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AntiChristian:
No, you don't get me. They will leave earth for their final destination which can either be Hell for those whom Satan has confused and Paradise for those who embrace belief and reject Satan.

I should ask you this.



Allah originally intended to create man on Earth! Is this difficult for you to understand?

So Allah made a mistake to create man in paradise!?


Let me ask you a question as Muslims do not ask themselves critical questions.

Allah claimed to create man from clay or mud: Was the clay/mud from earth or from paradise?

Secondly,
Is paradise a physical place ?

TenQ:
So Allah made a mistake to create man in paradise!?


Let me ask you a question as Muslims do not ask themselves critical questions.

Allah claimed to create man from clay or mud: Was the clay/mud from earth or from paradise?

Secondly,
Is paradise a physical place ?

Yeah! Jesus made a mistake by being God then man then God again!

AntiChristian:
How is such disobedience rebellion? You JW just love hating on Jehovah's Prophets sha! Anyways, Jehovah didn't send a warner to Adam like he did for the people of Nineveh! Even Jesus and John the baptist were sent to the Israelites.

This is not about hatred but the truth!
Adam is God's Son {Luke 3:38} just like Jesus so he needs no warner in fact he is equal to Jesus in this context that is why Jesus can redeem all obedient descendants of Adam. 1Corinthans 15:45
So Adam sinned against God directly after knowing God face to face that is why his sin becomes unforgivable. Matthew 12:31-32

AntiChristian:
Yeah! Jesus made a mistake by being God then man then God again!

Allah claimed to create man from clay or mud: Was the clay/mud from earth or from paradise?

Secondly,
Is paradise a physical place ?


Are you tongue tied?

AntiChristian:
God taught Nineveh to repent after they've committed evil. He even sent Jonah to them.

What about Adam?

Read my previous comment.

TenQ:
Allah claimed to create man from clay or mud: Was the clay/mud from earth or from paradise?

Secondly,
Is paradise a physical place ?


Are you tongue tied?

What difference does it make whether the clay/mud was from earth, paradise or hell?

Paradise is a physical place in the seventh heaven! Hell is in the lowest level of the earth!

MaxInDHouse:
This is not about hatred but the truth!
Adam is God's Son {Luke 3:38} just like Jesus so he needs no warner in fact he is equal to Jesus in this context that is why Jesus can redeem all obedient descendants of Adam. 1Corinthans 15:45
So Adam sinned against God directly after knowing God face to face that is why his sin becomes unforgivable. Matthew 12:31-32

How did God gave birth to Adam? A man and woman will have to copulate to create offspring.

So all sins are not equal in JW Christianity? Sin against God is unforgivable just like sin against the Holy Spirit is unforgivable?

Then David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the LORD.” Nathan replied, “The LORD has taken away your sin. You are not going to die. 2 Samuel 12:13

David said he sinned against Jehovah and didn't Jehovah forgive him?

TenQ:
So Allah made a mistake to create man in paradise!?

So if i tell you i am going to Abuja and you later saw me in Kogi, would you accuse me of telling lies or grant me the excuse that Kogi is on the way to Abuja?

Please think well before typing.

AntiChristian:
What difference does it make whether the clay/mud was from earth, paradise or hell?

Paradise is a physical place in the seventh heaven! Hell is in the lowest level of the earth!

Paradise is a physical space!?

The black stone is physical because it came from paradise.
The Houri are physical!
Meaning that Angels are also physical!
No wonder that Allah is also Physical because he is NOT a spirit!

I am sure you haven't seen the corruption of your messed up understanding of spiritual things.


What then makes Islam spiritual?

AntiChristian:
How did God gave birth to Adam?

So to you it's only through birth that a being can have a child?
Ọmọ son does not always translate to giving birth naturally o!🙂

MaxInDHouse:
So to you it's only through birth that a being can have a child?
Ọmọ son does not always translate to giving birth naturally o!🙂

How did God give birth to Adam that made Adam God's son?

TenQ:
Paradise is a physical space!?

The black stone is physical because it came from paradise.
The Houri are physical!
Meaning that Angels are also physical!
No wonder that Allah is also Physical because he is NOT a spirit!

