, just as whites are not white.
8} White people, including the French, perpetrated the most odious evils in human history and you really don't want any part of them
9) You are accepted by African-Americans as one of their own. No other large group will accept you like that - even Moroccans! You really have no where else to go.
10) in view of all the above you'll do well to adopt this advice below as it best serves you and your descendants.
All this is about facing reality instead of wishful thinking. About doing what's best for you and your descendants!

Still trying to catch slaves and sell them out to British Freemasonry. Igbo Prince Hall Freemasonry.

POLL! POLL!! POLL!!!

Folks please don't be very angry, we just instituted a POLL!
PLEASE GO AND VOTE!
The Poll Question is:
If a man refuses DNA test because he loves the child too much does that make him a simp?

Also comment here on the thread if possible, as to your reasons why or why not!

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Also please help me welcome our resident Louisiana Creole who has never been anywhere near Africa and therefore thought Africans lived on trees. He has now repented and has accepted he has African blood - after reading what I wrote him below:

From QuinQQ to Secretbloodline:

Granpa, let me spell it out for you so you don't stay confused, so you face REALITY and stop living in La La Land
1) You ARE an African-American. You are also a European-American but that part of you is not recognized in your country, USA.
It would be recognized if you were in, say, South Africa, but you're not!
2) All those dead people you keep hanging unto, De Frank, De France, De Clarke, De Gaul, St Louis, NONE of them would have accepted you if they were alive, just as American Whites will never accept you.
3) You are Secretbloodline, a mixed-race Creole from New Orleans. You have almost nothing to do with Europe or Europeans.
4) You are NOT from any tan people anywhere. Your mixed-race is from a series of mixed-race liaisons all through your ancestral line.
5) Your designation as African-American is NOT from Blacks but from Whites, as are all injustices meted to you. So direct your anger towards Whites NOT Blacks.
6) You'd be recorded in history as an African-American, as a Black man, no matter what you do.
7) Black is very powerful and contains all the colors including white. Black is a very powerful and noble color - but "black people" are NOT black, just as whites are not white.
8} White people, including the French, perpetrated the most odious evils in human history and you really don't want any part of them
9) You are accepted by African-Americans as one of their own. No other large group will accept you like that - even Moroccans! You really have no where else to go.
10) in view of all the above you'll do well to adopt this advice below as it best serves you and your descendants.
All this is about facing reality instead of wishful thinking. About doing what's best for you and your descendants!

Slave catchers.

QuinQQ:
Removing harmful and disease-causing DNA is not altering the soul

You are tampering with the natural order of things. There is a reason they are that way. It is like if you kill off all flies thinking you're doing a good thing, the ecosystem will no longer balance and something bad will happen

Secretbloodline:
Slave catchers.

Not only blacks, whites too.
The word slave comes from the ethnic name Slav because large numbers of Central and Eastern European Slavs were captured, enslaved, and sold during the early Middle Ages

That doesn't make him a simp. He's a real man and a great father

QuinQQ:
POLL! POLL!! POLL!!!

Folks please don't be very angry, we just instituted a POLL!
PLEASE GO AND VOTE!
The Poll Question is:
If a man refuses DNA test because he loves the child too much does that make him a simp?

Also comment here on the thread if possible, as to your reasons why or why not!



Also please help me welcome our resident Louisiana Creole who has never been anywhere near Africa and therefore thought Africans lived on trees. He has now repented and has accepted he has African blood - after reading what I wrote him below:

That's a lie....I can't live a lie! If the child isn't mine biologically that child isn't yours biologically ..if you want to adopt ..adopt and make it clear

QuinQQ:
Simple resson: if you've had a child since infancy, he is your child and you're his father and you're obligated to take care of that child till age of maturity. That's how Nature intended it.
It is NOT sperm that makes you someone's father!
Other people fight for custody of children tooth and nail. You don't have to do any of that. He's your child and you get ALL the benefits of fatherhood. He carries your name, references you as his father, and if he ever becomes something ALL fatherhood glory will go to you!

QuinQQ:
POLL! POLL!! POLL!!!

Folks please don't be very angry, we just instituted a POLL!
PLEASE GO AND VOTE!
The Poll Question is:
If a man refuses DNA test because he loves the child too much does that make him a simp?

Also comment here on the thread if possible, as to your reasons why or why not!



Also please help me welcome our resident Louisiana Creole who has never been anywhere near Africa and therefore thought Africans lived on trees. He has now repented and has accepted he has African blood - after reading what I wrote him below:

He is not a simp. People go for adoption, uses sperm donor and nurture the kids to be a great personality

Joke Silva that we all celebrate today was adopted from a foster home

One of the reasons she kept the family name even after marriage to honor them in agreement with Olu jacobs

QuinQQ:
POLL! POLL!! POLL!!!

Folks please don't be very angry, we just instituted a POLL!
PLEASE GO AND VOTE!
The Poll Question is:
If a man refuses DNA test because he loves the child too much does that make him a simp?

Also comment here on the thread if possible, as to your reasons why or why not!



Also please help me welcome our resident Louisiana Creole who has never been anywhere near Africa and therefore thought Africans lived on trees. He has now repented and has accepted he has African blood - after reading what I wrote him below:

For him to refuse DNA test means he already strongly suspects the child is not his. I will say he is a simp only because he is burying his head in sand instead of being man enough to want to know for sure no matter what.

QuinQQ:
Exactly. Our guy is totally brainwashed, to the extent he sees black as white! Suppose the English monarch had mandated that all in their colonies must convert to Anglican?? People would been forced to leave their beloved churches including Roman Catholics! A code that says you can't marry who you love, etc. An English monarch would not have enacted such. The worst he did was taxation, he didn't go meddling in people's private lives and faith!

Even contemporaries of the King living in France roundly condemned the code as draconian.

Very good advice you gave him here. You hit all the points. Amazing he can't see he has no choice. Whites won't accept him, neither will other mixed groups of the world, while Creoles are too tiny and non-cohesive. The only major group he can comfortably belong to and be fully welcomed as one of their own is African-Americans.

From QuinQQ to Secretbloodline:

Granpa, let me spell it out for you so you don't stay confused, so you face REALITY and stop living in La La Land
1) You ARE an African-American. You are also a European-American but that part of you is not recognized in your country, USA.
It would be recognized if you were in, say, South Africa, but you're not!
2) All those dead people you keep hanging unto, De Frank, De France, De Clarke, De Gaul, St Louis, NONE of them would have accepted you if they were alive, just as American Whites will never accept you.
3) You are Secretbloodline, a mixed-race Creole from New Orleans. You have almost nothing to do with Europe or Europeans.
4) You are NOT from any tan people anywhere. Your mixed-race is from a series of mixed-race liaisons all through your ancestral line.
5) Your designation as African-American is NOT from Blacks but from Whites, as are all injustices meted to you. So direct your anger towards Whites NOT Blacks.
6) You'd be recorded in history as an African-American, as a Black man, no matter what you do.
7) Black is very powerful and contains all the colors including white. Black is a very powerful and noble color - but "black people" are NOT black, just as whites are not white.
8} White people, including the French, perpetrated the most odious evils in human history and you really don't want any part of them
9) You are accepted by African-Americans as one of their own. No other large group will accept you like that - even Moroccans! You really have no where else to go.
10) in view of all the above you'll do well to adopt this advice below as it best serves you and your descendants.
All this is about facing reality instead of wishful thinking. About doing what's best for you and your descendants!