I am sure you haven't seen the corruption of your messed up understanding of spiritual things.


What then makes Islam spiritual?

You are confused.
Hell and Paradise exist but we can't see them Just as we can't see Allah, Jinns or the Angels. Maybe that's what you call "Spiritual" in Christianity.

That still doesn't mean Paradise is not physical.
Hell too will be Physical as criminals will be punished in it and they'll feel the burning pains!

Mind you, you can describe your God/Jesus according to your Bible or as you like but the next time you call Allah by what He never authentically call Himself, i will stop the conversation with you.

Spirit can mean Soul or mind: The inner part of a person that feels emotions and thinks.Mood or attitude: A specific feeling, energy, or frame of mind (such as being in "high spirits".Group energy: A shared feeling of loyalty or teamwork, like "team spirit".

Spirit can also mean Ghost: A dead person's soul or an unseen supernatural being.

Spirit can also mean Holy Spirit: A divine power or holy presence in religion.

Allah, though unseen, never called Himself a "Spirit".

AntiChristian:
How did God give birth to Adam that made Adam God's son?

Through creation!

Whatever you sow, you shall reap! (Galatians 6:7-8 )

MaxInDHouse:
Through creation!

Why emphasise Adam, Are animals not created by God too?

Are they sons of God too?

AntiChristian:
Why emphasise Adam, Are animals not created by God too?
Are they sons of God too?

Only Adam was created in the likeness of God! Genesis 1:26

AntiChristian:
So if i tell you i am going to Abuja and you later saw me in Kogi, would you accuse me of telling lies or grant me the excuse that Kogi is on the way to Abuja?

Please think well before typing.

If I get you correctly, Allah is the source of all the ENMITIES between humans and this was the purpose for which he sent Adam down to the earth


Surah Al-Baqarah (2:36)
–"We said, 'Descend, all of you [to the earth], as enemies to one another. And on the earth you will have a dwelling place and provision for a time.'

"Surah Al-A'araf (7:24) – "124]
He said, 'Descend, being to one another enemies. And for you on the earth is a place of settlement and enjoyment for a time.'

"Surah Ta-Ha (20:123)
"He said, 'Descend from it [Paradise] - all of you - being enemies to one another.'"

This was the purpose of Allah isn't it?

MaxInDHouse:
Only Adam was created in the likeness of God! Genesis 1:26

What does being "created in the likeness of God" mean?

AntiChristian:
What does being "created in the likeness of God" mean?

Children of God!🙂

TenQ:
If I get you correctly, Allah is the source of all the ENMITIES between humans and this was the purpose for which he sent Adam down to the earth

Surah Al-Baqarah (2:36)
–"We said, 'Descend, all of you [to the earth], as enemies to one another. And on the earth you will have a dwelling place and provision for a time.'

"Surah Al-A'araf (7:24) – "124]
He said, 'Descend, being to one another enemies. And for you on the earth is a place of settlement and enjoyment for a time.'

"Surah Ta-Ha (20:123)
"He said, 'Descend from it [Paradise] - all of you - being enemies to one another.'"

This was the purpose of Allah isn't it?

Holy Spirit has helped you interpreted that wrongly. Who descended from heaven? Iblis (Satan), Adam and Eve.

I know you love Satan as he's not your enemy!

MaxInDHouse:
Children!🙂

How does Children mean likeness?

AntiChristian:
You are confused.
Hell and Paradise exist but we can't see them Just as we can't see Allah, Jinns or the Angels. Maybe that's what you call "Spiritual" in Christianity.

That still doesn't mean Paradise is not physical.
Hell too will be Physical as criminals will be punished in it and they'll feel the burning pains!

This why Islam is an analogue archaic religion. Everything is seen in the light of the physical.

You do not even know what is meant by SPIRIT in the first place.

There exists two realms of existence
1. Physical Realm and Reality
2. Spiritual Realm and Reality
The Physical realm is a subset of the spiritual realm as a 2D space is a subset of the 3D space.

When your prophet claimed to go to paradise, did he see Adam, Moses, Joseph etc as physical beings or spiritual beings?

AntiChristian:
Mind you, you can describe your God/Jesus according to your Bible or as you like but the next time you call Allah by what He never authentically call Himself, i will stop the conversation with you.

Spirit can mean Soul or mind: The inner part of a person that feels emotions and thinks.Mood or attitude: A specific feeling, energy, or frame of mind (such as being in "high spirits".Group energy: A shared feeling of loyalty or teamwork, like "team spirit".

Spirit can also mean Ghost: A dead person's soul or an unseen supernatural being.

Spirit can also mean Holy Spirit: A divine power or holy presence in religion.

Allah, though unseen, never called Himself a "Spirit".

You are now a specialist in spirit understanding something that Allah and Mohammed couldn't explain

Lecture:
Spirit=Ruh
Soul= Nafs

A Spirit is a non physical Identity and person. Like AIR, you feel him but you dont see him. A spirit realm is a non-physical reality of existence for Spirits.

The Soul is the part of an Identity or Personality that expresses attributes of Will, Emotion and Intellect. Anything that doesn't have NAFS is either an Idol or Plant or Non-living thing.

Of course, Allah never calls himself a spirit nor a soul however he also gave gave attributes to himself like
he has two hands
he has a shin
he has at least two eyes
he seats on his throne with his.....
he has a feet
he has a mouth to blow of his spirit into...

We conclude that either Muslims are ignorant of who truly Allah is or Allah did not tell them who he is.

AntiChristian:
Holy Spirit has helped you interpreted that wrongly. Who descended from heaven? Iblis (Satan), Adam and Eve.

I know you love Satan as he's not your enemy!

Descend, all of you [to the earth], as enemies to one another


Adam become enemy to Eve
Eve become enemy to satan
satan become enemy to Adam
Adam become enemy to Satan
satan become enemy to Eve


And this enemity will propagate through their children and grand children. Every one hating the other.


When Allah sent down satan down to the earth (with Adam and Eve) was it a punishment?

Dont forget that the shooting stars were created so that satan and his children will not be able to come near paradise.

AntiChristian:
How does Children mean likeness?

In the midst of many children the one that looks exactly like you is your.

MaxInDHouse:
In the midst of many children the one that looks exactly like you is your.

So how does Adam look like Jehovah?

Does Jehovah have bodily feature? Can Jehovah eat like Adam? Can Jehovah reproduce like Adam?

TenQ:
Descend, all of you [to the earth], as enemies to one another


Adam become enemy to Eve
Eve become enemy to satan
satan become enemy to Adam
Adam become enemy to Satan
satan become enemy to Eve


And this enemity will propagate through their children and grand children. Every one hating the other.


When Allah sent down satan down to the earth (with Adam and Eve) was it a punishment?

Dont forget that the shooting stars were created so that satan and his children will not be able to come near paradise.

Holy Spirit error again!

Adam and Eve are one mankind!

Satan is another creation from Jinn!

Jinns are hidden from us!

AntiChristian:
So how does Adam look like Jehovah?

All other creatures remain the way they are from the beginning until now while Adam and his descendants keeps on improving in their clothing, food and shelter just like God who was alone before He started making other things.

MaxInDHouse:
All other creatures remain the way they are from the beginning until now while Adam and his descendants keeps on improving in their clothing, food and shelter just like God who was alone before He started making other things.

This is false.

Vrtually all living organisms and biological entities—including animals, plants, fungi, bacteria, and viruses—go through mutation.

A common example is seedless banana we eat today. It used to have seeds before.

And the presence of SARS-CoV-2 Variants is the reason COVID 19 was incurrable back then.

And i don't know why you cut this part away:

Does Jehovah have bodily feature? Can Jehovah eat like Adam? Can Jehovah reproduce like Adam?

EnemyofGod4:
God doesn't exist

You are needed here please.


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kingxsamz:
You mean the same god that planted the tree and gave the serpent access to the garden?
How can he forgive Adam when his plan was to set him up for failure?
That's like asking why bandits can't stop terrorising people.

Please,join this request.


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AntiChristian:
Does Jehovah have bodily feature? Can Jehovah eat like Adam? Can Jehovah reproduce like Adam?

Jehovah is a spirit so that is the only difference but He has feelings and attributes that only humans have among all the creatures on planet earth!